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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2024, 03:05:05 PM »
Gambling addictions is caused by aggressive stakes which the gambler needed to recover back his lost and then he may decide to quit or stop chasing after profits but while on the context he would always keep up loosing.
His grieves of unrecoverables would always justify his action at the points of aggrieve ness.

Aside counselings, can an addicted gambler ever moderate himself all by himself to quit or limit his gambling addictions?

It's depend, not all gamblers that are addicted usually knows that they are addicted but sometimes few of them know. Some gamblers become addicted to the stage that it's difficult for them to even know for themselves that they are actually addicted, this kind of gamblers can't help themselves until another person or a friend help them out.

For a gambler that knows that he is addicted and he is ready to help the situation, then he need to reduce his time in gambling, only when you make yourself available toy become too addicted to gambling and also make sure you have other things you do aside from gambling, more like physical work.
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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2024, 05:00:12 PM »
Gambling addictions is caused by aggressive stakes which the gambler needed to recover back his lost and then he may decide to quit or stop chasing after profits but while on the context he would always keep up loosing.
His grieves of unrecoverables would always justify his action at the points of aggrieve ness.

Aside counselings, can an addicted gambler ever moderate himself all by himself to quit or limit his gambling addictions?

It's depend, not all gamblers that are addicted usually knows that they are addicted but sometimes few of them know. Some gamblers become addicted to the stage that it's difficult for them to even know for themselves that they are actually addicted, this kind of gamblers can't help themselves until another person or a friend help them out.

For a gambler that knows that he is addicted and he is ready to help the situation, then he need to reduce his time in gambling, only when you make yourself available toy become too addicted to gambling and also make sure you have other things you do aside from gambling, more like physical work.
Well, awareness that comes from oneself is one of the keys to being able to limit their gambling so that they don't become addicted, but the problem is that sometimes they don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling, exactly as you said.

This is actually a more difficult thing, the problem is that when they don't want to admit that they are addicted, then if any advice comes to them they will reject it. And they will think that someone who advises them is someone who is interfering in their lives.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2024, 05:43:06 PM »
Well, awareness that comes from oneself is one of the keys to being able to limit their gambling so that they don't become addicted, but the problem is that sometimes they don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling, exactly as you said.

This is actually a more difficult thing, the problem is that when they don't want to admit that they are addicted, then if any advice comes to them they will reject it. And they will think that someone who advises them is someone who is interfering in their lives.
Yes, that is our difficulty in determining whether they are addicted to gambling or not, because we have to be self-aware to admit that we are very addicted to gambling. So far, curing people like that is very difficult to do.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2024, 11:49:32 PM »
It's possible for a gambler to help himself through an addiction, but it's not an easy journey, it takes a great deal of self discipline and control to be able to help himself through addiction. Because sometimes you don't even know when you'll see yourself overspending in gambling or exceeding your gambling limits, it is after you've exhausted all your resources that you realize yourself and then you'll be left with nothing but regret.

This has happened to so many addicted gamblers who has already made the decision of not gambling or overspending and exceeding their gambling limits.
So to be on the safest side, it's advisable to seek help from others you know can help you. Maybe relatives or better still, seek professional help. It'd be alot more easier that way.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2024, 12:31:40 PM »
Well, awareness that comes from oneself is one of the keys to being able to limit their gambling so that they don't become addicted, but the problem is that sometimes they don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling, exactly as you said.

This is actually a more difficult thing, the problem is that when they don't want to admit that they are addicted, then if any advice comes to them they will reject it. And they will think that someone who advises them is someone who is interfering in their lives.
Yes, that is our difficulty in determining whether they are addicted to gambling or not, because we have to be self-aware to admit that we are very addicted to gambling. So far, curing people like that is very difficult to do.
It's not hard to determine whether a person is addicted to gambling or not. The gambler himself probably does not see it, but the people around him can see it. The hard thing to do is to provide help to someone who has a blind eye or those people who don't know how to identify the level of addiction they have. Because giving a hand to those kinds of people is hard if they don't accept any help from anyone.
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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #65 on: April 23, 2024, 02:21:27 AM »
Indeed, recognizing addiction in oneself can be quite challenging, and the external perspective from friends and family can be crucial in identifying these issues early. The real challenge, as you mentioned, comes in offering help to those who may not yet realize they need it. It’s important to approach such situations with compassion and understanding, maintaining an open line of communication. Providing information and supporting access to professional help can make a significant difference. It's also uplifting to see communities come together to provide support and resources for recovery.

You're absolutely right my friend.
It's almost impossible and often difficult for the addicted victims to see what the people around him sees, so people around him plays a very vital role towards ensuring he gets all the help he needs .

Criticism isn't often the best way to approach someone who already suffering from addiction, because there's always this stigma around addiction and also fear of being judged, so even if it's just a harmless criticism, they may actually misunderstand you and take it as being judged and this could make them lose the interest of recieving help from you or others around them.

So it's important to approach such persons with  understanding and love, try to engage in an open and honest conversation about their addiction, sometimes, you can also share other worst stories of addiction, it'll help them not to feel completely helpless and beyond redemption.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2024, 06:00:03 AM »
Distracting by finding other, healthier activities and always trying to avoid high-risk situations are tricks you can use to manipulate yourself and your mind away from the urge to gamble.
I can attest to this. While I'm not addicted to gambling, I have a family member who has an addiction to something else. It is not as bad as gambling addiction or any destructive behavior though, but they can feel the urge to do that activity quite often which can affect their health. One of them needs to drink coffee every morning, and if she doesn't she gets a terrible headache. Fortunately, with diet and physical activity, she doesn't have to drink as often anymore. One thing I realize though, she finds it easier to change her habit whenever someone reminds her or watches out for her. The same can be said for another member of my family who likes to smoke a lot.

Addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something.
And basically, all therapies to overcome addiction have almost the same therapy pattern.
Diverting thoughts to positive things and support from family and close relatives will speed up the healing process.
Thanks for your statement, and I hope your family is free from other addictions that may affect their health.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2024, 09:20:46 PM »
Indeed, recognizing addiction in oneself can be quite challenging, and the external perspective from friends and family can be crucial in identifying these issues early. The real challenge, as you mentioned, comes in offering help to those who may not yet realize they need it. It’s important to approach such situations with compassion and understanding, maintaining an open line of communication. Providing information and supporting access to professional help can make a significant difference. It's also uplifting to see communities come together to provide support and resources for recovery.

You're absolutely right my friend.
It's almost impossible and often difficult for the addicted victims to see what the people around him sees, so people around him plays a very vital role towards ensuring he gets all the help he needs .

Criticism isn't often the best way to approach someone who already suffering from addiction, because there's always this stigma around addiction and also fear of being judged, so even if it's just a harmless criticism, they may actually misunderstand you and take it as being judged and this could make them lose the interest of recieving help from you or others around them.

So it's important to approach such persons with  understanding and love, try to engage in an open and honest conversation about their addiction, sometimes, you can also share other worst stories of addiction, it'll help them not to feel completely helpless and beyond redemption.

Im with you. Such people are often sensitive and unsolicited criticism is rarely constructive and brings no results. People without addictions must learn to cultivate empathy and treat addicts with understanding. And probably this is also easier said than done because usually the first reaction to the action of a person's addiction is negative. But still since those facing addiction may not fully grasp their situation, expecting them to respond positively to criticism is unrealistic.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2024, 09:26:38 PM »
Yes, that is our difficulty in determining whether they are addicted to gambling or not, because we have to be self-aware to admit that we are very addicted to gambling. So far, curing people like that is very difficult to do.

Any smart person will know that when he his losing all the money he has been using to bet, then he or she is to be self aware that the time is due to quit gambling because he is not making anything, this logic is simple and pretty straightforward, only a delusional gambler and careless person will not think this true if they are gambler.

Another thing you can use as self awareness is that when your initial bankroll finished on time and you don't make any profit from it, that means you are due to know that yes indeed you have reach the points where you have to give gambling a little break and then come back when you know your are good to go again or just quit.
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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2024, 10:00:50 PM »
Yes, that is our difficulty in determining whether they are addicted to gambling or not, because we have to be self-aware to admit that we are very addicted to gambling. So far, curing people like that is very difficult to do.

Any smart person will know that when he his losing all the money he has been using to bet, then he or she is to be self aware that the time is due to quit gambling because he is not making anything, this logic is simple and pretty straightforward, only a delusional gambler and careless person will not think this true if they are gambler.

Another thing you can use as self awareness is that when your initial bankroll finished on time and you don't make any profit from it, that means you are due to know that yes indeed you have reach the points where you have to give gambling a little break and then come back when you know your are good to go again or just quit.

As it was said, it is only self responsible gamblers can refrain from gambling addiction. And someone that is committed to gamble and became a gambling addict, it is not easy for him to come out or come back to normalcy again because at that stage he is chasing all his loss to gain than back. And the more he chase them the more he went into the deep. Because they are not even aware of themselves so when they are losing they don't even realize themselves. So the only way to make him to realize himself is the orientation from others before the self awareness can be guaranteed. All what I mean is that people have to call his attention to correct him before he will know he is addicted in gambling if not, he might be thinking that he is doing the right thing. It is not easy for an addicted gambler to realize himself that he is addicted so he has to stop. Unless the assistant of others.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2024, 06:54:43 AM »
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Im with you. Such people are often sensitive and unsolicited criticism is rarely constructive and brings no results. People without addictions must learn to cultivate empathy and treat addicts with understanding. And probably this is also easier said than done because usually the first reaction to the action of a person's addiction is negative. But still since those facing addiction may not fully grasp their situation, expecting them to respond positively to criticism is unrealistic.
Yeah, when it comes to helping someone through an addiction, whether gambling, drug or alcohol addiction, empathy and understanding is your greatest tool.
One needs to always understand that addiction isn't just a matter of weakness or some minor diseases that people understand easily, it's a very complex one, very complex that even the addicted person doesn't even understand the addiction or how to stop it.

Walking through an addiction is often pretty much one of the hardest thing anyone can do, at some point you may even get tired and frustrated with the outcome or the person's progress. Cos you may feel like the person isn't even listening to you or your advice.

But always remember that sometimes addiction can make a person display new characters that they didn't initially have at first, and mostly characters that are not always in their best interest and the most difficult aspect of it is that they don't even know how to quit it again.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2024, 03:17:37 PM »
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Yes, that is our difficulty in determining whether they are addicted to gambling or not, because we have to be self-aware to admit that we are very addicted to gambling. So far, curing people like that is very difficult to do.
It's not hard to determine whether a person is addicted to gambling or not. The gambler himself probably does not see it, but the people around him can see it. The hard thing to do is to provide help to someone who has a blind eye or those people who don't know how to identify the level of addiction they have. Because giving a hand to those kinds of people is hard if they don't accept any help from anyone.
From what I see in my environment, it is not that they don't get help from other people to make them aware that what they are doing has gone beyond the limits, but they have not been able to realize this, so the advice that comes to them also cannot be accepted. well.

As I said before, they must first realize and accept that they already have bad habits from their gambling activities. So it becomes difficult to bring them to their senses even though there is a lot of help coming to them.

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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2024, 03:48:37 PM »
From what I see in my environment, it is not that they don't get help from other people to make them aware that what they are doing has gone beyond the limits, but they have not been able to realize this, so the advice that comes to them also cannot be accepted. well.

As I said before, they must first realize and accept that they already have bad habits from their gambling activities. So it becomes difficult to bring them to their senses even though there is a lot of help coming to them.

When a mind is made of making money from gambling, any other secondary advices becomes useless, that's why the addicted gamblers that you see that they hardly accept advice, it's not about the environment alone, their own mindset has been made of making money, anything that comes later is none or their business.

Addiction is a big challenge for many gamblers, you can change them unless they are ready to change for good, if they don't change there is nothing an individual can do to help them.
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Re: Can an addicted gambler help his gambling addictions all by himself?
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2024, 05:18:14 PM »
Im with you. Such people are often sensitive and unsolicited criticism is rarely constructive and brings no results. People without addictions must learn to cultivate empathy and treat addicts with understanding. And probably this is also easier said than done because usually the first reaction to the action of a person's addiction is negative. But still since those facing addiction may not fully grasp their situation, expecting them to respond positively to criticism is unrealistic.
I wouldn't completely agree with you that the reactions to the actions of an addicted fellow is ALWAYS negative. If you say it's mostly negative then I'll agree but not always.
Let's assume you were once addicted to gambling and then you finally got help and quit the addiction, are you saying that you'll get a negative reflex or reaction when you confront someone who is still fighting addiction.

In such a case, I bet the first thing you'd do is put yourself in his shoes because you'd understand what it means and how it feels to be addicted and how helpless the person is.

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Im with you. Such people are often sensitive and unsolicited criticism is rarely constructive and brings no results. People without addictions must learn to cultivate empathy and treat addicts with understanding. And probably this is also easier said than done because usually the first reaction to the action of a person's addiction is negative. But still since those facing addiction may not fully grasp their situation, expecting them to respond positively to criticism is unrealistic.
I wouldn't completely agree with you that the reactions to the actions of an addicted fellow is ALWAYS negative. If you say it's mostly negative then I'll agree but not always.
Let's assume you were once addicted to gambling and then you finally got help and quit the addiction, are you saying that you'll get a negative reflex or reaction when you confront someone who is still fighting addiction.

In such a case, I bet the first thing you'd do is put yourself in his shoes because you'd understand what it means and how it feels to be addicted and how helpless the person is.

Its true, my perspective might have come off as a bit too general. Reactions can indeed vary widely. But what I was trying to say is that most of the time, people's first reaction is negative, and that's because not many folks have been through this themselves or seen someone close go through it. They can really relate and understand. But the truth is, most people haven't had that kind of close up experience with addiction. So my point is as a society we really need to learn how to be more understanding and supportive. We're not really taught how to handle these situations, how to treat people who are struggling, which is something we need to work on. We need to bring a bit more empathy.

 

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