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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2024, 09:51:56 PM »
All over the world the sharing formula is always inequality and that has been causing problems the whole world. And that is also the highest cause of the poverty in the world because the politicians and leaders refuse to share the national wealth, and both the national resources equal with the citizens but instead they they use them to inrich themselves and forgetting the poor to be more poorer. And the poor are always angry but they are all laughing and smiling when they are all gathered together to watch sports.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2024, 10:31:49 PM »
On my understanding I can fully said that sports are what gives people fun and its what makes people feel better, just like we know when we are at a film hall watching football match we also fell happy even when our team are losing we communicate with our fellow team members in the hall and that's what makes sports interesting.
But when it comes to money, money is what people need to take care of them selfs and their responsibilities.
And again, money can never unite a country because some people can have money and still do evil things because they are not contented.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2024, 10:43:53 PM »
Well, there are many things that unite the world, there is the international station that is in space.  Another is the soaps in the 90s, a couple of countries at war came to a truce to see the soaps, it is true, it happened.

As for the comparison with money, it seems a little obvious to me, I mean, it is a common interest.

Football has many times achieved confrontations on the playing field in a peaceful way.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2024, 03:48:23 PM »
I think money and football are not enough to unite a nation together. Just as yahoo62278 had said, money separates people and football is just for entertainment purposes. Football is just for fun and does not last long for the time being and in some cases, causes little fracas. For instance, I could remember year's back during one of the competition years back when an African country won their counterparts in the same continental cup. After that match, the citizens of the other country that lost the match began to attack the country men of their winner in their own country and this was televised and even in this just concluded AFCON similar thing repeated itself where by players were threatened to not step into their country or they should leave if they are there already.

Money on the other hand is most times a tussle for power.  Nations rising against nations as a result for their interest in the natural resources of the other nations either to drag or to sanction them against trading or exploring what they have for financial gains.
I think love is the uniting factor to sustain relationship amongst nations and individuals all over the world.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2024, 04:07:22 PM »
I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended.

Why not mention the countries?
If you're thinking of the Biafra war then Pele didn't stop a thing, the war went on for a year after the match.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/did-pele-and-santos-really-stop-a-war-in-nigeria-in-1969/yhomuw4g6fyr1fdvda0pu58b3
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According to Pele's team-mates Gilmar and Coutinho, the ceasefire barely lasted for the duration of the game; as the side's plane took off, they could hear from inside the craft the sound of gunshots that marked the resumption of conflict.

If you think of the Christmas truce from ww1 that wasn't about football it was about Christmas and again didn't last long.

Also, football was itself a reason for war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

Let's not even mention hooliganism, one football match and whole Europe goes full medieval again.
If you want a thing that unites people it's music, google Enter Sandman and Moscow.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2024, 04:10:52 PM »
So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.

Obviously, football unites the world. Money doesn`t unite people. Experiences have shown that some friends went apart because of money. The feeling of Mr. A having money and Mr. B not having is capable of creating disparity between people unlike football where people don`t attach social class when they watch the game. Football is a universal language that transcends linguistic and cultural barriers. The passion for football is shared by millions of people worldwide, creating a common ground for interaction and love. Fans can develop a sense of camaraderie with fellow supporters, regardless of their nationality or background.

This is true when you consider events like the FIFA World Cup which bring together nations from around the globe to compete on the same stage. These tournaments foster a sense of unity and sportsmanship among countries that may have political or social differences like the instance you gave.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2024, 06:14:56 PM »
So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.

Obviously, football unites the world. Money doesn`t unite people. Experiences have shown that some friends went apart because of money. The feeling of Mr. A having money and Mr. B not having is capable of creating disparity between people unlike football where people don`t attach social class when they watch the game. Football is a universal language that transcends linguistic and cultural barriers. The passion for football is shared by millions of people worldwide, creating a common ground for interaction and love. Fans can develop a sense of camaraderie with fellow supporters, regardless of their nationality or background.

This is true when you consider events like the FIFA World Cup which bring together nations from around the globe to compete on the same stage. These tournaments foster a sense of unity and sportsmanship among countries that may have political or social differences like the instance you gave.
You make sense for this comment. One karma for you. Many people are saying money is the only thing that can unite the world because money can buy everything and make people happy while football is just a feeling which is only to entertain. And as you said money has created and caused a lot of enemies in the world but football has brought people together for excitement and making people to forget their sorrow.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2024, 08:44:29 PM »
So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
The thing with money is, it brings power. And when you test power, you crave four more. The hunger for power creates conflicts between people and the more powerful they get the more conflict they brings. Money could never be a solution to unite the whole world. If that was the case, there will be no conflict over the world and there would be no poor people suffering. It's all about money and power which brings difficulties and conflicts.

I won't say that I am an avid fan of football ( I think you were referring to soccer). But when people enjoy something and share a mutual feelings toward that, I think that could easily unite people. Also I don't want to be biased about anything. Having different choices amongst players could also create conflicts amongst people. So it's not the perfect solution either. But it is what it is. If you take it as something good it becomes something good.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2024, 09:48:51 PM »
So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
The thing with money is, it brings power. And when you test power, you crave four more. The hunger for power creates conflicts between people and the more powerful they get the more conflict they brings. Money could never be a solution to unite the whole world. If that was the case, there will be no conflict over the world and there would be no poor people suffering. It's all about money and power which brings difficulties and conflicts.

I won't say that I am an avid fan of football ( I think you were referring to soccer). But when people enjoy something and share a mutual feelings toward that, I think that could easily unite people. Also I don't want to be biased about anything. Having different choices amongst players could also create conflicts amongst people. So it's not the perfect solution either. But it is what it is. If you take it as something good it becomes something good.
If people weren't so greedy the world would be better off. That's not going to happen though. Always going to be poor people suffering as well because in general people are just out for themselves. I see beggars on the street and want to help now and then, but my issue is so many liars are beggars as well. By that I mean there are groups that dress up dirty and go to street corners begging all day, then get picked up and go party all night from the money they begged for. They're not really poor, just lazy.

Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2024, 10:24:17 PM »
All over the world the sharing formula is always inequality and that has been causing problems the whole world. And that is also the highest cause of the poverty in the world because the politicians and leaders refuse to share the national wealth, and both the national resources equal with the citizens but instead they they use them to inrich themselves and forgetting the poor to be more poorer. And the poor are always angry but they are all laughing and smiling when they are all gathered together to watch sports.

That is why I said money sometimes is worth causes conflicts among countries and states let say for example as you said about politician and when they seems not to look over the country and her citizens it could cause and conflict resolution were the citizens would start fighting for their right by so doing it has cause serious war and division within the country. But most times football and any form of entertainments is what brought countries and nations together.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2024, 10:24:47 PM »
This thread is getting intense because from the different comments from the beginning, everyone was given their POV and from their experienced.
Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.

Neither unite the world. Money usually separates people and football is just entertainment.
Yahoo my man, how do you say about these statements. The way I look at it you were contradicting the two because at first you said neither the two but now you have chosen one. Can you put more highlights on the part you have chosen?

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2024, 12:43:37 AM »
This thread is getting intense because from the different comments from the beginning, everyone was given their POV and from their experienced.
Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.

Neither unite the world. Money usually separates people and football is just entertainment.
Yahoo my man, how do you say about these statements. The way I look at it you were contradicting the two because at first you said neither the two but now you have chosen one. Can you put more highlights on the part you have chosen?
I don't feel it contradicts anywhere. Sports brings people together, friends who are at one another's house for say a Superbowl party or hanging out having a few beers and enjoying a game, but that's not uniting the world. Not even close!!! So it brings people together but not the world.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2024, 02:15:37 AM »
Football is a sport that unites everyone in the world because in my environment Football is a sport that is very popular with people.
Money can also unite everyone and everyone needs money, but sometimes money makes people arrogant and hostile, such as when it comes to family inheritance.

Football gives me goodness because I can sweat, joke with campus friends and compete with my own skills in handling the ball.
Money is very sensitive, especially many of my college friends who gamble and sometimes they borrow money from me to gamble but I don't give them loans.Because if I lend money to gamble to my friend and my friend doesn't pay it back because he lost the gambling then he and I will definitely be enemies.

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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2024, 06:59:47 PM »
I see beggars on the street and want to help now and then, but my issue is so many liars are beggars as well. By that I mean there are groups that dress up dirty and go to street corners begging all day, then get picked up and go party all night from the money they begged for. They're not really poor, just lazy.
Well, I don't think of people that way. I am not very religious, but I try to follow as much as possible. In my religion, it is said that when a person comes to you for a need, they should never leave empty-handed. It is also said that, when you leave someone empty-handed, that day can come to you as well. Maybe not today, not to you, but to your future generation. The role could be reversed.

So I try to do all the good I can. Sorry for bringing up religion here but I follow this and I think it is the best. Whether someone is in need or they are just impersonating or faking it, I am giving it to them so that I can feel that I have done something good. And I think I will get something as a reward for that from god.

I will do my part and god will do his part to reward me. If someone is lying, they will also get their punishment from god as well. If I stop helping people just because some dude decides to scam me, then I will not be able to help someone when they are really in need of help.

Sorry for the long reply but that's just how I feel.

And lastly, everything could be used for good or bad depending on people using it. but as you said, people will always be greedy and they will search for their advantage. And they will use it to create conflicts.
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Re: Football and Money Which Unite the World?
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2024, 08:58:02 PM »
But most times football and any form of entertainments is what brought countries and nations together.

Most times...cause this:

can turn into this:


I wonder how was football uniting those:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot

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On 1 February 2012, a massive riot occurred at Port Said Stadium in Port Said, Egypt, following an Egyptian Premier League football match between Al Masry and Al Ahly. Seventy-four people were killed and more than 500 injured after thousands of Al Masry fans stormed the stadium stands and the pitch following a 3–1 victory by their club and violently attacked Ahly fans, using clubs, stones, machetes, knives, bottles, and fireworks, trapping them inside the Al Ahly partition of the stadium.
Death(s) 72 Al-Ahly fans, 1 Al-Masry fan, 1 police officer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanjuruhan_Stadium_disaster
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On 1 October 2022, a fatal human crush occurred following an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia.[4] Following a loss by home side Arema to rivals Persebaya Surabaya, around 3,000 Arema supporters invaded the pitch.[5][6] Police said the rioting supporters attacked the players and the team officials. Deaths   135

I don't feel it contradicts anywhere. Sports brings people together, friends who are at one another's house for say a Superbowl party or hanging out having a few beers and enjoying a game, but that's not uniting the world. Not even close!!! So it brings people together but not the world.

I've always been curious, how comes that hooliganism is so low in the US compared to EU?
I've seen NFL or NBA fans being just as hardcore when defending their teams but not once I've ever seen in stadium in the US the crowd going , like I said, fully medieval as I've seen it numerous times live here as I've been caught in one or two incidents myself.
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