Tyson Fury Vs Oleksandr Usyk (18 May) - discussion and prediction topic

[electronicash]

Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.

The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.

Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.

The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.

his father do the marketing stuff for Tyson in his last iirc he also wants to be among the fight card with Mike Tyson. 
this is a supportive family. probably the most supportive family that they are going to put their father on the spot to fight the opponents team.

it could be because they want more PPV sale.  and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time.  maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight. 

[robelneo]

Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.

The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.

Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.

The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.

his father do the marketing stuff for Tyson in his last iirc he also wants to be among the fight card with Mike Tyson. 
this is a supportive family. probably the most supportive family that they are going to put their father on the spot to fight the opponents team.

it could be because they want more PPV sale.  and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time.  maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.

Very supportive indeed that if you are going to fight with Tyson Fury, you're fighting the Fury family. However, even without John's antics, this still has the makings of an epic fight. Besides, Tyson Fury has proven how good he is in attracting sales in gates and PPV, and this happens to be the first undisputed heavyweight titles clash since Lennox Lewis making this an epic fight already.

[bisdak40]

it could be because they want more PPV sale.  and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time.  maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.

Even without that bullying tactics, this fight will have massive PPV buys as this is for the unified heavyweight title and the boxing community is looking forward for this to happen a long time ago. John Fury just wants to have a role on this fight which is not needed anymore.

[robelneo]

it could be because they want more PPV sale.  and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time.  maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.

Even without that bullying tactics, this fight will have massive PPV buys as this is for the unified heavyweight title and the boxing community is looking forward for this to happen a long time ago. John Fury just wants to have a role on this fight which is not needed anymore.

This is a history in the making fights, and the next generations will watch how everything unfolds here, so the Furys want to have a part of that story for the future generation, 1999 was when there was a unification of all titles, and this what makes this fight especially so whoever wins here will be the first champion after 25 years, both fighters can retire because they have completed something all the heavyweight fighters cannot in that 25 years span.

[Zed0X]

The fight is getting closer. How are you betting on this fight or have you placed your bet already? Like I said before, I'm looking at Tyson by decision and the number is attractive @3.15. Him winning by KO/TKO @4.1 is better but obviously tougher to do.

[bitbit97]

Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.

The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.

Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.

The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.

John Fury showed himself from bad side with that head kick. Not only it was a "sucker punch", but his opponent was way smaller than him. It looked like a school kid tried to bully a kid in diapers, and failed.

I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?

[robelneo]

I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?

That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.

[electronicash]

I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?

That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.

that make sense. this is one of the biggest since we have not seen in decades such as unification fight in the HW division. they wouldn't want this cancelled anymore since they waited this long for this to happen.  and to see this fight is to happen in a country that can give them millions, its gonna be a disaster if one is injured.

by bitbit97's description, it looks like there really is a kid's brawl. i wouldn't be surprised if there is another brawl after the fight.

[Baofeng]

I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?

That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.

that make sense. this is one of the biggest since we have not seen in decades such as unification fight in the HW division. they wouldn't want this cancelled anymore since they waited this long for this to happen.  and to see this fight is to happen in a country that can give them millions, its gonna be a disaster if one is injured.

by bitbit97's description, it looks like there really is a kid's brawl. i wouldn't be surprised if there is another brawl after the fight.

Not sure though if this is just to hype the fight or if John Fury is out of control. But there are news that the Fury has apologizes but the damage has been done and the Fury's should be ashamed of this action specially from John as he himself was a pro boxer and knows that this kind of acts in unacceptable. And with this, it just give Usyk more reasons to punish Fury in their fight.

Sort of to take revenge for what the Fury is doing and restore order in the HW division. There's no question that Fury is great, but with this kind of antics, many fans might be turning their backs on him.

[pawel7777]

Sort of to take revenge for what the Fury is doing and restore order in the HW division. There's no question that Fury is great, but with this kind of antics, many fans might be turning their backs on him.

Fury family are no saints, they have a lot of criminal connections. The most famous one was Tyson's former personal career adviser/promotor, Daniel Kinahan, a head of a violent drug cartel.
John Fury himself spent a couple of years behind bars for gauging a man's eye.

[LogitechMouse]

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I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.

I don't know, but basing your winner on his last fight on a non-boxer fighter is kind of off at least for me.
He's against an MMA fighter at that time, and not a full-fledged boxer so he has a huge advantage over that one.

This time, he will be up against an undefeated boxer as well who is dominating on his division. TBH, I already put my bet on Fury on this one, and also put a bet on him winning by decision.