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***Possible problem with the Yomix service, read before use !!! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.msg1467744#msg1467744)
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Yomix withdrew his deposits from 2 forums on which they were advertised (Exploit and another), and literally a few days after that, on another large hacker forum XSS, a user provided evidence that yomix stole 2 BTC from him (at the time of filing the complaint, yomix had on this forum there was a deposit of 1 BTC which was frozen). I won’t go into detail, but now their account is blocked and marked as a scammer.
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.
Is there any reason why you include their BTT ann link? Considering mixers are no longer allowed there, I don't think it is really helpful for most people.
BitMixList (https://bitmixlist.org/) this will give you the list of all the best, reliable and privacy sites Bitcoin mixers with additional information like the history of Bitcoin mixers and others
Nice and clean list, but maybe you should also add list of archived and closed mixers (no need to add all details for them).
I would also add Joinmarket, and controversial wallets with Coinjoin (Samourai and Wasabi).
Are all listed mixers support only Bitcoin or there are some with support for other altcoins?
I plan to add these three mixers to the list, but they are quite unknown to me.[/size]
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I am not sure that it is important to mention mixers from the past, as well as possibly scam mixers or phishing sites. Simply, if they are not on the recommended list, then they should not be considered.
[/size]Trezor can't do any coinjoin on their own, only in cooperation with Wasabi zkSnacks.
I could also add wallets with the Coinjoin function. Does the Trezor belong there, as far as I know, it also offers a similar possibility.
I have never tried any of this mixers, so it's hard to really write a good review of any of them at the moment, but then, I hope to try unijoin mixer soon, since it's also a mandatory thing for me to do as one of their signature ad campaign participant.Read and write carefully.
34. Promoting or linking to mixer services is prohibited.[11][/size]
35. Promoting or linking to DDoS services is prohibited.[12]
Other forums don't necessarily have a large total number of daily visitors because the aim of this mixer campaign is to increase mixer users, and if other forums still accept mixer campaigns, you have to pay attention to how much traffic they get and how many people visit the mixer website. Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum, so Theymos doesn't want to damage the forum's image just because of a mixer.I have never tried any of this mixers, so it's hard to really write a good review of any of them at the moment, but then, I hope to try unijoin mixer soon, since it's also a mandatory thing for me to do as one of their signature ad campaign participant.Read and write carefully.
You are wearing mixer signature, and I think campaign rules are that you should try and review Unijon ;)
Do you know any other forum or place that is advertising mixers right now except Altcoinstalks?
After mixer exodus happened there are two new rules added in bitcointalk forum today, and now mixers with ddos services are officially prohibited and not allowed there.34. Promoting or linking to mixer services is prohibited.[11][/size]
35. Promoting or linking to DDoS services is prohibited.[12]
Other forums don't necessarily have a large total number of daily visitors because the aim of this mixer campaign is to increase mixer users, and if other forums still accept mixer campaigns, you have to pay attention to how much traffic they get and how many people visit the mixer website. Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum, so Theymos doesn't want to damage the forum's image just because of a mixer.
I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅AltcoinsTalks is a friendly crypto forum, here we do not ban any good projects. Each project has its own solution, its own target users and its own role in this market.
reserved pixelsLet's start a mega discussion about mixers.
I will try to keep all the information up to date, but any suggestion is welcome
Personally, I agree with joniboini. I would not include bitcointalk links are users might find outdated information thereOP can add prefix OLD ann topic, so everyone can go back in history and see specific mixer activity, something like archive for each service.
It would be best if those services create official accounts in altscointalks forum to answer questions directly here, like it was in bitcointalk forum.
Tumbler.io and few other mixers don't even have ann topic here yet.
It would be best if those services create official accounts in altscointalks forum to answer questions directly here, like it was in bitcointalk forum.
Tumbler.io and few other mixers don't even have ann topic here yet.
I agree with you.
Mixers must move their ANN from bitcointalk to altcoinstalk so community can get their support here. Public places for discussions with service representative is a must for this kind of services.
This is a quite helpful thread for those people who want to learn about Bitcoin mixers. I'm happy to see that you have listed most of the mixers that are available. This is going to be the main thread for the ones who want to find details about the mixers. Just keep it updated as soon as needed! +Karma for the thread.Yes we certainly don't know about many mixers and we also don't know which mixers have fees, maximum and minimum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed. Through this topic we got to know a lot about mixer and we can also know about what kind of announcement this mixer will make in the future through this thread. Thanks to OP who created this important useful topic.
They could blacklist any address they want and sending anything from that address to exchange would trigger automatic alert on their system, that could freeze your account.
I think Unijoin is smarter with addresses than other banned mixer you mentioned and they wont get connected with notorious hackers group.
Looking at the whole thing about Sinbad, didn't they turn out to be quite wiseWise how? :o
Remember Chipmixer, who had a huge amount of Bitcoins, servers, and data seized...Yes I remember.
Yes we certainly don't know about many mixers and we also don't know which mixers have fees, maximum and minimum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed. Through this topic we got to know a lot about mixer and we can also know about what kind of announcement this mixer will make in the future through this thread. Thanks to OP who created this important useful topic.Yes, through this thread we can get all information about the mixers and I'm happy to see that members are already gaining some benefits by reading this thread. I would love to visit this thread time after time so I can gain updated information about the mixers.
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I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅AltcoinsTalks is a friendly crypto forum, here we do not ban any good projects. Each project has its own solution, its own target users and its own role in this market.
I believe that Crypto Mixer is one of the important parts to protect user anonymity, and not everyone who uses these services is a bad person with bad intentions. Many organizations and individuals do not want their investments to be traced 8)
-RESERVED-CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
This is definitely not the final version of this post, there are a few more mixers that I know of, but I can't access some of them right now because of DDoS attacks, and I'm a bit tired right now.
I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅I don't think this forum will ban mixers anytime soon. unless it is pressurized by some big govt entity or something like that. which I don't think would happen. because Mixers generally are not illegal. it's just that they are used for illegal activities which brings them into trouble.
Do you know any other forum or place that is advertising mixers right now except Altcoinstalks?
Personally, I don't see a big problem with mixers as I don't see eye to eye with the governments and in this age where data can be a treasure it is time that we secure our data and not be shared to anyone without our permission. Using the best mixer in the market according to one's preferences is one option one can use to evade intrusion into a person's privacy.
CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
I believe it was temporary because I just tried accessing the site from my end and it worked fine, I might go back after some few hours to see if I’ll get any error while accessing it.
- Updated the first post and added Tengricrypto.com
- I'm still not sure if Bitcointalk links are necessary, given the existing restrictions there
Yap, always need to check the Tor site in order to confirm that some of the mixer services are offline. We know from earlier that mixers can ignore clearnet sites, probably due to the greater use of Tor sites, and clearnet sites are more susceptible to ddos attacks.I think it is normal that some Mixer sites no longer have support on the Tor platform because, as you know, in America there are policy problems with Mixer, so many site providers are careful and don't want to have problems with the government or police regarding everything. which smells like a cryptocurrency mixer.
I think it is normal that some Mixer sites no longer have support on the Tor platform because, as you know, in America there are policy problems with Mixer, so many site providers are careful and don't want to have problems with the government or police regarding everything. which smells like a cryptocurrency mixer.
3+ btc order. After almost 3 days still no money and no response to emails
Looks like I can't send PMs. Meanwhile there is still no answer from Tengri
Hello, sorry for the delay, I am investigating the case.
User @yummie deleted his posts, i.e. the content from them, unfortunately. It would be good if he also confirmed here and shared his experience with the Tengri mixer. It would certainly be significant for some future users.
Well, we cannot add more information, the user has requested maximum privacy. We respect the privacy of each user, finally the incident has been resolved via support. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your interest. And thanks for reporting this matter.
How do you feel about this kind of transparency?I feel great thanks for asking ;D
Can someone add stats information for all listed mixer websites, so that we can see who is better ranked and who is having more visits from customers?
Maybe we cant get very precise information and I dont think this is possible for onion links, but it can still be useful for some people.
It appears that Yomix has inherited Sinbad's clients. Maybe it will bring profit in the short term, but in the long term, it can bring problems with the authorities I would be careful here and pay attention.I think cross-chain bridges are more problematic here than mixers, and they are much easier to shut down.
I'm not sure how "clean" the Bitcoins are now from their network.
It appears that Yomix has inherited Sinbad's clients. Maybe it will bring profit in the short term, but in the long term, it can bring problems with the authorities I would be careful here and pay attention.
I'm not sure how "clean" the Bitcoins are now from their network.
https://cryptopotato.com/chainalysis-yomix-emerges-as-top-bitcoin-mixer-after-tornado-cash-sinbad-shutdowns/
I wonder what is the probability of it having the same owner as Sinbad.
That would make more sense if it is true. Otherwise there is at least 10 more mixers that these guys aren't touching.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
Yomix and Cryptomixer.io. icopress tipped me on the potentially illicit use of these mixers.
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.You expect to receive answer from them in forum? ;D
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.
Either the Lazarus group is expanding significantly in the cryptocurrency, or it has become an excuse for governments to close any mixer. In general, with the tightening of the laws, I think it is a matter of time before all mixers are banned.
Following the current trend, all other mixers may be close to closing, it's enough for this Lazarus group to send their Bitcoins and screw up their business.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
Either the Lazarus group is expanding significantly in the cryptocurrency, or it has become an excuse for governments to close any mixer. In general, with the tightening of the laws, I think it is a matter of time before all mixers are banned.
Following the current trend, all other mixers may be close to closing, it's enough for this Lazarus group to send their Bitcoins and screw up their business.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
What case are you talking about and is it serious or similar to what happened with UNIJOIN?
What case are you talking about and is it serious or similar to what happened with UNIJOIN?
Looks like yomix stolen more than 200.000 few weeks ago. Some discussions here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63795943#msg63795943
I wonder how everything would look like if there was no mixer ban on Bitcointalk.
I agree, bitcointalk really added community support to those services.I think we are missing this in AltcoinsTalks forum, and I don't understand why they don't create accounts here after they got banned in bitcointalk forum.
We have só many boards here. Maybe admin could make a mixing/coinjoin board in bitcoin section?I don't think this would change much.
We have só many boards here. Maybe admin could make a mixing/coinjoin board in bitcoin section?
Looks like yomix stolen more than 200.000 few weeks ago. Some discussions hereI couldn't find any confirmation on Google.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63795943#msg63795943
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.Lazarus Group has been mentioned several times and has been linked to Tornado Cash[1], Blender.io[2] Chipmixer[3] and Sinbad[4] All of these mixers mixed millions of dollars, and no case of losing money was reported, so it was surprising that this happened with YoMix, especially since they showed that they had no financial problem, and the amount was 2.5 bitcoins, compared to what was paid in the signature campaign only.
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Why dont you post some link with more information about this and other suspected mixers?
It doesnt have to be written in English language, everyone here knows to use translators, and I am sure this would be interesting reading material.
They are dark-net forums, and some of them are not available for public registration (I tried to register in some of them, but it seems that registration is closed), so mentioning links will not help in anything. The best you will get is a screenshot, but I will choose to trust what icopress says.I dont need to register on them to read what is written, and links or screenshots can be posted as proof.
I dont need to register on them to read what is written, and links or screenshots can be posted as proof.This seems logical. I hope that Icopress will provide any evidence here or send it to you in private and let us hear your evaluation of these allegations
Without confirming some evidence I am not going to trust words and rumors of anyone, but you can do it if you want.
Nobody can guarantee that some group wont use any other available mixers.
Yomix withdrew his deposits from 2 forums on which they were advertised (Exploit and another), and literally a few days after that, on another large hacker forum XSS, a user provided evidence that yomix stole 2 BTC from him (at the time of filing the complaint, yomix had on this forum there was a deposit of 1 BTC which was frozen). I won’t go into detail, but now their account is blocked and marked as a scammer.That does not sound good. Do you have evidences to support your claims. I agree here with notblox1. Without having a concreate evidence it's not usual to believe the words considering the amount of money they spent in advertising on Bitcointalk forum.
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.
That does not sound good. Do you have evidences to support your claims. I agree here with notblox1. Without having a concreate evidence it's not usual to believe the words considering the amount of money they spent in advertising on Bitcointalk forum.
I partially agree. However , as this information comes from icopress which has a lot more information than us about those services, I certainly wouldn't use that mixer. Specially when there are other more reliable optionsI think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.
I partially agree. However , as this information comes from icopress which has a lot more information than us about those services, I certainly wouldn't use that mixer. Specially when there are other more reliable optionsI am still looking forward to a source to read and verify the news by myself. It's strange that there are no public information available to read. The latest news I found online about yomix is to emerges the top bitcoin mixer. (https://cryptopotato.com/chainalysis-yomix-emerges-as-top-bitcoin-mixer-after-tornado-cash-sinbad-shutdowns/) For a mixer, 2 or 5 BTC is just a small amount.
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.bitmixlist.org does not have it now. @NotATether, can we have your source at least?
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
It can be challenging to know what mixers are good and what bad, but I think this can be achieved with community help and posting regular news and updates.
This is just my 2 sats, but it's his list so he can do whatever he wants.
I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
It can be challenging to know what mixers are good and what bad, but I think this can be achieved with community help and posting regular news and updates.
This is just my 2 sats, but it's his list so he can do whatever he wants.
Yeah, we really need some kind of trust system in this forum.I was not talking about trust system in forum in my previous post, this was strictly related to mixer warnings with colors.
I added an orange warning next to Yomix in the table from the first post. Referred to the quoted icopress post about it.Icopress posted some screenshots with more information about Yomix in bitcointalk forum, so you should check that out:
Orange, because still not confirmed with proof, even though I don't doubt the icopress words.
Red-coloured warnings would mean that the service is officially recognized as a scam or dysfunctional.
Icopress posted some screenshots with more information about Yomix in bitcointalk forum, so you should check that out:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63892572#msg63892572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63892572#msg63892572)
The color can be converted to red and Yomix can not be trusted.
Сan you sort by the year the mixer was created? Users will see how long ago this or that Bitcoin mixer has been providing its services to users.
what happened:
I need to mix bitcoins, so I tried to use yomix (https://[banned mixer]/).
because I trust yomix, I did not check step by step the amount of bitcoins sent to me after each mixing, nor did I check one by one through the blockchain explorer whether I received it Mix Bitcoin (because the yomix website prompts that the sending was successful).
Finally I was surprised to find that the order showed that it was sent successfully, but no Bitcoin was sent to my wallet address (the success deceived my eyes, because at first I thought yomix would not lie to me, but the fact is, after the transaction was completed, the order told me The mix succeeds, the send succeeds, but I don't receive any bitcoins at all).
So I tried submitting multiple tickets to contact order support. It has been 7 days and no one has contacted me and my ticket has not been answered.
The current loss is about US$30,000-40,000.
So, please stay away from this scam site (at least so far my order bitcoins have not been sent to my wallet).
I also hope that yomix can send the funds that originally belong to me after seeing my message, because this is very important to me.
While we don't have a privacy/mixer board, we can discuss bitcoin privacy here.We have only few pages are written in this topic so I am not sure if enough members is interested in doing this, but creating a pool could tell us more.
I just changed to a red warning next to the Yomix name, I also removed the links to their website.
Although the user did not provide clear evidence, this is yet another accusation coming against them. Given that this is already the second known accusation, this is only in the form of prevention.
Are those bitcointalk link useful? I think those account are basically all inactive....
Most of them doesn't post since 2023.
btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.orgBut Jambler is not a mixer and you can't use it directly for mixing, so it makes no sense to add it in mixer list.
Jambler should still be safe on Bitcointalk or others if they keep the word about "mixer" under wraps. Some time ago the signature used in Bitcointlak explained that there was an indication of a Mixer, so that is what ultimately led to Jambler being said to be a mixer until finally the signature campaign on Bitcointalk had to be stopped.NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.orgBut Jambler is not a mixer and you can't use it directly for mixing, so it makes no sense to add it in mixer list.
Only way Jambler could be added if jambler note would be added next to the currently listed mixers that are partners with Jambler.
Or maybe add a new section that is separate from other mixers, since Jambler is still a good privacy tool.
btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I couldn't find anything.btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I would add jambler to that list.
They have been kickout from bitcointalk. They should be welcomed here.
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org (https://Bitmixlist.org)
QuoteNotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org (https://Bitmixlist.org)I couldn't find anything.
Does it mean we only need theymos validity to know what is a mixer or not. Assuming jambler wasn't kicked out of BTT, they wouldn't have appeared here and now they are kicked out, it is a confirmation that Jambler is a mixer. Lolbtw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I would add jambler to that list.
They have been kickout from bitcointalk. They should be welcomed here.
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org
Does it mean we only need theymos validity to know what is a mixer or not. Assuming jambler wasn't kicked out of BTT, they wouldn't have appeared here and now they are kicked out, it is a confirmation that Jambler is a mixer. LolWith your crazy logic every new service that that comes here and creates a topic in this forum from bitcointalk is a mixer ::)
Hi bitcoiners,https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494019.0
I have been using Yo!Mix from the 2022 and everything was great until this time I sent them 2.10 BTC and i have letter og gaurantee, still I didint receive any portion of my order and I tried to open ticket with them no answer and response from them.
Does anyone know if YoMix still in business or they just start to scam people?
Note:
Yes I have proof and transactions history
Unfortunately, another complaint about Yomix, it's obviously an exit scam.
Unfortunately, another complaint about Yomix, it's obviously an exit scam.I think someone should finally give them negative feedback in bitcointalk forum for scamming people.
Well, we have three mixers that have been offline for some time and we don't have any information from them. I'll wait another day in case it's maintenance before I remove them from the list.It is very unfortunate that we have some mixers that suddenly become offline.
tumbler.io
unijoin.io
cryptomixer.io
Well, we have three mixers that have been offline for some time and we don't have any information from them. I'll wait another day in case it's maintenance before I remove them from the list.
tumbler.io
unijoin.io
cryptomixer.io
It is very unfortunate that we have some mixers that suddenly become offline.
TBH, I'm very curious about this, is this caused by the news of Wasabi and ZkSnack shut down coinjoin service?
Well, I just hope it is just temporary offline. Then, you will add again Tumbler.io and Unijoin.io on the list. :'(
With these services shutting down, it might disrupt their business until they can find another source of liquidity to mix with or they change their process to not be dependent on third parties. It could also be that they got spooked by the recent arrests and decided to shut down before the same happened to them.