Do professional traders lose money?

[RockBell]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Lost can not be avoided even as an expert  their is now that you can aviod losing money, expertise go with daily experience because you keep learning everyday. And from your daily experience you can solve any similar challenge in the future. And that is why they advice everyone to keep learning and taking serious note of what is currently happening. And I don't believe in professionalism in bitcoin because of the continuous learning.

[Gurujebs]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

What kind of question is this? 

Loss is constant in trading but as a professional, your level of loss in trading should be minimal. You can't escape it because stop loss are been use and they get triggered most of the time. So even if you don't loss without it, the market can be choppy and such losses accumulated can give you loss buy as I said, it's going to be minimal, it wouldn't be that large.

If the trader that happened to be a future trader where liquidity are dried up fast, it's one of the biggest place trader lost money the most because when they lost in spot trading, they can decide to hold to see for a market reversal but futures, the account turn to zero instantly especially if they don't have enough money to cover liquidation.

[Stable090]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It’s really a funny question to me, because some is called professional doesn’t mean the person won’t lose money when they trading, just that they will know how they will minimize their risk, they will make sure the amount they are winning is far more than the amount they are losing. In trading everyone do lose money, but when you notice your lose is more than your win, then just make sure you stop trading and work on the strategy which you are using, you will have to change your strategy, because in trading, your loss shouldn’t be more than your profit.

[PX-Z]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Every traders experience loss even on the pro level because you cannot predict the market. There are some ways and tools that might help you to minimize your loss but there's no tools that will help you to avoid losses in trading.

[Altcoin1998$]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

In the case of trading, it is not only non-professional traders who will eat losses, but in this case, professional traders also face big losses sometimes. However, in the case of professional traders, the amount of loss is less than that of non-professional traders. But non-professional traders don't know about some important tips of trading and suffer huge losses. Before trading, if you get proper knowledge about trading like professional traders, then you can reduce the amount of loss.

[jeraldskie11]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.

[Litzki1990]

As long as trading is concern being it professional or unprofessional both of them loss money as a trader,you can makes a lot of money 💰  as a professional trader and as well very easy to loss everything  just a day the things that separate professional trader from unprofessional is how well they manage their  risk while trading ,one thing a professional trader is to identify strategies that  wins more money 💰 than they lose many fail because strategies fail to adapt

That's right, we can see someone's ability to trade. If he is professional he will definitely get a profit from his trading results and if he is not professional in his trading then he will get a loss from his trading results.

So in trading on the crypto market we must try to avoid losses, in fact everyone doesn't want losses to fall on them.

That means you mean a professional trader will only make profit and never lose. If you think so then you are wrong because no matter how professional a trader is he does not buy any coin for sure but he buys coins with a possibility. There is a big difference between doing something with certainty and doing something with probability. It is certain that the sun will rise every morning but it is uncertain whether it will rain every day and it is a possibility. 

Tedders analyze the market enough before trading, but even after analyzing, he is not sure, he trades because he sees more possibilities, it is seen that many times his market does not change, which results in his temporary loss. No matter how professional a trader is, he can never say with certainty that he has made a profit in all trades, but he may have noticed temporary losses.

[MrSpasybo]

There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.

Many traders even have winrates below 50% but still make profits because:
+ If they predict wrongly and lose, Stop-loss will incur a minimum loss of about 1-2% of account.
+ If they predict correctly and win, they can make a profit until there is a signal to exit the position and have very high profits, enough to cover other losses and create stable profits in the long term.

The journey of researching and applying a trading method will help traders gain more experience and choose the best variation for themselves.

[Gladitorcomeback]

There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.

Many traders even have winrates below 50% but still make profits because:
+ If they predict wrongly and lose, Stop-loss will incur a minimum loss of about 1-2% of account.
+ If they predict correctly and win, they can make a profit until there is a signal to exit the position and have very high profits, enough to cover other losses and create stable profits in the long term.

The journey of researching and applying a trading method will help traders gain more experience and choose the best variation for themselves.

Stop loss is very good tool to prevent himself for losing big but it needs also experience to know the exact point for stoploss. Honestly I tried 3-4 times but everytime I used stoploss, token hit stop loss and after that surges more than 50%. Now I am not using any stoploss and feeling comfortable. Stop loss will save fund but also it will prevent you to make high profit sometimes.

BTW every trader have own strategy. Some traders have high winning rate while some have less winning rate but their strategy able them to get profit. The main thing is profit regardless of how better your winning margin

[Salauddin]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

If you want to trade professionally, you have to practice trading constantly, besides you cannot trade, and if you want to trade you will lose, you have to accept it. Because it is natural that once you gain in trade, you will lose again.

[debra]

Stop loss is very good tool to prevent himself for losing big but it needs also experience to know the exact point for stoploss. Honestly I tried 3-4 times but everytime I used stoploss, token hit stop loss and after that surges more than 50%. Now I am not using any stoploss and feeling comfortable. Stop loss will save fund but also it will prevent you to make high profit sometimes.

For some traders, stop loss is a must to prevent huge losses. But for day traders, I don't think it is very needed because they monitor the market almost every time. When you used the stop loss, you may be not really active in trading and you still have a lack of knowledge in analyzing the market trends. But now you have good knowledge and understand how to analyze the market trends properly. So, you finally don't need to use stop loss anymore. Is it true, dude? 

BTW every trader have own strategy. Some traders have high winning rate while some have less winning rate but their strategy able them to get profit. The main thing is profit regardless of how better your winning margin

You're right. Each trader has their own strategy. They know what strategy that is suitable for their trading style. That's why we can't blame some traders who use different strategies. It is also related to the experience and knowledge, so they use certain strategy to optimize the chance to get profits. But for beginners, some strategies can be riskier although it potentially gives better chance for higher profits.

[SamReomo]

But experts, professional, and experienced traders know how to deal with the crash. They don't panic and just keep holding until the market rises again.

That's true but when those experts, professional traders, and experienced traders open trades with futures trading then their positions also get liquidated if the market gets a sudden crash. Sometimes the market faces high intensity crashes and even the experienced traders fail to cope the losses during such crashes if they have opened their trades either via futures trading or margin trading.

The ones who do spot trading are safe as long as they hold their positions but in futures trading mostly traders go with leverage and thus the chance of liquidation gets higher when a sudden crash takes place.

[damsix]

It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.

[Baofeng]

It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.

Of course, there's no full proof strategies in trading, even if you have that big experience, at some point, you will have to lose in this game. Even the famous Warren Buffett has some investments that failed and obviously he lost billions of dollars.

So what's more on a market that is so volatile as crypto market is, and that is the very reason why those kind of investors doesn't want to go crypto because of the big risk involved .

[bitterguy28]

Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Traders only showing their success but hiding their failure lol so try not to be mislead by complete earning there.

You are so right with this statement, atleast, majority of persons I personally know, both in gambling and trading, and crypto currency investment at large, are always eager to share to or with the world, their winnings, both in crypto investment, gambling and trading, but will never want share their loses as well.

This is why I completely agree with you, people who are not close to this guys will think they are always winning all their trades, that there are never any loses due to how constant they talk about winning trades, but honestly, I must tel you that there are some weeks that they don't even end profitable, but in loss.

So, no matter the level of professionalism in trading or any other aspect of making money, there will always be loses here and there, the only thing is that, the loses are way minimal compared to the loses of those who are not really as good as much in the same activity.

added that super few of traders that will admit they are loser instead just to make them right and clean pretending to be earning because we cannot see their buy or sell orders and we cannot track their investment at any time.

this is why I never accept what many says that they will never lose because no one is safe in losing.