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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Privacy Coins Forum => Topic started by: dkbit98 on January 28, 2024, 11:03:58 PM

Title: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on January 28, 2024, 11:03:58 PM
CoinMarketCap is owned by Binance and I always knew they are not going to be honest, but look what they are doing now with privacy coins!
They made ICP or Internet Computer as number one privacy coin that has nothing to do with privacy at all, and it is ranked above Monero now.
Even worse, they added WLD Worldcoin ranked at fifth place and they literally scanned eyeballs of people around the world for this crap  ::)
I am not sure if they are doing this on purpose or by mistake, but if you are still using CMC it's time to stop and switch to CoinGecko or some other alternative.



(https://i.ibb.co/WH32N9p/priv.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fXSxVRG)
https://coinmarketcap.com/view/privacy/

Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: ABCbits on January 29, 2024, 12:58:20 PM
I didn't expect CMC to fall this low.

They made ICP or Internet Computer as number one privacy coin that has nothing to do with privacy at all, and it is ranked above Monero now.

In addition, when i checked ICP website (which mentioned by CMC), the homepage doesn't even mention privacy or anonymity.

Even worse, they added WLD Worldcoin ranked at fifth place and they literally scanned eyeballs of people around the world for this crap  ::)

At least worst, someone who works for CMC check their homepage and immediately categorize WLD as privacy coin due to words "Privacy-first". Although
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: Yamane_Keto on January 30, 2024, 07:26:41 PM
The ranking is based on market capacity. If a currency claims to be a privacy coin and has a higher market cap than Monero, you will find it first. I read articles about ICP and privacy, but they confuse privacy with decentralization, as they consider that the inability to censor or delete applications means enhancing customer privacy.

https://internetcomputer.org/how-it-works/web-authentication-identity/
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: ABCbits on January 31, 2024, 01:25:29 PM
The ranking is based on market capacity. If a currency claims to be a privacy coin and has a higher market cap than Monero, you will find it first. I read articles about ICP and privacy, but they confuse privacy with decentralization, as they consider that the inability to censor or delete applications means enhancing customer privacy.

https://internetcomputer.org/how-it-works/web-authentication-identity/

You made curious and did further research. According to https://internetcomputer.org/internet-identity (https://internetcomputer.org/internet-identity), their privacy comes from providing unique key for each service we use. But we could achieve similar things by using different email address for each service. As for their passkey, there are some traditional software and hardware which offer same thing.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: Yamane_Keto on February 01, 2024, 05:49:39 AM
You made curious and did further research. According to https://internetcomputer.org/internet-identity (https://internetcomputer.org/internet-identity), their privacy comes from providing unique key for each service we use. But we could achieve similar things by using different email address for each service. As for their passkey, there are some traditional software and hardware which offer same thing.
Exactly, promoting this service as a privacy service shows that CMC does not pay much attention to the description of the service. Such services can claim to be AI or DeFi if it means more profits for them.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on February 01, 2024, 09:57:18 PM
Exactly, promoting this service as a privacy service shows that CMC does not pay much attention to the description of the service. Such services can claim to be AI or DeFi if it means more profits for them.
I really wonder what are those people working for CMC and CZ even doing?
If I go and create some crap coin, send them to list it on their website and I tell them to make it a top privacy coin, I guess I have to also ask them how much I have to pay them for doing that  :P
People even reported this and told them to make a correction, but they ignored it.
All CMC rankings are BS, not just for privacy coins.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: Yamane_Keto on February 02, 2024, 02:27:04 AM
People even reported this and told them to make a correction, but they ignored it.
All CMC rankings are BS, not just for privacy coins.
Without competition, nothing will change. They have been in the lead for years and have been sold to Binance, which will try to use them to achieve maximum profits. Perhaps the best way to improve CMC is to stop using it.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: ABCbits on February 02, 2024, 08:39:07 AM
People even reported this and told them to make a correction, but they ignored it.
All CMC rankings are BS, not just for privacy coins.
Without competition, nothing will change. They have been in the lead for years and have been sold to Binance, which will try to use them to achieve maximum profits. Perhaps the best way to improve CMC is to stop using it.

Competition exist, but CMC is simply too popular. In terms of features, IMO only CoinGeko could compete with CMC. I also don't expect CMC will be improved unless Binance itself is changed or Binance suddenly let CMC go.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on February 03, 2024, 09:59:57 PM
Without competition, nothing will change. They have been in the lead for years and have been sold to Binance, which will try to use them to achieve maximum profits. Perhaps the best way to improve CMC is to stop using it.
I don't use CMC junk for years and I don't miss it at all.
CoinGecko is way better, have more accurate information, and most important thing - it is not owned by Binance or any other exchange.
So there is competition obviously, and Coingecko is not the only website with similar purpose.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: TomPluz on April 03, 2024, 04:40:08 AM
Without competition, nothing will change. They have been in the lead for years and have been sold to Binance, which will try to use them to achieve maximum profits. Perhaps the best way to improve CMC is to stop using it.

I am also using Coingecko which offers most of what CMC is into. I am into actually aware of these issues until I read this thread but I already read some complaints for various grounds before but I just ignore them since no platform can really be perfect. What is clear is that CMC got the bulk of the market in terns of traffic and being a pioneer on its field it built a reputation of its own to be trustworthy and diligent...and I am sad to see that it is making some big mistakes and it is not keen on correcting them. Mayne people working on them are not really that experts and professionals to allow this slip to come up on the platform.




Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on April 03, 2024, 11:10:32 PM
I just found out that CoinMarketCap is now asking from exchanges to pay $50,000 for listing on their website  ::)
There was always rumors about them asking money for faster listing but this amount is crazy for any new and smaller exchanges.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: erus on April 06, 2024, 04:11:47 AM
~snip~
Is this an indication of manipulation from Coinmarketcap? Or is there a system error that occurred in the coinmarketcap database? I just saw a case like this and it also seems like there is a big problem with Coinmarketcap.
You also said that the coinmarketcap rumor was asking investors to pay $50k to be able to list their coins on the coinmarketcap website.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on April 08, 2024, 04:12:45 PM
You also said that the coinmarketcap rumor was asking investors to pay $50k to be able to list their coins on the coinmarketcap website.
No I didn't said that.
Read carefully what was written, I said that one exchange is claiming that CMC team didn't want to list them until they pay them $50k.
I don't know if they are charging anything for listing new altcoins and tokens and i don't care about that.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: mu_enrico on April 08, 2024, 05:01:18 PM
Yeah the list is pretty different from this https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins
It looks like CMC is no longer doing its due diligence correctly, and not sure if it's just me, CMC is slow nowadays compared to pre-Binance.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: Jating on April 08, 2024, 10:50:01 PM
Yeah the list is pretty different from this https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins (https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins)
It looks like CMC is no longer doing its due diligence correctly, and not sure if it's just me, CMC is slow nowadays compared to pre-Binance.
I can't compare about the speed, but I do agree that when they were acquired, something doesn't seems right with CMC as it used to be. Actually I haven't used them for years, I go to coingecko to check everything that is related to the price and others metrics that I wanted to look to. But recently I go back to cmc just to get a feel, specially when the price hits all time high. So I can't remember pre-Binance speed but I do notice lots of ads and that could slow it down a bit.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on April 09, 2024, 04:53:01 PM
Yeah the list is pretty different from this https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins
It looks like CMC is no longer doing its due diligence correctly, and not sure if it's just me, CMC is slow nowadays compared to pre-Binance.
It's working very slow because it is full of advertisement.
That can easily be fixed with some adblocker extension or custom DNS, but we can't coins and exchanges that are listed.
Listing ICP coin crap as privacy coin with even checking is just to much for me to handle.

Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 19, 2024, 11:36:33 PM
It's working very slow because it is full of advertisement.
That can easily be fixed with some adblocker extension or custom DNS, but we can't coins and exchanges that are listed.
Listing ICP coin crap as privacy coin with even checking is just to much for me to handle.
I've also switched to using CoinGecko instead of Coinmarketcap: it's faster and more user-friendly, while offering similar features.

I'm not sure why Coinmarketcap can make such ridiculous mistakes with its privacy coins list. This confusion could come from the tags themselves from the project team or community, and Coinmarketcap doesn't cross-check to edit them accordingly. Someone can suggest this through CMC Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoinMarketCap
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: ABCbits on April 22, 2024, 01:59:54 PM
Yeah the list is pretty different from this https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins
It looks like CMC is no longer doing its due diligence correctly, and not sure if it's just me, CMC is slow nowadays compared to pre-Binance.
It's working very slow because it is full of advertisement.
That can easily be fixed with some adblocker extension or custom DNS, but we can't coins and exchanges that are listed.
Listing ICP coin crap as privacy coin with even checking is just to much for me to handle.

Not only ads, but also tracker (which only blocked by few browser/adblock). They also show less useful information such as "Top community post" on homepage and news section on each coin page.

I'm not sure why Coinmarketcap can make such ridiculous mistakes with its privacy coins list. This confusion could come from the tags themselves from the project team or community, and Coinmarketcap doesn't cross-check to edit them accordingly. Someone can suggest this through CMC Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoinMarketCap

You got me curious, so i did quick search. CMC have section called "Self-Reported Tags" which can be used by the representative of the coin/token/exchange[1]. While i didn't find information who can add tag on other tag section, it implies other tags are added by CMC itself.

[1] https://support.coinmarketcap.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043978191-Self-reporting-Portal-For-Official-Project-Representatives-Only (https://support.coinmarketcap.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043978191-Self-reporting-Portal-For-Official-Project-Representatives-Only)
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 24, 2024, 07:59:03 PM
CoinMarketCap is owned by Binance and I always knew they are not going to be honest, but look what they are doing now with privacy coins!
They made ICP or Internet Computer as number one privacy coin that has nothing to do with privacy at all, and it is ranked above Monero now.
Even worse, they added WLD Worldcoin ranked at fifth place and they literally scanned eyeballs of people around the world for this crap  ::)
I am not sure if they are doing this on purpose or by mistake, but if you are still using CMC it's time to stop and switch to CoinGecko or some other alternative.



(https://i.ibb.co/WH32N9p/priv.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fXSxVRG)
https://coinmarketcap.com/view/privacy/
Correct me if I am wrong but I think this things are ranked based on their market capitalization,  that is, based on  the worth of their market cap, even cmc made this clear at the heading of the same you shared the link in your post.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/24/jx8sz.jpeg)

So, when cmc decides to rank privacy coins based on their attained market cap, is it right to blame cmc for that?, I don't think it's right, I think they are doing their job at most, without any show of favorism or what ever, every coin is given their position based on their market cap, which I think is fair enough.
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: dkbit98 on April 24, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Not only ads, but also tracker (which only blocked by few browser/adblock). They also show less useful information such as "Top community post" on homepage and news section on each coin page.
You can also add custom rules in your adblocker and manually remove any element that you don't want to see.
That is going to make it even more easier to use.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think this things are ranked based on their market capitalization,  that is, based on  the worth of their market cap, even cmc made this clear at the heading of the same you shared the link in your post.
It's not that important how they based their rankings because some of the listed coins have nothing to do with privacy, and they are still in the wrong category.

And this is how Coingecko privacy pages looks like, not perfect but much better than CMC:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/privacy-coins
Title: Re: CMC is JUNK and Anti Privacy!
Post by: ABCbits on April 25, 2024, 10:57:45 AM
Not only ads, but also tracker (which only blocked by few browser/adblock). They also show less useful information such as "Top community post" on homepage and news section on each coin page.
You can also add custom rules in your adblocker and manually remove any element that you don't want to see.
That is going to make it even more easier to use

That's true, but very few people would bother do that when they know better website.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think this things are ranked based on their market capitalization,  that is, based on  the worth of their market cap, even cmc made this clear at the heading of the same you shared the link in your post.
It's not that important how they based their rankings because some of the listed coins have nothing to do with privacy, and they are still in the wrong category.

Or worse, falsely claim their cryptocurrency offer privacy while in fact it doesn't offer much or even invade our privacy.