It is nice to see my answer is leading by a huge margin, and also when you look at the poll and the results here, you can see that this forum is getting more crowded than the other one, which is a great thing for the forum. Investing is of course the better option, we are talking about something that is getting quite good attention for a while now, and I think it is quite good that people are realizing that trading is nice and all, and could do with a small amount on the side, but the real money maker in this market is investment. You can't go anywhere without investment and you should always do it.

Investors are serious people 

- What's your job?
- Investor
Sounds good

- What's your job
- Saver
Sounds boring

- What's you job?
- Trader
Sounds less good then Investor

-What's your job
- Speculator
Bad
She's not going to merry you






Let's put those 2 gamblers on the wall!
 

Comparing 2 things that are actually different because they both have different characteristics.
But in fact those who only see from one point of view about how they perform, even though volatility is also an important indicator for investment.

The high volatility of bitcoin provides faster returns on investments made even though the risk is also large.
But that volatility will not happen to gold, these are two different things, but both have their own advantages and disadvantages.
I now have both and both are also profitable.

Exactly
Let's look at their difference from another angle
Gold is a protection when economy and stock markets slow down - they call it anti cyclical asset,
whereas BTC correlates with stocks.

BTC moves like a leveraged stocks ETF on steroids




If you're trying to guess BTC's future moves, try to predict the stock markets' future moves first.

What's the definition of security?

The opposite of security is commodity?
So if a coin isn't a security, it's a commodity?

Why comparing always BTC only with Gold?
Silver is a precious metal too!

Kiyosaki sits down with Kinesis to Talk ‘The Evolution of Money’





“I save gold and silver. I don’t save dollars.”

Kiyosaki speaks on how everyday people are accustomed to spending and saving in centralised, bank-issued fiat currency, commonly referred to as ‘paper money’.
“My mom and dad had no idea,” says Kiyosaki. The everyday person can’t necessarily see the difference between “real money and fake money”.

He continues, “… they hung on to paper again, their college degrees… People have been conditioned and programmed to take paper instead of the real stuff, which violates Gresham’s law.”
Gresham’s law states that when ‘bad money’ enters a system, people hold onto ‘good money’, which sees valuable assets like gold and silver, exit the system.

Kiyosaki explains how paper assets, such as Dollars, Pounds or Yen are subject to large-scale currency devaluation due to central bank money printing. He contrasts saving in fiat and paper assets with the ownership of hard assets, such as real estate and precious metals.

Kiyosaki comments, “I save gold and silver. I don’t save dollars”, an approach he has taken since his time as an army pilot in Vietnam, which coincided with Nixon’s closing of the gold window in 1971.


BRICS Central Bank Gold Demand

Discussing the BRICS nations, Kiyosaki highlights a growing division between the East and the West, with Eastern nations like Russia and China accumulating gold to create a currency backed by the precious metal.


The Evolution of Money

The conversation concludes with an evaluation of the Kinesis ecosystem; a sustainable and fair monetary alternative, that has already proven its potential in helping users globally counter the impact of a fiat-based economy.
Kinesis’ gold and silver-based currencies, KAU and KAG are backed by fully allocated, fully audited gold and silver, which is made universally spendable by card, through leveraging blockchain technology.

Kiyosaki voices his enthusiasm about Kinesis’ capacity to easily allocate a portfolio between gold and silver, spend on a debit card – and get paid every month through Kinesis’ innovative yields system.
He calls Kinesis a game-changer, deeming it “the evolution of money”.

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Money has 3 tasks:
1) means of exchange
2) store of value
3) unit of account


Unit of account
The problem with inflation is that a depreciating currency makes difficult to measure & compare the value of items over time

This is the drama of inflation: People become poor without seeing it.
People see they have more money - their salaries have increased - and are convinced their wealth has increased.

Anybody here from Indonesia?