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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Forum Announcements => Topic started by: admin on December 14, 2019, 01:50:21 PM
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
no wonder why a lot of forums decide to close.
I am trying my best to fight spam, and of course your help would be greatly appreciated.
so far i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
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10,000 sounds a lot for a two year forum but if they are bots, that's probably a normal figure. They cannot be eliminated all at once and many more will appear. The steps that has been implemented to restrict new accounts like being unable to post links has been good though.
I would also like to see new accounts unable to create new topics until they earned a minimum level of activity. They will have to comment on topics and earn the privilege of posting their own topics.
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10,000 sounds a lot for a two year forum but if they are bots, that's probably a normal figure. They cannot be eliminated all at once and many more will appear. The steps that has been implemented to restrict new accounts like being unable to post links has been good though.
I would also like to see new accounts unable to create new topics until they earned a minimum level of activity. They will have to comment on topics and earn the privilege of posting their own topics.
It is easier to see spam topic and to report it than to search in all possible topics, so I disagree, sorry.
Main idea to fight with bots is to make an own unique antibot registration, not similar with the popular ones. It will not work against personal interest, but it works good if we talk about automated software like XRumer. I can't give my idea, because it could stop working, but I have very few spam after implementing my own decision. So it should be unique and noone should know what is this idea.
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
no wonder why a lot of forums decide to close.
I am trying my best to fight spam, and of course your help would be greatly appreciated.
so far i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
Well done sir, every now and all time spamming and fake bots account are created in the forums. Hence our full environment in forum hamper. Admin already banned 10k over accounts to remove spamming. Really it is a useful step to prevent scam and spam.
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10,000 sounds a lot for a two year forum but if they are bots, that's probably a normal figure. They cannot be eliminated all at once and many more will appear. The steps that has been implemented to restrict new accounts like being unable to post links has been good though.
I would also like to see new accounts unable to create new topics until they earned a minimum level of activity. They will have to comment on topics and earn the privilege of posting their own topics.
It is easier to see spam topic and to report it than to search in all possible topics, so I disagree, sorry.
Main idea to fight with bots is to make an own unique antibot registration, not similar with the popular ones. It will not work against personal interest, but it works good if we talk about automated software like XRumer. I can't give my idea, because it could stop working, but I have very few spam after implementing my own decision. So it should be unique and noone should know what is this idea.
well yes, xrummer is a problem
sometimes the bots don't even post and stay dormant , it's a nightmare
i usually approach it by daily checking 20-40 minutes all the new signups, and if i feel something is suspicious i do some digging up
and ban,
usually spammers spam multiple forums that if you detect them here they might be elsewhere as well
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well yes, xrummer is a problem
sometimes the bots don't even post and stay dormant , it's a nightmare
i usually approach it by daily checking 20-40 minutes all the new signups, and if i feel something is suspicious i do some digging up
and ban,
usually spammers spam multiple forums that if you detect them here they might be elsewhere as well
Do you use Stop Forum Spam database plugins? It could help to prevent some number of spam registrations. I used this option on one forum several years ago and the stream of spammers has decreased. Not ideal option, but could help.
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
But I think the biggest problem is the low number of active users.
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
Spam is unremovable, but we can lessen the numbers. Even in bitcoin_talk forum, spam is still always there till now.
i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
Good job, sir. This must be a regular work for every forum admin or staffs, right? :)
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
But I think the biggest problem is the low number of active users.
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
Spam is unremovable, but we can lessen the numbers. Even in bitcoin_talk forum, spam is still always there till now.
i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
Good job, sir. This must be a regular work for every forum admin or staffs, right? :)
everything needs dedication
lately users dropping too, so i need to dedicate some time for that as well ;)
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Spam is unremovable, but we can lessen the numbers. Even in bitcoin_talk forum, spam is still always there till now.
Yes, but automated registrations should be prevented automatically also, because fighting against bots could take too much time if not to do so. Moderating is good against human spamming, not bot spamming. One of the forum I administrated had hundreds of bot registration a day when bots found a way of circumventing of the protection. It is impossible to fight all that just with that by hands. :o
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Mate, please no spam here!!
About your problem, you must create your own thread and explain it there!!
everything needs dedication
lately users dropping too, so i need to dedicate some time for that as well ;)
Yes, no success without dedication.
The number of new users and active users are decreasing both. Surely, you need to take attention to them, sir. Bounty issue and current new projects may influence it.
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Yes, but automated registrations should be prevented automatically also, because fighting against bots could take too much time if not to do so.
Of course, bots attack cannot be handled by a single person and it needs a certain solution. I think admin doesn't work alone. There must be a team to handle a big forum like this.
Moderating is good against human spamming, not bot spamming.
Yes. Quite true. However, human spamming cannot be fixed by admin only. He needs staff or a special team to prevent and handle the spamming cases.
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How about adding moderator that are allowed to do checking of reports and making actions? How many moderator do we have here to monitor every sections? I think this forum have a lot of section and only noticed few moderators.
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How about adding moderator that are allowed to do checking of reports and making actions? How many moderator do we have here to monitor every sections? I think this forum have a lot of section and only noticed few moderators.
Admin has posted this topic already A call for Moderators (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=230.0). You believe there's shortage in mods? Apply.
The problem with spam also comes from the community's lack of initiative to help clean up the forum. How many are actually using the "Report to moderator" button?
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How about adding moderator that are allowed to do checking of reports and making actions? How many moderator do we have here to monitor every sections? I think this forum have a lot of section and only noticed few moderators.
Admin has posted this topic already A call for Moderators (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=230.0). You believe there's shortage in mods? Apply.
The problem with spam also comes from the community's lack of initiative to help clean up the forum. How many are actually using the "Report to moderator" button?
That's true and I agree that mostly here dont use that button for spammers. The spamming activity is inevitable for those who joined signature campaign and even their topic response is becoming useless still posting just to fit the requirement.
Anyway, I'll be happy to apply on some time in the future. For now, I'll just stick around to do simple reporting.
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@admin
I can join as a moderator to serve better for spammers. I can help you a little amount in the forums so this can be along term from me unlike some moderators who just sleep.
I still can report if I see any spammer here.
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I'm still seeing a lot of these accounts selling fake passport #moderation s, weed, and some deepweb website/platform. Any of the remaining active members here should really help out reporting those posts and mods should instantly ban those accounts (not just delete post). For sure, new accounts will be created to spam again but let's just keep on reporting them.
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There are many accounts who just recommend a site, sometimes even in succession. They’re obviously a scam, but is there no way to ensure they can’t make other accounts?
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everything seems fine
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
no wonder why a lot of forums decide to close.
I am trying my best to fight spam, and of course your help would be greatly appreciated.
so far i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
That's really a lot, this is the first time I heard where you banned more than 10k members here in the forum.
How did you do that anyway? did you use the bot? Because as far as I know, it will be hard for you to do it manually, isn't it right? Anyway, it means you work with dedication, and determination, thanks for this one reminders to us here.
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Here are not enough active users, so it attracts a lot of spammers
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the biggest problems in forums is the amount of spam
i have been involved in forums for more than 10 years, and this problem never disappear,
no wonder why a lot of forums decide to close.
I am trying my best to fight spam, and of course your help would be greatly appreciated.
so far i have deleted or banned more than 10 000 members, whom are spam bots or spam accounts
Do you work alone to fight the spam?
Idk how it started but I wondered about the selection of the moderators based on polling or something else? e.g the moderators on my local board, of the three not so active in this forum (maybe they were also more active in other forums), even the last time they were active a week ago. The role of the moderator is needed to fight spam so that this forum attracts more productive/constructive users. For me, the reduction in the number of users but their quality is better than the number of users increasing but just sh*t everywhere.
If you are thinking about re-electing moderators, at least you have more adequate conditions than before and the involvement of all members of this forum in the election is recommended to get good results too. The reasons for their eligibility to be moderators also need to be asked.
*Not that I wanna run as a moderator candidate, I'm in no way qualified in activeness
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Do you work alone to fight the spam?
Idk how it started but I wondered about the selection of the moderators based on polling or something else? e.g the moderators on my local board, of the three not so active in this forum (maybe they were also more active in other forums), even the last time they were active a week ago. The role of the moderator is needed to fight spam so that this forum attracts more productive/constructive users. For me, the reduction in the number of users but their quality is better than the number of users increasing but just sh*t everywhere.
If you are thinking about re-electing moderators, at least you have more adequate conditions than before and the involvement of all members of this forum in the election is recommended to get good results too. The reasons for their eligibility to be moderators also need to be asked.
*Not that I wanna run as a moderator candidate, I'm in no way qualified in activeness
Hello, thank you for your response. There is a plan to demote some of the old moderators and of course to promote some users as mods or jr. mods. This will be done in the near future.
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Do you work alone to fight the spam?
Idk how it started but I wondered about the selection of the moderators based on polling or something else? e.g the moderators on my local board, of the three not so active in this forum (maybe they were also more active in other forums), even the last time they were active a week ago. The role of the moderator is needed to fight spam so that this forum attracts more productive/constructive users. For me, the reduction in the number of users but their quality is better than the number of users increasing but just sh*t everywhere.
If you are thinking about re-electing moderators, at least you have more adequate conditions than before and the involvement of all members of this forum in the election is recommended to get good results too. The reasons for their eligibility to be moderators also need to be asked.
*Not that I wanna run as a moderator candidate, I'm in no way qualified in activeness
Hello, thank you for your response. There is a plan to demote some of the old moderators and of course to promote some users as mods or jr. mods. This will be done in the near future.
that would probably help
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One of the biggest problems in forums is that people cheat and try to run multiple accounts.
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One of the biggest problems in forums is that people cheat and try to run multiple accounts.
If they would read the forum rules, they'll find out, that the result of such behaviour could lead to marking of all of their accounts as doubles and impossibility of wearing signatures, avatars, changing personal info, etc. So better they'd not run multiple accounts, for their good. ;)
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I Also Thuy this is the main reason behind close of any forum , you are doing a great work . Spammers and auto posting bots should be kicked out from this forum .