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Title: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Spectre on July 08, 2023, 11:23:03 AM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on December 15, 2023, 03:39:08 PM
Every government of a nation are not from the onset meant to keep secrets from the people. First it's a democratic world and therefore the people are technically meant to be the government. The high office holders were just representative out in those positions by the people and so they're to be accountable for every detail, action and reactions and they ought to report back to the people. We can't have a nation, body, organization or community where the people are just oblivious of happenings and decisions made by the heads.
  The country needs to be united, growth is of essence, the citizens are definitely part of the factors that makes up the geographical area and so if decisions or actions or activities are kept away from them, then it's more or less sidelining then and making them irrelevant. They are the sole receptors of whichever consequence either good or bad a leader decision causes. Every elected should never forget that they are to be reporting always to their electorates. It is by the evidence of the reports they gave and effects in the environment that'll prompt them to assess if they were bad or good choice of leaders.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Ehyowiz on December 20, 2023, 03:45:58 PM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
   I feel like they are certain things we the citizens aren’t suppose to know, for our mental health they are things  that are best hidden away from us. Everyone has a different approach of reacting to things, for instance not everyone will take it likely about the existence of ufo, but then we currently have some governmental agencies secretly study them as we speak. People should understand that government do not only have to worry about the internal affairs alone, the external threats too are taken into consideration too as well. I feel like sharing all this information will be too much for a common citizen to handle. Though they are certain things the government need to be transparent about.
   Some of this things are like the revenue and how well they are distributing the resources of the country because people love to know how their money is being utilized. Let’s not be over zealous and give our government officials some credit. They do more than we expect even though some of their actions and decisions may be tough and against our will, we should understand that they’re always reasons for everything.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 21, 2023, 10:39:53 AM
It is their responsibility to provide information to the public, or the citizens about the safety, privacy, and their management of funds they received from public taxes. The government should be transparent and be the one to be the primary source of information for their citizen. Everyone needs to be informed and updated on what is happening in their country.

However, there are certain situations where the government may need to withhold information, such as when they are dealing with a problem that only they can solve. Once the issue is resolved, it would be appreciated if they inform the public about it.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Hatchy on December 24, 2023, 11:36:30 PM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
You have a point. In a properly governed country, citizens indeed have the right to take legal action against the government if they attempt to withhold important information. However, it's essential to recognize that citizens don't hold control; the government possesses supreme authority over the nation. They have the ability to decide what information to disclose and what to keep confidential. Despite the citizens' right to sue, the government's overarching power allows them to make choices about transparency.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Cheema02 on December 28, 2023, 06:01:45 AM
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I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
I think an open government is essential to a democratic society. While discretion may be required in some situations providing too little information can damage relationships. Finding a balance is essential to maintaining safety without undermining freedoms and public confidence. This website appears to be an attempt to close this gap by promoting transparency in governance and providing exclusive information.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 03, 2024, 11:16:08 AM
 It is not the responsibility of any government to conceal information from its citizens.First of all, we live in a democratic environment where the people are supposed to participate in governance.

A nation's leadership must occasionally keep certain facts secret in order to prevent unwarranted alarm. People need to realize that the government is concerned about both internal and exterior threats in addition to internal concerns.  The impoverished masses will find it too much to bear when this truth is shared.

When it comes to issues like education, security advice, and the economic situation, the government should be open and honest.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: DrBeer on January 13, 2024, 10:39:15 PM
No matter how much we desire complete transparency of the state structure and state affairs, there will always be some information that is not accessible to the population of the country. This is due to many reasons - from internal nuances, agreements between the government and big business, to foreign policy obligations, alliances, global processes that will be hidden from the average person. The state, power, money - this is not the “cleanest” part of our life... And as practice shows, even the most democratic countries have their “skeletons in the closet”.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Gormicsta on January 14, 2024, 01:43:59 PM
One of the important qualities of good governance is transparency, when a government isn't being transparent to its people or misleading them by lying or withholding valuable informations that concerns them just for their selfish interest, then the intentions of good governance has been defeated
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: EluguHcman on January 15, 2024, 04:34:16 PM
Governance has a structure with the intenses of psychological emphasis in other to manage and conduct the population in a massive one accord.
The government can not reveal every undergone and undergoing processes to the public at when it is not necessary if on a scenero that its awareness by the public would either offer no values to it instead the public as unprofessional bodies termed to be followers would either cause panics and chaos if let known.
Although there are certain sectors of processes in the governances which the public are entitled about to know but yet the governments keeps it all secret within themselves because they know the negative South side reactions of it by the audience.
Because the public had been unable to put a hold countable conducts amongst all, the governments do have that as an avenue to ridicule the people rightful mandates and takes all charges upon within themselves the governing executive bodies.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: goaldot on January 15, 2024, 08:28:17 PM
No, I don't think it is good for government to keep secrets from their people. Any government that keeps away the day to day activities of the country or state from the citizens has ulterior motive. That kind of government has the ability to embezzle fund.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Agbe on January 16, 2024, 08:37:09 PM
That is where accountability and transparency comes to play in fairness government and whereby the government is seriously corrupt and they are embezzling the public founds then they do things secretly. In the normal note responsible government should not hide anything thing from the public and that make him outstanding leader and transparency leader.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: $crypto$ on January 17, 2024, 12:15:13 PM
I think it depends on what is being discussed here, if it concerns national defense I think it is legitimate if it becomes a state secret that only certain people can know. Because if this can be known by its citizens it will also be at risk for the defense of a country.

In other matters such as the budget for a program, it must be clearly visible to the public. Where the funds are disbursed, what they are used for, must be clear because this will anticipate the dirty actions of state officials, such as corruption. In this case the public must really know for sure and the government must be very transparent in providing this information.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Bodhi2021 on January 20, 2024, 05:15:44 PM
No, it is not right for the government should keep secret away from is people and should always share useful information to them all, because this can safe life and properties and will create a means of understanding between the people and the government for the betterment of the society, also by sharing useful information to them it gives rooms to creat harmony, love and tranquility so when the people see something they will always say something because of the good relationship he creates with the people.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Sim_card on January 22, 2024, 10:34:10 PM
It all boils down to the kind of information. If it is about the welfare of the country, then the government needs to be transparent on this aspect, so that the citizens will know that the government is not hiding anything from them. This will bring their trust and confidence on the government. On the other hand, if it is information that will cause panic to the citizens and can lead to loss of lives, then it should be kept secret, as long as the government can handle the situation. For example, if there is a disease outbreak that have killed a lot of people, the number of dead people shouldn't be disclosed, but a sound prevention measure awareness should be generally given to the public.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Gormicsta on January 31, 2024, 02:39:59 PM
Well for me, I don't think so but it depends on the government to keep secrets from us or not, they have power they decide how to rule us and do whatever pleases them, they do.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: retreat on January 31, 2024, 02:51:25 PM
Maybe some people will argue that the government should be transparent with its citizens, especially on matters relating to country security, because by knowing these secrets citizens can be on guard if at any time the country is threatened by war or other matters related to their security. But there are also people who argue that countries must keep their secrets even from their citizens, and that includes sensitive intelligence gathering methods, military strategies, or diplomatic negotiations, all of which are necessary to secure the country and prevent parties who want to destroy the country.
I personally prefer that the government should keep their secrets and not let citizens know about this, because it is related to the security of the country and ensuring that no party misuses this to destroy the country from within or from outside.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 16, 2024, 04:38:35 PM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
The reason why we have the office of the minister of information, is because true that office every activity of the government must be made none through that true the ministry of information and communication.
Should government be allowed to keep secret from their citizen? The answer is no because of the ministry of information and communication every activities of the government is supposed to be made open to their citizens.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 17, 2024, 10:35:09 AM
It all boils down to the kind of information. If it is about the welfare of the country, then the government needs to be transparent on this aspect, so that the citizens will know that the government is not hiding anything from them. This will bring their trust and confidence on the government. On the other hand, if it is information that will cause panic to the citizens and can lead to loss of lives, then it should be kept secret, as long as the government can handle the situation. For example, if there is a disease outbreak that have killed a lot of people, the number of dead people shouldn't be disclosed, but a sound prevention measure awareness should be generally given to the public.
Exactly. There things that governments must be transparent like where taxes go it is because it involves the money of the people within the country. Health, disaster and our safety also needs to be transparent as it give citizens awareness of possibilities that might occur in the country. But the only problem here is that corrupt politicians will always find a loophole in the system just to make it advantageuos to them.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: electronicash on March 23, 2024, 07:58:29 PM
It all boils down to the kind of information. If it is about the welfare of the country, then the government needs to be transparent on this aspect, so that the citizens will know that the government is not hiding anything from them. This will bring their trust and confidence on the government. On the other hand, if it is information that will cause panic to the citizens and can lead to loss of lives, then it should be kept secret, as long as the government can handle the situation. For example, if there is a disease outbreak that have killed a lot of people, the number of dead people shouldn't be disclosed, but a sound prevention measure awareness should be generally given to the public.
Exactly. There things that governments must be transparent like where taxes go it is because it involves the money of the people within the country. Health, disaster and our safety also needs to be transparent as it give citizens awareness of possibilities that might occur in the country. But the only problem here is that corrupt politicians will always find a loophole in the system just to make it advantageuos to them.

the vaccine i guess is just for making money thru the pharmas but the covid, the government knew about the covid. there are several theories about it. when we hear it comes from China lab yet the lab was funded by US companies then, this is really a fuckedup world.

but still i can understand why government will keep secrets especially when they don't want people to panic. but if they are keeping secrets while they are killing us all, that's something else.

the wars that is happening these days and some bombing and shooting, the theories really need to be looked at.

Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: EluguHcman on March 25, 2024, 12:48:17 AM
There are confidential informations that is only layed within an executive bodies in a government or organization, those can be working instruments to achieve or implement some laws or adopting to developments in accordance to the public well being but if it is made publicly known, the situation on ground might be sabotage and cripples the system.

About security, government would always bring the society and its public about security firms in as much it is their duty to have the public security welfares as part of their leadership obligations.
Although there are crisis in the societies being structured and sponsored by the same leaders in the position of the people's welfares but they would not make such known because it is of their own interests.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 25, 2024, 03:46:17 PM
It all boils down to the kind of information. If it is about the welfare of the country, then the government needs to be transparent on this aspect, so that the citizens will know that the government is not hiding anything from them. This will bring their trust and confidence on the government. On the other hand, if it is information that will cause panic to the citizens and can lead to loss of lives, then it should be kept secret, as long as the government can handle the situation. For example, if there is a disease outbreak that have killed a lot of people, the number of dead people shouldn't be disclosed, but a sound prevention measure awareness should be generally given to the public.
Exactly. There things that governments must be transparent like where taxes go it is because it involves the money of the people within the country. Health, disaster and our safety also needs to be transparent as it give citizens awareness of possibilities that might occur in the country. But the only problem here is that corrupt politicians will always find a loophole in the system just to make it advantageuos to them.

the vaccine i guess is just for making money thru the pharmas but the covid, the government knew about the covid. there are several theories about it. when we hear it comes from China lab yet the lab was funded by US companies then, this is really a fuckedup world.

but still i can understand why government will keep secrets especially when they don't want people to panic. but if they are keeping secrets while they are killing us all, that's something else.

the wars that is happening these days and some bombing and shooting, the theories really need to be looked at.
Yeah their hidden agendas keeps on making people suffer war is one of the examples of successful business some people aren't aware of. Yeah whether they don't want us to panic, national security reasons or they do have personal interests I think that are the possible reasons why they are keeping secrets
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 25, 2024, 10:39:57 PM
In a democratic state, the government is for the people so they don't keep secret that will endanger the citizens of the country...
I don't know for other part of the world that practice other systems of government if they do keep such secret that will endanger the citizens from them.
But in my own opinion I will say that the government should always work together hand in hand with their citizens to enhance growth and development.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 26, 2024, 05:03:38 AM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
This is why they are called PUBLIC OFFICIALS meaning everything must be transparent so if they are keeping secrets to their people then we must change the name into PRIVATE OFFICIALS so they can do everything in their power without  people knowing anything but as long as they are serving public then this must not be allow not even by the court if they are be found guilty.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 26, 2024, 06:51:37 PM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
This is why they are called PUBLIC OFFICIALS meaning everything must be transparent so if they are keeping secrets to their people then we must change the name into PRIVATE OFFICIALS so they can do everything in their power without  people knowing anything but as long as they are serving public then this must not be allow not even by the court if they are be found guilty.
Good point! And those corrupt can be called private officials if we can unfortunately these kind of people are possesive so don't bother calling them that way or else we're done. Kidding aside. 😅 Personal interest is what makes things become some sort of a secret and they don't want us to know their true colors while being designated in a certain government position. Money and power is for me the most common factor why they have secrets even if it is against transparency.
Title: Re: Should governments be allowed to keep secrets from their people?
Post by: DragonF on March 29, 2024, 04:00:54 PM
I personally believe that those in power should not be allowed to keep secrets from the public, especially when it is related to the safety and privacy of the people. It is by keeping such knowledge a secret that these people can remain in power. By keeping the public keeping the people in the depths of ignorance, powerful governments and people can rob them of their liberties and do as they desire. It is true that a small fraction of things should be kept from the public, but the current state of affairs show that the reverse is true in our day and age. (And to show how vehemently I adhere to what I say have even established a website(intelrepository(dotcom)) where I publish and even sell exclusive information not meant be seen by everyone.

I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this as well.
This is why they are called PUBLIC OFFICIALS meaning everything must be transparent so if they are keeping secrets to their people then we must change the name into PRIVATE OFFICIALS so they can do everything in their power without  people knowing anything but as long as they are serving public then this must not be allow not even by the court if they are be found guilty.

We shouldn't misunderstand things. The fact that you are a public official doesn't mean you expose every information. You are only there to serve the people and share information to them when it is necessary. For instance, during the covid 19 era, government through some agencies gave information on how to stay protected and also data of people contaminated and number of death caused by the covid.

Thus, government can only dish out vital information to protect citizens' lives and hold back some information. Sometimes, the reason is not selfish in nature but to ensure that there is peace in the country. Sincerely speaking, if citizens are exposed to every information, tranquility might not be guaranteed in our country.

Whether we like it or not, no government can be so transparent to reveal everything to citizens intoto. Some information are referred to as "classified" or "secret" information. This means that not all eyes or ears should come in contact with the information.

On second thought, even the military are public servants/officials, does it mean they should disclose to citizens the functioning of the military? The military will only pass information to citizens when it's necessary and is of interest to citizens especially when such information can enhance citizen's safety.