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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2024, 11:43:08 PM »
The government can only suppress it, but they can't stop crypto, because crypto currency is not centralized to only one government.
But in a country the government can set some strict rules to stop crypto market...
True. The government only limits or makes a pressure on the people who use crypto coins. But the government can't totally stop crypto market because it is impossible. Although the government closes all the centralized exchanges but we still have many decentralized exchanges. How the government stop decentralized exchanges if they don't know where the base of the exchanges.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #106 on: March 16, 2024, 03:11:07 PM »
The government can only suppress it, but they can't stop crypto, because crypto currency is not centralized to only one government.
But in a country the government can set some strict rules to stop crypto market...
True. The government only limits or makes a pressure on the people who use crypto coins. But the government can't totally stop crypto market because it is impossible. Although the government closes all the centralized exchanges but we still have many decentralized exchanges. How the government stop decentralized exchanges if they don't know where the base of the exchanges.

Cryptocurrency is the technology of the future, no one can resist the technology of the future. Even though the government is restricting it, crypto lovers still carry out transactions with bitcoin and altcoins. That's why the government should allow it to take taxes from crypto transactions.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #107 on: March 17, 2024, 11:32:55 AM »
Cryptocurrency is the technology of the future, no one can resist the technology of the future. Even though the government is restricting it, crypto lovers still carry out transactions with bitcoin and altcoins. That's why the government should allow it to take taxes from crypto transactions.
Yes, you are right, with cryptocurrency it can be a bridge for the process of changing physical paper currency into digital form and as technology develops in the financial world, it will be easier to carry out transactions wherever you are, no need to carry a wallet anymore, you just need to use one. The smartphone you own can be used to buy whatever you want.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2024, 07:46:07 PM »
I agree because blockchain technology offers freedom and anonymity. But remember, all our transactions are recorded there. Actually, blockchain is not completely anonymous, unless we use private coins in transactions. Legality or not, crypto will still work.

What makes the blockchain not completely anonymous is, in fact, not located within the blockchain itself. Yes, transactions are saved, but in order to reach the performer, you need to connect other tools that have nothing to do with the blockchain. Therefore, in my opinion, it is not entirely correct to say that this is blockchain exactly what is not anonymous.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #109 on: March 18, 2024, 02:34:04 PM »
I agree because blockchain technology offers freedom and anonymity. But remember, all our transactions are recorded there. Actually, blockchain is not completely anonymous, unless we use private coins in transactions. Legality or not, crypto will still work.

What makes the blockchain not completely anonymous is, in fact, not located within the blockchain itself. Yes, transactions are saved, but in order to reach the performer, you need to connect other tools that have nothing to do with the blockchain. Therefore, in my opinion, it is not entirely correct to say that this is blockchain exactly what is not anonymous.

Anonymous or not, it has no effect for me as a small investor, because I only see profits. Regarding anonymity, I honestly don't care, because my intention to invest in crypto is only to make a profit and earn income from the crypto world. Maybe everyone has their own perspective and opinion.
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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #110 on: March 18, 2024, 05:02:48 PM »
The nature of the use of p2p was to ensure that buying and selling exist directly with the persons involved without the interference of a third party to sabotage the deal between them, so when we are considering cryptocurrencies as a whole, we should ensure to avoid anything that will try to involve the hand of government into whatsoever thing we are doing, this is why there's a need for our privacy and security and with bitcoin, which is decentralized, there's no how the government could interfere into anything you are doing if you yourself don't give them the permission needed from the start through the use of centralized exchanges.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #111 on: March 18, 2024, 06:28:21 PM »
The nature of the use of p2p was to ensure that buying and selling exist directly with the persons involved without the interference of a third party to sabotage the deal between them, so when we are considering cryptocurrencies as a whole, we should ensure to avoid anything that will try to involve the hand of government into whatsoever thing we are doing, this is why there's a need for our privacy and security and with bitcoin, which is decentralized, there's no how the government could interfere into anything you are doing if you yourself don't give them the permission needed from the start through the use of centralized exchanges.
The problem is that as soon as we start transferring crypto into fiat, this is where the government will get involved. So it turns out that crypto can exist without government intervention, but we cannot spend the earned profit.And for the chain to close, it is necessary to be able to pay directly with crypto, and even if this happens, it will not happen soon.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #112 on: March 22, 2024, 04:19:58 PM »
The nature of the use of p2p was to ensure that buying and selling exist directly with the persons involved without the interference of a third party to sabotage the deal between them, so when we are considering cryptocurrencies as a whole, we should ensure to avoid anything that will try to involve the hand of government into whatsoever thing we are doing, this is why there's a need for our privacy and security and with bitcoin, which is decentralized, there's no how the government could interfere into anything you are doing if you yourself don't give them the permission needed from the start through the use of centralized exchanges.

I agree with you, but let me say three things. Lack of knowledge, user convenience and centralized exchanges. These three things are the worst things (besides scams) that can happen to a user. The lack of technical knowledge on the part of the user, and the laziness to learn in many cases, causes users to use centralized exchanges, even if they have to hand over their personal data, at that point, the country's government knows who the user is, how many cryptocurrencies they have, and how they use them.

Having bank accounts in more cryptocurrency-friendly countries is not a crime, in several countries taxes are 0%. This, along with the use of decentralized exchanges, can give us an idea of ​​what to do in these cases, but we must always take into account the bureaucracy inherent in this type of banking solutions.
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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #113 on: March 22, 2024, 06:21:18 PM »
The nature of the use of p2p was to ensure that buying and selling exist directly with the persons involved without the interference of a third party to sabotage the deal between them, so when we are considering cryptocurrencies as a whole, we should ensure to avoid anything that will try to involve the hand of government into whatsoever thing we are doing, this is why there's a need for our privacy and security and with bitcoin, which is decentralized, there's no how the government could interfere into anything you are doing if you yourself don't give them the permission needed from the start through the use of centralized exchanges.
In response to this, decentralized exchanges really prioritize privacy, but in market reality, CEX exchanges are the ones who win the competition... so here I see that there are no more people coming to cryptocurrency who prioritize privacy than the people coming to cryptocurrencies that prioritize money. CEX does not give money, they just provide a good service but our privacy becomes a prisoner there. The government has a high probability of taking control of our data through the help of CEX.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #114 on: March 22, 2024, 07:03:01 PM »
The nature of the use of p2p was to ensure that buying and selling exist directly with the persons involved without the interference of a third party to sabotage the deal between them, so when we are considering cryptocurrencies as a whole, we should ensure to avoid anything that will try to involve the hand of government into whatsoever thing we are doing, this is why there's a need for our privacy and security and with bitcoin, which is decentralized, there's no how the government could interfere into anything you are doing if you yourself don't give them the permission needed from the start through the use of centralized exchanges.
The problem is that as soon as we start transferring crypto into fiat, this is where the government will get involved. So it turns out that crypto can exist without government intervention, but we cannot spend the earned profit.And for the chain to close, it is necessary to be able to pay directly with crypto, and even if this happens, it will not happen soon.


That's true, money problems occur if we transfer to fiat, the government will interfere there, that's why legality or government permission is needed. although there are ways that can be done, but it is better if bitcoin is allowed as an investment because there are more and more crypto lovers and this also becomes income for the state if crypto transactions occur to fiat which is subject to tax.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #115 on: March 22, 2024, 10:38:04 PM »
That's true, money problems occur if we transfer to fiat, the government will interfere there, that's why legality or government permission is needed. although there are ways that can be done, but it is better if bitcoin is allowed as an investment because there are more and more crypto lovers and this also becomes income for the state if crypto transactions occur to fiat which is subject to tax.
It is natural that if the government wants to earn extra money from trading crypto to fiat, it will try to collect taxes, because this is also used to control the circulation of incoming money so that there will be no inflation of fiat currency in certain countries.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #116 on: March 22, 2024, 11:27:49 PM »
What makes the blockchain not completely anonymous is, in fact, not located within the blockchain itself. Yes, transactions are saved, but in order to reach the performer, you need to connect other tools that have nothing to do with the blockchain. Therefore, in my opinion, it is not entirely correct to say that this is blockchain exactly what is not anonymous.
What do you mean exactly? Do you think blockchain isn't anonymous?
Well, it may be not 100% anonymous, there is transaction details, we can track the address and the amount to transfer. However, it can be anonymous if we use mixer technology. I think we can try this services if we want to be real anonymous.


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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #117 on: March 22, 2024, 11:46:37 PM »
What do you mean exactly? Do you think blockchain isn't anonymous?
Well, it may be not 100% anonymous, there is transaction details, we can track the address and the amount to transfer. However, it can be anonymous if we use mixer technology. I think we can try this services if we want to be real anonymous.
That's right, with a mixer all transactions on the blockchain can be more anonymous so it is often used for money laundering, but you need to know that if you want to make a purchase at a shop that accepts bitcoin as one of the payments, they will know the wallet you have and know the number of bitcoins you have. have so that transactions are no longer anonymous.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #118 on: March 23, 2024, 12:11:04 AM »
It can exist, but for how long? If my government tells me that I will go to jail if I use it, then I would probably stop using it, and even if ever do, it would be for transactions and very quick, but most likely I would not. Which would hurt me a lot believe me, I get paid in crypto, so if I suddenly stopped getting paid, I have no salary and my whole life would be ruined, but I still would stop. I rather go work a fast food joint making minimum wage then have the possibility of jail over my head. So it "can" be used, but would it? I am sure there are plenty of people like me who would stop using it.

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Re: Crypto markets can exist without government permission
« Reply #119 on: March 23, 2024, 04:40:41 AM »
It can exist, but for how long? If my government tells me that I will go to jail if I use it, then I would probably stop using it, and even if ever do, it would be for transactions and very quick, but most likely I would not. Which would hurt me a lot believe me, I get paid in crypto, so if I suddenly stopped getting paid, I have no salary and my whole life would be ruined, but I still would stop. I rather go work a fast food joint making minimum wage then have the possibility of jail over my head. So it "can" be used, but would it? I am sure there are plenty of people like me who would stop using it.

Well, the truth is that it is a respectable answer, perhaps in your country it is something else, there are more opportunities, in my case it is more Difficult , I work with Crypto, in fact I am a professional and I do not have a job as such because in my Country there is no Opportunities , and when you ask for a job in Europe, they simply don't stop me just because I'm from that Country If the government prohibits cryptocurrencies, I wouldn't let them, because the Government always wants to benefit in everything, and it doesn't Provide facilities, for For example, they take away our basic services, just so that the Capital of the country is well, that they tell me right now that they are Giving me a job and so I have to renounce my nationality I would do it Because if I had more I would have no doubts, when there is family that You must Maintain it , I think that one thing that matters most to you is your Well-being.
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