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No option to self moderate threads here?
« on: April 15, 2024, 09:59:09 PM »
Hi ladies and gentlemen..

The question is pretty straight forward, I actually have create a good number of threads on this forum in general, never had any intention of self moderating any of my threads, but then, I noticed that I've also never come across any thread that is self moderated by the op of that thread, so I felt like asking here.

Is there a reason why such ability or feature was not added to this forum? Or is the toggle for ability to do this hiding someone in our individual account setting?
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No option to self moderate threads here?
« on: April 15, 2024, 09:59:09 PM »

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2024, 10:34:41 PM »
There's none. If you want access to delete your post it can be gotten from the shop section and why self moderation wasn't introduced into the forum. It can be seen here from the admins message around 2018
self moderated topics are not good, because they silence any critics,
however, for the right price, we sell our soul to the devil,
patrons and royalty have the possibility to delete replies to own posts, thus effectively having self moderated topics.
however to avoid abuse, nothing is really deleted, it goes to recycle bin, thus if caught really abusing the patrons can be stripped of rank.

definition of abusing : mass deleting replies or deleting bounty/ airdrop submissions.

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2024, 12:45:23 AM »
If you think about it deeply, you will understand that self moderation does not silent critics as admin suggested. Rather it reduces spam. If anyone's post is deleted by a self moderator and he feels that he is being silenced, he can simply go create a new thread for that respect. So, if you don't want to be moderated by anyone apart from admin, you should avoid posting in self moderated threads.
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2024, 11:21:55 AM »
Rather it reduces spam.

Report to moderator button is under every post. If there is spam you can just inform moderators about that and this will reduce it. I have statistics not about all sections, but all where I see have no unprocessed reports. It takes maximum several hours to process mostly all reports. ???
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2024, 12:18:07 PM »
There is a possibility to create self-moderated posts, but they are for a paid account.


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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2024, 12:13:47 PM »
Rather it reduces spam.

Report to moderator button is under every post. If there is spam you can just inform moderators about that and this will reduce it. I have statistics not about all sections, but all where I see have no unprocessed reports. It takes maximum several hours to process mostly all reports. ???
That's nice. Maybe the traffic here is not yet tedious for moderators to handle. It will get to a time that the admin will want the community to do most of the moderation themselves and allowing a self moderation thread is one of the ways to achieve that.

There is a possibility to create self-moderated posts, but they are for a paid account.


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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2024, 12:34:43 PM »
Have seen abused about self moderated threads from the other forum though this is also very helpful to keep a thread from spamming but the problem is that even scammers can use this features to silence those who will criticize or give their proofs of their bad dealings.

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2024, 03:51:42 PM »
Have seen abused about self moderated threads from the other forum though this is also very helpful to keep a thread from spamming but the problem is that even scammers can use this features to silence those who will criticize or give their proofs of their bad dealings.
I think that's easy to solve, anyone who posts the proof of the scam can easily screenshot it and make a thread if their post got deleted. But I don't think it is necessary since there is a recycle bin feature on this forum if I read it correctly.

It will get to a time that the admin will want the community to do most of the moderation themselves and allowing a self moderation thread is one of the ways to achieve that.
If the traffic gets really big, I'd rather have more moderators instead of encouraging members to manage threads on their own. Unless we can make sure that most of them understand forum rules, there is a high chance they will abuse it even if it was unintentional.

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2024, 09:25:41 PM »
We talked about this before, so try to search forum topics before creating new one:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315233

Admin won't allow self-moderated topics, but I think there is an option to burn alt tokens and enable option to delete posts.
Some members would probably like to have option to burn tokens for self-moderation enabled.
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2024, 09:36:04 PM »
There's none. If you want access to delete your post it can be gotten from the shop section and why self moderation wasn't introduced into the forum. It can be seen here from the admins message around 2018
self moderated topics are not good, because they silence any critics,
however, for the right price, we sell our soul to the devil,
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That's why I love the admin, haha, its not that I hate self-moderation, it's just the facts that Admin has stated are so generic and I have witnessed them. Fore example, on BTT there was a post that was self-moderated, and it was in the economic section so you can assume the context of the post. I made a good and heavy reply which was long enough, and when I posted it after some time I got a notification that my reply had been deleted I got furious and then gave up on replying again.

That's why I think self-moderation should not be allowed on this forum, because only mods and admins should have the privilege of deleting posts of others, this way we will totally get the freedom of speech. Even if I will say something that will expose the support party of OP, my message will not be deleted as its not self moderated.
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2024, 11:48:30 PM »
We talked about this before, so try to search forum topics before creating new one:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315233

Admin won't allow self-moderated topics, but I think there is an option to burn alt tokens and enable option to delete posts.
Some members would probably like to have option to burn tokens for self-moderation enabled.
Yes, this is due to possible abuse of the points earned per post. Maybe there's a situation regarding this in the past or the admin simply found this loophole that might be a future problem which he resolved as quickly as he could.

The option of deleting replies on your topic is too expensive, I think some will prefer to purchase a special rank than this. Especially if it is someone who always creates a thread.

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2024, 09:56:07 AM »
Have seen abused about self moderated threads from the other forum though this is also very helpful to keep a thread from spamming but the problem is that even scammers can use this features to silence those who will criticize or give their proofs of their bad dealings.
I think that's easy to solve, anyone who posts the proof of the scam can easily screenshot it and make a thread if their post got deleted. But I don't think it is necessary since there is a recycle bin feature on this forum if I read it correctly.

really there is a recycle bin in this forum ? this means post deletion is also not necessary here because we cannot completely hide anything from this forum lol.
but self moderated thread is also something that the forum may not be concern of because of this recycle bin feature .

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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2024, 11:20:33 AM »

The option of deleting replies on your topic is too expensive, I think some will prefer to purchase a special rank than this. Especially if it is someone who always creates a thread.
I'm just wondering if the option is to delete topics or to create a self-moderated topic. Meaning, if it is possible to just delete topics without creating a moderated topic (a big warning sign), then this option would likely be ideal for scammers who might want to delete negative comments without anyone noticing.
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2024, 12:14:02 AM »
If you think about it deeply, you will understand that self moderation does not silent critics as admin suggested. Rather it reduces spam. If anyone's post is deleted by a self moderator and he feels that he is being silenced, he can simply go create a new thread for that respect. So, if you don't want to be moderated by anyone apart from admin, you should avoid posting in self moderated threads.
You are completely right, but again, I think it's a two way thing though, like something having it's advantage and disadvantage, or to be more appropriate, we could say "a pro" and "a con".

Like the admin said, some scammers, bad eggs in the community could as well leverage on their liberty to self moderate their own thread, and use it for scam, dubious activities, deleting any sort of comments that tries to warn others users coming into such thread for the first time - this is very possible and I believe that what the admin meant is very understandable.

But again on the other hand, you are right too, a user who created an important thread which requires only important comments might as well want to self moderate the thread to make sure every comment coming in are up to standard, and this is possibly because, we all know that using the report button does imply that a spam comment will be deleted immediately, sometimes, it takes days before the mods take action on a reported spam post, in the area, we discover the ability to create a self moderated thread is still as important.

But then, and unfortunately, many of the nice features are for sale here.
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Re: No option to self moderate threads here?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2024, 06:21:59 AM »
sometimes, it takes days before the mods take action on a reported spam post

If there is an obvious example of a spam post, it is impossible for the report to be processed only after a few days. There can be reports that are not clear for different reasons and are awaiting for a moderator to make a deeper research before acting, but obvious cases are processed in hours maximum. ???
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