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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2018, 12:59:38 AM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

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I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2018, 02:30:08 AM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

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I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

Yes, It's true. Bitcoin is digital money. Bitcoin is not real money.
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2018, 02:49:02 AM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

[links omitted]
[/list]

I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

No, It is digital currency, Bitcoin is the best of crypto currency. Maybe in the future bitcoin can be money.

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2018, 06:34:43 PM »
Bitcoin is a currency that is used for transactions in the crypto community. It is based on blockchain technology that helps to introduce new systems to help make people's lives better.
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2018, 07:11:37 PM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

[links omitted]
[/list]

I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

yes, bitcoin is a money and you can easily exchange it anytime and the good thing for bitcoin is while saving in the wallet bitcoin still earning once the the market will goes up.
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2018, 05:50:36 PM »
Bitcoin adalah mata uang digital yang paling mudah untuk berinvestasi karena tidak banyak persyaratan nya
Bitcoin sangat cepat pergerakan nya sehingga kita kalau berinvestasi sangat cepat untuk mendapatkan keuntungan
Jadi tidak heran kalau bitcoin sekarang menjadi topik di masyarakat

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2018, 05:45:21 PM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

[links omitted]
[/list]

I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

I think bitcoin is not money, Bitcoin is payment system.It is my opinion.

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2018, 05:45:21 PM »


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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2018, 07:30:14 PM »
Bitcoin is an innovative payment network and a new kind of money, https://bitcoin.org/en/

I think bitcoin is money because it has the criteria of a traditional money - medium of exchange, as a store of value, and as a unit of account. Besides, we could use bitcoin in much the same way as money.


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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2018, 03:16:47 PM »
From what I have read, money as one major difference from currency. Real money functions to serve as a store of value , currency does not.
Other than that money has all the functionality of currency.
IE: fiat currency ... is really just that, currency. Due to inflation its not a store of value.
Gold, on the other hand is considered money because it has a store of value, it nearly always stands to correct the current inflation status of any given nations currency.

Bitcoin definitely functions as currency, but as far as being a reliable store of value... well time will tell. Sure, it easily can and is designed w/ that aspect in mind, but its so new that it cannot be judged for its store of value 'status'.
Bitcoin's ultimate store of value worthiness will be determined by the demand for its utility to function as insanely an insanely effeciency currency system. So far, that demand lies only w/ nerds & geeks & believers of that system. It needs to reach average joe demand and thats not gonna happen for quite some time ... if ever...
The definitions stated here makes a lot of sense. Whatever that is considered a currency is subject to inflation and it is not a store of value. For this reasons it cannot be considered as money.
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2018, 09:37:06 AM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

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I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

I think bitcoin is more of a digital currency and is an asset if we invest in it

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2018, 07:37:18 PM »
Bitcoin is term as the internet money which is used as a means of exchange. Personally, I see it as an investment through which I can make profit

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2018, 12:27:21 AM »
Bitcoin is very fast to move around. We will be very useful to make a profit
So it's no wonder that bitcoin is now a topic in the community. Bitcoin is the easiest digital currency to use because there isn't much needed.
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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2018, 12:58:37 AM »
Yes bitcoin is a money not physical but digiral form of money, regardless the value 'cause we don't really know the exact price, it is somehow similar to cards transactions like savings and credit cards. All this transactions are cashless and work on digital or online.

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2018, 01:15:17 AM »
of course, bitcoin is money. to buy bitcoin must be with money. bitcon can't be seen by the eye. because bitcoin is a digital currency. bitcoin and money are the same in my opinion.

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Re: Is Bitcoin money?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2018, 02:51:23 AM »
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads
[mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:

    1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.

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I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?

I think Bitcoin is digital currency, It is an assets for investment. Maybe at the coming future Bitcoin will be money.
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