Suggestion about giving negative karma

[yhiaali3]

Hello admin
There has been discussion about negative karma and its misuse on the forum by some in this thread:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317214.0

I made a suggestion there about making giving negative karma a little more difficult, as follows:

My suggestion: Why do we not make giving negative karma a little more difficult, for example when press the negative karma button, a dialog is asked to write a convincing reason to give a negative Karma with a warning of misuse of the system, if he is serious and write the reason and the press send or OK  then it will be given a negative Karma with sending a message to the member tells him the reason for obtaining a negative Karma.

We can get several benefits of that: some annoyers stop playing and pressing a negative Karma button without responsibility. Also, the intended member gets a message showing the reason for obtaining a negative Karma and also will help the Mods of their work when submitting a complaint regarding negative karma.

This is just a suggestion and it is possible to have defects and I do not know if its application is possible in terms of technical aspect. But at least it can reduce giving negative Karma without a convincing reason.

Freemind then advised me to submit my proposal here:

Please, when you have time, make this proposal in Suggestion Box, If the initiative receives more support, I don't think the administrator will refuse to implement it.

I thought it appropriate to put my proposal here to get your opinion and also to put the proposal for public discussion.
Thank you

[Husires]

Is Karma essential to rank up? I thought the number of posts was the important factor, but if you see that your Karma points have decreased significantly, then you can request The Eye of Sauron and report it if you feel that a user is abusing using Karma.

It may be possible to expand the possibility of obtaining The Eye of Sauron and giving it to the Decentralized Team, where you can ask them to check your account and see if there is any abuse before contacting admin.

[bitmover]

negative karma is important to keep bad users out.

I think that the ability to give positive and negative karma should be limited,  according to account rank or something else.
Making it harder for a single user (or a few) to create many  accounts and give a lot of negative karma


As Husires said, it is not important to rank up. So I think it won't be a problem for most users to receive a few negative karmas

[Jokers]

I think that the ability to give positive and negative karma should be limited,  according to account rank or something else.

It is. You can change karma of other users only if your rank is Senior+.

Making it harder for a single user (or a few) to create many  accounts and give a lot of negative karma

Having multiple undeclared accounts is a violation by itself. And abusing karma is an additional violation. I'd not recommend anyone to check which will be the result of such a game.

[yhiaali3]

As Husires said, it is not important to rank up. So I think it won't be a problem for most users to receive a few negative karmas

It is not a problem for the rank, but it causes great inconvenience to some members who think that they write well and do not offend anyone, as happened with yahoo62278, who created a topic and stated that he received negative karma without knowing a clear reason. Although everyone knows that yahoo62278 is a respected member with a good reputation and adheres to the rules very much.

I also don't know if karma plays a role in advanced ranks. I think that a rank higher than legendary requires a certain number of activity and karma in order to move to the next rank (I'm not sure).

In any case, this small update to Karma, if it receives the admin's approval, will limit the existing problems and will not be difficult to implement in the forum.

[yahoo62278]

I think that the ability to give positive and negative karma should be limited,  according to account rank or something else.

It is. You can change karma of other users only if your rank is Senior+.

Making it harder for a single user (or a few) to create many  accounts and give a lot of negative karma

Having multiple undeclared accounts is a violation by itself. And abusing karma is an additional violation. I'd not recommend anyone to check which will be the result of such a game.

What is the point of an alt account if you have to declare you have an alt? Aren't most creating alts to hide their main?

@OP admin has already stated he will look into some changes for Karma soon.

[Jokers]

What is the point of an alt account if you have to declare you have an alt? Aren't most creating alts to hide their main?

One has to declare it to admin only, so if I see someone with a duplicate badge, I don't know which account is primal for this duplicated. Main idea is that you don't really need to have multiple accounts, better to have and develop the one single.

[robelneo]

Opening a dialog box and filling up the reason why you're giving a negative or positive karma is a good recommendation I support this suggestion, there should be a karma moderator to check if the user deserves the positive or the negative karma that has been given to him, and may I suggest if its possible, if the negative karma is not worth giving then the negative karma will be added to the one who gave that negative karma so there will be unnecessary giving of negative karma unless its necessary.

[PX-Z]

That is a good suggestion, but I still like the idea of how karma is given on Reddit, that there's an indication of whether you give karma to specific posts and the number of karma it receives. Although you can add and remove the karma there without time restrictions unlike here. The 10 hours time restriction is also a bit disappointing IMO, that it's too long for me and it should be post-based, not user-based. What I mean is you can give karma to a user on his different posts, 1 karma for every specific post. Now since you can give karma in PM pages, then it should be once there for a certain time.

[yhiaali3]

and may I suggest if its possible, if the negative karma is not worth giving then the negative karma will be added to the one who gave that negative karma so there will be unnecessary giving of negative karma unless its necessary.

Yes, I expect that this is a good suggestion, but it is only possible in cases of complaint because it requires an investigation to be opened by the Moderator so that he can find out whether the negative karma is deserved or not. However, for every case of negative karma to be investigated will be very exhausting for the Moderators.

The 10 hours time restriction is also a bit disappointing IMO, that it's too long for me and it should be post-based, not user-based. What I mean is you can give karma to a user on his different posts, 1 karma for every specific post. Now since you can give karma in PM pages, then it should be once there for a certain time.

Yes, this is true. It is better to give karma on the basis of the topic and not user-based, but abuse of the system may occur if the number of hours is reduced, as successive karma can be given to the same user on several posts.

[Cryptsafe]

That is a good suggestion, but I still like the idea of how karma is given on Reddit, that there's an indication of whether you give karma to specific posts and the number of karma it receives. Although you can add and remove the karma there without time restrictions unlike here. The 10 hours time restriction is also a bit disappointing IMO, that it's too long for me and it should be post-based, not user-based. What I mean is you can give karma to a user on his different posts, 1 karma for every specific post. Now since you can give karma in PM pages, then it should be once there for a certain time.

I support your idea; the time gap to give karma is far too long and should be reduced. Either karma is released based on a post   made or a topic created, and there should not be limited timing for karma issuance.This would be very much welcomed if it were put into consideration. Although there have been issues and threads created to that effect, I strongly believe the admin is working on it.

[Findingnemo]

There should be some changes regarding this needed for sure or at least making the information public that who is giving negative and positive Karma will expose lot of farms and fraudsters.

Until Now I received about 3 negative Karma and I have no idea who gave it to be, but it could be a result of pointing out the wrong info of someone and they are not satisfied with it but it's not really good for the future of the forum in my opinion.

[Jokers]

There should be some changes regarding this needed for sure or at least making the information public that who is giving negative and positive Karma will expose lot of farms and fraudsters.

Until Now I received about 3 negative Karma and I have no idea who gave it to be, but it could be a result of pointing out the wrong info of someone and they are not satisfied with it but it's not really good for the future of the forum in my opinion.

Main solution to solve the problem with single occasional -karmas is to try to improve your posts so to get more +karmas. Many of us get some occasional -karmas, sometimes it even can be done by a mistake when someone wants to give +karma but mistakenly taps -karma. Well, not very pleasant but as long as others tend to give +karma more often occasional -karma is not a real issue.

[DabsPoorVersion]

There should be some changes regarding this needed for sure or at least making the information public that who is giving negative and positive Karma will expose lot of farms and fraudsters.

Until Now I received about 3 negative Karma and I have no idea who gave it to be, but it could be a result of pointing out the wrong info of someone and they are not satisfied with it but it's not really good for the future of the forum in my opinion.

This has already been raised in previous months. But the admin always says that this will only create a conflict between each other in this forum. Let's continue to have a friendly community, the only thing we can do to avoid receiving more negative karma is to change the way we point out something we disagree on someone's post. Let's discuss all the things being cool and try not to create misunderstandings with any other user.

[Findingnemo]

Main solution to solve the problem with single occasional -karmas is to try to improve your posts so to get more +karmas. Many of us get some occasional -karmas, sometimes it even can be done by a mistake when someone wants to give +karma but mistakenly taps -karma. Well, not very pleasant but as long as others tend to give +karma more often occasional -karma is not a real issue.

If negative Karma is given to someone unintentionally then it's okay but when someone doesn't like the way you create a post or they just wants to destroy the reputation of a particular member can use this against them since granting Karma is not limited apart from time restrictions.

I try to be very polite with every comment I post but when I see someone blabs completely wrong about something then the right thing is to point out their mistake irrespective of how we do it, right?