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Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« on: June 20, 2021, 11:45:29 AM »
I see username Papa Bear with rank Jr. member join bounty Non Fungible Defi (NFD), Papa Bear get Additional Membergroups: Potential Hero. But Papa Bear register bounty Non Fungible Defi (NFD) with rank hero member and accepted.
Link Bounty : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216061.0
Link profile Papa Bear : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=80913



Link proof delete, but alltalk quote proof Papa Bear
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216061.msg1193060#msg1193060


In spreadsheet papa Bear accepted with rank Hero Member
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w9Ufh6h3YPD1TS6IzIndea5D4jVCObUc3nx10VcgqhI/edit#gid=870330588


reference :
1. http://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=183665.0
2. http://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=8508.0
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Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2021, 04:02:13 PM »
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 01:04:44 AM »
Yes, I have warned Papa Bear on the bounty thread and sent a message to the bounty manager. But no response both from Papa bear and Small Rabbit.

By the way, I am surprised Papa Bear's Proof of Registration was deleted. It mustn't be deleted, it is the evidence for this case. Who deleted the Proof of Registration?

Can you investigate it, @hair?
You should know it because you are GM and Decentralized team as well.

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2021, 04:03:55 AM »
Isn't the Bounty Manager up to date with the extra badge on the Altcoinstalks forum ?
Does the Bounty Manager not know the function of "Potential Hero" and rank "Hero" ?

This should be an education for all Bounty Managers so that on other occasions they can be wiser in accepting the existing rules.

-This thread proves that Junior Members turn into Heroes.
-This thread is monitored by Modz, Senator, GM and Vice President and President.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2021, 08:33:19 AM »
we (alltalk and me) looked at this case, and Papa Bear has now SCAM badge.

I will also contact the GM who deleted Papa Bear's Proof of Registration for more information. I know who did it.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2021, 02:19:23 AM »
Dear Admin, President, VP, Judges, all GMs and mods,

I ask for justice, because as an altcoinstalks member I feel that one of the GM has treated me unfairly. (malam90)
When I joined the NFD paid BTC bounty, my Hero rank was rejected while the potential hero rank was accepted. And I asked BM smallrabbit to recheck that the potential hero is not a forum rank but an additional membership, GM Malam90 defended papa bear and debated  my argument. 
Even though the general rules have included forum rank, not honour rank. 
You can check my screen shoot from small rabbit tele group, here.

And when Alltalk, one of the judges warned that papa bear cheated by quoting the POA, apparently after that GM deleted the POA.
He said papa bear requested to delete the POA.
why ??
doesn't he read or not see ?
All talk has warned  papa bear at bounty thread about scam.

Is this a conspiracy to eliminate the evidence ?

Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216061.msg1193060#msg1193060

Why ?  shouldn't GM do it, if there is a request from the member, GM Malam90 should ask permission to bounty mod, mnixxo.

Sounds weird....it's really strange.
What's wrong ?

Admin said "If you think someone is cheating, and has multiple accounts and applying to bounties and airdrops, present your proofs here. Any mod or even upper management that tries to delete a report before the judge decides on it will lose his rank."

Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

Malam90 has deleted the proof, what about this, sir??

admin, president,VP, judges, GMs  and all mods, kindly please the rules be enforced..

Maybe we all know malam90 was "ill" , I've asked several mods, they said malam90 was ill,
really ??
but He still posted every day, you can check his activities and has commented on small rabbit tele group  againsted me.

I hope I will get justice here.
I'm just an ordinary member but I want the rules to be enforced.

"Hopefully No GM abuses his power and help a scammer"

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2021, 12:30:33 PM »
Dear Admin, President, VP, Judges, all GMs and mods,
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I've been asked for my opinion on this from others, but ultimately this is something for mnixxo or alltalk to deal with as Judges of this community forum. Particularly mnixxo as a global mod as well.

I've asked Malam90 for a response to this thread for clarity on why this poa post was deleted. We all make mistakes, myself included, and I believe this is one of them. It's best to acknowledge and learn from our mistakes...

While I respect the decision of the elected Judges of this forum, a user trying to use Potential Hero rank as Hero rank for a bounty isn't exactly what I would call scamming. The Potential Hero rank literally has "Hero" within it, so I'm not surprised Papa Bear attempted to enroll in a bounty campaign using their "Hero" status. Whether they are accepted as such should be up for BM's to decide, rather than mods or Judges in my opinion. I see this more as opportunistic rather than trying to scam a bounty manager. Bounty cheaters are usually those who enroll multiple accounts, plagiarism, etc. This was a relatively transparent maneuver, hence it failed. I'd consider this more suspicious than outright scammer personally, but it's also not my decision to make.

Furthermore, I don't know why Papa Bear has PH rank instead of Teleported Hero rank, so there may be more to this user than we are aware of. Only admin knows why this user has this rank and not teleported, and there is probably a good reason rather than being a Hero member elsewhere in my opinion (otherwise they would have teleported rank). Ultimately, this is upto Small Rabbit to decide whether to accept this user as Hero or not. It's also up to Judges to decide whether to give a scammer tag as well if they feel it's appropriate. There is a balance in here somewhere. I'm therefore unsurprised Malam90 sided with Papa Bear and Small Rabbit in the matter, rather than the Judges. He's entitled to disagree with this situation, as am I.

I otherwise think the Judges of this forum have made it abundantly clear: Potential Hero ranks will not be accepted as Hero members and this precedent has now been made. Whether BM's, myself , VP or admin like this decision or not should be considered irrelevant. These Judges were elected by the community after being nominated by the Senate. Their decision should be respected in the matter regardless.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2021, 02:41:56 PM »
Hi all, i am not involved in any cheating from my life but we are man. Sometimes we can do mistakes but this doesn't mean that i foster any cheater. Last few days i was ill. I just completed my bounty works from staying at bed, not spending many times in the forum.

This signature budget was low. That's why BM decided to post signature only Bitcointalk forum. After posting bounty link for social campaigns in altcoinstalks forum, i discussed with BM and he told me that budget is low. So it is only for Bitcointalk forum. I requested him to post BTC (USDT later) campaign here for altcoinstalks community and he agreed with my request later and posted signature campaign here.

At first when Small Rabbit contracted with me when bounty started. I told him it is upto BM's decision, it's not my control. BM accepted him as he didn't know too much about forum rank and additional group membership. Few days ago, Papa Bear requested me to delete the POA post, he confessed that he did wrong and will never do it again. I simply deleted it without any future plan or future think. Later i answered with mnixxo that i deleted it what i have said this.

@fadl4 you should stop lying that i deprived you. You applied as a hero member but it is no 8. Before you, there is 7 Hero members. The hero spot was only 5 and you were no 8. How did i deprive you? Who am i that deprived you from signature? BM takes according to his will.  Do you know what i did silently for this community? You guys, always find where there is any hole (fault) but don't think the reality. You all guys make many mistakes, i notice but i always avoid by just deleting the post. Why? because i don't want too many rude behave in the forum. I want a friendly environment.

Guys, i am man, i am not free from mistakes. If Dragon, mnixxo think it as general mistake of me, they can warn me or take big step.  :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2021, 03:05:28 PM »
Dear Admin, President, VP, Judges, all GMs and mods,

I ask for justice, because as an altcoinstalks member I feel that one of the GM has treated me unfairly. (malam90)
When I joined the NFD paid BTC bounty, my Hero rank was rejected while the potential hero rank was accepted. And I asked BM smallrabbit to recheck that the potential hero is not a forum rank but an additional membership, GM Malam90 defended papa bear and debated  my argument. 
Even though the general rules have included forum rank, not honour rank. 
You can check my screen shoot from small rabbit tele group, here.

And when Alltalk, one of the judges warned that papa bear cheated by quoting the POA, apparently after that GM deleted the POA.
He said papa bear requested to delete the POA.
why ??
doesn't he read or not see ?
All talk has warned  papa bear at bounty thread about scam.

Is this a conspiracy to eliminate the evidence ?

Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216061.msg1193060#msg1193060

Why ?  shouldn't GM do it, if there is a request from the member, GM Malam90 should ask permission to bounty mod, mnixxo.

Sounds weird....it's really strange.
What's wrong ?

Admin said "If you think someone is cheating, and has multiple accounts and applying to bounties and airdrops, present your proofs here. Any mod or even upper management that tries to delete a report before the judge decides on it will lose his rank."

Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

Malam90 has deleted the proof, what about this, sir??

admin, president,VP, judges, GMs  and all mods, kindly please the rules be enforced..

Maybe we all know malam90 was "ill" , I've asked several mods, they said malam90 was ill,
really ??
but He still posted every day, you can check his activities and has commented on small rabbit tele group  againsted me.

I hope I will get justice here.
I'm just an ordinary member but I want the rules to be enforced.

"Hopefully No GM abuses his power and help a scammer"

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Who told you that i deleted POA post? Because you aren't mod. So it is impossible for you to find out who deleted it. Why mod's secret activity comes to light? I only told with mnixxo. He is very responsible person and won't disclose it. I am sure. Only mods can see through moderation log.  So, I want to know who told you about it? It's impossible to find it for you and general users of the forum. Answer my question.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2021, 03:25:32 PM »
Hello Guys!

Sorry for the late reply. Firstly let me clear everything pointwise. My rank was given by Honourable Admin, and he gave me this rank after checking my posts quality. So when that bounty came form SR, I have applied for it and told him that I have a POTENTIAL HERO rank and I am applying for your signature, at first he said "no", then I have told him to check my post quality and also told GM Malam to check this situation too. After few hours I got accepted, so I have started the work. Then suddenly I saw a lot of negative comment about my account on SR group, so I request malam to help me. As a mod he helped me a lot. Also at the end I got a lot of -ve karma, so I told GM to help me to delete the post.

Now, let's come to the point first.

As far as I know potential hero rank means I have the capability of a Hero, and on the forum there was no rules about it, that a potential hero member can't apply for a hero rank. On Admin post it was uncertain too - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=8508.0 , also in that time I was able to ware the hero's signature that's why I joined on it.

If you think that it was a crime, then I am ready to repay my total USDT to the forum, I have no issues with it.

But there was a full gang attack on my account with -ve karma which is very bad experience frankly speaking. My request is as a GM and Judge you should contact both party and here from them what was going on. But I did not get any message from @alltalk although Small Rabbit received from him. So more confusion was created on there.

I was contacted @mnixxo 1 day ago and he told me, my fault was typing the HERO rank on my POA.

Finally, my experience was very bad, continuously they were attacking me with -ve karma. It is not the solution, you should talk with both of them first.

And @fadl4 Potential Hero rank is only obtained by Admin, and I think it is not a membership or kind of that, you should read the admin post properly.
Also I am requesting to all the GM, please take care of the posts quality, for example

@fadl4 check this HERO's post

1.
What about safepal hardwallet, is it recommended to have? I see that many people are familiar with the Safepal wallet and many people have also used it

2.
Now almost a lot of people are using trust wallet because there are already many projects using BEP20. Can the Houbi wallet accept Bep20 tokens?

3.
Delete

few example, in this way they are increasing their posts without any efforts. Thank you


And finally if you guys @alltheGM&Judge still think I am wrong, I would love to replay my reward and will left Altcointalks, I will be waiting for your response too @dragononcrypto. Thank you.

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2021, 05:22:36 PM »
Who told you that i deleted POA post? Because you aren't mod. So it is impossible for you to find out who deleted it. Why mod's secret activity comes to light? I only told with mnixxo. He is very responsible person and won't disclose it. I am sure. Only mods can see through moderation log.  So, I want to know who told you about it? It's impossible to find it for you and general users of the forum. Answer my question.
You should see the mnixxo statement above, if there is one GM who has deleted  POA. 
Based on that statement, I can conclude that it's you. 
Because you are the only GM who defends papa bear in smallrabbit tele group. 
If you feel it's not you?  please provide proof that it's not you. 
And if there is a request from papa bear, can you provide proof of your conversation, regarding the request for papa bear to delete the POA.
why the POA had to be deleted after alltalk warned in the smallrabbit thread.
whats wrong?
If you don't feel guilty, why delete it?
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2021, 05:25:03 PM »
Who told you that i deleted POA post? Because you aren't mod. So it is impossible for you to find out who deleted it. Why mod's secret activity comes to light? I only told with mnixxo. He is very responsible person and won't disclose it. I am sure. Only mods can see through moderation log.  So, I want to know who told you about it? It's impossible to find it for you and general users of the forum. Answer my question.
You should see the mnixxo statement above, if there is one GM who has deleted  POA. 
Based on that statement, I can conclude that it's you. 
Because you are the only GM who defends papa bear in smallrabbit tele group. 
If you feel it's not you?  please provide proof that it's not you. 
And if there is a request from papa bear, can you provide proof of your conversation, regarding the request for papa bear to delete the POA.
why the POA had to be deleted after alltalk warned in the smallrabbit thread.
whats wrong?
If you don't feel guilty, why delete it?

mnixxo didn't say "Malam90" deleted POA post. How did you assume that Malam90 deleted? Because there are 5 other global mods. I am not nonsense  that i will disclose chat of others in public. I told all in the above. See it. But for your wrong allegation against me  that i deprived you from signature. You are here " putting allegation against Mods or stuffs". @mnixxo @dragononcrypto please see the arrogant of this user.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2021, 05:29:58 PM »
Hello Guys!

Sorry for the late reply. Firstly let me clear everything pointwise. My rank was given by Honourable Admin, and he gave me this rank after checking my posts quality. So when that bounty came form SR, I have applied for it and told him that I have a POTENTIAL HERO rank and I am applying for your signature, at first he said "no", then I have told him to check my post quality and also told GM Malam to check this situation too. After few hours I got accepted, so I have started the work. Then suddenly I saw a lot of negative comment about my account on SR group, so I request malam to help me. As a mod he helped me a lot. Also at the end I got a lot of -ve karma, so I told GM to help me to delete the post.

Now, let's come to the point first.

As far as I know potential hero rank means I have the capability of a Hero, and on the forum there was no rules about it, that a potential hero member can't apply for a hero rank. On Admin post it was uncertain too - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=8508.0 , also in that time I was able to ware the hero's signature that's why I joined on it.

If you think that it was a crime, then I am ready to repay my total USDT to the forum, I have no issues with it.

But there was a full gang attack on my account with -ve karma which is very bad experience frankly speaking. My request is as a GM and Judge you should contact both party and here from them what was going on. But I did not get any message from @alltalk although Small Rabbit received from him. So more confusion was created on there.

I was contacted @mnixxo 1 day ago and he told me, my fault was typing the HERO rank on my POA.

Finally, my experience was very bad, continuously they were attacking me with -ve karma. It is not the solution, you should talk with both of them first.

And @fadl4 Potential Hero rank is only obtained by Admin, and I think it is not a membership or kind of that, you should read the admin post properly.
Also I am requesting to all the GM, please take care of the posts quality, for example

@fadl4 check this HERO's post

1.
What about safepal hardwallet, is it recommended to have? I see that many people are familiar with the Safepal wallet and many people have also used it

2.
Now almost a lot of people are using trust wallet because there are already many projects using BEP20. Can the Houbi wallet accept Bep20 tokens?

3.
Delete

few example, in this way they are increasing their posts without any efforts. Thank you


And finally if you guys @alltheGM&Judge still think I am wrong, I would love to replay my reward and will left Altcointalks, I will be waiting for your response too @dragononcrypto. Thank you.
if you talk about the quality of my posts, you should ask why in the forum the achievement of rank is not only based on the quality of the post, but also the quantity of the posts. 
I did rank up from the lowest rank, newbie. 
You can see when my account registration. 
If the old members are not valued, what will happen to friends here  who rank up from the bottom.
 There should be clear rules about who has the right to join the bounty. 
And hopefully the judges and the president can provide a solution for this debate.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2021, 05:35:47 PM »
mnixxo didn't say "Malam90" deleted POA post. How did you assume that Malam90 deleted? Because there are 5 other global mods. I am not nonsense  that i will disclose chat of others in public. I told all in the above. See it. But for your wrong allegation against me  that i deprived you from signature. You are here " putting allegation against Mods or stuffs".
if you feel it's not you, please show evidence that it wasn't you who did it.
why do i think it was you?  because you are the only GM who defends papa bear in smallrabbit group telegram.  is this wrong?  if wrong, show proof that it's not you.
I also want to know,
can you show the proof that papa bear asked you to delete the POA. why?
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2021, 05:52:24 PM »
There should be clear rules about who has the right to join the bounty.

As you can see on the above message, BM already approved me for this task. So what is your issue about it ? Also there was no rules about it, that I can't participated on it. If I can ware the signature and have a Potential Hero rank, I though I can join this, and that's why BM approved me. If there was such rules why should I participate on it? Be logical.

Also, why are you tagging GMs? I was the guy who request him to delete my POA, because you and your gang was attacking me continuously with -ve karma, apparently Honourable @Admin can see that only.

I think @fadl4 you are not bigger than ADMIN and BOUNTY MANAGER!!! So please respect them and their decision.

Again I am telling all the GMs and Judges, I am ready to refund all the reward with proof if needed. Also I am requesting @Admin and @mnixxo @dragononcrypto please check the serial -ve karma attack. Everything should be cleared on here. I think one person can give +/- karma after 100 hours, so please launch an investigation about it. A gang can destroy whole forum, as it was happened with other platform.


 

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