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Title: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Cordillerabit on December 29, 2020, 06:17:53 AM
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The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has not been kind to crypto in the past year. In March 2020, in the SEC v. Telegram case, the Commission won a worldwide injunction against the proposed issuance of Grams by Telegram, undoing years of innovative work even in the absence of any allegations of fraud. Then, on the last day of September 2020, Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein dashed the hopes of Kik Interactive by ruling in favor of the SEC’s motion for summary judgment in SEC v. Kik Interactive, finding that Kik had sold securities when it issued its Kin crypto tokens. Both of these actions were filed in the Southern District of New York. On Dec. 22, 2020, the SEC decided that it was time to initiate another high-profile action, filing in the same district against Ripple Labs and its initial and current CEOs, Christian Larsen and Bradly Garlinghouse, respectively, for raising more than $1.38 billion through the sale of XRP since 2013.

The initial fallout from this action has been swift and severe: 24 hours after the lawsuit was filed, the price of XRP was down almost 25%. This still left XRP ranked fourth on CoinMarketCap, with a total market capitalization of over $10.5 billion.

The complaint
In its complaint, the Commission paints a straightforward pattern of sales of XRP that were never registered with the SEC or made pursuant to any exemption from registration. From the perspective of the Commission, this amounts to a sustained practice of illegal sales of unregistered, non-exempt securities under Section 5 of the Securities Act of 1933.

For readers not familiar with legal procedure, it might seem unusual for the case to be brought in a New York federal court, especially since Ripple is headquartered in California, and both named individuals reside there. However, Ripple has an office in the Southern District of that state, some statements were made by Garlinghouse while he was present in New York, and significant sales of XRP were made to New York residents. In legal parlance, this would make venues in the Southern District of New York appropriate.

In addition, it might be surprising to some that both Larsen and Garlinghouse were named personally in an action that seeks primarily to recover for XRP allegedly sold illegally by Ripple, through its wholly-owned subsidiary, XRP II LLC. They are named both because they individually also sold significant volumes of XRP — 1.7 billion by Larsen and 321 million by Garlinghouse — and because the SEC contends they “aided and abetted” Ripple in its sales.

Aiding and abetting is a cause of action that depends on a primary violation by a third party, in which the aider and abettor voluntarily and knowingly participates with the goal of assisting in the venture’s success. In this case, Ripple would be the primary violator, and both Larsen and Garlinghouse are alleged to have substantially participated in the pattern of Ripple’s XRP sales, with the goal of allowing the company to raise funds without registering XRP under the federal securities laws or complying with any available exemption from registration.

The bulk of the complaint provides an overview of digital assets, details the SEC’s version of the history of Ripple and its marketing efforts with regard to XRP, illustrates how in the opinion of the Commission, XRP satisfies the elements of the Howey investment contract test under the federal securities laws, and seeks to demonstrate how Larsen and Garlinghouse participated in the on-going sales efforts.

In addition to disgorgement of all “ill-gotten gains,” the requested order would permanently ban the named defendants from ever selling unregistered XRP or participating in any way in the sale of unregistered, non-exempt securities. It would also prohibit them from participating in the offering of any digital asset securities, and it seeks unspecified civil monetary penalties.

A brief history of Ripple and XRP
The idea behind the current XRP dates back to late 2011 or early 2012, before the company changed its name to Ripple. The XRP Ledger, or software code, operates as a peer-to-peer database, spread across a network of computers that records data about transactions, among other things. In order to achieve consensus, each server on the network evaluates proposed transactions from a subset of nodes it trusts not to defraud it. Those trusted nodes are known as the server’s unique node list, or UNL. Although each server defines its own trusted nodes, the XRP Ledger requires a high degree of overlap between the trusted nodes chosen by each server. To facilitate this overlap, Ripple publishes a proposed UNL.

Upon the completion of the XRP Ledger in December 2012, and as its code was being deployed to the servers that would run it, a fixed supply of 100 billion XRP was set and created at little cost. Of those XRP, 80 billion were transferred to Ripple and the remaining 20 billion XRP went to a group of founders, including Larsen. At this point in time, Ripple and its founders controlled 100% of XRP.

Note that these choices represent a compromise between the fully decentralized, peer-to-peer network that was envisioned when Bitcoin (BTC) was first announced and a fully centralized network with a single trusted intermediary such as a conventional financial institution. In addition, Bitcoin was never designed or intended to be held or controlled by a single entity. In contrast, all XRP was originally issued to the company that created it and that company’s founders. This hybrid approach to a blockchain-based digital asset and more conventional assets created and controlled by a single entity led some crypto enthusiasts to complain that XRP was not a “true” cryptocurrency at all.

According to the SEC’s complaint, from 2013 through 2014, Ripple and Larsen made efforts to create a market for XRP by having Ripple distribute approximately 12.5 billion XRP through bounty programs that paid programmers compensation for reporting problems in the XRP Ledger’s code. As part of these calculated steps, Ripple distributed small amounts of XRP — typically between 100 and 1,000 XRP per transaction — to anonymous developers and others to establish a trading market for XRP.

Ripple then began more systematic efforts to increase speculative demand and trading volume for XRP. Starting in at least 2015, Ripple decided that it would seek to make XRP a “universal [digital] asset” for banks and other financial institutions to effect money transfers. According to the SEC, this meant that Ripple needed to create an active, liquid XRP secondary trading market. It, therefore, expanded its efforts to develop a use for XRP while increasing sales of XRP into the market.

At about this time, Ripple Labs, and its subsidiary, XRP II LLC, came under investigation by the U.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, or FinCEN, acting pursuant to its mandates in the Bank Secrecy Act, or BSA. Acting in conjunction with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California, the two companies were charged with failing to comply with various BSA requirements, including failure to register with FinCEN and failure to implement and maintain proper Anti-Money Laundering and Know Your Customer protocols. According to FinCEN, Ripple’s failure to comply with these FinCEN requirements was facilitating the use of XRP by money launderers and terrorists.

This action did not proceed to trial, with Ripple Labs settling the charges by agreeing to pay a $700,000 fine and further agreeing to take immediate remedial steps to bring the companies into compliance with BSA requirements. The settlement was announced by FinCEN on May 5, 2015. The major contention of FinCEN throughout its investigation was that XRP was a digital currency. Ripple acceded to this position and has since worked to comply with BSA requirements.

At the same time, as noted in the SEC’s complaint, from 2014 through the third quarter of 2020, the company sold at least 8.8 billion XRP in the market and institutional sales, raising approximately $1.38 billion to fund its operations. In addition, the complaint asserts that from 2015 through at least March 2020, while Larsen was an affiliate of Ripple as its CEO and later chairman of the board, Larsen and his wife sold over 1.7 billion XRP to public investors in the market. Larsen and his wife netted at least $450 million from those sales. From April 2017 through December 2019, while an affiliate of Ripple as CEO, Garlinghouse sold over 321 million XRP he had received from Ripple to public investors in the market, generating approximately $150 million from those sales.

XRP is not like Bitcoin or Ether
The preceding description paints a picture of a digital asset that is widely held by persons scattered around the globe. In the case of both Bitcoin and Ether (ETH), this kind of decentralization was apparently enough to convince the SEC that those two digital assets should not be regulated as securities. As Director Bill Hinman of the SEC’s Division of Corporation Finance explained in June of 2018:

“If the network on which the token or coin is to function is sufficiently decentralized — where purchasers would no longer reasonably expect a person or group to carry out essential managerial or entrepreneurial efforts — the assets may not represent an investment contract. Moreover, when the efforts of the third party are no longer a key factor for determining the enterprise’s success, material information asymmetries recede. As a network becomes truly decentralized, the ability to identify an issuer or promoter to make the requisite disclosures becomes difficult, and less meaningful. […] The network on which Bitcoin functions is operational and appears to have been decentralized for some time, perhaps from inception. Applying the disclosure regime of the federal securities laws to the offer and resale of Bitcoin would seem to add little value.”
This kind of analysis does not really work for XRP, most of which continues to be owned by the company that created it, where the company continues to have significant influence over which nodes will serve as trusted validators for transactions, and where the company continues to play a significant role in the profitability and viability of the asset. Part of that role will now, of course, involve responding to this latest SEC initiative.

The court’s probable reaction
Unfortunately for Ripple and its former and current CEOs, the SEC has a strong case that XRP fits within the Howey investment contract test. Derived from the 1946 Supreme Court decision in SEC v. W. J. Howey, this test holds that you have bought a security if you: (1) make an investment (2) of money or something else of value, (3) in a common enterprise, (4) with the expectation of profits, (5) from the essential managerial efforts of others. Most of the purchasers of XRP, or certainly a very large number of them, would appear to fit within each of these categories.

Ripple raised more than $1.38 billion from the sale of XRP, so it is abundantly clear that purchasers were paying something of value. Moreover, as there was no effort to limit purchasers to the amount of XRP that they might reasonably “use” for anything other than investment purposes, that element appears likely to be present as well. The fact that the fortunes of all the investors rise and fall together along with the value of XRP in the marketplace should satisfy the commonality requirement.

The complaint highlights a number of things that Ripple has done to promote profitability, including statements that it has made, all of which suggest that a reason for purchasing XRP is the potential for appreciation. The limited functionality of XRP in comparison to its trading supply is another reason to believe that most purchasers were buying for investment, seeking to make a profit.

Finally, the significant on-going involvement and role of the company, especially given its huge continuing ownership interest in XRP, means that there is a strong case to be made that the profitability of XRP is highly dependent on the efforts of Ripple. All of this points to the reality that, under the Howey Test, XRP is likely to be a security.

Ripple’s response to the SEC’s action
Ripple’s response to the SEC’s enforcement action came even before the SEC’s complaint was officially filed. On Dec. 21, Garlinghouse tweeted out a condemnation of the SEC’s planned action, criticizing the agency for picking favorites and trying to “limit US innovation in the crypto industry to BTC and ETH.” Soon after, Ripple’s general counsel, Stuart Alderoty, gave a strong indication of how the company was likely to respond in the pending matter by pointing out the 2015 FinCEN issue, which he claimed was a government determination that XRP was a digital currency rather than a security under the Howey Test.

Unfortunately, classification as a digital currency does not necessarily preclude regulation as a security. As another New York district court decided in the 2018 case of CFTC v. McDonnell, in the context of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s authority to regulate digital assets, “Federal agencies may have concurrent or overlapping jurisdiction over a particular issue or area.”

Thus, even though FinCEN regulates crypto as a digital asset, the CFTC may treat it as a commodity; the SEC may regulate it as a security; and the Internal Revenue Service may tax it as property. All at the same time.

Conclusion
This comment should not be taken as approval of the SEC’s current approach and relative hostility to crypto offerings. As the SEC’s complaint notes, the XRP sales that are now being questioned took place over many years. The initial sales date back to 2013, which had happened considerably before the SEC first publicly announced its position that digital assets should be regulated as securities if they fit within the Howey investment contract analysis, which did not come until 2017 with The DAO Report. Moreover, since 2015, Ripple has been proceeding in accordance with the settlement reached with FinCEN. Since that time, Ripple has worked to bring its operations into compliance with BSA requirements, operating as if XRP is a currency rather than a security.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-vs-ripple-a-predictable-but-undesirable-development
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: syedrasool2011 on December 30, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Press on Ripple with the SEC to hammer out an XRP to US digital currency regulatory policy. This is long overdue, otherwise China and the rest of the world will take over the global digital currency market space good news will come wait for it.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Shahinaz on December 30, 2020, 04:28:25 PM
pressure after pressure for XRP is getting more intense, closing transactions in several markets has made XRP plunge freely at the lowest prices, still hoping that XRP can rise and there is a settlement in the future
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: vaysar on December 30, 2020, 05:52:05 PM
The SEC allegations have affected a huge number of innocent XRP holders unrelated to the startup. People should not be deprived of their invested money and should continue to support Ripple, I hope that the court will positively resolve this issue.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Bitstar_coin on December 30, 2020, 07:45:02 PM
In all of this sec shenanigans, it is the investors that will be at the receiving end, who will care about those who have invested and bought xrp whe the price was high! Nobody right, because the risk which involved in investment is solely on investors shoulder,
And why are the sec just realising that ripple has carried out an illegal sale! Why not sooner? And to think that this has always been on the top list of cmc as one of the most respected project in crypto space, what a shame.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Alcor on December 31, 2020, 07:58:38 AM
In all of this sec shenanigans, it is the investors that will be at the receiving end, who will care about those who have invested and bought xrp whe the price was high! Nobody right, because the risk which involved in investment is solely on investors shoulder,
And why are the sec just realising that ripple has carried out an illegal sale! Why not sooner? And to think that this has always been on the top list of cmc as one of the most respected project in crypto space, what a shame.
It has always been argued on this and other similar forums that ripple does not in fact belong to a decentralized cryptocurrency due to its rigid centralization and the possibility of manipulation of this coin by the leaders of this project. Now these suspicions have been fully confirmed. Regardless of the outcome of this lawsuit, ripple's image has been severely damaged. In the future, XRP holders themselves will determine how much to trust this project.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: kent47400 on January 08, 2021, 06:57:17 PM
Ripple is indeed a cryptocurrency coin but the Ripple system is centralized.
And to make matters worse, Ripple is trying to get into the bank to cooperate.

Yes, just the same, please!
It is clear that cryptocurrency cannot be regulated because it has a decentralized character.
Ripple enters the bank, so there is an audit from the SEC and it is the SEC that pressures Ripple to be even more transparent about its coins.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: msz900 on January 09, 2021, 02:54:11 PM
The SEC allegations have affected a huge number of innocent XRP holders unrelated to the startup. People should not be deprived of their invested money and should continue to support Ripple, I hope that the court will positively resolve this issue.

Because of the SEC Ripple investors are in a huge stress and the support for the Ripple is going down as many exchanges are delisting it. XRP holders are still waiting for a positive response from the Ripple owner/Team.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: jonathancool220 on January 13, 2021, 06:26:38 PM
XRP holders are still waiting for a positive response from the Ripple owner/Team.
The struggle of the two of them is so fierce that it affects the market so strongly.
Even Ripple has lost its price up to 100% and it hurts a lot.
I am sure and hope that in the future the #DevelopmentTeam  from Ripple will give positive news, because the SEC is a state financial institution that has been legally approved.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: syedrasool2011 on January 16, 2021, 05:00:45 AM
Thats bad news the rest of the world sees XRP as a currency. The US SEC sees it as a Security. The rest of the world will still make XRP very lucrative in the future no matter what the SEC does surrounding this lawsuit.Yes, XRP is quite undervalued crypto and with the most potential in banking sector. I am bullish.Hold your coin will give you big profit in future.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: vaysar on January 17, 2021, 06:44:27 AM
It seems that XRP will no longer be traded on US exchanges, Coinbase and Kraken tried to keep Ripple trading until the court decision but changed their position. Kraken lasted longer than other exchanges XRP will disappear from the US-only market on January 29th.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Proton on January 17, 2021, 03:37:26 PM
It seems that XRP will no longer be traded on US exchanges, Coinbase and Kraken tried to keep Ripple trading until the court decision but changed their position. Kraken lasted longer than other exchanges XRP will disappear from the US-only market on January 29th.
The newly elected US President Biden changes the SEC leadership to a more loyal to cryptocurrency. In addition, the leadership of Ripple Labs earlier announced the start of negotiations with the SEC over the claims of the filed lawsuit. This time, Ripple Labs can get away with paying decent penalties.
Still, we already see XRP in fifth place on the CoinMarketCap chart.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: pealr12 on January 17, 2021, 07:46:00 PM
The prise of xrp keeps falling even when all other alts are up with some %, I guess it is fighting to stay alive but I think even if the lawsuit eventually got withdrawn and they are cleared this incident will still affect them somehow, but I doubt that will happen, perhaps there is a ray of hope for ripple in the coming days wjo knows.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 21, 2021, 08:52:49 PM
And despite this continued XRP fall in the market. I believe the lawsuit can't settled, though it may affect the Ripple project potential but in no distance time Ripple will bounce back. I think that these many SEC lawsuits is very unnecessary for the growth and development digital currency. SEC should give room for cryptocurrecy to develop further for the good of everyone involved, and stop these constant lawsuit on projects that has made huge impacts on the crypto economy.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: syedrasool2011 on January 24, 2021, 05:10:58 PM
Xrp still in danger I motion to sue that grinch, SEC and whoever's mom's that wants to get in the way of all XRP investors for damages, by this frivolous halt by signing up on the Whitehouse petition and Deaton's law firm as I had done both already shortly thereafter.Still waiting for good news hold your coins dont sell it.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Oxumare on February 01, 2021, 01:03:29 PM
Friends, will XRP be able to rise above $ 0.70? From the $ 0.26 level, XRP gained more than 100%. The official response to the SEC is said to be positive.Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse has submitted multiple replies that XRP is not a security, and Ripple has officially transferred them to the court. But it is useful to follow the date of February 22nd.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: syedrasool2011 on February 05, 2021, 05:23:11 PM
The lawsuit will probably have results in our favor, so when the case is over , a person should be able to buy XRP for at least $0.44, otherwise we would give it very cheap and sell it without seeing $1 for that hold your coins sec report will be finish in future hold your coins.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: moantana on February 06, 2021, 01:13:37 AM
The SEC has not given any mercy to ripple which has driven the price down steadily since then but ripple is now starting to emerge from this slump.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: syedrasool2011 on February 14, 2021, 06:22:55 AM
Ripple always good about SEC Everything was planned years ago. These banks been testing XRP trading for a long time now if that wasn't the case JP Morgan Head Executive wouldn't leave Chase for Ripple for that dont worry ripple will back again and boom in market again take place 3rd chance to beat eth soon.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Cryptoz on February 15, 2021, 11:04:45 PM
This is still ongoing and everyone is really waiting for the decision on 22 or 26 February.
The trial will really determine how XRP will go forward. We know that the XRP community is very strong and the developers can't possibly let them lose. But on the other hand, the SEC is a strong and lawful organization. Alright, let's just take a look. If XRP is no longer a problem, I believe that the price of XRP will bounce faster.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Oxumare on February 16, 2021, 05:17:41 PM
In the joint statement by the SEC and Ripple to the federal court, there has been no consensus for now.The two sides will continue to come together and talk about solutions.I guess Ripple could even settle for the $ 1.2 billion claimed in the lawsuit.
I am looking forward to the coming process.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: masudginanjar on February 17, 2021, 06:33:27 AM
The SEC is indeed king of financial regulation in America, so like it or not, this RIpple coin must comply with the policies of the SEC.
Then I also saw that Ripple spent about 650,000 USD in administration fees to the SEC but so far there has been no fix for the problem.
It is very sad about the RIpple coin but this is proof that the Ripple coin must be preserved by Jedd McCalleb.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: I-Bit on February 17, 2021, 11:18:31 PM
This is still on the process and they are still having their own argument with their strength and also a weakness. In this case, XRP will get the decision of the lawsuit in the US. However, I am not sure that XRP will be losing at that time. And we know about the thing will happen after the ifnormation
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Oxumare on February 21, 2021, 01:30:45 PM
Mary Jo White, a former SEC chairman, on the matter of SEC's Ripple,said it was completely wrong.White is also among the lawyers who will defend Ripple against the SEC.  8)

Meanwhile, the SEC made new additions to the complaint file, and the 71-page file increased to 79.  ;D
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: wxxyrqa on February 24, 2021, 01:58:25 PM
Of course, I understand that many cryptocurrency users advocate in Defense of Ripple, since they are investors in this project and hold large enough volumes of this cryptocurrency. But today there is a problem and it must be solved first of all, so that investors can not worry about risks and not succumb to panic, selling Ripples in the market, thereby bringing down the price.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: Fenix on April 09, 2021, 05:36:05 AM
In the joint statement by the SEC and Ripple to the federal court, there has been no consensus for now.The two sides will continue to come together and talk about solutions.I guess Ripple could even settle for the $ 1.2 billion claimed in the lawsuit.
I am looking forward to the coming process.
As far as I know, the next meeting on the SEC suit is scheduled for April 12. Meanwhile, ripple in recent days began to rise sharply in price and now stands at $ 1.03. I have not found the reason for this growth. After all, three days ago, on April 6, its price was $ 0.78. Maybe something turns out in a positive direction on this claim? It seems to me that in any case, Ripple Labs will pay some amount, perhaps much less than the stated $ 1.2 billion.
Title: Re: SEC vs. Ripple: A predictable but undesirable development
Post by: legend45 on April 11, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Of course, I understand that many cryptocurrency users advocate in Defense of Ripple, since they are investors in this project and hold large enough volumes of this cryptocurrency. But today there is a problem and it must be solved first of all, so that investors can not worry about risks and not succumb to panic, selling Ripples in the market, thereby bringing down the price.

Yes I see.This is competition of crypto currency world. I think It is normal, And I believe ripple team will have good solution about SEC issue. We all know ripple is bank coin and has been supported by bank..I believe ripple will go up.again and more valuable..