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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: pawel7777 on February 09, 2024, 10:06:53 PM
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Do we have any policy on whether copying topics from other forums are allowed if the poster gives credit (and links) to the original post?
Example: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316976.0
This is just a copy/pasted content but the poster links to the original topic.
Since the poster does not claim to be the author of that post, it's hard to call that plagiarism, but on the other hand, it's not necessarily a fair way of earning benefits off someone else's effort. By benefits I mean increasing post count/activity that helps in ranking up, earning karma points or maybe getting paid by the signature campaign.
Then again, moving interesting topics from other places could improve the forum and the level of discussion.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
If the user is copy pasting from other posts on our forum, post his profile below and the post copied + original post , change the color to red
but if the user is copy/pasting from another source, post his profile below and the post copied + original post.
We will act to warn and then punish users,
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I think this falls under plagiarism and an offense for only copying someone else's post even though he included the source.
This can reduce his karma and the moderator can certainly mark it as plagiarism.
No effort was made like doing Re-write, he copied everything.
Then what will be discussed because all the answers are already there as in the original post.
This is only done by a slacker who doesn't want to give his own opinion and tries to create a new and more unique thread.
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There are rules here fall on that category and @hair is actually on point with the quoted post. Unfortunately, that's a quite a plagiarism, the OP could ask few more questions, but choose not to. In that sense, his really intention is just to bring here the topic and claim the credit or karma (if others will give)
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Do we have any policy on whether copying topics from other forums are allowed if the poster gives credit (and links) to the original post?
This should be considered plagiarism unless you as teleported member made the same post in different forum and if you are not doing it for all your posts.
Editing post and adding link with name of original member who created post is not enough for posts like this.
There are rules in forum against this and I see some members are getting strikes and warning from moderators for doing this.
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It looks like the topic created has been edited and added a link to the source where he copied and pasted it. But it happened due to negligence in posting, so I still consider it something that must be held responsible.
In some cases, this kind of palgiarism must be warned first. If the user is proven to have made improvements in his attitude, then that is good. but if the user continues to copy paste continuously, then it would be better to give appropriate punishment.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
Thanks. It makes sense to allow starting topics inspired by other forums, provided that there's a minimum effort of at least phrasing them in topic starter's own words (+ linking to the original).
Allowing blatant copy/pasting would open the door to automated bot-posting and could turn this forum into trash.
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Two forums can have the same familiar topic but there should be some rephrasing like what's trending news about the market or a coming big fight in boxing or a football team, even if the creator of the topics are the same it should not be copied pasted, there should be some rephrasing or as much as possible different content it's a big flag if the topic is 100% the same on both platforms, those who teleported members knows this rule but everybody should adhere to the rules of plagiarism, it can get the ban of your account on both forums.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
If the user is copy pasting from other posts on our forum, post his profile below and the post copied + original post , change the color to red
but if the user is copy/pasting from another source, post his profile below and the post copied + original post.
We will act to warn and then punish users,
Is this only applied to individuals not posting services or their own content? For example, my managers thread is a direct copy/paste and if I am looking for certain services i post on both forums. I am not copying others work, and I understand the difference between what this user is doing and what I am asking. Just making sure I haven't broken a rule myself.
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even if the creator of the topics are the same it should not be copied pasted, there should be some rephrasing or as much as possible different content it's a big flag if the topic is 100% the same on both platforms, those who teleported members knows this rule but everybody should adhere to the rules of plagiarism, it can get the ban of your account on both forums.
That's nonsense. You can't plagiarise yourself, can you? So what exactly could you get banned for?
I see absolutely nothing wrong in duplicating YOUR OWN content in different places. In such case asking people to rephrase their own words would be silly.
Of course there will be problems if your account is not teleported and it's not obvious that both topics have been created by you.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
I have written some topics about tricks and tips on bitcointalk forum and also have some translations about this kind of things.
So now my question is if I copied paste here those post of mine from others forums with the source links is that also act like plagiarism?
Yes, I will include some new word to posting here but it won't be too big.
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I have written some topics about tricks and tips on bitcointalk forum and also have some translations about this kind of things.
So now my question is if I copied paste here those post of mine from others forums with the source links is that also act like plagiarism?
Yes, I will include some new word to posting here but it won't be too big.
Since it's yours, you don't need to post a link from another forum, you can directly post it here, but of course, don't just copy all the text; change it based on your preference. No one will accuse you of plagiarism when you make it in the first place.
I see absolutely nothing wrong in duplicating YOUR OWN content in different places. In such case asking people to rephrase their own words would be silly.
Sure, but if the content is something like asking opinions, you could rephrase it, unlike those posts stating facts like charts, list of tables, developer's content like API/codes, etc.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
I have written some topics about tricks and tips on bitcointalk forum and also have some translations about this kind of things.
So now my question is if I copied paste here those post of mine from others forums with the source links is that also act like plagiarism?
Yes, I will include some new word to posting here but it won't be too big.
Just to be on the safe side I’ll advise that you add reference to your thread in the other forum - some might take it as plagiarism since you’ll be copying parts of it directly (in the case were some modifications were done for the thread).
I saw a case recently - but I had to give the Op a link to the post he created in btt so that he can use it as a reference - if he had left the post like that despite him being the creator in a different forum he’ll still receive some punishment but not as severe as when you’re copying one that does not belong to you.
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Since the poster does not claim to be the author of that post, it's hard to call that plagiarism, but on the other hand, it's not necessarily a fair way of earning benefits off someone else's effort.
It's plagiarism even if the author of the post doesn't consider it as his own. I posted in that thread and I told the author of the thread that this thing is plagiarism and doing it can be harmful for his account.
He admits that they did that without knowing and feels guilty for that. He also apologized for the thread but he's unable to delete the thread and that's why I told him to clear the thread and lock it or rewrite the topic in your own way.
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in my point of view, it is Plagiarism, he copied and pasted without writing his/her perspective. we don't allow the kind of post like that (full copy-paste). what happens if many members are doing the same act?
IMO it's better to create your own words, you can use references from other sources but don't fully copy-paste
Thanks for verifying this, as I don't do plagiarism but next time you find me saying these words yours to anyone asking this question, but don't worry I will rewrite the words in my own way or will quote your post haha. Actually I am quite amazed to see this also because on BTT I saw many members copying and pasting the whole content and giving the reference link at the bottom saves them.
Well, I understood that it comes under the plagiarism category but what about those who copy 5 lines from a blog, or let's say a half blog but instead of just pasting them directly here, they are pasting them inside the quote tags, like the following but with source link also.
sample post copied from blog
Is this also comes under plagiarism?
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Do we have any policy on whether copying topics from other forums are allowed if the poster gives credit (and links) to the original post? Then again, moving interesting topics from other places could improve the forum and the level of discussion.
Usually copying posts verbatim from other forum or sites should be construed as plagiarism. Now, what if that post in the other forum was made by the same member who is already teleported here? I think the policy is that there should be reference plus the poster has to make some comments on it further telling us something more on the topic because for all we know Google or any search engine algorithm can flag it as just another copy paste. With the way things are...I am sure that there is now a need for clarification from the forum here on this matter so we can be guided accordingly. Plagiarism is not something that should be tolerated and must be avoided at all cost.
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Is this only applied to individuals not posting services or their own content? For example, my managers thread is a direct copy/paste and if I am looking for certain services i post on both forums. I am not copying others work, and I understand the difference between what this user is doing and what I am asking. Just making sure I haven't broken a rule myself.
This is not a category of plagiarism, a project owner or even a BM who has to repost his writing here certainly does not violate the forum rules. The point is that if someone copy/paste someone else's writing into their writing, that is plagiarism.
So now my question is if I copied paste here those post of mine from others forums with the source links is that also act like plagiarism?
Yes, I will include some new word to posting here but it won't be too big.
It's not plagiarism, because you are rewriting what you have written in another forum. but in some cases, there are members who will be able to report the case as happened here
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62494.msg1466623#msg1466623
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315133.0
it's better to create fresh topics
but what about those who copy 5 lines from a blog, or let's say a half blog but instead of just pasting them directly here, they are pasting them inside the quote tags, like the following but with source link also.
you need to change the color to red if you are not the author
you can read more here https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62494.msg359087#msg359087
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In support of what everyone else have said, outrightly copying and pasting a post belong to another person outside the forum, even if the user references the original post by sharing a link to it, but fail to include his or her opinion concerning the same post he or she copied, and as well, ask the community's opinion as well, then, that is a clear plagiarism, nothing else it can be called.
I myself do sometimes copy posts from other sources, but I always make sure to do it in such a manner that the post I copied looks like it's a reference to my own point I'm making, or question I am asking the community, I don't just copy people's post and post word for word, without saying anything any thing of my own, that is clearly wrong and a clear plagiarism.
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you need to change the color to red if you are not the author
you can read more here https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62494.msg359087#msg359087
Got it, thanks for the reply, from now on I will be careful to keep this rule in mind because I used to do quotations a lot on BTT, but less here. With time and familiarity with the topics, I might start a little quotation here as well, for example answering to a newbie's question by quoting someone else post. I thought the quote would do the task but next time I won't forget to make the color of the text RED.
Thanks again.