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Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« on: July 13, 2019, 12:33:38 PM »
Bago pa lang ako sa crpto pero napapansin ko ang iba ay nagtatanong sa proyekto na kanilang sinasalihan kung may KYC ba ito. Alam natin na ang KYC o ang Know Your Customer ay nakababahala. Ngunit marami ngayon ang nangangailangan ng KYC.
Ang KYC ay risky dahil ibibigay mo ang iyong pangalan, address, birthdate, proof of residency at official ID.
Ito ay nakababahala kung may nagnakaw ng iyong personal na impormasyon at ikaw ay mabiktima ng identity theft.
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Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« on: July 13, 2019, 12:33:38 PM »


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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 03:42:43 PM »
Tama ka paps, dapat mag ingat at huwag basta basta magbibigay ng identification sa kung ano - anong project, dapat siguraduhin muna na legit yung proyekto na sasalihan at pagbibigyan ng kyc. Dahil may nabasa ako na binebenta daw ang mga nanakaw na ID sa deepweb kaya nakakatakot na, ingat ingat tayo.

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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 05:57:39 AM »
yup posible na mangyari yun kaya madami naiwas sa bounty or ICO na may KYC. Kahit nga yung sa mga airdrops na pagkuha ng info satin pwede nila manakaw yun.

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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2019, 02:08:39 PM »
isa rin ako sa hindi sumasang ayon jan e, isa sa rason kung bakit nabuo ang crypto dahil para maging anonymous ang may ari nito bakit kaya kaylangan pa ng KYC diba sapat ang crypto address lang ano masasabi nyo kaibigan
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 05:28:53 PM »
Minsan nakakatakot talaga sumali sa mga Kyc project kasi information mo ang tinataya mo doon, pero karamihan kasi ng kycproject ay napaka worth talaga kaya minsan sinusugal ko, pero bago ko sinesend,  tinatanong ko muna kung protectdd ung info ko
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2019, 12:27:11 AM »
Kung sasali ako sa KYC ay hindi passport ang ibibigay kung hindi government ID like voters ID dahil mas maraming details at mas sensitive ang passport natin. At syempre siguruhin na legal ang project para iwas nakaw sa identity natin.

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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2019, 03:48:35 AM »
Tama ka paps, dapat mag ingat at huwag basta basta magbibigay ng identification sa kung ano - anong project, dapat siguraduhin muna na legit yung proyekto na sasalihan at pagbibigyan ng kyc. Dahil may nabasa ako na binebenta daw ang mga nanakaw na ID sa deepweb kaya nakakatakot na, ingat ingat tayo.

Marahil ang tinutukoy mo ay ang Facebook data scandal na kung saan milyun-milyong personal data (Facebook profile) ng mga tao ang kinuha nang walang pahintulot kanino man?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/29/18117582/facebook-six4three-internal-documents-emails-selling-user-data
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18114228/facebook-russian-data-harvesting-documents-2014-uk-parliment-six4three

Pero mariing itinatanggi ito ni Zuckerberg, "Facebook is a business, but does it sell your personal data"...

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Zuckerberg insists Facebook has not broken the pledge. He said that users' data is kept within Facebook and the company has an ad-targeting system, which he claims is distinct from selling data.

"Based on what pages people like, what they click on, and other signals, we create categories — for example, people who like pages about gardening and live in Spain — and then we charge advertisers to show ads to that category," Zuckerberg wrote.

"We work separately with advertisers to show you relevant ads. This model can feel opaque, and we're all distrustful of systems we don't understand."

But some researchers dispute that ad-targeting is any different than selling data.

"As a data scientist, I am shocked that anyone continues to believe this claim," wrote Michael Kosinski, assistant professor at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, in a New York Times opinion piece. "Every time you click on a Facebook ad, Facebook sells data on you to that advertiser."

"This is such a basic property of online targeted advertising that it would be impossible to avoid, even if Facebook somehow wanted to."

Through the ad-targeting system, companies pay Facebook to make their ads reach a certain demographic.

Source: azcentral
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2019, 03:54:51 PM »
ayaw ko ng kyc, nakakabahala ito ngunit ito ay kailangan upang matukoy ang pagkakakilanlang ng mga namumuhunan sa proyekto. marami na kasing.mga balita at kaganapan kung saan gigagamit ang crypto currency para sa pangsariling kapakanan.
Goverment is somewhat regulating the company by requiring  their investor to pass the kyc approval.
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 12:16:07 PM »
ayaw ko ng kyc, nakakabahala ito ngunit ito ay kailangan upang matukoy ang pagkakakilanlang ng mga namumuhunan sa proyekto. marami na kasing.mga balita at kaganapan kung saan gigagamit ang crypto currency para sa pangsariling kapakanan.
Goverment is somewhat regulating the company by requiring  their investor to pass the kyc approval.
Pero kung tutuusin di naman dapat kailangan ng KYC kung bounty hunters ka lang o sumali sa mga airdrops, kaya nga may ETH address tayo at doon nalang nila ibibigay ang mga rewards natin diba? at hindi mapipigilan ng KYC ang gumagamit ng mga dual account sa kanilang proyekto, pwede ka parin makagawa ng dual account gamit ang mga gadget na sakop ng pamilya mo sa bahay kung hindi sila miyembro sa proyekto na sinalihan mo.
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2019, 03:09:43 PM »
ayaw ko ng kyc, nakakabahala ito ngunit ito ay kailangan upang matukoy ang pagkakakilanlang ng mga namumuhunan sa proyekto. marami na kasing.mga balita at kaganapan kung saan gigagamit ang crypto currency para sa pangsariling kapakanan.
Goverment is somewhat regulating the company by requiring  their investor to pass the kyc approval.
Pero kung tutuusin di naman dapat kailangan ng KYC kung bounty hunters ka lang o sumali sa mga airdrops, kaya nga may ETH address tayo at doon nalang nila ibibigay ang mga rewards natin diba? at hindi mapipigilan ng KYC ang gumagamit ng mga dual account sa kanilang proyekto, pwede ka parin makagawa ng dual account gamit ang mga gadget na sakop ng pamilya mo sa bahay kung hindi sila miyembro sa proyekto na sinalihan mo.

Gets ko ung point mo kabayan, tama nga naman na hindi dapat mag karoon ng kyc ang mga airdrop at bounty, kaya lang siguro nag kakaroo ng kyc ang mga bounty hunters, dahil may chance na mag dalawang account ang bounty hunter, and unfair ito, kung tutuusin.
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2019, 04:30:44 AM »
Gets ko ung point mo kabayan, tama nga naman na hindi dapat mag karoon ng kyc ang mga airdrop at bounty, kaya lang siguro nag kakaroo ng kyc ang mga bounty hunters, dahil may chance na mag dalawang account ang bounty hunter, and unfair ito, kung tutuusin.
Unfair man sa iba, tulad ng sinabi ko hindi talaga mapipigilan ng KYC ang multiple accounts, kahit na may KYC pa ang proyekto. Halimbawa, kung mayroon kang kaibigan or sakop ng pamilya mo na pwede mong paghiraman ng ID niya para yun ang pangverify mo makagawa lang ng higit pa sa isang account,  tapos ganoon din gawin mo sa iba mo pang account, diba magagawa natin yan.. maraming paraan kung gugustuhin kaibigan.
At Most of the time, walang power ang mga bounty managers sa KYC process kaya hindi porket legit na yung bounty manager or project nila, safe na agad ang identity natin. At di natin alam kung hanggang sa project lang ba talaga nila ginagamit yung identity natin or kung may iba pang dahilan kung bakit kailangan nila ng KYC? . At sana nga yung may KYC project ay ginagamit lang nila sa kabutihan at hindi maimpluwensyahan sa kasamaan ang mga identity ng mga user nila. Kaya mag ingat parin tayo sa ating sinasalihan at baka maya't maya may tumukhang na sa atin, kaibigan or sakop ng pamilya natin na tayo ang may gawa na wala tayong kaalam- alam.
Maganda ang KYC kaso lang napaka-ironic na ang goal ng crypto ay trustless at anonymous..
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2019, 04:06:43 AM »
isa rin ako sa hindi sumasang ayon jan e, isa sa rason kung bakit nabuo ang crypto dahil para maging anonymous ang may ari nito bakit kaya kaylangan pa ng KYC diba sapat ang crypto address lang ano masasabi nyo kaibigan
Di naman talaga kailangan yang  KYC, kung tutuusin pwede naman magtagumpay ang project at kumita ng bilyon bilyong halaga kahit na wala itong KYC katulad sa Facebook, kumita at magtagumpay ang project sa dami ng mga viewers at users nito.
Siguro kung mag-aaplay ka ng trabaho online maaari silang magpa-KYC, nang sa ganoon malalaman nila kung may bad record ka ba or wala, at karapat dapat ka bang tatanggapin nila.
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2019, 04:40:42 AM »
Tama ka paps, dapat mag ingat at huwag basta basta magbibigay ng identification sa kung ano - anong project, dapat siguraduhin muna na legit yung proyekto na sasalihan at pagbibigyan ng kyc. Dahil may nabasa ako na binebenta daw ang mga nanakaw na ID sa deepweb kaya nakakatakot na, ingat ingat tayo.

Marahil ang tinutukoy mo ay ang Facebook data scandal na kung saan milyun-milyong personal data (Facebook profile) ng mga tao ang kinuha nang walang pahintulot kanino man?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/29/18117582/facebook-six4three-internal-documents-emails-selling-user-data
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18114228/facebook-russian-data-harvesting-documents-2014-uk-parliment-six4three

Pero mariing itinatanggi ito ni Zuckerberg, "Facebook is a business, but does it sell your personal data"...

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Zuckerberg insists Facebook has not broken the pledge. He said that users' data is kept within Facebook and the company has an ad-targeting system, which he claims is distinct from selling data.

"Based on what pages people like, what they click on, and other signals, we create categories — for example, people who like pages about gardening and live in Spain — and then we charge advertisers to show ads to that category," Zuckerberg wrote.

"We work separately with advertisers to show you relevant ads. This model can feel opaque, and we're all distrustful of systems we don't understand."

But some researchers dispute that ad-targeting is any different than selling data.

"As a data scientist, I am shocked that anyone continues to believe this claim," wrote Michael Kosinski, assistant professor at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, in a New York Times opinion piece. "Every time you click on a Facebook ad, Facebook sells data on you to that advertiser."

"This is such a basic property of online targeted advertising that it would be impossible to avoid, even if Facebook somehow wanted to."

Through the ad-targeting system, companies pay Facebook to make their ads reach a certain demographic.

Source: azcentral
Kung totoo po ito, Nagagawa nga mga kabayan ni Facebook ang pagkuha ng mga data sa kanyang mga users na walang pahintulot. At alam natin na ang facebook ay di kailangan ng  KYC, may freedom po tayo kung ilan ang gagawin nating mga account, lehitimo, billion ang users ng facebook at maraming nagtiwala. Pero bakit may lumabas parin na ganitong mga balita? lalo na siguro sa meroong mga KYC na project hindi po tayo magiging safe?
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Re: Nakakabahala ba ang KYC? Bakit iniiwasan ng iba ito?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2019, 03:59:59 AM »
Bago pa lang ako sa crpto pero napapansin ko ang iba ay nagtatanong sa proyekto na kanilang sinasalihan kung may KYC ba ito. Alam natin na ang KYC o ang Know Your Customer ay nakababahala. Ngunit marami ngayon ang nangangailangan ng KYC.
Ang KYC ay risky dahil ibibigay mo ang iyong pangalan, address, birthdate, proof of residency at official ID.
Ito ay nakababahala kung may nagnakaw ng iyong personal na impormasyon at ikaw ay mabiktima ng identity theft.
Kaya mag-ingat tayo mga kabayan sa ating mga sinasalihan.

Tama ka jan, nakakatakot talaga sumali sa nga bounty na nanghihingi ng KYC, mahirap na baka manakaw pa personal identity ko at magamit sa masama at ikaw pa ang makasuhan.

 

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