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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2024, 05:34:43 PM »
Admin should not be responsible for any criteria used for participation in signature campaigns, and he should not explain anything.
Ranking can be confused in all forums and it doesn't mean that someone will be paid better just because he has a higher rank.
Better ask managers to explain what they want.
You are right, admin should never be responsible for signature campaign participation because it's the job of a campaign manager not of an admin. Most often campaign managers prefer to accept those members in their campaigns who are active and who contribute helpful information to the forums.

The reason for accepting such participants is simple, the advertisers want best exposure and such participants can give them that exposure. Let's compare two participants, one who makes many posts a day but all of his/her posts are just meaningless and they don't contain valuable information which can attract the readers.

On the other hand there is another participants who makes 4-8 valuable posts that contain genuine, relevant information which could help the readers or you can say other members of the forum. The later one will be the preferred choice for the campaign manager because he/she will help the brand to get more exposure than the one who makes many useless posts.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2024, 05:34:43 PM »

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2024, 06:47:09 PM »
with what i see in this, i don't think we are to hold any campaign manager responsible on how they which to state the requirement for the criterial needed in selecting participants for their signature campaign, however, i still don't think there's much need in using the criteria of karma in selecting for campaign participation, though it may to an extent depict the layer of how effect you have been posting quality as people continue to give more karma to you, but its still not an accurate means because you can make quality posts from here to the moon and none may give you one, so since its not a requirement to ranking up, i don't think there's a need as well in requesting for such, but the managers in charge has their own right as well in making decision on what they needed as requirement.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2024, 10:19:16 AM »
Well, to check members on altcoinstalks, as you know so far, you can see it in the "Statistics" section of the profile, see the statistics section of my account: damsix
I also only recently found out that the bounty manager from "icopres" used this feature to accept participants on altcoinstalks who joined the campaign handled by BM icopress.
For now, I personally am quite satisfied with seeing the performance of altcoinstalks members by looking at the "statistics" feature and it is very simple to check.
Thanks for the information, I also just found out about this statistic and of course this will make it easier for anyone to see the performance of participants especially for managers.

Admin should not be responsible for any criteria used for participation in signature campaigns, and he should not explain anything.
Ranking can be confused in all forums and it doesn't mean that someone will be paid better just because he has a higher rank.
Better ask managers to explain what they want.
Ranking is only a grouping, not an absolute for quality.
Many high-ranking accounts don't even have the quality they rank.
Managers have their own assessment for each participant who applies and who will be more deserving of acceptance.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2024, 05:22:29 PM »
I know that the initiator of the topic is teleported from BTT, so I'm a little surprised that a Hero member has a question like this and that he addresses the same to the forum staff if he knows (maybe he doesn't) that even in the forum from which he came, the staff has no influence on who will be accepted to signature campaign, and who doesn't.

Whether it's karma or merits, it shouldn't be something by which someone's quality is measured, because if you were to look at that criterion, then I'm one of the less quality members on this forum considering the number of karma I received for my posts compared to the merits I get on BTT for posts of the same quality.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2024, 08:37:07 PM »
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Whether it's karma or merits, it shouldn't be something by which someone's quality is measured, because if you were to look at that criterion, then I'm one of the less quality members on this forum considering the number of karma I received for my posts compared to the merits I get on BTT for posts of the same quality.
Yes it shouldn't be like that, Karma and merit are just a number given by others for good post appreciation.

The main criteria should be how someone creates a topic or how they describe each issue well and be themselves without forcing them to know everything.

In BTT maybe we have a fairly wide range of rewards, but here we are both new, but yes this is not only because of the amount of karma and merit

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2024, 09:31:12 PM »
I change the ranking as i see fit ... I do not want anyone to know the process, to avoid abuse.

For campaigns, some require good karma, others don't.
Nice reply, I liked it. Well, I was also concerned a while ago about what would be the criteria for a manager to select a participant in a campaign, and I do have some know-how but I know I might be wrong too. As different managers have different criteria. And recently, yahoo62278 made a topic and revealed his way of selecting members. What I look for when selecting signature campaign participants  His way is quite impressive BTW.

Speaking of other managers, they haven't shared any criteria but I assume they must have one. With time we will get to know other's criteria as well. But till then I would say dear OP keep growing and contributing get some badges if possible. But not the bad ones 😂
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2024, 10:38:49 PM »
I change the ranking as i see fit ... I do not want anyone to know the process, to avoid abuse.

For campaigns, some require good karma, others don't.
Nice reply, I liked it. Well, I was also concerned a while ago about what would be the criteria for a manager to select a participant in a campaign, and I do have some know-how but I know I might be wrong too. As different managers have different criteria. And recently, yahoo62278 made a topic and revealed his way of selecting members. What I look for when selecting signature campaign participants  His way is quite impressive BTW.

Speaking of other managers, they haven't shared any criteria but I assume they must have one. With time we will get to know other's criteria as well. But till then I would say dear OP keep growing and contributing get some badges if possible. But not the bad ones 😂
Most managers likely will not share selection criteria. Some of them may not even have any criteria, they just pick whomever applies on a 1st come 1st serve basis.

In reality, a poster doesn't need to know a managers criteria, they just need to make sure they are doing the best that they can. If you are not being accepted into campaigns, you might consider sending a message to managers asking what you can improve on.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2024, 10:38:49 PM »


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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2024, 06:55:51 AM »
In reality, a poster doesn't need to know a manager's criteria; they just need to make sure they are doing the best they can. If you are not being accepted into campaigns, you might consider sending a message to managers asking what you can improve on.

Spot on!

I guess you will agree with me that at least 50% of currently active users were teleported from the Bitcointalk, and it is too early for managers to pick participants based on their karma because most of the members who came to this forum did not earned enough karma while old users of this forum already has a lot of karma.

Moreover, it is too easy to abuse karma these days with alt firms or by creating a friend circle since the karma is unlimited and nobody can check the karma stats except the admin. So, I guess it would be a weak criterion even if managers consider karma to pick participants. Things may change in the future.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2024, 07:46:15 AM »
Most managers likely will not share selection criteria. Some of them may not even have any criteria, they just pick whomever applies on a 1st come 1st serve basis.

In reality, a poster doesn't need to know a managers criteria, they just need to make sure they are doing the best that they can. If you are not being accepted into campaigns, you might consider sending a message to managers asking what you can improve on.
That's true and I think a manager not even sharing their selection method is somehow good because it just keep the curiosity open out there for the applicants especially the one's that always feel they would like to have an edge over others.

For the case of users sending PM to managers asking for insight to the reason on why not being selected and where to to improve is actually a good thought but I think most manager frown at that and I believe if a users does that , it even makes their chances slim for the manager to select them in any of his campaign well not for everyone I guess.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2024, 11:41:54 AM »
I think a campaign manager basically verifies the eligibility of a member to participate in a campaign. It is the responsibility of the forum admin and other stuff to verify that the manager's rules and users' posts are in accordance with the forum's rules. And in the case of signature campaigns, one manager follows each criteria It often depends on the demand of the project. Like gambling casinos has the demand of gambling related post and mixers and other cryptocurrency project need different boards. By combining all these, a member is eligible to participate in a campaign. Another main issue is that one cannot be eligible to participate in the campaign if there is only post activity. To participate in the campaign, one must be a quality poster.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2024, 12:13:09 PM »
Moreover, it is too easy to abuse karma these days with alt firms or by creating a friend circle since the karma is unlimited and nobody can check the karma stats except the admin. So, I guess it would be a weak criterion even if managers consider karma to pick participants. Things may change in the future.

As far as I know, only Senior+ members have unlimited karma points, all ranks below that are limited to what they get from other members - although I don't know how the formula works - 1 karma received = 1 karma that can be given to someone or the formula is different.

Of course, members will always find a way to abuse karma, and it is no secret that merits on BTT are still sold today on the black market and that some members have used airdropped merits to rank their alt accounts.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2024, 02:20:56 PM »
This question should be directed to the campaign managers and not the admin. The forum does not run signature campaigns and as far as i know, they also do not moderate it.

Campaign managers will try to adopt what they think is a good criteria to select participants in their campaigns and it can include a lot of things and it also depends on the type of campaign, is it a casino, mixer, instant exchange, etc. However i don't know if it is important for a manager to make such criteria public, it can affect the posting patterns of members who may try to post to meet those criteria. Lastly, just communicate freely on the forum, if you don't spam, you have a chance to get in a campaign.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2024, 02:33:13 PM »
Of course, members will always find a way to abuse karma, and it is no secret that merits on BTT are still sold today on the black market and that some members have used airdropped merits to rank their alt accounts.

Even if merits are sold on that black market and if old members use their airdropped merits to rank up their alts, you can still investigate it and find it quickly and a single negative tag is enough to ruin the account. But when it comes to altcoinstalks karma system, we cannot check who gave karma to whom. So, people will use their other accounts to send positive karma to other accounts. Or they will manage other Senior member + member to firm karma to rank up. It is possible to stop these abuse only if admin disclose the karma stats of a user.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2024, 04:02:27 PM »
As far as I know, only Senior+ members have unlimited karma points, all ranks below that are limited to what they get from other members - although I don't know how the formula works - 1 karma received = 1 karma that can be given to someone or the formula is different.

Members with ranks below Senior have no option of changing others' karma at all. This option is available for Senior members and above only. So no hidden formula.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2024, 06:35:02 PM »
Even if merits are sold on that black market and if old members use their airdropped merits to rank up their alts, you can still investigate it and find it quickly and a single negative tag is enough to ruin the account.

Merits abuse is something that is not investigated very often, but even when it results in negative feedback, it does not mean that the account is automatically destroyed - it used to be like that, but today you have examples of accounts with negative tags from DT1 members participating in the sig campaign without any problems.

But when it comes to altcoinstalks karma system, we cannot check who gave karma to whom. So, people will use their other accounts to send positive karma to other accounts. Or they will manage other Senior member + member to firm karma to rank up. It is possible to stop these abuse only if admin disclose the karma stats of a user.

There is actually a way to find out who gave you negative karma, and I thought it only required payment, but now I checked and I see that it also requires some luck. That option is called The Eye of Sauron - See who gave you karma
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