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Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« on: May 01, 2024, 09:45:37 PM »
Almost every tech giant cuts off their employees a lot to cut down their operational costs and this resulted in the emergence of AI which swapped the requirement of an actual human needed for the task and the trend will likely follow in the coming years too.

The condition remains the same in every field, an exception could be the medical field.

So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2024, 06:37:23 AM »
The condition remains the same in every field, an exception could be the medical field.

Maybe for now the medical field is spared from possible huge job losses but with the emergence of technologies prodded by AI the time will come when this industry will also be facing its own headwinds. In the past many months, I always read news of many big corporations like Meta and Google who slashed their human resources as they faced some bleak future possibilities. And I think this trend will continue to be affecting many businesses all over the world most especially in USA. Indeed, we can say that the global economy is downsizing and we should be prepared the ill-effects of this continuing problem.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2024, 09:37:41 AM »
Almost every tech giant cuts off their employees a lot to cut down their operational costs and this resulted in the emergence of AI which swapped the requirement of an actual human needed for the task and the trend will likely follow in the coming years too.

The condition remains the same in every field, an exception could be the medical field.

So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
the answer is simple for me  , try not to be an employee but try to built your own business/company so from this you will never be off against AI/Robots because you are now the boss and will serve your client.
this is the sad reality of development that we are now leaning towards technology and the human skills is slowly dying , because we are now fond of high or speed result than the traditional one.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2024, 09:27:10 PM »
the answer is simple for me  , try not to be an employee but try to built your own business/company so from this you will never be off against AI/Robots because you are now the boss and will serve your client.
this is the sad reality of development that we are now leaning towards technology and the human skills is slowly dying , because we are now fond of high or speed result than the traditional one.

Being your own boss doesn't eradicate the root cause here, let's assume someone working in a bakery and mastered baking now thinks in the future a robot could take his job and go out and start his bakery but still, the machines are going to make things to more perfection than an actual human with negligible maintenance cost than paying salary so as a business owner we can run the bakery with little to no profits if we decided to compete against the evolution.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2024, 09:20:53 AM »
So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
I think what's best is to invest in getting new knowledge on what's the trend and possible trend in the future. Have a vision or a choice of something you can learn that will still be needed even if most of the jobs are being replaced with AI. An expertise where a human intervention is always needed, that a bot can't do as it needs on-the-spot decision making.
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2024, 10:11:15 AM »
This process is nothing new. Humanity has already gone through similar scenarios, from mechanization to industrialization, when new technologies expectedly implemented mechanisms to reduce personnel costs and/or increase labor efficiency. Similarly, the big language model + neural networks, erroneously called "AI", will replace some professions.  It's called progress and development of the world. Unfortunately, due to such developments, some people/specialties may not be in demand. Taking into account that the modern world has become much more volatile, it is necessary to prepare for such events in advance - learn new specialties, build your business, form passive income, invest,....

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2024, 12:05:40 PM »
Almost every tech giant cuts off their employees a lot to cut down their operational costs and this resulted in the emergence of AI which swapped the requirement of an actual human needed for the task and the trend will likely follow in the coming years too.

The condition remains the same in every field, an exception could be the medical field.

So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
Well, an individual can secure a job by acquiring new and unique skills that cannot be taken by AI for a while and I think that is the only solution to that. I've been reading topics that has the same concept as this one like AI taking over human jobs and yeah it's all have the same approach like the one I just said above.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2024, 02:01:08 PM »
So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
I think what's best is to invest in getting new knowledge on what's the trend and possible trend in the future. Have a vision or a choice of something you can learn that will still be needed even if most of the jobs are being replaced with AI. An expertise where a human intervention is always needed, that a bot can't do as it needs on-the-spot decision making.

Technically correct approach but lot of practical difficulties to be honest, imagine you are working in a sector that all you know for years which may suddenly replaced by AI and now you go on and pursue a completely different skill that even may face the similar problems in the next few years. As of now it's kind of confused state whether the AGI and ASI concept will become real but if we are evolving at this rate then it won't take more than couple of decades Max to see a complete transition that we never expected.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2024, 02:59:10 PM »
My guess is that the Government will intervene when job losses increases at an alarming rate. Why? Because by then, tax collections from the middle class (working class) will drop significantly and they will be forced to provide aid to millions of jobless citizens. Imagine no new money but with added expenditure. Governments don't want things like that to happen.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2024, 12:31:41 PM »
My guess is that the Government will intervene when job losses increases at an alarming rate. Why? Because by then, tax collections from the middle class (working class) will drop significantly and they will be forced to provide aid to millions of jobless citizens. Imagine no new money but with added expenditure. Governments don't want things like that to happen.

You have very correctly pointed out one nuance that everyone forgets about when talking about "AI will take over the world and take away people's jobs" or "technology will leave the world without jobs".
First and foremost, AI, in the full-fledged form of Artificial Intelligence, does not exist today. This means that AI will not be able to set a goal of enslaving "primitive bio-organisms like humans" :)
Second, no less important - a fully technogenic world (when people as a labor force will not be needed) will lead to the extinction of the human species.
Thirdly, power is POWER over people, with the reduction of humanity, power will lose its "attractiveness" and its "advantages".
Like what you said - a drastic reduction of the middle class is a disaster for the state. That means :
- lower consumption (= slower idegradation of the economy)
- lower tax revenues
- increased social burden on the budget

But there is a nuance here - this is a problem for developed countries. In totalitarian and similar countries, the government just needs a silent mass, whose interest in life will be only the question of getting food to survive. And this is not the middle class, it is the lumpenized majority.

So that's what you're describing:
- is really important.
- but it's only important in a developed community.


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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2024, 04:12:16 PM »
So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
I think what's best is to invest in getting new knowledge on what's the trend and possible trend in the future. Have a vision or a choice of something you can learn that will still be needed even if most of the jobs are being replaced with AI. An expertise where a human intervention is always needed, that a bot can't do as it needs on-the-spot decision making.

Technically correct approach but lot of practical difficulties to be honest, imagine you are working in a sector that all you know for years which may suddenly replaced by AI and now you go on and pursue a completely different skill that even may face the similar problems in the next few years. As of now it's kind of confused state whether the AGI and ASI concept will become real but if we are evolving at this rate then it won't take more than couple of decades Max to see a complete transition that we never expected.
The trend does not limit only in one expertise, in every trend it includes every part or type of job that a human intervention is required as it is also part of the process in developing and improving in that certain field. Aside from that, there is really no such thing as easy in every sector or job. What every individual need to do is to keep on learning and choose for what we see fit for our capability.
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2024, 11:17:22 PM »
So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
I think what's best is to invest in getting new knowledge on what's the trend and possible trend in the future. Have a vision or a choice of something you can learn that will still be needed even if most of the jobs are being replaced with AI. An expertise where a human intervention is always needed, that a bot can't do as it needs on-the-spot decision making.

Technically correct approach but lot of practical difficulties to be honest, imagine you are working in a sector that all you know for years which may suddenly replaced by AI and now you go on and pursue a completely different skill that even may face the similar problems in the next few years. As of now it's kind of confused state whether the AGI and ASI concept will become real but if we are evolving at this rate then it won't take more than couple of decades Max to see a complete transition that we never expected.
The trend does not limit only in one expertise, in every trend it includes every part or type of job that a human intervention is required as it is also part of the process in developing and improving in that certain field. Aside from that, there is really no such thing as easy in every sector or job. What every individual need to do is to keep on learning and choose for what we see fit for our capability.
Exactly. We humans are unique and that AI cannot take over as we feed them information to do exactly what we instructed them through commands. As you have said there is always human intervention in everything we create including AI. Without human intervention, AI will become outdated or obsolete.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2024, 09:36:40 PM »

one possible way to remain employed is to know how to use AI itself. if you can operate a machine to which this machine may sooner have an AI brain, i guess its best that you are the ones taking care of the brain itself.

blue-collar jobs may not actually be replaced by AI. i don't think they already have developed a bot that will wipe a window on fifth floor. but its time to learn new skills because plumbers, electricians and welders are the kind of jobs that will put food on the table.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2024, 10:00:26 AM »

one possible way to remain employed is to know how to use AI itself. if you can operate a machine to which this machine may sooner have an AI brain, i guess its best that you are the ones taking care of the brain itself.

blue-collar jobs may not actually be replaced by AI. i don't think they already have developed a bot that will wipe a window on fifth floor. but its time to learn new skills because plumbers, electricians and welders are the kind of jobs that will put food on the table.

I'll remind you again - but what is now called AI does not have the same artificial intelligence :)
It's just a tool that... IS CONTROLLED BY A HUMAN BEING. And it is not AI that can replace someone less skillful, but a person who uses this "AI" as a tool to improve the efficiency/quality of his work !
We should not be afraid of AI, but learn to use it for our own benefit ! It is just a new round of technology, which opens up new opportunities for us, and with the help of which we only strengthen our advantages. Just learn to use it !
PS Nowadays paranoia about "AI" reminds us of the fear of fire in primitive people. But those who "tamed" it and began to use it for their own good - got huge advantages over those who were afraid of it

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2024, 08:05:50 AM »
Exactly. We humans are unique and that AI cannot take over as we feed them information to do exactly what we instructed them through commands. As you have said there is always human intervention in everything we create including AI. Without human intervention, AI will become outdated or obsolete.
If one door closes, another door opens. As humans, we must force ourselves to adapt to very dynamic technological transformations. Not all jobs can be replaced by AI. In essence, humans are created with uniqueness that has the complexity of different specifications, if that complexity is lost, the world will lose its attractiveness.
Because I am 40 years old, I am starting to map out what professions my child can do with the talents he has. Start providing training to them regarding digitalization of technology that brings digitalization to human life. Therefore, early preparation is really needed so that our children are not surprised by modernization in the next few decades and are expected to survive with the talents and skills that have been prepared.
Of course, information engineering personnel will be in high demand in the future, but of course the competition will also be very tight. Some professions that cannot be replaced by AI (even if they can be replaced are not entirely and the results will definitely be less than satisfactory), athletes, security, medical personnel, lawyers, law enforcers, bureaucrats, journalists, customer service, salesmen.

 

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