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Title: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: wildanmr on October 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma. I think the technique of this fiture like 'Report to Moderator'.

And with this fiture, I think the negative karma giver will responsible about it and admin/judge/moderator can consider it. I hope Altcoinstalks is getting even better. Thank you :)
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: ayatoslaw on October 28, 2018, 09:19:10 AM
a good idea, I also agree,
maybe even better if someone gives negative karma, the name comes out at the post that is given karma,
so we can know who gave negative karma and we can know what the reason is.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: wildanmr on October 28, 2018, 09:32:11 AM
a good idea, I also agree,
maybe even better if someone gives negative karma, the name comes out at the post that is given karma,
so we can know who gave negative karma and we can know what the reason is.

Thanks for agree my idea.
But about displaying the name of negative karma giver I think it will be dangerous and trigger of 'karma war'.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Goku01 on October 28, 2018, 10:15:42 AM
The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the name who gave both positive and negative karma on the post. For this everyone can see if the karma is abused or not. I think the karma abuse will reduce up to 90% if the name shown in the post that get karma.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: juv3ntus1 on October 28, 2018, 01:04:29 PM
The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the name who gave both positive and negative karma on the post. For this everyone can see if the karma is abused or not. I think the karma abuse will reduce up to 90% if the name shown in the post that get karma.

the problems is if somebody konw from who give him positive or negative karma,will want to give back.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: PRIBO247 on October 28, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma. I think the technique of this fiture like 'Report to Moderator'.

And with this fiture, I think the negative karma giver will responsible about it and admin/judge/moderator can consider it. I hope Altcoinstalks is getting even better. Thank you :)

This is a wonderful idea! Even better is the idea of giving a reason for the negative karma and having the admin/moderator look at it before going ahead. I think this fixture should indeed be added.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: PRIBO247 on October 28, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
a good idea, I also agree,
maybe even better if someone gives negative karma, the name comes out at the post that is given karma,
so we can know who gave negative karma and we can know what the reason is.

Showing the names of negative/positive karma giver is not necessary. It helps to avoid pointless feud.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Legenda on October 28, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma. I think the technique of this fiture like 'Report to Moderator'.

And with this fiture, I think the negative karma giver will responsible about it and admin/judge/moderator can consider it. I hope Altcoinstalks is getting even better. Thank you :)

Karma is very sensitive case yeah?
And we should be fix it together especially for abuse Negative Karma.
Very interesting idea if we need to fill reason before we submit like 'Report to moderator' fiture.

Go Altcoinstalks! To be better forum 8)
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Goku01 on October 28, 2018, 05:52:11 PM
The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the name who gave both positive and negative karma on the post. For this everyone can see if the karma is abused or not. I think the karma abuse will reduce up to 90% if the name shown in the post that get karma.

the problems is if somebody konw from who give him positive or negative karma,will want to give back.

If you find good/bad post of him you give positive/negative karma. As there is proof you can easily detect who gave you karma and for which reason. If you think you don't deserve negative for the post you can complain to admin or moderator. If everyone can see which post get karma then everyone will fair to give nonsense karma.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Leonardo on October 28, 2018, 06:22:40 PM
As there is proof you can easily detect who gave you karma and for which reason. If you think you don't deserve negative for the post you can complain to admin or moderator.
Can you elaborate on this? I am curious to dead to know who gave me karma(s)? Like you said, if one day total member of forum reaches 2 million and everyone receiving negative karma wants to complain to admin or moderator, what else can mod/admin do aside from resolving those complaints?

Talking about "karma", I think it's the combination of "merit" and "trust" in the forum X and everyone knows that the trust system is being seriously abused (people can give negative trust to other with some shady reasons, that's not to mention the right to give positive/negative trust is centralized in some people's hands). It'd be better to let karma system work like karma in Reddit. If you got positive karma then your total karma increases and if you get negative karma, your total karma decreases.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Zed0X on October 28, 2018, 07:13:05 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma.
I don't think this is necessary. The forum rules are clear and the admin can always contact the one who gave the negative karma if there is going to be a dispute at our forum court.

The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the name who gave both positive and negative karma on the post. For this everyone can see if the karma is abused or not. I think the karma abuse will reduce up to 90% if the name shown in the post that get karma.

This solution may lead to toxic debates among those who were given a negative karma and those who gave it. 

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My own suggestion:
I think having a "karma history" is enough since some of us do not really monitor Karma count. No need to include the names, just the dates when you got the positive/negative karma. Everything else is working fine. 
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: wildanmr on October 29, 2018, 12:27:07 AM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma.
I don't think this is necessary. The forum rules are clear and the admin can always contact the one who gave the negative karma if there is going to be a dispute at our forum court.

The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the name who gave both positive and negative karma on the post. For this everyone can see if the karma is abused or not. I think the karma abuse will reduce up to 90% if the name shown in the post that get karma.

This solution may lead to toxic debates among those who were given a negative karma and those who gave it. 

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My own suggestion:
I think having a "karma history" is enough since some of us do not really monitor Karma count. No need to include the names, just the dates when you got the positive/negative karma. Everything else is working fine.

Talking showing who gave Karma I agree with you especially for Negative Karma. I think it's very dangerous step.
Okay nice idea dude for showing the date. Thanks for idea.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: EmoneyABC on October 29, 2018, 12:47:43 AM
This is a good idea but I don't know if technically possible and for sure involves a lot of additional work and resources.

There is a log in which Admin has a lot of useful informations about issued karma.

As for now all court cases were resolved without a problem and we have ni complains so the karma system is already checked and seems to be working good.

Don't try to repair something which already works.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Unknown on October 29, 2018, 12:50:55 PM
How about positive karma? Most of the members abused it not only negative karma

I think the best solution for this case is to entrust atleast 10 people to see and review karma log of the admin, just a suggestion
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Zed0X on October 29, 2018, 07:05:15 PM
How about positive karma? Most of the members abused it not only negative karma

I think the best solution for this case is to entrust atleast 10 people to see and review karma log of the admin, just a suggestion

You may have a valid concern about the "abuse" on giving out positive karma. I believe admin has taken note of that already since some of our members raised that issue before. As the forum grows bigger, I think admin will eventually delegate some of the task like karma monitoring.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Dinid on October 30, 2018, 06:02:55 AM
Nice suggestion from bro Wildan.

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After click Punish, and before karma point will be sent, it might be better if there is a reason box first. After type the valid reason, the Punisher can click OK button. Well done 👏👏👏, a negative karma point is being sent automatically
This is just to make sure to the punisher (sender) about his/her action.
Simply click punish button feature might be lead to the wrong action easily (the sender accidentally click punish button, even he/she do not want to send it).

Karma court ? I think karma court is just for "critical case", not for "accidental karma sending".
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Quantum X on October 30, 2018, 01:06:07 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I have an idea how if before giving negative karma we must give a reason first why we gave it. I am worried about the abuse of negative karma.
I don't think this is necessary. The forum rules are clear and the admin can always contact the one who gave the negative karma if there is going to be a dispute at our forum court.

My own suggestion:
I think having a "karma history" is enough since some of us do not really monitor Karma count. No need to include the names, just the dates when you got the positive/negative karma. Everything else is working fine.
I agree with karma history but it should be better if the karma giver will include to and the post which the reason of receiving the + or - karma.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Goku01 on October 30, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
As there is proof you can easily detect who gave you karma and for which reason. If you think you don't deserve negative for the post you can complain to admin or moderator.
Can you elaborate on this? I am curious to dead to know who gave me karma(s)? Like you said, if one day total member of forum reaches 2 million and everyone receiving negative karma wants to complain to admin or moderator, what else can mod/admin do aside from resolving those complaints?

Talking about "karma", I think it's the combination of "merit" and "trust" in the forum X and everyone knows that the trust system is being seriously abused (people can give negative trust to other with some shady reasons, that's not to mention the right to give positive/negative trust is centralized in some people's hands). It'd be better to let karma system work like karma in Reddit. If you got positive karma then your total karma increases and if you get negative karma, your total karma decreases.
Who changed my karma
Whose karma have I changed

It will be two option.  In which there we can see who give me karma and which post and reason. on the other hand 2nd option you can see which post you gave karma. Do you get it now?? If you don't i can make a image like what i have said.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: wildanmr on October 31, 2018, 11:44:50 PM
This is a good idea but I don't know if technically possible and for sure involves a lot of additional work and resources.

There is a log in which Admin has a lot of useful informations about issued karma.

As for now all court cases were resolved without a problem and we have ni complains so the karma system is already checked and seems to be working good.

Don't try to repair something which already works.

Thanks to respond my thread :)
For now maybe yes for involves additional work especially on website system.
OK sir, I just convey my idea :)
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: Collinberg on November 01, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
This is a wonderful suggestions and the admins should really look into this, if not anybody with anbeef with another person would just gather his/her friends and they would all give the person negative karma.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: wildanmr on November 02, 2018, 02:36:05 AM
Nice suggestion from bro Wildan.

Quote
After click Punish, and before karma point will be sent, it might be better if there is a reason box first. After type the valid reason, the Punisher can click OK button. Well done 👏👏👏, a negative karma point is being sent automatically
This is just to make sure to the punisher (sender) about his/her action.
Simply click punish button feature might be lead to the wrong action easily (the sender accidentally click punish button, even he/she do not want to send it).

Karma court ? I think karma court is just for "critical case", not for "accidental karma sending".

Ohh I see. Do you mean adding dialog box to confirm action?
That's also nice idea bro to reduce Karma push accident.
Title: Re: [Suggestion] Fiture: Add Reason Before Giving Negative Karma
Post by: hair on June 22, 2020, 01:41:10 PM
I totally agree, so we will not make the same mistakes that can make negative karma again. when this is implemented I look forward to it.