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Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« on: January 31, 2025, 11:12:15 PM »
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise

My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?
They are clearly abusing regular people to invest their money so they can dump on them later.
And by doing this they are motivating other scammers to continue with similar activity...
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2025, 01:22:38 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some invisible hand that is pulling the strings and Musks name is just being used as collateral to get free money from innocent investor's.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2025, 01:42:58 PM »
My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?

Because Trump good for cryto, Trump hype, much pump, such profit, wow!

People would vote for Hitler if he would airdrop them a few pennies, they would stick their tongue down Buffett's ass if he would buy 1 BTC, and many more. I asked in a topic if people would buy a nazi coin and I got users saying that they see no problem with such a coin.
This is what the majority wanted, this is what they are getting.

and btw

Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk

that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.



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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2025, 02:03:13 PM »
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise.
I really much wouldn't blame them for launching those coins because the people that get to lose their money from them were not actually forced into investing however they did invest in them nevertheless. Majority of mene coins if not all follow the same pattern of pump and dump the masses are aware of this but sometimes they are too greedy to not see it as a way to get rich.

Come to think of it those that we tag this coins are scam are those that actually lost a lot from them why those that profited from them will see nothing wrong in them. It's more like a regular profit and loss system.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2025, 10:41:52 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some invisible hand that is pulling the strings and Musks name is just being used as collateral to get free money from innocent investor's.
Literally his own father is creating this crap token.
And sure, Elon Musk is just a puppet controlled by his masters, people are naive to think he is really doing all his ''business'' on his own.

that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.
I tried to find the name of his father and that was result stupid AI gave me.
Never trust me or AI, and if you know his real name post it here :)
 
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2025, 09:57:19 AM »
that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.
I tried to find the name of his father and that was result stupid AI gave me.
Never trust me or AI, and if you know his real name post it here :)

It's Errol Musk, and the last time I read news about those two they didn't get along too well, so this is more like his father piggy-banking on his son's name, but Elon himself did enough to land in jail anyhow.
Oh, and for the AI, simply don't use it, if it has been feed the wrong data it will give wrong answers too.

I really much wouldn't blame them for launching those coins because the people that get to lose their money from them were not actually forced into investing however they did invest in them nevertheless.

Nobody is forcing you to eat the food I've been poisoning, you should do your lab analysis before eating and don't blame me for your death.
See how this works?

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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2025, 10:18:20 AM »
It's about making money as quickly as possible. As I said in another of my posts, Trump is not only taking advantage of his position, he is also taking advantage of the future US Bitcoin reserve to launch various junk tokens. Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something? For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

We might think that Trump's opponents would complain about what the president is doing, but as we see, no one says anything. As long as all this remains the same, they will continue to launch tokens of this type so that many people lose their investment and Trump and his closest people continue to earn hundreds of millions of dollars.

It never ceases to amaze me how many sheep there are in the world.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2025, 10:18:20 AM »


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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2025, 10:04:05 PM »
It's Errol Musk, and the last time I read news about those two they didn't get along too well, so this is more like his father piggy-banking on his son's name, but Elon himself did enough to land in jail anyhow.
Oh, and for the AI, simply don't use it, if it has been feed the wrong data it will give wrong answers too.
Right, I remember story about his family that was doing business with diamonds, so they are certainly not clean.
I don't use AI for anything serious, but Brave search is giving automated AI answers.
Like it or not most people use stuff like that and you can see Trump and Musk are working OpenAI now.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2025, 11:03:56 PM »
It's about making money as quickly as possible. As I said in another of my posts, Trump is not only taking advantage of his position, he is also taking advantage of the future US Bitcoin reserve to launch various junk tokens. Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something? For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

We might think that Trump's opponents would complain about what the president is doing, but as we see, no one says anything. As long as all this remains the same, they will continue to launch tokens of this type so that many people lose their investment and Trump and his closest people continue to earn hundreds of millions of dollars.

It never ceases to amaze me how many sheep there are in the world.
What you are saying now, I had said before that if people didn't begin to speak, to castigate all these high rises of memecoins being launched in the crypto space out of the blue, this will not stop happening. Because it just feels like nobody is against it, people are just liking it to continue as some are being favored financially through it. Some who would have loved to speak out fall into the same trap of investing with the motive of quick gains.

In the crypto space, the motive for quick gains is in the minds of many investors, and that's the reason why cryptocurrencies are on the rise; people chose it as the coin to launch since investors now see memecoins to make quick profits.

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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2025, 08:40:12 PM »
What you are saying now, I had said before that if people didn't begin to speak, to castigate all these high rises of memecoins being launched in the crypto space out of the blue, this will not stop happening. Because it just feels like nobody is against it, people are just liking it to continue as some are being favored financially through it. Some who would have loved to speak out fall into the same trap of investing with the motive of quick gains.

In the crypto space, the motive for quick gains is in the minds of many investors, and that's the reason why cryptocurrencies are on the rise; people chose it as the coin to launch since investors now see memecoins to make quick profits.

Cryptocurrencies are becoming better known every day and more and more people are aware of them. The first thing people see are the famous names, Musk, Trump, Melania, Musk's father... And they believe that there is the essence of cryptocurrencies, it is sad, but it is true. I bet there are even newcomers who don't even know "who" Satoshi is, what a blockchain is and how it works. Unfortunately, we can't do anything to change that and the rise of memecoins grows every day.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2025, 06:40:41 AM »
Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something?

Well, there was a guy who wanted all these to be treated like securities, and everyone who would promote and launch these things to be held liable for everything, just like every security out there is treated. But, the crypto world didn't like that guy and cheered when he was fired, and now, everyone is free to scam everyone and rug pull at any time since that's the freedom some wanted.

For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

People still kiss the asses of liars and scammers and even cheer for centralization if that would help them gain some $.
Keep a bag of popcorn ready for the time when going against the principles of BTC would mean more money, it will be a nice turn of events.

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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2025, 02:00:38 PM »

Because Musk and Trump is above the law.   :P

No one wants to ruin them yet unless they are not in power anymore. There is nothing can be done when they are the official yet besides there are powerful people behind these two. They can both just destroy anyone who would claim they are scammers.

I don't think Gensler would even say something even if he is the SEC still. He even end up teaching in MIT not related to blockchain anymore AFAIK.

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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2025, 02:33:02 PM »
People would vote for Hitler if he would airdrop them a few pennies, they would stick their tongue down Buffett's ass if he would buy 1 BTC, and many more. I asked in a topic if people would buy a nazi coin and I got users saying that they see no problem with such a coin.
you say this as a joke but actually people really would prop hitler if he was giving people free money i mean didn’t elon musk basically did the nazi hand salute? it was a debate online whether actually did it or not regardless of what you believe i think it’s safe to say that our world has become so greedy and we are being eaten by capitalism that we are forgetting about our morals

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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2025, 09:10:58 PM »
~snip~They can both just destroy anyone who would claim they are scammers.

That's another important part of the problem. Society, as a general rule, has allowed people to accuse, mark and draw a target on the heads of people who tell the truth and accuse abuse of power, like those we have seen. Since when do you have to be afraid to tell the truth?. And most importantly, why do we as a society allow it?. Yesterday I read an article that ended with these words: "The United States is no longer the country it was a few weeks ago". Unfortunately, I agree with those words.
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Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2025, 10:24:09 AM »
you say this as a joke but actually people really would prop hitler if he was giving people free money i mean didn’t elon musk basically did the nazi hand salute? it was a debate online whether actually did it or not regardless of what you believe i think it’s safe to say that our world has become so greedy and we are being eaten by capitalism that we are forgetting about our morals

Capitalism is not greed.
You can have greed in communism too, I know that too well since I lived in a communist dictatorship, greed and desire to acquire was beyond what you see now, capitalism is an economic concept, it can't change human nature and we have been killing each other for a better rock or a piece of hide for millennia.

Besides, bitcoin is the true definition of capitalism, you have money you buy, and you don't have any coins. No equal distribution, no welfare tax, no
 deduction, no nothing.

 

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