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Title: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: James Anderson on December 27, 2023, 08:00:40 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Cookdata on December 27, 2023, 03:20:59 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Everybody that engage in trading experience loss in their life time and that's why we have risk management and stop loss to reduce losses when it comes to trading.

Whether you are a professional or a newbie, the market can take from you if you are not careful but with proper use of risk management, use of stop loss will help you minimize how to reduced the loss and as a trader, even if you have loss your focus should be on how to recover from it and makes more profits.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: MrSpasybo on December 27, 2023, 08:59:33 PM
I believe that no trader, no matter how legendary, always makes money from all his trades. Accepting the possibility of making wrong predictions and placing stop-loss orders is part of a professional trading career.

Losing money on most trades is not a big deal, as long as they result in very small losses. The few successful trades with larger profits will generate net profits over the long term.

Many traders only make 30% correct decisions, but thanks to the right trading strategy with reasonable TP and SL, they make stable profits and creates millions of USD in assets.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on December 27, 2023, 11:19:32 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Loosing trading is constant no matter how expert you are, and not even by mistake, you must lose whether you like it or not. Unless you don’t trade, man, that is how it is. Naturally, sometimes you may make a wrong prediction that you will not be aware of till after you make such a mistake. Although we have stopped losing and using strategies will reduce the chance of losing, it will not completely take care of though, Both professional and novice losses. The only thing is to get the knowledge and skills so that the losses will not be too much.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Ambatman on December 28, 2023, 12:10:25 AM
minimizing losses is what makes a professional trader
Eliminating loss is impossible due to lack of information about future trend.
Market isn't all about candlesticks and the like
A man can just wake up and post something online and boom your analysis is useless and you in loss.
Professionals just have an higher chance of getting a relatively high net profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on December 28, 2023, 11:43:32 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

You know, dude, even if you are the best-known trading expert in the world, you will also experience losses in trading because there is no perfect trader in the crypto business we belong to. Although we still have to work hard to learn about trading, there are others who know this field in reality.

Remember, there is no perfect being who entered the Bitcoin or crypto industry who did not make mistakes and immediately made a lot of money here; there is no such story in the world of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

Well, in fact, there are many professionals in this era who do not know crypto trading skills, even those who are not professionals but have extensive knowledge of trading in this field.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on December 28, 2023, 01:58:25 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Yes and No.
Yes Because every trader out there lose money at some point. it doesn't matter how professional and/or how experienced he is. losing money in trading is prominent. there is no way to trade with 100% success rate.
and
No because professional traders end up with profit at the end of the day. they'll loose money in some trades. but they'll cover their loses in other trades throughout the day. and at the end of their closing session. they'll be in profit. (sessions time can differs depending on the traders)
I hope this answers your question.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Asiska02 on December 28, 2023, 02:59:16 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It doesn't matter if you are a professional trader or not, everyone loses money in trading it just differs for different people the amount of money they can lose to trading and that is where professionalism comes to play. As a professional trader, you can minimize your loss better and take maximum profit while trading than a newbie that just comes into the space. No one is perfect and the word perfection does not exist in trading. Everyone loses money and those loses are meant to guide you in your subsequent trade and to understand the market better.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 29, 2023, 02:22:56 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Yes, they are experiencing losses as well. After all, losses when it comes to trading are inevitable, and there will always be times when you will make some mistakes.
The good thing about professional traders is that they're losing money in some of their trades, yes, but they will recover those losses in their next trades or so.

They lose money, but they will recover it afterward. Loss will always be there, but in the end, they will still get profit. Some professional traders treat trading like it's their job already, and they can't afford to end the day losing money, and opportunities will always be there. The market is moving very fast, and if you know how to enter, you will always end up making a profit and recovering those losses.

Opportunites are limitless when it comes to trading. It will only depend on the trader on how they will maximize on it.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Thyplaymaker on December 30, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
I will keep saying that in trading losses are inevitable, you being a professional trader depends on your winnings and how you manage your losses. And to be such professional trader you got to gather alot of knowledge about trading and with those knowledge you can also experience great losses. If you don't work according to it so trading as a professional will depends on how you controls your emotions and losses in trading. To become a professional trader might takes time though but with time you get there.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Hatchy on December 30, 2023, 09:06:24 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Absolutely, mate. This is where many newcomers often miss the point about professional traders. Being an expert trader doesn't mean you won't experience losses, it's about minimizing and understanding them. Trading has always involved a significant level of risk, and those who engage in it are usually either seasoned from learning through losses or have a deep understanding of the market.

If someone claims they're an expert and never faces losses, it's likely a scam. Be cautious and steer clear of anyone on social media promising to teach you how to make millions in a short time through trading. They're likely trying to scam you, so exercise caution and avoid falling for such schemes.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on December 31, 2023, 10:18:43 AM
Absolutely, mate. This is where many newcomers often miss the point about professional traders. Being an expert trader doesn't mean you won't experience losses, it's about minimizing and understanding them. Trading has always involved a significant level of risk, and those who engage in it are usually either seasoned from learning through losses or have a deep understanding of the market.

If someone claims they're an expert and never faces losses, it's likely a scam. Be cautious and steer clear of anyone on social media promising to teach you how to make millions in a short time through trading. They're likely trying to scam you, so exercise caution and avoid falling for such schemes.
The nickname of a professional trader will never be achieved if he never tries and will always experience losses when he tries and make sure that the person wants to be called a professional trader because some people who are already experts in their field do not want to be called professional .
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: SmartGold01 on December 31, 2023, 01:36:08 PM
One thing I know for sure is that there is no one out there that doesn't lose money while trading, in general people trade and lost money but newbie trader mostly lost money without them having to undergo proper trading guide. Since they are professionals we don't always here about them crying or lamenting out to the general public about their lost but newbies always shout and cry out loud for their mistakes.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: sampoerna on December 31, 2023, 11:36:10 PM
Being a profesional trader doesn't mean that they never lose money. They may lose, moreover they may lose several time in only one day. but thry are able to recover their loss and then gains profit again. this is the difference. because they will take certain strategy to make different pairings in trading at once. so they may lose in one pairing and still keep rising money from other trading pairs. so, this will not be big matter for them as long as they always have second plans and also certain strategy for trading based on their skill and professionalism.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Unbunplease on January 01, 2024, 03:45:16 PM
A professional trader is called professional precisely because he is able to diversify risks and correctly process signals, as well as competently use trading strategies. Of course, they lose money - but they find ways to stay in the market, and eventually make a profit on which they can live quite well
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 03, 2024, 08:17:31 PM
Professional traders are always going to lose money, that's a fact, things are always going to be like this in the market for everyone, no matter how good you are, there will always be ways for things to happen so that you lose, I for one For example, a professional trader or a whale had always asked me that, if they lose, if most of the time they win, what happens is that when they lose, if it's true, they lose a lot of money, but they have more money to do other operations and recover what they lost, while as a common market speculator it is more difficult to do and recover from a large loss, as we are people who are always at the forefront of the market since we can always take advantage of some movements, but in Particularly professional whales and traders, what an epieder.

Now, for me a professional terradero is one who makes transactions with money operations greater than $1M because it is not just any move, if a trader moves that money, well for me it is professional, it is a criterion that I have.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Odusko on January 03, 2024, 09:27:11 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Professional traders definitely do  lose money in trade. Trading is like a game you are either winning or losing! However, professional traders only knows how to minimize loses and maximize profits. No footballer on earth that never be in teams that lose in match so is trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 04, 2024, 07:33:19 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Yeah, professional traders lose money just like everyone else, the only difference is that, professionals traders have taken trading as their major source of income, and so by this, they spend much more of their time studying the market, making analysis and research, studying charts and doing everything possible to make sure that all their trading decisions are well informed and not a guess work.

And by the above, this already sets them apart from normal traders out there, the Professionals win most of their trades, because their constant presence in the market makes them understand the market better, but this not to say that they don't lose, they sometimes lose trades as well, its a simple and normal thing.

Being a professional trader does not mean that one is perfectly perfect, no no, it simply means that one is above guessing the market and making careless mistakes through uninformed decisions.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Sim_card on January 04, 2024, 11:00:06 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
The market is two ways which is profit and loss. No matter how professional you are in trading, you will experience both profit and loss. Some days, you will make good profit and some days, you will run at loss. What makes you a professional is that you know how to manage the risk by using stop loss order. The fact remains that trading is complex and deals with emotions, because nobody can know the next direction that the market will move to. Professionals controls their emotions and understand when to enter the market which helps them to reduce the risk of losing, but they also run at loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: alltalk on January 04, 2024, 11:11:16 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money
I think no body is perfect. A professional/experienced trader must ever experience losses. At least, they probably got losses in the early of their trading journey. I also experienced losses, it was when I started trading in 2018. For me, it is impossible to always get profits because there is time when we got difficulty to take profits due to the change of trend in crypto market. But after we have a lot of experiences, we understand what to do in difficult situations.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 04, 2024, 02:04:57 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

I don't know what answer you were expecting. But there is no one who trades but does not lose money on trading. No matter how experienced they are. None of us are 100 percent correct. Trading is always based on prediction. If there is someone whose prediction is one hundred percent accurate, people won't consider him as human anymore. He would loot the entire market with his prediction skills. So, the answer is YES. They lose money on trading too.

A friendly suggestion; this is too obvious and the answer is too obvious too. If you create such thread, you will be considered as a spammer. We didn't really needed such thread to discuss something like this where everyone's answer will be similar.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on January 04, 2024, 02:14:50 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

If any trader have a 100% confirmed knowledge what will happen next, how the price of specific coin will move then no trader will loss money regardless of beginners or professional but hence no one have such knowledge than loss is very possible. Professional trader will just use different strategies to earn and losing chances are very low and even if he loss some money at any point he has very good backup system to recover his money.

Professional trader learned from his past experiences and geeed, impassioned couldn't affect his trade.He know how to manage money and better time to invest which minimize the risk of losing and provide high chances of profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: surendertakyaan70 on January 04, 2024, 03:52:35 PM
There is risk during cryptocurrency trading. When we start trading without any guidance, we may have to face risk. To reduce this risk, we have risk management and stop loss. Adults may also face challenges and losses in their business activities. Trade under manager's adv
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: silkytakyaan86 on January 04, 2024, 04:36:15 PM
Yes, like a game. In which victory or defeat depends on both. Similarly, trading has to be done for traders. In which both loss and profit are faced.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on January 04, 2024, 05:24:10 PM
Not only new members lose money by trading but there are many professional members who lose a lot of money by trading many times. A trader can get an idea about the market but he cannot trade with certainty about the market. A trader usually trades by considering support and resistance but their analysis is not always correct which results in loss of money even if they take the trade for profit. It is ok for a professional traders to lose money but never like a new trader or an inexperienced trader they lose but even if they lose they recover their losses quickly. 

Those who are interested in trading must have enough knowledge about trading and then start trading as it has very less risk.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 04, 2024, 06:13:52 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Anyone is bound to loose money while trading, so it's not something that is being centralized that some set of people make losses while other make profits, what you know and how you understand what you're doing will be what will determined your performance and the results you stand to achieve from trading, even the professional trading organizations are making their big time profits and losses altogether, same are we also entitled to same when we know what we are doing.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ariaryanto on January 06, 2024, 01:06:45 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
not everyone will lose their money, if the person is careful in investing and before investing he corrects it, he even looks for more information so he knows the quality of the project he is going to invest in. if he invests carelessly, he may lose his money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: xSkylarx on January 06, 2024, 01:12:18 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this


Nothing is perfect, they also commit mistakes that lead to losses or markets that don't go their way. Only those professional traders earn more because they know when to trade and that the trade they are taking has a high percentage of winning, not like the newbies who overtrade. No matter how many decades you have been trading, you will still lose because you aren't the one controlling the market, and it is not based on how old you are doing trading 
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 06, 2024, 01:54:10 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this


Nothing is perfect, they also commit mistakes that lead to losses or markets that don't go their way. Only those professional traders earn more because they know when to trade and that the trade they are taking has a high percentage of winning, not like the newbies who overtrade. No matter how many decades you have been trading, you will still lose because you aren't the one controlling the market, and it is not based on how old you are doing trading

The advantage of large traders is that they can quickly recover what they lose while they make another good move, that is the advantage, but it's like you say, they also make mistakes and lose, and normal things in trade are They are perfect, there is always something they have to do to improve, trading is always difficult to do things always well, the movements are quite strong, they have a lot to do, when it comes to this the most knowledgeable traders always need Help, some have a consolidated volume because they have bought all kinds of tools and this is what they take advantage of.

For me, every time they make an operation it is very verified by their teams of traders, they are not about doing things by doing them, they have their teams, their analysts, these whales and big traders always have a lot of work, that is what I have realized, which is hard, but having a tool like consolidated volume.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on January 06, 2024, 03:10:02 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Their Professional Traders also sometimes make mistakes and experience losses. It's just that they have risk management that they always comply with. They have set the amount of loss they can afford in trading. So it's not surprising that a pro trader always sets a take profit target and also a stoploss target from the start. Because they have really made careful analytical calculations about this.

This is different from beginners who sometimes still violate the plans they have made themselves. Usually beginners often have difficulty controlling their emotions but professionals are more able to control their own emotions in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on January 06, 2024, 05:44:40 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
not everyone will lose their money, if the person is careful in investing and before investing he corrects it, he even looks for more information so he knows the quality of the project he is going to invest in. if he invests carelessly, he may lose his money.
I agree with what you say, not everyone will lose their money because if they choose the project they will invest in carefully and look for more information about the project, then they will know how good the quality of the project they are going to participate in is, they will even get There is a huge advantage if he knows the project will progress or be successful in the future.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: OWAS on January 06, 2024, 06:30:14 PM
As long as trading is concern being it professional or unprofessional both of them loss money as a trader,you can makes a lot of money 💰  as a professional trader and as well very easy to loss everything  just a day the things that separate professional trader from unprofessional is how well they manage their  risk while trading ,one thing a professional trader is to identify strategies that  wins more money 💰 than they lose many fail because strategies fail to adapt
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: SamReomo on January 06, 2024, 07:01:51 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Yes, professional and experienced traders also lose money when market crashes. The market is not going to give you profit all of the time, and that's a reality which the professional traders also accept and admit.

The professional traders face less losses as compare to immature ones but they still aren't immune to losses and sometimes they have to face the losses when market crashes. During the time of Luna crash many professional traders have lost money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: alltalk on January 06, 2024, 07:52:33 PM
Yes, professional and experienced traders also lose money when market crashes. The market is not going to give you profit all of the time, and that's a reality which the professional traders also accept and admit.
Of course, if the market drops, everyone gets losses. Beginners, average traders, experts and experienced traders will get losses. But experts, professional, and experienced traders know how to deal with the crash. They don't panic and just keep holding until the market rises again. Meanwhile beginners and average traders may panic and sell their coins for losses. Because there is a difference with the experience and knowledge, there will be different mentality strength.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 07, 2024, 07:24:08 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
when dealing in Money meaning you are dealing also in risk .

there is no assurance in any investment , yeah they are somewhat earning mostly but that does not mean they will never lose.

Traders only showing their success but hiding their failure lol so try not to be mislead by complete earning there.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 07, 2024, 02:26:35 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Traders only showing their success but hiding their failure lol so try not to be mislead by complete earning there.
You are so right with this statement, atleast, majority of persons I personally know, both in gambling and trading, and crypto currency investment at large, are always eager to share to or with the world, their winnings, both in crypto investment, gambling and trading, but will never want share their loses as well.

This is why I completely agree with you, people who are not close to this guys will think they are always winning all their trades, that there are never any loses due to how constant they talk about winning trades, but honestly, I must tel you that there are some weeks that they don't even end profitable, but in loss.

So, no matter the level of professionalism in trading or any other aspect of making money, there will always be loses here and there, the only thing is that, the loses are way minimal compared to the loses of those who are not really as good as much in the same activity.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Kizozo on January 07, 2024, 03:54:19 PM
minimizing losses is what makes a professional trader
Eliminating loss is impossible due to lack of information about future trend.
Market isn't all about candlesticks and the like
A man can just wake up and post something online and boom your analysis is useless and you in loss.
Professionals just have an higher chance of getting a relatively high net profit.

100% accurate. This elite traders has significantly helped many newbies avoid unnecessary loses in trading. My first cryptocurrency trading started with copying other traders on Bitget 2 years ago and it did really helped until I learned trading myself.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on January 07, 2024, 06:09:15 PM
As long as trading is concern being it professional or unprofessional both of them loss money as a trader,you can makes a lot of money 💰  as a professional trader and as well very easy to loss everything  just a day the things that separate professional trader from unprofessional is how well they manage their  risk while trading ,one thing a professional trader is to identify strategies that  wins more money 💰 than they lose many fail because strategies fail to adapt
That's right, we can see someone's ability to trade. If he is professional he will definitely get a profit from his trading results and if he is not professional in his trading then he will get a loss from his trading results.

So in trading on the crypto market we must try to avoid losses, in fact everyone doesn't want losses to fall on them.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 07, 2024, 09:16:42 PM
As long as trading is concern being it professional or unprofessional both of them loss money as a trader,you can makes a lot of money 💰  as a professional trader and as well very easy to loss everything  just a day the things that separate professional trader from unprofessional is how well they manage their  risk while trading ,one thing a professional trader is to identify strategies that  wins more money 💰 than they lose many fail because strategies fail to adapt
That's right, we can see someone's ability to trade. If he is professional he will definitely get a profit from his trading results and if he is not professional in his trading then he will get a loss from his trading results.

So in trading on the crypto market we must try to avoid losses, in fact everyone doesn't want losses to fall on them.

Losses in trading are always something that can be presented at all times, but here the important thing is that things are put on a scale and as a result things can turn out well for the traders, that is, if we are trading during a week, that the result ends with benefits, that is, with a positive balance, the losses are something normal, in fact one should learn a lot from the losses, because there was someone who did not understand it and that was why that bad result was obtained, yes We don't learn from losses, we don't learn anything.

That is the biggest secret of this, of course it does not mean that we are wasting all the time to learn a lot, we always have to see what is the best scenario so that we have the correct vision of our trading, and that is transformed into profits, there is no another, that is always the case, otherwise things can be very difficult, we are people who must always have benefits, much more than losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: I-Bit on January 07, 2024, 10:35:31 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course, they also do. They are professional traders, not the perfect trader. However, the difference between professional traders and ordinary traders is in how they evaluate and how they respond to these trades so that even if they lose money in one of the trades they make, they can quickly return it by taking profit on other trading pairs. or they also use several strategies or techniques that can immediately enable them to get genes even if it turns out that the market changes direction suddenly.

If then there is still the question of why professional traders keep losing the money, then one answer is yes because no one can predict the crypto market 100% accurately. So there is still a possibility that the prediction or analysis attitude will not be in accordance with the course of the market.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on January 08, 2024, 11:39:59 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course, they also do. They are professional traders, not the perfect trader. However, the difference between professional traders and ordinary traders is in how they evaluate and how they respond to these trades so that even if they lose money in one of the trades they make, they can quickly return it by taking profit on other trading pairs. or they also use several strategies or techniques that can immediately enable them to get genes even if it turns out that the market changes direction suddenly.

If then there is still the question of why professional traders keep losing the money, then one answer is yes because no one can predict the crypto market 100% accurately. So there is still a possibility that the prediction or analysis attitude will not be in accordance with the course of the market.

Are these professional traders that you say are also experts and skilled traders? And are these ordinary traders that you say are newbie traders included? Because if I literally look at them both, they are still the same.

They are the same because it is impossible that ordinary traders do not perform technical and fundamental analysis. But maybe what you're saying is that they just have different levels and percentages of understanding in crypto trading and using indicator tools. At this point, I kind of agree.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Pusaka on January 08, 2024, 01:30:44 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course, they also do. They are professional traders, not the perfect trader. However, the difference between professional traders and ordinary traders is in how they evaluate and how they respond to these trades so that even if they lose money in one of the trades they make, they can quickly return it by taking profit on other trading pairs. or they also use several strategies or techniques that can immediately enable them to get genes even if it turns out that the market changes direction suddenly.

If then there is still the question of why professional traders keep losing the money, then one answer is yes because no one can predict the crypto market 100% accurately. So there is still a possibility that the prediction or analysis attitude will not be in accordance with the course of the market.
There is no trader who never loses money, I'm sure of that. You are right, they are professional traders, not perfect traders who never experience losses. As you said, they may be able to recover more quickly when they experience losses, unlike ordinary traders who may be worse off when they experience large losses.
They also still use risk management, which means they are still aware that the trades they make will not always be profitable, and sometimes they experience losses. Predicting where the market will move is something that cannot be claimed to be 100% correct.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Sim_card on January 08, 2024, 02:49:59 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
not everyone will lose their money, if the person is careful in investing and before investing he corrects it, he even looks for more information so he knows the quality of the project he is going to invest in. if he invests carelessly, he may lose his money.
I agree with what you say, not everyone will lose their money because if they choose the project they will invest in carefully and look for more information about the project, then they will know how good the quality of the project they are going to participate in is, they will even get There is a huge advantage if he knows the project will progress or be successful in the future.
There is not guarantee that even though you choose the right project that you will not run at loss. As long as it is trading, loss is inevitable because we are dealing with a high volatile commodity, that we cannot predict the market movement correctly. Trading is something that even when you are a professional, a little mistake can make you loss big and mistake are bound to happen in our lives as humans, so that we can become better by tomorrow. Professional traders know how to manage their risk and when to open a trade, unlike the newbies in trading that don't know their left from their right.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: taufik123 on January 08, 2024, 02:51:32 PM
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They also still use risk management, which means they are still aware that the trades they make will not always be profitable, and sometimes they experience losses. Predicting where the market will move is something that cannot be claimed to be 100% correct.
Risk management is a strategy that must be applied regardless of the current trading conditions.
By doing risk management, all mistakes in trading can be handled well enough so that no losses are too fatal and no losses continue.

Those who are aware of the use of risk management, of course, already understand how the market works.
Except for those who are beginners without having any management and trade based on their feelings only.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on January 08, 2024, 03:19:21 PM
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They also still use risk management, which means they are still aware that the trades they make will not always be profitable, and sometimes they experience losses. Predicting where the market will move is something that cannot be claimed to be 100% correct.
Risk management is a strategy that must be applied regardless of the current trading conditions.
By doing risk management, all mistakes in trading can be handled well enough so that no losses are too fatal and no losses continue.

Those who are aware of the use of risk management, of course, already understand how the market works.
Except for those who are beginners without having any management and trade based on their feelings only.
Sometimes there are also beginners who have known and studied risk management from the start. But in the end, the market experience that beginners have is sometimes not enough and makes them violate the risk management they have planned. Sometimes there are beginners who are already good at analyzing and making thorough plans. It's just that their mental resilience is still very weak. So many beginners leave the plan and experience repeated losses due to their own mistakes. I ever at that stage. It's easy to panic and go off plan. But after gaining more and more experience, now everything is starting to be controlled.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: RockBell on January 08, 2024, 03:42:08 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Lost can not be avoided even as an expert  their is now that you can aviod losing money, expertise go with daily experience because you keep learning everyday. And from your daily experience you can solve any similar challenge in the future. And that is why they advice everyone to keep learning and taking serious note of what is currently happening. And I don't believe in professionalism in bitcoin because of the continuous learning.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gurujebs on January 08, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

What kind of question is this?  ;D

Loss is constant in trading but as a professional, your level of loss in trading should be minimal. You can't escape it because stop loss are been use and they get triggered most of the time. So even if you don't loss without it, the market can be choppy and such losses accumulated can give you loss buy as I said, it's going to be minimal, it wouldn't be that large.

If the trader that happened to be a future trader where liquidity are dried up fast, it's one of the biggest place trader lost money the most because when they lost in spot trading, they can decide to hold to see for a market reversal but futures, the account turn to zero instantly especially if they don't have enough money to cover liquidation.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Stable090 on January 08, 2024, 11:25:28 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
It’s really a funny question to me, because some is called professional doesn’t mean the person won’t lose money when they trading, just that they will know how they will minimize their risk, they will make sure the amount they are winning is far more than the amount they are losing. In trading everyone do lose money, but when you notice your lose is more than your win, then just make sure you stop trading and work on the strategy which you are using, you will have to change your strategy, because in trading, your loss shouldn’t be more than your profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: PX-Z on January 08, 2024, 11:54:45 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Every traders experience loss even on the pro level because you cannot predict the market. There are some ways and tools that might help you to minimize your loss but there's no tools that will help you to avoid losses in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on January 09, 2024, 05:19:12 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
In the case of trading, it is not only non-professional traders who will eat losses, but in this case, professional traders also face big losses sometimes. However, in the case of professional traders, the amount of loss is less than that of non-professional traders. But non-professional traders don't know about some important tips of trading and suffer huge losses. Before trading, if you get proper knowledge about trading like professional traders, then you can reduce the amount of loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on January 09, 2024, 12:19:14 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on January 09, 2024, 02:05:36 PM
As long as trading is concern being it professional or unprofessional both of them loss money as a trader,you can makes a lot of money 💰  as a professional trader and as well very easy to loss everything  just a day the things that separate professional trader from unprofessional is how well they manage their  risk while trading ,one thing a professional trader is to identify strategies that  wins more money 💰 than they lose many fail because strategies fail to adapt
That's right, we can see someone's ability to trade. If he is professional he will definitely get a profit from his trading results and if he is not professional in his trading then he will get a loss from his trading results.

So in trading on the crypto market we must try to avoid losses, in fact everyone doesn't want losses to fall on them.
That means you mean a professional trader will only make profit and never lose. If you think so then you are wrong because no matter how professional a trader is he does not buy any coin for sure but he buys coins with a possibility. There is a big difference between doing something with certainty and doing something with probability. It is certain that the sun will rise every morning but it is uncertain whether it will rain every day and it is a possibility. 

Tedders analyze the market enough before trading, but even after analyzing, he is not sure, he trades because he sees more possibilities, it is seen that many times his market does not change, which results in his temporary loss. No matter how professional a trader is, he can never say with certainty that he has made a profit in all trades, but he may have noticed temporary losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: MrSpasybo on January 09, 2024, 02:20:36 PM
There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.
Many traders even have winrates below 50% but still make profits because:
+ If they predict wrongly and lose, Stop-loss will incur a minimum loss of about 1-2% of account.
+ If they predict correctly and win, they can make a profit until there is a signal to exit the position and have very high profits, enough to cover other losses and create stable profits in the long term.

The journey of researching and applying a trading method will help traders gain more experience and choose the best variation for themselves.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on January 09, 2024, 03:09:06 PM
There are no traders who have 100% win rate neither pro traders or experience traders. We have to expect that they will also experience loses like us. Maybe some of us are asking why they can manage to be profitable, it's because they are disciplined traders. They won't force a trade if the market structure didn't meet the criteria in their trading plan. They're also good at managing their emotions which a very important aspect of being a profitable trader.
Many traders even have winrates below 50% but still make profits because:
+ If they predict wrongly and lose, Stop-loss will incur a minimum loss of about 1-2% of account.
+ If they predict correctly and win, they can make a profit until there is a signal to exit the position and have very high profits, enough to cover other losses and create stable profits in the long term.

The journey of researching and applying a trading method will help traders gain more experience and choose the best variation for themselves.

Stop loss is very good tool to prevent himself for losing big but it needs also experience to know the exact point for stoploss. Honestly I tried 3-4 times but everytime I used stoploss, token hit stop loss and after that surges more than 50%. Now I am not using any stoploss and feeling comfortable. Stop loss will save fund but also it will prevent you to make high profit sometimes.

BTW every trader have own strategy. Some traders have high winning rate while some have less winning rate but their strategy able them to get profit. The main thing is profit regardless of how better your winning margin
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Salauddin on January 10, 2024, 02:21:51 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

If you want to trade professionally, you have to practice trading constantly, besides you cannot trade, and if you want to trade you will lose, you have to accept it. Because it is natural that once you gain in trade, you will lose again.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: debra on January 10, 2024, 10:40:15 AM
Stop loss is very good tool to prevent himself for losing big but it needs also experience to know the exact point for stoploss. Honestly I tried 3-4 times but everytime I used stoploss, token hit stop loss and after that surges more than 50%. Now I am not using any stoploss and feeling comfortable. Stop loss will save fund but also it will prevent you to make high profit sometimes.
For some traders, stop loss is a must to prevent huge losses. But for day traders, I don't think it is very needed because they monitor the market almost every time. When you used the stop loss, you may be not really active in trading and you still have a lack of knowledge in analyzing the market trends. But now you have good knowledge and understand how to analyze the market trends properly. So, you finally don't need to use stop loss anymore. Is it true, dude?  ;)

BTW every trader have own strategy. Some traders have high winning rate while some have less winning rate but their strategy able them to get profit. The main thing is profit regardless of how better your winning margin
You're right. Each trader has their own strategy. They know what strategy that is suitable for their trading style. That's why we can't blame some traders who use different strategies. It is also related to the experience and knowledge, so they use certain strategy to optimize the chance to get profits. But for beginners, some strategies can be riskier although it potentially gives better chance for higher profits.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: SamReomo on January 10, 2024, 01:44:47 PM
But experts, professional, and experienced traders know how to deal with the crash. They don't panic and just keep holding until the market rises again.
That's true but when those experts, professional traders, and experienced traders open trades with futures trading then their positions also get liquidated if the market gets a sudden crash. Sometimes the market faces high intensity crashes and even the experienced traders fail to cope the losses during such crashes if they have opened their trades either via futures trading or margin trading.

The ones who do spot trading are safe as long as they hold their positions but in futures trading mostly traders go with leverage and thus the chance of liquidation gets higher when a sudden crash takes place.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: damsix on January 11, 2024, 09:26:29 AM
It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Baofeng on January 11, 2024, 11:22:37 AM
It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.

Of course, there's no full proof strategies in trading, even if you have that big experience, at some point, you will have to lose in this game. Even the famous Warren Buffett has some investments that failed and obviously he lost billions of dollars.

So what's more on a market that is so volatile as crypto market is, and that is the very reason why those kind of investors doesn't want to go crypto because of the big risk involved .
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 11, 2024, 01:53:51 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Traders only showing their success but hiding their failure lol so try not to be mislead by complete earning there.
You are so right with this statement, atleast, majority of persons I personally know, both in gambling and trading, and crypto currency investment at large, are always eager to share to or with the world, their winnings, both in crypto investment, gambling and trading, but will never want share their loses as well.

This is why I completely agree with you, people who are not close to this guys will think they are always winning all their trades, that there are never any loses due to how constant they talk about winning trades, but honestly, I must tel you that there are some weeks that they don't even end profitable, but in loss.

So, no matter the level of professionalism in trading or any other aspect of making money, there will always be loses here and there, the only thing is that, the loses are way minimal compared to the loses of those who are not really as good as much in the same activity.
added that super few of traders that will admit they are loser instead just to make them right and clean pretending to be earning because we cannot see their buy or sell orders and we cannot track their investment at any time.

this is why I never accept what many says that they will never lose because no one is safe in losing.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on January 11, 2024, 02:58:31 PM
It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.
It is true that even a professional will still have occasional losses in his trading. It's just that they have risk management that they have mastered. So they usually manage their capital with a very mature MM. So when they have a position that is liquidated it is actually only a few percent of their total capital.

So what differentiates pros and beginners is only in terms of experience and discipline. Apart from that it's the same. sometimes they profit and sometimes they lose.

I monitor traders' positions on Binance that are liquidated via this Telegram channel. Maybe the same as yours.
Binance Future Liquidations (http://https:t.me/BinanceLiquidations)

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: MUGNIA on January 12, 2024, 09:22:45 PM
All traders will definitely experience losses, both small amounts and large amounts when they make the wrong decision, but for professional traders it is considered normal, they definitely know how to recover their losses in a short time,
If a ceypto trader had not experienced a loss there would definitely be many traders surviving at this time
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Asiska02 on January 13, 2024, 08:23:21 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

No one is 100% perfect, so all traders lose money irrespective of their perfection in trading. The amount to be loss during trading will only differ base on the professionalism of the person that is trading. How a professional trader will lose money to trading is not how a beginner trader will lose. A beginner is at high risk of losing more money than a professional trader especially if they don’t apply caution while trading. Losses and gain are part of the process and everyone will in one way experience both of them while trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gormicsta on January 14, 2024, 05:26:48 PM
For me, I will say yes.. anything online trading I think there is no professional or experience traders, please don't get me wrong.
Why I say so is because, anything online trading is not always easy and we can't predict exactly. All we are doing are just assumption and if luck be on our side, we hit on the right spot but why we call some people professional or experience traders is because the more they lose, the more they learn from there mistakes, so beginners will meet them for guidance so that the chance of loosing won't be that high so everyone experience lost whether professionals and beginers.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: CryptoLaila on January 14, 2024, 10:36:03 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: kent47400 on January 15, 2024, 09:59:32 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Still, they will definitely experience failure or lose money from trading because cryptocurrency is unpredictable, especially coins that have just been listed on unknown exchanges.
For example, professional traders and newbie traders are the same as the Shapire Diamond, which when split in two still produces the same Shapire Diamond without any changes. This is only my analogy .  ;)
What makes the difference is that the professional trader has long hours of trading and the hustle and bustle of his experience and the newbie trader is just trying to trade in cryptocurrency and that too, perhaps with small capital.
Professional traders usually have a plan to buy coin X using various methods, analysis, fundamentals and the like. Meanwhile, this Newbie trader only relies on his courage to trade Y coins and that too without being based on experience, analysis, fundamentals, etc.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Mfahad on January 15, 2024, 05:46:40 PM
There will be nobody who enters into the crypto trading and has never face loss but every person have lost some amount of money whether he is an expert of new commer. Trading is not as easy as people think about it because every minutes there occurs changes in price and Fluctuations are the common part of it, also there is no one who can predict accurately about the market.

Although an expert trader know the strategies to overcome their losses but still there is a chance of losing money at any stage so care is needed for getting your desire profit. To become an expert trader you must have give time to trading and you will loss large sum of money to become an expert but there is no surety that after becoming and expert trader you will Continuously win money but in crypto trading everyone face some loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: debra on January 15, 2024, 11:59:27 PM
All traders will definitely experience losses, both small amounts and large amounts when they make the wrong decision, but for professional traders it is considered normal, they definitely know how to recover their losses in a short time
It is very true, every trader probably experiences losses whether it is small or big losses.
Professional traders understand that the losses can't be avoided, it is not the obstacle to succeed in trading. So, they won't give up although they experienced some losses. But for the beginners or newbies, they may feel frustrated when they experience losses. They don't have enough experience to control their emotion. It is very different with professional traders, they can control their emotion very well because they have a lot of experience.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Bitcoin_people on January 16, 2024, 03:22:42 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Even those users who have consistently been successful in the trading business and have special experience have lost money at times just because of a small mistake. Many times the experienced people face losses and sometimes those professional traders lose money due to the volatility of the market. Trading is not such that a professional trader will not lose money but even these experienced people face huge losses at times. So trading is a risky activity where at any time you can get high profit, at any time you can face huge loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 16, 2024, 08:27:13 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Even those users who have consistently been successful in the trading business and have special experience have lost money at times just because of a small mistake. Many times the experienced people face losses and sometimes those professional traders lose money due to the volatility of the market. Trading is not such that a professional trader will not lose money but even these experienced people face huge losses at times. So trading is a risky activity where at any time you can get high profit, at any time you can face huge loss.

It is very true, I have noticed myself that sometimes when one makes a mistake in an operation, what one does is cross one's fingers to see if things go in that direction, rarely does that happen, but when it does happen it is I have to be very Patient to see how far the operation holds up, it's expensive I'm talking about futures, and I was wrong about the money I had invested , I couldn't believe I had put so much in, and suddenly I thought I was going to win it at the end, but In 1 second the market went to the other side and I didn't win, that loss hurt me a lot, I don't know if they do futures trading here, but it's really difficult to do an analysis there, because the movies and the The market is sometimes so volatile that sometimes it Seems like she was gambling.

Sometimes before making a move , it is better to do it first in the Play money mode to see the initial behavior because if you lose you don't make Another martingale , since and when I trade with futures I only have 2 martingales.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gormicsta on January 17, 2024, 02:51:38 AM
In terms of trading or investing, I don't think that is a professional or experience traders, don't get me wrong because we all lose money, whether beginners or professional because we all have fear and greed in us which makes us to lose money, Rather the only difference between professional and beginers is that the high rate of loss for the beginers won't be the same with that of the professional so I think professional traders also lose money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on January 17, 2024, 08:46:32 AM
In terms of trading or investing, I don't think that is a professional or experience traders, don't get me wrong because we all lose money, whether beginners or professional because we all have fear and greed in us which makes us to lose money, Rather the only difference between professional and beginers is that the high rate of loss for the beginers won't be the same with that of the professional so I think professional traders also lose money.
So true. Even if several traders have the same insight regarding trading and also have the same experience in trading, they will definitely still have different results. But everyone will experience losses. But the factor that is difficult for all traders to face is managing emotions in trading such as greed and fear. Even a pro might lose control of their emotions sometimes. But the difference is that pros have more mature limits and planning than beginners. And pro traders have insight into when to stop if trading is no longer profitable for them.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: booktiger on January 17, 2024, 10:56:27 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader

All market players periodically lose money, because the market can be unpredictable and very volatile. Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.
This technique helps protect your trades from potential losses, especially in volatile markets. There are different ways to hedge the market, and each has advantages and disadvantages.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 17, 2024, 05:02:36 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader

All market players periodically lose money, because the market can be unpredictable and very volatile. Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.
This technique helps protect your trades from potential losses, especially in volatile markets. There are different ways to hedge the market, and each has advantages and disadvantages.
What you say means that they leave all positions open? For example, if you are in Long, do you have another open position in shrot but with minimal flattening? Well, that is one of the things that can be done but of course you have to be very careful, usually there are whales that do that for approximately 3 minutes which makes time pass very slowly and the amount of money that comes in from one side is offset. On the other hand, this is something like what Jesse Liverpomore did in that one position was supported by the other.

That is a very risky practice and I think that these things are difficult to risk, the person has to be very well focused, because one wrong move and they can lose a lot of money, it is something that is delicate but very good income is always obtained. And when the person has enough skill to endure the amount of apantes emcones that are formed, on the one hand they lose, and on the other hand they win big, wow, in the end, the sum is done and it remains to see how much they won or lost. .
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: CryptoLaila on January 17, 2024, 06:07:37 PM


Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.

Well I never made mention of SL in my comment  but if you  think a professional doesn't use SL then so be it mate ... only to remember that even if they try compensate  then they must be very active  not to miss out since it's  an open trading .Then,  let me add this.. Level  of professionalism may differ in term  of funds
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: KingsDen on January 17, 2024, 11:14:28 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
This is just like asking if professional footballers lose match. Let me just go straight to the answers and you will understand what I mean. If professional footballers lose match, it means that professional traders also lose trade. The word professional does not mean that they are above to make losses. A professional footballer does not mean that he can play better than a non-professional footballer. The word professional means that he is being paid very well for playing football. If we take the same measure into consideration, it means that a professional trader also gets paid more than non-professional trader. The amount of profit of a professional trader over the time will be far better than that of a non-professional player. Both a professional and non-professional trader loses trade at any point in time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: alltalk on January 17, 2024, 11:23:11 PM
Well I never made mention of SL in my comment  but if you  think a professional doesn't use SL then so be it mate ... only to remember that even if they try compensate  then they must be very active  not to miss out since it's  an open trading .Then,  let me add this.. Level  of professionalism may differ in term  of funds
Why we must debate about SL? I don't think it reflects professionalism, it is the way to secure our coins. Professionalism is related to the ability and achievement, but professional traders may use varied ways. So, if some people want to use SL, it is okay. But if other people don't want to use it, it is no problem. Which traders are more professional? It can be quite subjective because the term of professionalism also can be varied.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: UNIVERSE on January 17, 2024, 11:24:54 PM
All traders will definitely experience losses, both small amounts and large amounts when they make the wrong decision, but for professional traders it is considered normal, they definitely know how to recover their losses in a short time,
If a ceypto trader had not experienced a loss there would definitely be many traders surviving at this time
Yes, this is a very reasonable thing and definitely happens. Professional traders don't mean they will win continuously and never lose their money. They must have lost money as a result of their trading strategy being inappropriate or too late to implement techniques when the market changed. but what they do next is something that can make their losses invisible and will actually make a profit in the next trade. So maybe this is what differentiates professional traders from us ordinary traders, namely how they anticipate or take back opportunities to get higher profits than the losses they experience.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on January 28, 2024, 12:50:34 PM

Professional traders don't mean they will win continuously and never lose their money. They must have lost money as a result of their trading strategy being inappropriate or too late to implement techniques when the market changed. but what they do next is something that can make their losses invisible and will actually make a profit in the next trade. So maybe this is what differentiates professional traders from us ordinary traders, namely how they anticipate or take back opportunities to get higher profits than the losses they experience


You're right , a professional trader don't mean win continuously, never loss..
Trading needs experience and good knowledge.
I just do spot trading, maybe it means I'm just ordinary trader not a professional trader.
Because I didn't do daily trading.
I think no one can do trading never loss.
But they  can minimalize their loss .
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on January 28, 2024, 02:29:15 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

You know, dude, even if you are the best-known trading expert in the world, you will also experience losses in trading because there is no perfect trader in the crypto business we belong to. Although we still have to work hard to learn about trading, there are others who know this field in reality.


agree with this ,there is no perfect trader in the crypto business.
everyone which do trading ever loss.
Although a professional trader, because crypto is fluctuate.
Sometimes reality is not the same as we predicted.
But as a professional trader we must minimalize the lost and maximalize the profit.
Become a professional trader need along time , not instantly.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: pacar_tiri on January 28, 2024, 11:42:39 PM
agree with this ,there is no perfect trader in the crypto business.
everyone which do trading ever loss.
Although a professional trader, because crypto is fluctuate.
Sometimes reality is not the same as we predicted.
But as a professional trader we must minimalize the lost and maximalize the profit.
Become a professional trader need along time , not instantly.
Professional traders will be created when they have a bitter experience because maybe from that experience they lost a very large amount of assets, so from that experience they will learn not to repeat the same mistakes, and of course they will automatically become expert traders because they already know what to expect. occurs when you perform an action.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: I-Bit on January 28, 2024, 11:59:01 PM
Professional traders will be created when they have a bitter experience because maybe from that experience they lost a very large amount of assets, so from that experience they will learn not to repeat the same mistakes, and of course they will automatically become expert traders because they already know what to expect. occurs when you perform an action.
Yes, professional traders are the people who can deal with bitter experiences. They will never stop to trade although they have many losses, they keep learning and evaluate the mistakes. That's the way to be professional traders, it won't be easy because it needs a strong mentality. We must have a process to improve the mentality and knowledge through exercises. That's the only way to be a professional trader.  ;)

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: snipie on January 29, 2024, 12:44:54 AM
Professional traders will be created when they have a bitter experience because maybe from that experience they lost a very large amount of assets, so from that experience they will learn not to repeat the same mistakes, and of course they will automatically become expert traders because they already know what to expect. occurs when you perform an action.
Yes, professional traders are the people who can deal with bitter experiences. They will never stop to trade although they have many losses, they keep learning and evaluate the mistakes. That's the way to be professional traders, it won't be easy because it needs a strong mentality. We must have a process to improve the mentality and knowledge through exercises. That's the only way to be a professional trader.  ;)

I think everyone could catch a good amount of money if they have patience.
I mean professional experienced traders should know many things about trading and they will not do a noobie mistake. When we look for example for the number of ordinary people and services popping up to trade, you know these people or organisations do win money, otherwise they would stop working.
For the losing an important part of their assets, it is possible in some risky trading or whenever they need the money at whatever price will be for something that wasn't planned before.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: rizqillah on January 29, 2024, 01:07:50 AM
agree with this ,there is no perfect trader in the crypto business.
everyone which do trading ever loss.
Although a professional trader, because crypto is fluctuate.
Sometimes reality is not the same as we predicted.
But as a professional trader we must minimalize the lost and maximalize the profit.
Become a professional trader need along time , not instantly.
Professional traders will be created when they have a bitter experience because maybe from that experience they lost a very large amount of assets, so from that experience they will learn not to repeat the same mistakes, and of course they will automatically become expert traders because they already know what to expect. occurs when you perform an action.

A professional trader is formed from frequently experiencing losses at the beginning of learning about trading.
They will learn from failure and improve their strategy.
That experience makes them better and more skilled at trading.
They can control their emotions and are experts at looking at charts.
So, Professional trader also lose their money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Papusha20 on January 29, 2024, 04:49:26 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal to have profit and loss in trading, a person who ventured into cryptocurrencies must have faced losses for sure. Because the Bitcoin market fluctuates all the time because the investor does not know which direction the market will move?. 

Therefore, if one participates in trading, it is normal to experience losses, there is no agreement that trading will always bring benefits. I faced many losses when I was new to trading because I didn't understand what market research is all about. Yet experienced people can't be sure about market research, so if they buy during a sudden upswing, and face losses if the market suddenly turns down again. Investors start trading even knowing that they are facing losses because it is not possible to gain benefits without taking risks, so I consider losses to be normal.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: CryptoLaila on January 29, 2024, 11:36:37 AM


A professional trader is formed from frequently experiencing losses at the beginning of learning about trading.
They will learn from failure and improve their strategy.
That experience makes them better and more skilled at trading.
They can control their emotions and are experts at looking at charts.
So, Professional trader also lose their money.

These are great points and i love the way pointed out  tht professional traders  loose money
Thus, the best of all is that  "experience makes them better and more skilled at trading "  :-  this is not even  applicable only to trading only but every area of life and many traders tends to hide  from getting  experienced which make them prone to  more loss .
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on January 29, 2024, 03:32:25 PM
There is no rule that professional traders do not give losses but the amount of losses in case of professional traders is much less than other non-professional traders. For those who are new and inexperienced, trading must learn some principles or education or some research work which if not learned there is a possibility of heavy losses in trading. But in case of professionals, the risk of loss is less likely to occur later as they are experienced with those risks and have mastered themselves. However, even if professional traders make losses, they have enough experience to minimize those losses later.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on January 30, 2024, 10:49:14 AM
We know that when trading crypto or forex, there is no exemption. Everyone knows that there are no perfect traders, so that means we all face losses in trading. And through these losses that we experience and will experience in the future, that will help us grow even more in our trading activity.

Maybe others here think that if you are an expert or a veteran trader, you don't lose in trading. That's a bit of a wrong belief. After all, whale investors are still making mistakes because what they think pro traders or experts don't lose, they don't lose in the trading they do, which is not true in reality.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 31, 2024, 06:49:01 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
This is just like asking if professional footballers lose match. Let me just go straight to the answers and you will understand what I mean. If professional footballers lose match, it means that professional traders also lose trade.

The most accurate answer I have seen in this thread so far. Sometimes people ask hilarious questions like this. Isn't it too obvious thing that everyone loses in trading? Imagine what would have happened if professional traders never lost their trades. They would have won all the trades and bankrupted the houses (Trading platforms). But fortunately, it never going to happen.

Now, when I ask myself that why people create such thread to ask such bullshit questions; I don't find any answer that could make sense except either they are doing it fill their signature requirements, or just to get some activity by posting shit. I guess this is my last post here.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: TopT3ns on January 31, 2024, 09:27:41 PM
We know that when trading crypto or forex, there is no exemption. Everyone knows that there are no perfect traders, so that means we all face losses in trading. And through these losses that we experience and will experience in the future, that will help us grow even more in our trading activity.

Maybe others here think that if you are an expert or a veteran trader, you don't lose in trading. That's a bit of a wrong belief. After all, whale investors are still making mistakes because what they think pro traders or experts don't lose, they don't lose in the trading they do, which is not true in reality.
Traders encounter losses almost every time, but it should be noted that the losses created will provide important lessons for traders so as not to repeat the same mistakes for the umpteenth time because so far many traders have become professionals because of experience like that. It is proven that experience with certain losses can provide big changes for those who can accept failure and are able to get up again.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: BitMaxz on January 31, 2024, 10:06:14 PM
Traders encounter losses almost every time, but it should be noted that the losses created will provide important lessons for traders so as not to repeat the same mistakes for the umpteenth time because so far many traders have become professionals because of experience like that. It is proven that experience with certain losses can provide big changes for those who can accept failure and are able to get up again.
They always have a backup plan if they lose their current prediction they have a 2nd or 3rd plan sample when the price drops and they forgot to set a stop-loss what they do is sometimes DCA buy while the price of the crypto drops and later make a profit once the price rise but if it's not they do buy again and later sell them once they already hit the target price. A Day trader always has a backup plan they don't want to waste the opportunity to buy cheap and make a profit later.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 01, 2024, 12:37:06 PM
Traders encounter losses almost every time, but it should be noted that the losses created will provide important lessons for traders so as not to repeat the same mistakes for the umpteenth time because so far many traders have become professionals because of experience like that. It is proven that experience with certain losses can provide big changes for those who can accept failure and are able to get up again.
They always have a backup plan if they lose their current prediction they have a 2nd or 3rd plan sample when the price drops and they forgot to set a stop-loss what they do is sometimes DCA buy while the price of the crypto drops and later make a profit once the price rise but if it's not they do buy again and later sell them once they already hit the target price. A Day trader always has a backup plan they don't want to waste the opportunity to buy cheap and make a profit later.
No one is always profitable in trading, even a very professional trader will inevitably experience losses. What makes them different is that their mentality is really well formed, making them calmer when facing bad situations.

Unlike the case with novice or unprofessional traders, when they experience losses, their mentality is usually not better than before, and at such times they will become ambitious people, which is actually the initial problem they will face.

Mentality is one of the important factors that traders must have, because with mentality they will be able to be calmer when facing certain situations.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on February 01, 2024, 12:48:15 PM

Professional traders don't mean they will win continuously and never lose their money. They must have lost money as a result of their trading strategy being inappropriate or too late to implement techniques when the market changed. but what they do next is something that can make their losses invisible and will actually make a profit in the next trade. So maybe this is what differentiates professional traders from us ordinary traders, namely how they anticipate or take back opportunities to get higher profits than the losses they experience


You're right , a professional trader don't mean win continuously, never loss..
Trading needs experience and good knowledge.
I just do spot trading, maybe it means I'm just ordinary trader not a professional trader.
Because I didn't do daily trading.
I think no one can do trading never loss.
But they  can minimalize their loss .
No matter how professional or experienced they are in gambling and trading, they will have losses because no professional trader or gambler will ever be in profit but he will have to face losses at some point or the other. When a professional gambler and trader loses, the amount of loss is less than that of other new or amateur traders or gamblers. One thing they must remember is that a professional gambler and trader is much more experienced and skilled than a new trader or gambler, but both trading and gambling face losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on February 03, 2024, 02:07:09 PM

No matter how professional or experienced they are in gambling and trading, they will have losses because no professional trader or gambler will ever be in profit but he will have to face losses at some point or the other. When a professional gambler and trader loses, the amount of loss is less than that of other new or amateur traders or gamblers. One thing they must remember is that a professional gambler and trader is much more experienced and skilled than a new trader or gambler, but both trading and gambling face losses.


No bodies perfect, in gambling and trading everyone ever lost. But how to manage the lost and the profit. Professional trader will more profit than Lost. It's the reason why they still do trading. They have good experience and skill.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Carbitcoin on February 03, 2024, 08:15:46 PM
Luck loves those who improvise and are not afraid to experiment.  Those who scrupulously adhere to the rules, recommendations for strategies, and the opinions of analysts in crypto ultimately suffer losses.  As they say, flexibility and the ability to quickly adapt to market volatility are important.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 04, 2024, 07:43:04 AM
No bodies perfect, in gambling and trading everyone ever lost. But how to manage the lost and the profit. Professional trader will more profit than Lost. It's the reason why they still do trading. They have good experience and skill.
Well nothing is perfect in this world, but at least with high curiosity and not easily discouraged from learning new things, it will give you the opportunity to approach perfection. Professional traders can only be achieved when they dare to try something new and not afraid of the risks involved.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on February 04, 2024, 08:50:20 AM
No bodies perfect, in gambling and trading everyone ever lost. But how to manage the lost and the profit. Professional trader will more profit than Lost. It's the reason why they still do trading. They have good experience and skill.
So true. Because even professional traders will occasionally make mistakes and experience losses. That is why we can still see many Future trading positions being liquidated in large amounts. They may be whales who are also pros, but they are still humans who can experience defeat. It's just that as a pro trader they become more disciplined and can manage risks well. Because they always learn from experience and they also have much more experience than us who are just ordinary traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on February 05, 2024, 06:29:56 AM

Because even professional traders will occasionally make mistakes and experience losses. That is why we can still see many Future trading positions being liquidated in large amounts. They may be whales who are also pros, but they are still humans who can experience defeat. It's just that as a pro trader they become more disciplined and can manage risks well. Because they always learn from experience and they also have much more experience than us who are just ordinary traders.


Although professional trader  sometimes they  did mistake and have lost.  But a professional trader can manage risk, they will gain profit again higher than their lost. It's experience, we know experience is too expensive and needs along time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on February 05, 2024, 07:48:05 AM
No bodies perfect, in gambling and trading everyone ever lost. But how to manage the lost and the profit. Professional trader will more profit than Lost. It's the reason why they still do trading. They have good experience and skill.
So true. Because even professional traders will occasionally make mistakes and experience losses. That is why we can still see many Future trading positions being liquidated in large amounts. They may be whales who are also pros, but they are still humans who can experience defeat. It's just that as a pro trader they become more disciplined and can manage risks well. Because they always learn from experience and they also have much more experience than us who are just ordinary traders.
No matter how skilled an angry trader is, there is a possibility of loss for a professional trader if he does not completely interfere with his trade or he cannot make any trades with confirmation. By professional traders we mean those traders who understand the market very well and who can analyze the market well and whose analysis is correct most of the time. However, although their analysis is correct, many times it is seen that they think of the market in one direction but the market goes in the opposite direction, as a result of which sometimes they also suffer big losses. It is very common in trading that traders lose money even when they are very experienced and skilled.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on February 05, 2024, 12:42:04 PM
No bodies perfect, in gambling and trading everyone ever lost. But how to manage the lost and the profit. Professional trader will more profit than Lost. It's the reason why they still do trading. They have good experience and skill.
So true. Because even professional traders will occasionally make mistakes and experience losses. That is why we can still see many Future trading positions being liquidated in large amounts. They may be whales who are also pros, but they are still humans who can experience defeat. It's just that as a pro trader they become more disciplined and can manage risks well. Because they always learn from experience and they also have much more experience than us who are just ordinary traders.
No matter how skilled an angry trader is, there is a possibility of loss for a professional trader if he does not completely interfere with his trade or he cannot make any trades with confirmation. By professional traders we mean those traders who understand the market very well and who can analyze the market well and whose analysis is correct most of the time. However, although their analysis is correct, many times it is seen that they think of the market in one direction but the market goes in the opposite direction, as a result of which sometimes they also suffer big losses. It is very common in trading that traders lose money even when they are very experienced and skilled.
There's no such thing about being a perfect traders or doesnt have any loss because the market or even other market is always been that random and unpredictable. No matter how good your prediction is or analysis that you had made out. It wont really be giving out that 100% assurance that you would be profitable. No matter how veteran you are and how professional you are
there's no always a guarantee. The only differs here comparing into those newbie traders and with those pros is that the difference on how they do able to sustain for long term.
Professionals cant be called on that name if they arent that able to sustain. Yes, they have losing trades but their profitable trade numbers are way more higher than with those losses
on which it do still ends up on being that profitable in the end of the day.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Yamzakid on February 05, 2024, 12:58:06 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Remember that losing money in trading is a constant regardless of your level of experience. Also, it has the ability to disprove you if you try to present yourself as an authority. But most novices don't understand that professional traders know how to manage risk.
Professional traders may be able to make up their losses in addition to any profits they may have made at the time of loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on February 05, 2024, 11:41:47 PM
Remember that losing money in trading is a constant regardless of your level of experience. Also, it has the ability to disprove you if you try to present yourself as an authority. But most novices don't understand that professional traders know how to manage risk.
Professional traders may be able to make up their losses in addition to any profits they may have made at the time of loss.
Losing money when you trade can actually be minimized; you have to trade well and correctly to avoid losses. When you are trapped at a high price, you have to apply hodl or let the price rise again, because if you make a cut, you will lose money. owned will be lost, as you said.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on February 06, 2024, 05:53:53 AM
I have never seen a single trader who did not experience a loss in trading. Even expert traders in crypto still experience defeats or losses in trading today. What about the newbies who don't know anything about this field of crypto business?

As long as what is necessary and important is that we continue to learn things in crypto trading, nothing is perfect in this industry. We must know how to get earnings here, although we can still make mistakes in TA or FA in the actual trade.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 07, 2024, 10:16:49 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

Cryptocurrencies are very dynamic assets, except for stable coins, which have only slight volatility. For the other cryptos that generate profit, they are being traded for their volatility because it's still the volatility that causes traders to make profit due to their price predictions. So, because the price of crypto is very volatile and dynamic, it becomes very difficult for even professional and experienced traders to be profitable all the time. As a matter of fact, there is no one who doesn't experience losses in trading, but people who lose more while trading are newbies. They are newbies because they lack full experience, while professional traders have more experience and can be able to control some losses and also prevent heavy losses in their trades.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bhadz on February 07, 2024, 10:26:24 PM
Yes, they can lose money too. Even they will be called as experts and experienced, they are not exempted from losing money. I follow traders that are good and just watch their contents and the good ones are always showing their losses and they define it as even the good ones can still lose money from this market. But if they lose, they recover it quickly with their next trades. So that's how they are moving on with their losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 07, 2024, 11:22:36 PM
Yes, they can lose money too. Even they will be called as experts and experienced, they are not exempted from losing money. I follow traders that are good and just watch their contents and the good ones are always showing their losses and they define it as even the good ones can still lose money from this market. But if they lose, they recover it quickly with their next trades. So that's how they are moving on with their losses.
This is good to know so that others can realize that trading is like that, and that there are no tricks or things so that a person always wins, there are always gains and losses in trading, and also the big balls make mistakes and lose money, that It is something that many believe does not happen, but yes, it always happens and that is why when we are people who do not believe that millionaires lose, well yes, the only thing that happens is that they will recover quickly, or that they manage large amounts of money that any movement is already a lot of money, and nothing more there, then they will recover.

I will always believe in traders who show their balance, their losses, their gains, especially if they give signals or something like that, because it is the only way for me to realize that they are authentic and that they are not inventing anything at all, that is why it is I applaud the traders of this eteslio because very few are like that, that is why in trading the contests appear, let's see who is actually the best.
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Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: I-Bit on February 07, 2024, 11:55:33 PM
Losing money when you trade can actually be minimized; you have to trade well and correctly to avoid losses. When you are trapped at a high price, you have to apply hodl or let the price rise again, because if you make a cut, you will lose money. owned will be lost, as you said.
To minimize the loses, we must have good knowledge in trading. The experience also helps us to avoid the severe loses because we know how to deal with any situation. Daily trading is a good way to lessen the risk of losses, but it only takes small profits. But if we expect to get higher profits, we must hold the coins for a long term investment. Anyway, what do you mean by 'make a cut'? Is it stop loss?  :-\

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: vegasus on February 08, 2024, 11:55:54 PM
No one has never lost money when trading. even though they are professional traders. There are certainly times when they lose, whatever the amount. And isn't it true that when a trader sets CL, it also ends in a loss, right?

But the profits they get are certainly much higher every day compared to the losses. We can say that the percentage of loss vs. profit will definitely be much higher than the profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: jonathancool220 on February 09, 2024, 07:13:22 AM
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You say that, I also have the same thought because those who trade professionally have minimal losses.
There are ups and downs in cryptocurrency, of course in trading we buy when the price goes down and sell when the price goes up. What professional traders do is also the same.
These professional traders also have losses but they are minimal compared to their profits and they even have their own notes in their diaries, perhaps saved in Microsoft Excel or Notepad.
What is certain is that professional traders have the same losses we experience.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bounceback on February 09, 2024, 11:05:22 AM
No one has never lost money when trading. even though they are professional traders. There are certainly times when they lose, whatever the amount. And isn't it true that when a trader sets CL, it also ends in a loss, right?

But the profits they get are certainly much higher every day compared to the losses. We can say that the percentage of loss vs. profit will definitely be much higher than the profit.
Actually not any body never losses their money in trading in cryptocurrency, how expert some one and raise with the highest level of trading ever on stop losses position because their coins prediction get down.
But the expert or professional trader always use stop loss feature with their trading techniques and as faster possible get recovery back when losing their money. The professional trader had much experience and easily to manage well with trading how to earn much profitable, but some time when whales make bad or good news I think the professional trader can't predict it before.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: elbans89 on February 09, 2024, 12:17:12 PM

Actually not any body never losses their money in trading in cryptocurrency, how expert some one and raise with the highest level of trading ever on stop losses position because their coins prediction get down.
But the expert or professional trader always use stop loss feature with their trading techniques and as faster possible get recovery back when losing their money. The professional trader had much experience and easily to manage well with trading how to earn much profitable, but some time when whales make bad or good news I think the professional trader can't predict it before.

I see many professional traders also ever lost, but they have good experience to manage their assets well. How to recover assets after lost. Trading needs good experience and skill, Unfortunately I didn't have it. I'm just do spot trading, Sometimes.
Not focus there.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: therozaq on February 09, 2024, 01:04:03 PM
Not only a professional trader, almost all member here ever lost their money in crypto currency. But we can recover again and gain more profit bigger than we lost . That's normal in investment. Every people ever do mistakes. So I believe they ever lost in their investment.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on February 09, 2024, 06:20:44 PM
Yes of course everyone will face win sometimes and on another moment he will loss some money because its a normal part of life and we should accept both and appreciate both as win gives us happiness while loss gives us lesson which helps to overcome our mistakes.

Expert is not an expert by birth and they are not educated and learned people from the start but they do mistakes and learn from these mistakes to stabilize their future. Experts are also humans like us so Expert are not those who never get wrong but they learn from their inaccuracy and never do the same thing again in life.

Professional in any field are hard workers so they don't get this name easily but they sacrifices many things for success so now they are enjoying their life same is the case with traders that if they use their knowledge then it is possible that they will change their status and will count in Professional traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: KingsDen on February 09, 2024, 07:13:31 PM
Losing money when you trade can actually be minimized; you have to trade well and correctly to avoid losses. When you are trapped at a high price, you have to apply hodl or let the price rise again, because if you make a cut, you will lose money. owned will be lost, as you said.
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Your idea of holding when we are at loss is nice but it does only work for people trading on spot without leverage. Someone trading futures cannot hold when lossing. Someone in x5 will be liquidated if they hold. So, the best way is to avoid running into much losses by using the SL and you will be good.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: aiviaa485 on February 10, 2024, 10:43:21 AM
This OP question seems very easy to describe in various sports games in the real world.
Maybe for example, like my father watching a MotoGP race and as far as I know, the famous MotoGP racer is Valentino Rossi, if I'm not mistaken.
As great as Valentino Rossi is at racing and has many awards from various racing events, in fact he has also fallen during a race, I have seen him fall but don't know when racing on which circuit.

Professional traders are the same as Valentino Rossi and professional traders will also experience losses on their trades.
But maybe these professional traders have fewer losses than traders who are new to cryptocurrency, that might be the difference.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Doctor on February 11, 2024, 03:09:20 PM
A professional trader must have experienced failure in the past, which makes him learn to improve his strategy and analysis.  No one who invests, whether as a holder or trader, hasn't ever experienced failure.
The difference is, a smart professional trader minimizes losses by increasing profits.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Primo1760 on February 11, 2024, 09:06:49 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Whether a professional trader or a novice trader, if he does not have a trading strategy and if he does not follow market precautions, he will definitely lose money any time. There is no trader who has not lost money As far as I know everyone has lost more or less money on trading platforms. Many professional and amateur traders have lost their money on the news of the market peak. But if a trader is trading by his skill then surely he can minimize the loss from the trading platform if he uses stop loss profit system with the trading platform. Every trading platform has a stop profit loss system to minimize risk for traders who are very experienced in the trading platform always use stop profit loss to minimize their losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on February 14, 2024, 07:00:44 PM
A professional trader must have experienced failure in the past, which makes him learn to improve his strategy and analysis.  No one who invests, whether as a holder or trader, hasn't ever experienced failure.
The difference is, a smart professional trader minimizes losses by increasing profits.
Well, as you mentioned, everything requires quite a long process to become a professional trader, but you need to know that everything also requires capital, which is certainly not small. In cryptocurrency, so far, what I know is that if you only analyze and never try, it won't work. know the results.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Carbitcoin on February 14, 2024, 07:08:33 PM
To succeed in trading you will need years of hard work and sufficient capital.  Money is not earned that easily and free cheese can only be found in a mousetrap. If you can continually reduce these errors, you'll be one step closer to sustainable profits.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gormicsta on February 15, 2024, 06:20:46 AM
For me, I don't think there is professional in anything called cryptocurrency because nobody can really dictate how the market runs rather we are just cautious, prayerful, positive and luck on our side, that is why it's not everytime people lose money, and we consider those people as professional, if not for what is listed here, people would be losing money everyday so I think professional traders do lose money too.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 15, 2024, 11:15:22 AM
To succeed in trading you will need years of hard work and sufficient capital.  Money is not earned that easily and free cheese can only be found in a mousetrap. If you can continually reduce these errors, you'll be one step closer to sustainable profits.
It's a journey that will take a long time to become a successful trader. But once success does not mean that there will never be losses, losses will always be there, it's just that maybe it will be more minimized with enough experience and knowledge.

Yes it is true, sufficient capital will also be very decisive for the journey in trading, especially if we are still in the process of learning, I think we will have to spend more money, because the risk of losing money will be higher when we are still learning.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: elbans89 on February 15, 2024, 01:17:38 PM

It's a journey that will take a long time to become a successful trader. But once success does not mean that there will never be losses, losses will always be there, it's just that maybe it will be more minimized with enough experience and knowledge.


Yes, with sufficient experience and the right strategy, a professional trader will minimize losses.  Losses will always exist in trading, in investing and of course in every business.
But we must always careful, always learn from our mistake.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 16, 2024, 09:12:50 AM

It's a journey that will take a long time to become a successful trader. But once success does not mean that there will never be losses, losses will always be there, it's just that maybe it will be more minimized with enough experience and knowledge.


Yes, with sufficient experience and the right strategy, a professional trader will minimize losses.  Losses will always exist in trading, in investing and of course in every business.
But we must always careful, always learn from our mistake.
Learning from our mistakes is something we must do, lest we fall into the same hole. Many things are learned and over time of course our experience will also continue to grow, and that's when there are actually many lessons we can take.

At first I thought professional traders were like that too, they made mistakes and from there they learned a lot so they wouldn't make the same mistakes. So that the mistakes that made them lose money before can be minimized again.

The process continues like that while improving what is lacking from the strategy being used.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Primo1760 on February 16, 2024, 10:51:26 AM
A professional trader must have experienced failure in the past, which makes him learn to improve his strategy and analysis.  No one who invests, whether as a holder or trader, hasn't ever experienced failure.
The difference is, a smart professional trader minimizes losses by increasing profits.
Right, those who have become professional traders must have admitted failure in life. If a person makes a mistake, he can learn from it very easily and quickly. If he does not make a mistake, he can never learn well and quickly. If I consider from my side, I can see that there was a time when I was not very experienced with the trading platform and used to trade on the assumption that my trading platform would have resulted in a lot of losses. So those who have lost most of their lives have become professional traders. If someone says that I became a professional trader without ever losing or failing, they are wrong.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on February 16, 2024, 05:10:59 PM
To succeed in trading you will need years of hard work and sufficient capital.  Money is not earned that easily and free cheese can only be found in a mousetrap. If you can continually reduce these errors, you'll be one step closer to sustainable profits.
It's a journey that will take a long time to become a successful trader. But once success does not mean that there will never be losses, losses will always be there, it's just that maybe it will be more minimized with enough experience and knowledge.

Yes it is true, sufficient capital will also be very decisive for the journey in trading, especially if we are still in the process of learning, I think we will have to spend more money, because the risk of losing money will be higher when we are still learning.
but unfortunately it's not enough to just have money, friend, to be a good professional trader you have to have a lot of capital and material knowledge in trading crypto... so, all we have to do is look for strategies on how to trade, how to get lots of profits and avoid significant losses. big.. but a trader must experience ups and downs, sometimes we get profits and sometimes we get losses.. not all traders to become rich have no obstacles, there are definitely obstacles.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Power420 on February 16, 2024, 06:11:05 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal for any trader to face losses if it is not possible to take trades on time. I have been trading with Bitcoin for 3 years now but somehow still didn't know the right way to do this market research. Losses are sometimes encountered because trades are wrongly observed by the green candlesticks of the market at the right time leading to subsequent losses. The price of Bitcoin is always going up and down due to which the market goes down at any time and the investors or traders then incur losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on February 16, 2024, 06:59:38 PM

but unfortunately it's not enough to just have money, friend, to be a good professional trader you have to have a lot of capital and material knowledge in trading crypto... so, all we have to do is look for strategies on how to trade, how to get lots of profits and avoid significant losses. big.. but a trader must experience ups and downs, sometimes we get profits and sometimes we get losses.. not all traders to become rich have no obstacles, there are definitely obstacles.


Trading is the skill of managing assets quickly. How to get bigger profits than losses. Trading requires a lot of expertise, knowledge and flying hours.  It is not easy to become a professional trader, we must have sufficient experience. If we didn't have trading knowledge, better to be a holder. Buy top coins and hold
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 17, 2024, 11:56:32 AM
It's a journey that will take a long time to become a successful trader. But once success does not mean that there will never be losses, losses will always be there, it's just that maybe it will be more minimized with enough experience and knowledge.

Yes it is true, sufficient capital will also be very decisive for the journey in trading, especially if we are still in the process of learning, I think we will have to spend more money, because the risk of losing money will be higher when we are still learning.
but unfortunately it's not enough to just have money, friend, to be a good professional trader you have to have a lot of capital and material knowledge in trading crypto... so, all we have to do is look for strategies on how to trade, how to get lots of profits and avoid significant losses. big.. but a trader must experience ups and downs, sometimes we get profits and sometimes we get losses.. not all traders to become rich have no obstacles, there are definitely obstacles.
Actually I have said it earlier, that knowledge is the first thing that every trader must have, knowledge is a very important thing to have in any case, including trading.

I think we will all agree on this, knowledge, experience, capital and so on are the basic things that we must have if we want to become a trader.

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices....
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on February 17, 2024, 12:46:28 PM

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices.


Capital and knowledge are really   important, because we should have both if we want to invest or do trading. I think there are many ways to gain capital, we can participate in bounty campaign and get rewards.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on February 17, 2024, 03:37:01 PM

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices.


Capital and knowledge are really   important, because we should have both if we want to invest or do trading. I think there are many ways to gain capital, we can participate in bounty campaign and get rewards.

In my opinion, knowledge is more important than capital.  Because knowledge and experience are more expensive than capital.  Maybe we can earn rewards from participating in bounties here.  But knowledge needs along time to learn.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 17, 2024, 10:16:10 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

As far as I know and as far as trading is concerned there is nobody that doesn't experience losses in Trading. Trading is all about monitoring the market movement with the use of some trading tools like price chart indicator and other tools that makes Traders or crypto expert to easily analyze the possible direction of the market. Sometimes,  the  predictions may be very accurate while in some cases, revers can be the case. The crypto market is very dynamic and as such, loses is inevitable which can happen to anyone, even experts.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 18, 2024, 10:53:05 AM

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices.


Capital and knowledge are really   important, because we should have both if we want to invest or do trading. I think there are many ways to gain capital, we can participate in bounty campaign and get rewards.

In my opinion, knowledge is more important than capital.  Because knowledge and experience are more expensive than capital.  Maybe we can earn rewards from participating in bounties here.  But knowledge needs along time to learn.
Yes, knowledge is the most expensive or the most important thing. But I think this is something that is balanced so that we are more comfortable in doing it, both capital and knowledge.

Maybe we will have different opinions on this, but that is normal because we will have our own views, and it can come from where I am, it can come from experience or other things.

But we certainly agree that knowledge and capital are something that a trader should have, and the emphasis is probably on knowledge.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: tjtonmoy on February 19, 2024, 08:04:42 PM
Everyone loses in trading and it is a basic thing. Doesn't matter if you are a professional or a newbie in trading, you will face losses. No one is immune to this because your loss could be someone else's profit and vice versa. You make profit out of someone else's loss. So someone have to lose in order for you to gain profit.

When it comes to the professionals, they do lose but they have created their own strategy so that they don't lose a huge amount of money. They know how to minimize the losses and gain more profit over time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 19, 2024, 08:42:27 PM
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That is true. What I think about loss in trading is that losses are also the part of trading. So trading is made with both loss and profit. And this trading system works in such a way that if one loses, another trader will gain from the opposite end, and this trading works in this mechanism. If no one loses here then it will not be possible to gain from here.
I will also agree with you that professional traders also take losses, but the type of their losses is exceptional, as usual is new and without understanding, professional traders must not be confused with traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on February 20, 2024, 07:32:58 AM

Everyone loses in trading and it is a basic thing. Doesn't matter if you are a professional or a newbie in trading, you will face losses. No one is immune to this because your loss could be someone else's profit and vice versa. You make profit out of someone else's loss. So someone have to lose in order for you to gain profit.

When it comes to the professionals, they do lose but they have created their own strategy so that they don't lose a huge amount of money. They know how to minimize the losses and gain more profit over time.


That's true , a professional trader know how to minimize the losses and gain more profit over time. But it needs along time  to gain knowledge, experience and skill become a professional trader. Every trader ever lost, but we learn from our mistake.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on February 20, 2024, 06:43:19 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal for any trader to face losses if it is not possible to take trades on time. I have been trading with Bitcoin for 3 years now but somehow still didn't know the right way to do this market research. Losses are sometimes encountered because trades are wrongly observed by the green candlesticks of the market at the right time leading to subsequent losses. The price of Bitcoin is always going up and down due to which the market goes down at any time and the investors or traders then incur losses.
very true, there is no trader who is right to predict the price of bitcoin even if the prediction is correct it is also just a coincidence and most people are not right in predicting bitcoin, because no one knows the exact movement of bitcoin.
I have been trading for 6 years but it is very rare to predict Bitcoin correctly, only 70% of the time, and we can find information about the movement of Bitcoin from that, we know how Bitcoin will progress in the future or not.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on February 20, 2024, 06:49:05 PM

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices.


Capital and knowledge are really   important, because we should have both if we want to invest or do trading. I think there are many ways to gain capital, we can participate in bounty campaign and get rewards.
That's right, the good thing is that you have to have knowledge in trading and capital, because they both depend on each other, if not one of them can't run well.
I was also a beginner in trading without any trading knowledge and I often suffered losses because I didn't have enough knowledge. From all that I tried to learn and look for information on how to trade well..
The point is that if you have both of them, you can trade 80% like a professional trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: tjtonmoy on February 20, 2024, 08:34:01 PM
That's true , a professional trader know how to minimize the losses and gain more profit over time. But it needs along time  to gain knowledge, experience and skill become a professional trader. Every trader ever lost, but we learn from our mistake.
I want to add this too. Losing is not a bad thing if you can understand what was the cause of that loss and fix that in order to make your strategy more stronger. But that only applies when you know what mistake led you to that loss. Losing also helps understand your emotion towards every scenarios and with proper maintenance over those emotion we can learn how to control them.
Emotion control has to be the top priority on when it comes to trading. Because it determines the success of your strategy and gives us the idea of  how much profit we are going to make.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Rubel007 on February 21, 2024, 01:04:23 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal for any trader to face losses if it is not possible to take trades on time. I have been trading with Bitcoin for 3 years now but somehow still didn't know the right way to do this market research. Losses are sometimes encountered because trades are wrongly observed by the green candlesticks of the market at the right time leading to subsequent losses. The price of Bitcoin is always going up and down due to which the market goes down at any time and the investors or traders then incur losses.
very true, there is no trader who is right to predict the price of bitcoin even if the prediction is correct it is also just a coincidence and most people are not right in predicting bitcoin, because no one knows the exact movement of bitcoin.
I have been trading for 6 years but it is very rare to predict Bitcoin correctly, only 70% of the time, and we can find information about the movement of Bitcoin from that, we know how Bitcoin will progress in the future or not.
None of us know about the future of Bitcoin. Can't even predict what stage it will take in the future. But we can make some guesses considering its history and movements. Although that estimate will not be exact, we can get a general idea. But we can never underestimate the prediction of Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin price changes later by prediction. It is true that the prediction will not be 100% correct but depending on the prediction an investor is able to invest. Prediction is a common thing in trading business on which trading is conducted.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on February 21, 2024, 03:52:51 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal for any trader to face losses if it is not possible to take trades on time. I have been trading with Bitcoin for 3 years now but somehow still didn't know the right way to do this market research. Losses are sometimes encountered because trades are wrongly observed by the green candlesticks of the market at the right time leading to subsequent losses. The price of Bitcoin is always going up and down due to which the market goes down at any time and the investors or traders then incur losses.
very true, there is no trader who is right to predict the price of bitcoin even if the prediction is correct it is also just a coincidence and most people are not right in predicting bitcoin, because no one knows the exact movement of bitcoin.
I have been trading for 6 years but it is very rare to predict Bitcoin correctly, only 70% of the time, and we can find information about the movement of Bitcoin from that, we know how Bitcoin will progress in the future or not.
None of us know about the future of Bitcoin. Can't even predict what stage it will take in the future. But we can make some guesses considering its history and movements. Although that estimate will not be exact, we can get a general idea. But we can never underestimate the prediction of Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin price changes later by prediction. It is true that the prediction will not be 100% correct but depending on the prediction an investor is able to invest. Prediction is a common thing in trading business on which trading is conducted.
No one knows on what the future holds or what would the future brings on which it would really be just that totally random even in every second movement there's no way that it could really be that known. This is why its really that good to think that you shouldnt be expecting to be profitable all the time because there's no such thing about being a perfect trader. You would really experiencing losing money and this is part of trading and this is something that we must really be that able to realize so that we wont really be finding ourselves to be that desperate
because if you do then this is where mistakes would really be starting from and this is something that we must avoid in the first place.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 21, 2024, 12:05:19 PM

Capital without knowledge is the same as hoping for luck, so knowledge without capital will make it more difficult for us to carry out trading practices.


Capital and knowledge are really   important, because we should have both if we want to invest or do trading. I think there are many ways to gain capital, we can participate in bounty campaign and get rewards.
That's right, the good thing is that you have to have knowledge in trading and capital, because they both depend on each other, if not one of them can't run well.
I was also a beginner in trading without any trading knowledge and I often suffered losses because I didn't have enough knowledge. From all that I tried to learn and look for information on how to trade well..
The point is that if you have both of them, you can trade 80% like a professional trader.
Or in other words, it increases our chances of becoming a good trader and can minimize losses. Many things we must have to become a good trader and the most basic thing is knowledge and capital.

Apart from the two things said, mentality is also very much needed in trading, yes we are required to be able to control emotions that are sometimes carried away in trading. whether we become panicked, or we become greedy and so on. Basic things like this we must have in the trading journey.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: trendcoin on February 21, 2024, 12:11:38 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

I define myself as a trader, not a holder, but not a professional trader. Professional traders also lose money, but they put stop losses on their trades. So, their losses are minimized. There is a saying in our country that profit and loss are brothers. No one can make money all the time. Sometimes we lose money, and sometimes we make money. The important thing is for us to know where to stop...
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 21, 2024, 02:37:57 PM
Had it been that the professionals don't loose money on trades, maybe we will all by now fall under the categories of these professional traders because we cant afford to loose our trading fund, but things aren't like the way we sometimes perceived them to be, everyone is attached to the same risk on trading, what only makes the difference is in the kind of trade we make and how we best understand it, even the professionals and institutional traders loss and their own fall is more heavier than our when we compare them, just as they also stand to earn more than we do because of their high trading capital.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Geey on February 21, 2024, 05:42:37 PM
Had it been that the professionals don't loose money on trades, maybe we will all by now fall under the categories of these professional traders because we cant afford to loose our trading fund, but things aren't like the way we sometimes perceived them to be, everyone is attached to the same risk on trading, what only makes the difference is in the kind of trade we make and how we best understand it, even the professionals and institutional traders loss and their own fall is more heavier than our when we compare them, just as they also stand to earn more than we do because of their high trading capital.
That's right, if professional traders don't experience losses, that means we are also professional traders... in the world of trading, we will definitely experience situations above and below, namely getting profits and losses, the only thing that differentiates a person in trading is the different way of trading and the coins he trades, even in knowledge of market movements as well.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: therozaq on February 22, 2024, 09:39:52 AM

That's right, if professional traders don't experience losses, that means we are also professional traders... in the world of trading, we will definitely experience situations above and below, namely getting profits and losses, the only thing that differentiates a person in trading is the different way of trading and the coins he trades, even in knowledge of market movements as well.

I think a professional trader must have experienced a loss, as explained previously, profits and losses in investing are normal. We must be able to manage our funds so that the profits are greater than the losses. Every business will bring profits and losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 22, 2024, 02:37:26 PM
Had it been that the professionals don't loose money on trades, maybe we will all by now fall under the categories of these professional traders because we cant afford to loose our trading fund, but things aren't like the way we sometimes perceived them to be, everyone is attached to the same risk on trading, what only makes the difference is in the kind of trade we make and how we best understand it, even the professionals and institutional traders loss and their own fall is more heavier than our when we compare them, just as they also stand to earn more than we do because of their high trading capital.
That's right, if professional traders don't experience losses, that means we are also professional traders... in the world of trading, we will definitely experience situations above and below, namely getting profits and losses, the only thing that differentiates a person in trading is the different way of trading and the coins he trades, even in knowledge of market movements as well.

The thing is that professional traders are people, who make mistakes and can make wrong moves, the professional trader can make the move he believes can make him win and the market can make him retreat because his move can go against it and that's where it all ends. , and sometimes it is normal, sometimes the bitcoin and any crypto market is very volatile, logic always fails and many errors can be generated.

But the advantage of professional traders is that they always operate with large sums of money and if they make a mistake it is very easy to get their money back, because a good move implies that they may have won, that is so, when we are generating ways To do things better we always have to consider doing them well, but in trading things always happen like this, in an unexpected or volatile way, this is very common except that professionals do make mistakes and lose large sums of money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Google+ on February 27, 2024, 03:14:08 PM
I think a professional trader must have experienced a loss, as explained previously, profits and losses in investing are normal. We must be able to manage our funds so that the profits are greater than the losses. Every business will bring profits and losses.
Everyone really wants to be a professional trader, but unfortunately, it is not easy to build it all, and as you mentioned, you need a lot of money to try something new, and there is no guarantee whether it will make a profit or not, which means that professional traders are not easy to do. achieved and had to go through a lot of experience.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on February 27, 2024, 04:58:38 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

It is normal for any trader to face losses if it is not possible to take trades on time. I have been trading with Bitcoin for 3 years now but somehow still didn't know the right way to do this market research. Losses are sometimes encountered because trades are wrongly observed by the green candlesticks of the market at the right time leading to subsequent losses. The price of Bitcoin is always going up and down due to which the market goes down at any time and the investors or traders then incur losses.
very true, there is no trader who is right to predict the price of bitcoin even if the prediction is correct it is also just a coincidence and most people are not right in predicting bitcoin, because no one knows the exact movement of bitcoin.
I have been trading for 6 years but it is very rare to predict Bitcoin correctly, only 70% of the time, and we can find information about the movement of Bitcoin from that, we know how Bitcoin will progress in the future or not.

That's right, because all traders are predictors, so it also means that no one really knows what the exact price destination value of a coin will be, whether it's an uptrend or a downtrend. No matter how veteran or expert you are, you can't really determine it; everything will still fall into speculation based on the analysis of all the predictors.

But becoming a professional trader is not easy to achieve because it requires the right process and time. Therefore,  you must really have a broad idea or knowledge of crypto trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bang_ari on March 02, 2024, 01:40:11 PM
Yeah, definitely been there. Lost some bucks in the early days chasing hype. But over time, learned to be more strategic, disciplined, and not let emotions drive decisions. It's about resilience and staying in the game for the wins.

It's part of the game. But what sets them apart is their risk management and ability to learn from losses. It's all about minimizing risks and maximizing gains in the long haul.  8)
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 05, 2024, 01:56:36 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
I don't think there are any professionals in trading or investing because it's a game of loss and profit and it's already programmed that one can't actually predict what happens next. it's all luck. The only thing that sets professionals apart is that they learn from their mistakes and use it to improve their skills, which makes them more cautious and vigilant overall. Anything related to cryptocurrency should be handled carefully because there is nothing safe about it. Thus, the key is to exercise self-control and manage risks.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gideon99 on March 05, 2024, 11:17:18 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

In crypto trading there are risk you may loss or gain, professional traders loses money dear . No one is right of the time and even the most experience trader can make mistake or lose money during trading. It common for professional traders have gain ratio of 50% or less than that. The most important thing to know being right all the time is learning from your pass trade and loses and developing a unique strategy to trade.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on March 06, 2024, 12:58:41 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

In crypto trading there are risk you may loss or gain, professional traders loses money dear . No one is right of the time and even the most experience trader can make mistake or lose money during trading. It common for professional traders have gain ratio of 50% or less than that. The most important thing to know being right all the time is learning from your pass trade and loses and developing a unique strategy to trade.
People should realize this on their first engagement with trading but sadly they would really be still needing to pass up those huge losses before they would really be able to make out those realizations which this is the sad reality i should say. Everyone loses money but the difference about those professionals or veterans is that they do know on what they are doing.
They do have that experience on whats next that they should gonna do.Whereas those noobs would actually be that doing the different.
This is why it is really that wrong to assume out that there's such thing about being a perfect trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: |MINER| on March 06, 2024, 04:01:50 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Obviously, professional and experience traders also face losses in trading, but the losses are definitely not the kind that a newbie trader faces. Professional and experience traders who face losses I think are better off because they often learn something new from mistakes. And besides, one trader loses, another trader earns profit on the other side. If someone was always making profit here then it wouldn't be called trading. So all kinds of people in trading must have faced loss several times in their life.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: elbans89 on March 06, 2024, 05:57:57 AM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Obviously, professional and experience traders also face losses in trading, but the losses are definitely not the kind that a newbie trader faces. Professional and experience traders who face losses I think are better off because they often learn something new from mistakes. And besides, one trader loses, another trader earns profit on the other side. If someone was always making profit here then it wouldn't be called trading. So all kinds of people in trading must have faced loss several times in their life.

The right thing is, all traders have experienced losses. because our analysis sometimes goes wrong. no analysis can be 100% correct. Yes, at least we can manage our assets, the profits are greater than the losses. because that's the world of trade and the world of investment.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: pacar_tiri on March 09, 2024, 10:21:03 PM
The right thing is, all traders have experienced losses. because our analysis sometimes goes wrong. no analysis can be 100% correct. Yes, at least we can manage our assets, the profits are greater than the losses. because that's the world of trade and the world of investment.
Traders who have become professionals have previously experienced a lot of losses because as you mentioned analysis can never be accurate so sometimes they lose money, but with experience like that it will provide a way to become a professional and of course the capital that has been sacrificed is very large.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on March 10, 2024, 01:48:24 PM
The right thing is, all traders have experienced losses. because our analysis sometimes goes wrong. no analysis can be 100% correct. Yes, at least we can manage our assets, the profits are greater than the losses. because that's the world of trade and the world of investment.
Traders who have become professionals have previously experienced a lot of losses because as you mentioned analysis can never be accurate so sometimes they lose money, but with experience like that it will provide a way to become a professional and of course the capital that has been sacrificed is very large.

A professional trader will learn from past experiences and failures. they will develop their ability to gain profits and minimize losses. that is what makes them survive as traders
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 10, 2024, 03:20:27 PM
A professional trader will learn from past experiences and failures. they will develop their ability to gain profits and minimize losses. that is what makes them survive as traders

You are right, mate. Experienced traders become more profitable in trading because they have already developed strategies and learned from their several failed trades, but that doesn't mean that they don't also experience losses most of the time. Trading is about profit and loss; as long as the market is dynamic, traders will always face losses most of the time, while newbies are the people who face losses the most. 
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: kulkhan on March 10, 2024, 07:17:38 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Trading is always risky. Here profit and loss both are exist. No one can tell i will be profitable in trading. But i think experienced traders can profit most of time. But they also loss money from trading. Trading is not too easy. And who ever experienced or non experienced everyone will get profit and loss.
Even professional traders become experienced through loss in trading. So it is Acctually true that all are ever experienced or non experienced even professional or nonprofessional everyone will profit and loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Rubel007 on March 10, 2024, 11:36:02 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

In crypto trading there are risk you may loss or gain, professional traders loses money dear . No one is right of the time and even the most experience trader can make mistake or lose money during trading. It common for professional traders have gain ratio of 50% or less than that. The most important thing to know being right all the time is learning from your pass trade and loses and developing a unique strategy to trade.
Trading will never guarantee anyone no matter how experienced he is or not. But those of us who are trading or those who are experienced may be a bit ahead in the field of trading. Some traders are able to use their experience to quickly multiply their wealth, but there is no guarantee that everyone can do it. Even though many traders have experience they lose their assets. It is an unpredictable platform where anything can happen. I have heard from some professional traders who have told me about their losses. If a trader could have profited from trading through experience, they might be in higher positions today.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 11, 2024, 12:33:43 AM
Yes they do loss money in trading, but experience and professional traders profit most of the time, using their stop loss and bots to assist them...
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: taufik123 on March 11, 2024, 07:13:04 PM
Yes they do loss money in trading, but experience and professional traders profit most of the time, using their stop loss and bots to assist them...
Often make a profit because they know when to enter and when to exit, they master technical and fundamental analysis.
Average profits will be higher than the losses incurred, but even so they also experience greater losses.

The use of tools, indicators, Stop Loss will help in maximizing trades, but the use of Bots will not be fully done.
Professional traders don't trust bots completely, they tend to do analysis manually and buy and sell manually.
Bots will probably only help a few percent.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 11, 2024, 10:19:22 PM
I have just talked with a friend of mine who had about 300-400k dollars, and he lost a good chunk of money, he made all of that money from trading, he has been trading for 3 years, and he didn't really made all of his money here, he was already a rich person from his ordinary life, but he put in 20k into crypto as well, which he turned to over 300k (and less than 400k). In the last week, he has been bleeding money because he was so insistent on bitcoin price finally starting to fall, and it didn't and that made him lose a lot of money as well. I believe that's sort of an issue and he is now under 300k.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on March 13, 2024, 03:40:49 AM
I have just talked with a friend of mine who had about 300-400k dollars, and he lost a good chunk of money, he made all of that money from trading, he has been trading for 3 years, and he didn't really made all of his money here, he was already a rich person from his ordinary life, but he put in 20k into crypto as well, which he turned to over 300k (and less than 400k). In the last week, he has been bleeding money because he was so insistent on bitcoin price finally starting to fall, and it didn't and that made him lose a lot of money as well. I believe that's sort of an issue and he is now under 300k.
When I see what you described to your friend, it looks like he is trading futures, where if he guesses the price movement incorrectly, there will be a margin call or liquidation, resulting in a loss of capital that was risked for trading, because it seems ridiculous why the price doesn't go down but instead made himself lose a lot of money? because if prices don't go down, your money will still be safe and your friends won't suffer losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: therozaq on March 13, 2024, 07:04:40 AM

Trading will never guarantee anyone no matter how experienced he is or not. But those of us who are trading or those who are experienced may be a bit ahead in the field of trading. Some traders are able to use their experience to quickly multiply their wealth, but there is no guarantee that everyone can do it. Even though many traders have experience they lose their assets. It is an unpredictable platform where anything can happen. I have heard from some professional traders who have told me about their losses. If a trader could have profited from trading through experience, they might be in higher positions today.

A professional trader also experiences losses, because we don't always get profits in trading. It's not easy to predict prices in the short term, because we all know cryptocurrencies are volatile. So we can make a profit, but also sometimes lose. It's just a matter of how we manage it.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on March 13, 2024, 07:18:37 PM
In crypto trading there are risk you may loss or gain, professional traders loses money dear . No one is right of the time and even the most experience trader can make mistake or lose money during trading. It common for professional traders have gain ratio of 50% or less than that. The most important thing to know being right all the time is learning from your pass trade and loses and developing a unique strategy to trade.

There is no one who does not loss money in trading because trading is not an Easy thing and professional trader also loss money but they don't leave by making mistakes but they learn from their mistakes which works as a stairs for them to get success in future.

They are not stick to one strategy but they often adopt new thing to make a better use of their knowledge and to reduce losses. It is not possible that professionals trader will not loss any amount but newbies loss more often than professional traders because newbies will takes time to learn something new each time according to the market.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 13, 2024, 09:24:41 PM
Yep, sometimes they also lose but don't share it openly with their media. It did put him at a loss, but profits from other wins managed to offset the losses. That's how trading works, where you have to be able to win more than you lose so that you can still make a profit and survive in the world of trading.

The characteristics of them still making money from trading are that they are still surviving in the world of trading to this day. I am sure that someone who can make a lot of money from an activity will continue to maintain that activity.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 14, 2024, 02:20:07 PM
Yep, sometimes they also lose but don't share it openly with their media. It did put him at a loss, but profits from other wins managed to offset the losses. That's how trading works, where you have to be able to win more than you lose so that you can still make a profit and survive in the world of trading.

The characteristics of them still making money from trading are that they are still surviving in the world of trading to this day. I am sure that someone who can make a lot of money from an activity will continue to maintain that activity.
No one will be safe from losses in trading, but the difference is that professional traders can compensate for it as you said. The thing that makes them like that is because they have extensive knowledge, so they will be able to recover quickly from the losses they experience.

You are also right that they will not publish their losses, and usually even a professional trader will be more inclined not to show that he is a professional trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on March 15, 2024, 03:23:11 PM
Yep, sometimes they also lose but don't share it openly with their media. It did put him at a loss, but profits from other wins managed to offset the losses. That's how trading works, where you have to be able to win more than you lose so that you can still make a profit and survive in the world of trading.

The characteristics of them still making money from trading are that they are still surviving in the world of trading to this day. I am sure that someone who can make a lot of money from an activity will continue to maintain that activity.

That's right, their profits are higher than their losses, which is what makes them survive in the world of trading. They can always manage their money in trading, manage their emotions and have almost accurate analysis.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Google+ on March 15, 2024, 11:07:34 PM
That's right, their profits are higher than their losses, which is what makes them survive in the world of trading. They can always manage their money in trading, manage their emotions and have almost accurate analysis.
In cryptocurrency trading places, everyone can make money easily, all they need to do is carry out analysis, have a lot of capital and be able to control their patience, with these three components they will automatically make a profit, which of course has to go into coins that have good potential.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 15, 2024, 11:22:38 PM
In cryptocurrency trading places, everyone can make money easily, all they need to do is carry out analysis, have a lot of capital and be able to control their patience, with these three components they will automatically make a profit, which of course has to go into coins that have good potential.
Because this is about %, so actually the amount of initial money will only affect the size of the profit. If only high discipline can be applied in their trading strategy, even small amounts of money will still be able to work optimally with a high win rate and also be wiser in making decisions.

Small capital money can also be used as a strategy for conducting experiments, and also in the world of buying and selling using small capital money does not really pose a big threat to the perpetrator, so here learning how the world of trading works can be a good thing too by starting with money. small.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: debra on March 15, 2024, 11:26:40 PM
That's right, their profits are higher than their losses, which is what makes them survive in the world of trading. They can always manage their money in trading, manage their emotions and have almost accurate analysis.
We don't know about their profits and their losses. No one can know it well, only those traders know it. The main point is they have a strong trust with crypto that's why they can survive in crypto and be professional traders. Sure, they must have a good mentality, knows to deal with emotion, and have a good money management. It is all the basic of professional traders.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: TopT3ns on March 17, 2024, 12:38:42 PM
No one will be safe from losses in trading, but the difference is that professional traders can compensate for it as you said. The thing that makes them like that is because they have extensive knowledge, so they will be able to recover quickly from the losses they experience.

You are also right that they will not publish their losses, and usually even a professional trader will be more inclined not to show that he is a professional trader.
To make trading safe from losses, there are several ways that must be paid attention to, one of which is to control the emotions that often arise, sometimes when the price rises you prefer to keep waiting until the price rises higher, but some time later the price falls without your knowledge. In the end, you don't get a profit, instead you only get a loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 17, 2024, 01:55:46 PM
No one will be safe from losses in trading, but the difference is that professional traders can compensate for it as you said. The thing that makes them like that is because they have extensive knowledge, so they will be able to recover quickly from the losses they experience.

You are also right that they will not publish their losses, and usually even a professional trader will be more inclined not to show that he is a professional trader.
To make trading safe from losses, there are several ways that must be paid attention to, one of which is to control the emotions that often arise, sometimes when the price rises you prefer to keep waiting until the price rises higher, but some time later the price falls without your knowledge. In the end, you don't get a profit, instead you only get a loss.
Therefore, setting a profit target will be very useful when trading, no matter how big the increase will be, we must be able to stick to the commitment that we set at the start.

Not only in making a profit, but when we are experiencing a loss we also have to set a stop loss to minimize even bigger losses. This can be done as long as we can be disciplined with something that makes us good traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Rubel007 on March 17, 2024, 04:56:01 PM
Yep, sometimes they also lose but don't share it openly with their media. It did put him at a loss, but profits from other wins managed to offset the losses. That's how trading works, where you have to be able to win more than you lose so that you can still make a profit and survive in the world of trading.

The characteristics of them still making money from trading are that they are still surviving in the world of trading to this day. I am sure that someone who can make a lot of money from an activity will continue to maintain that activity.
No one will be safe from losses in trading, but the difference is that professional traders can compensate for it as you said. The thing that makes them like that is because they have extensive knowledge, so they will be able to recover quickly from the losses they experience.

You are also right that they will not publish their losses, and usually even a professional trader will be more inclined not to show that he is a professional trader.
Yes trading is a risky business. If one tries to profit by entirety this platform without sufficient knowledge, he will lose rather than profit. Moreover, those who have sufficient knowledge in this field are also not safe because they too cannot give any guarantee of profit. But those who increase the knowledge will try to reduce the loss comparatively. It is normal for a trader to lose. Those who are knowledgeable enough on this platform take losses easily and try to gain more profit after learning from it. There are no experienced traders who have never lost. Trading platform if you don't lose there is no opportunity to make profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Primo1760 on March 17, 2024, 05:08:04 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Be it a professional trader or an amateur trader, both have definitely lost money on trading platforms. Because one can never be good without losing something, behind being good there must be pain of loss. Especially those who trade on futures trading platforms must have lost money because no one can be found who hasn't lost money on futures trading platforms. Money must be lost at the peak of the market ups and downs. However, to protect yourself from the trading platform, you must use trading strategies.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Thyplaymaker on March 17, 2024, 05:36:28 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
being a professional trader doesn't give you the ability to neglect losses in trading, because in trading one can Make profit or losses, but most time some losses are more than their profit. Most time due to reckless trading by those that don't have proper knowledge about trading. The different between an experienced trader and an amateurs is the experience and knowledge they possessed. And before one will get to point of becoming an experienced trader he or she experience alot of losses and as an experienced trader still experiencing it , but they can easily manage their losses than normies in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on March 17, 2024, 09:07:09 PM
Be it a professional trader or an amateur trader, both have definitely lost money on trading platforms. Because one can never be good without losing something, behind being good there must be pain of loss. Especially those who trade on futures trading platforms must have lost money because no one can be found who hasn't lost money on futures trading platforms. Money must be lost at the peak of the market ups and downs. However, to protect yourself from the trading platform, you must use trading strategies.

Though one cannot protect oneself completely, having enough knowledge and understanding about the market and all trading practices can help someone reduce the risks to a great extent. Some people might think that expert traders are always earning profit with every trade they make, but that isn't true, even experts face losses because the market is extremely unpredictable.

So a trader, when entering the market, needs to make sure that they gain enough knowledge beforehand so that they don't lose all their money before they manage to become a stable trader because if you manage the ups and downs for some time, then you start gaining profits over time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 18, 2024, 05:12:24 AM
That's right, their profits are higher than their losses, which is what makes them survive in the world of trading. They can always manage their money in trading, manage their emotions and have almost accurate analysis.
In cryptocurrency trading places, everyone can make money easily, all they need to do is carry out analysis, have a lot of capital and be able to control their patience, with these three components they will automatically make a profit, which of course has to go into coins that have good potential.
If you find it very easy to earn money then you share those simple methods with us so that we can easily earn money by trading or investing. I have been involved in trading and investing for a long time and I always try to learn about this subject but till now I have not found trading or investing easy.  It's not like I have no idea about the market, I have enough knowledge about the market and I can do market analysis but still I find investing and trading difficult. If you have any such trading or investment strategy through which we can earn money easily then you must share it here.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: MRY on March 18, 2024, 11:40:15 PM
That's right, their profits are higher than their losses, which is what makes them survive in the world of trading. They can always manage their money in trading, manage their emotions and have almost accurate analysis.
In cryptocurrency trading places, everyone can make money easily, all they need to do is carry out analysis, have a lot of capital and be able to control their patience, with these three components they will automatically make a profit, which of course has to go into coins that have good potential.
If you find it very easy to earn money then you share those simple methods with us so that we can easily earn money by trading or investing. I have been involved in trading and investing for a long time and I always try to learn about this subject but till now I have not found trading or investing easy.  It's not like I have no idea about the market, I have enough knowledge about the market and I can do market analysis but still I find investing and trading difficult. If you have any such trading or investment strategy through which we can earn money easily then you must share it here.
Investing and trading doesn't need to be complicated. Investing means you only need to buy and store Bitcoin for a long period of time. Meanwhile, trading means you can use your analytical skills to carry out daily trading which will provide additional income for you so that the assets you own will grow.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PM
No one will be safe from losses in trading, but the difference is that professional traders can compensate for it as you said. The thing that makes them like that is because they have extensive knowledge, so they will be able to recover quickly from the losses they experience.

You are also right that they will not publish their losses, and usually even a professional trader will be more inclined not to show that he is a professional trader.
Yes trading is a risky business. If one tries to profit by entirety this platform without sufficient knowledge, he will lose rather than profit. Moreover, those who have sufficient knowledge in this field are also not safe because they too cannot give any guarantee of profit. But those who increase the knowledge will try to reduce the loss comparatively. It is normal for a trader to lose. Those who are knowledgeable enough on this platform take losses easily and try to gain more profit after learning from it. There are no experienced traders who have never lost. Trading platform if you don't lose there is no opportunity to make profit.
Without knowledge, everything we do will not produce results, especially in trading, because in trading there is a lot that we have to learn and master. We can't just rely on luck, maybe we will be lucky enough once, but in my opinion there will be more failure.

We have to understand that in the world of trading the risks are very big, if we can't afford to lose money, then it's better not to do it at all, because when we experience that it might make us regret it. So consider it carefully.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: elbans89 on March 20, 2024, 03:53:28 PM

Without knowledge, everything we do will not produce results, especially in trading, because in trading there is a lot that we have to learn and master. We can't just rely on luck, maybe we will be lucky enough once, but in my opinion there will be more failure.

We have to understand that in the world of trading the risks are very big, if we can't afford to lose money, then it's better not to do it at all, because when we experience that it might make us regret it. So consider it carefully.

If you don't have experience and knowledge about trading, it's better to become a holder which is safer and equally profitable, because being a trader is not easy, you even have to be prepared to lose if our analysis is not correct. I tried to learn trading, but it seems I'm not very skilled at it, I still often lose.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 20, 2024, 05:51:02 PM

Without knowledge, everything we do will not produce results, especially in trading, because in trading there is a lot that we have to learn and master. We can't just rely on luck, maybe we will be lucky enough once, but in my opinion there will be more failure.

We have to understand that in the world of trading the risks are very big, if we can't afford to lose money, then it's better not to do it at all, because when we experience that it might make us regret it. So consider it carefully.

If you don't have experience and knowledge about trading, it's better to become a holder which is safer and equally profitable, because being a trader is not easy, you even have to be prepared to lose if our analysis is not correct. I tried to learn trading, but it seems I'm not very skilled at it, I still often lose.

Yes, that's right, that's the best way, while there is little known in this field of the crypto space. Because no one chooses defeat, all traders experience it, whether they are rich or poor. And that's why professional traders still lose because the market is unpredictable.

But it's still different because what you really know and how you study trading is like a trading course, so it becomes skills when you build knowledge here, although it's hard to get because it really requires time, perseverance, determination, and above all, passion.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on March 20, 2024, 09:18:21 PM
If you don't have experience and knowledge about trading, it's better to become a holder which is safer and equally profitable, because being a trader is not easy, you even have to be prepared to lose if our analysis is not correct. I tried to learn trading, but it seems I'm not very skilled at it, I still often lose.

Well, holding cannot always be equally profitable with trading but as you said, if someone doesn't have much knowledge about the market and knows they won't be able to make trades regularly and manage their trades in a good way, they should never do it because trading without knowledge will do nothing other than bringing a lot of risks in their way.
Holding can be pretty profitable sometimes, especially if a person has invested in the right cryptocurrencies, but it usually takes a lot of time for an investment to turn profitable due to the fact that Bitcoin and the whole market moves in a cyclical pattern so one needs to wait for years before they see the assets they are holding gaining value in real time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on March 21, 2024, 08:23:28 AM

Well, holding cannot always be equally profitable with trading but as you said, if someone doesn't have much knowledge about the market and knows they won't be able to make trades regularly and manage their trades in a good way, they should never do it because trading without knowledge will do nothing other than bringing a lot of risks in their way.
Holding can be pretty profitable sometimes, especially if a person has invested in the right cryptocurrencies, but it usually takes a lot of time for an investment to turn profitable due to the fact that Bitcoin and the whole market moves in a cyclical pattern so one needs to wait for years before they see the assets they are holding gaining value in real time.

Holding for the long term is more profitable than daily trading, that's according to me who is not very skilled in daily trading. but maybe if we have expertise in daily trading maybe we will get bigger profits.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 21, 2024, 06:12:05 PM

Without knowledge, everything we do will not produce results, especially in trading, because in trading there is a lot that we have to learn and master. We can't just rely on luck, maybe we will be lucky enough once, but in my opinion there will be more failure.

We have to understand that in the world of trading the risks are very big, if we can't afford to lose money, then it's better not to do it at all, because when we experience that it might make us regret it. So consider it carefully.

If you don't have experience and knowledge about trading, it's better to become a holder which is safer and equally profitable, because being a trader is not easy, you even have to be prepared to lose if our analysis is not correct. I tried to learn trading, but it seems I'm not very skilled at it, I still often lose.
We can learn while we invest and hold it for a long time. I believe it is this kind of process that will make us good traders if we are really interested in becoming a trader.

Everything requires a process, and in a process it will definitely take time. We can use that time to do other things such as investing in bitcoin which can provide profits if we are able to hold it in the long term. This is the best way in my opinion.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: KingsDen on March 21, 2024, 06:53:44 PM
If you don't have experience and knowledge about trading, it's better to become a holder which is safer and equally profitable, because being a trader is not easy, you even have to be prepared to lose if our analysis is not correct. I tried to learn trading, but it seems I'm not very skilled at it, I still often lose.

Well, holding cannot always be equally profitable with trading but as you said, if someone doesn't have much knowledge about the market and knows they won't be able to make trades regularly and manage their trades in a good way, they should never do it because trading without knowledge will do nothing other than bringing a lot of risks in their way.
Holding can be pretty profitable sometimes, especially if a person has invested in the right cryptocurrencies, but it usually takes a lot of time for an investment to turn profitable due to the fact that Bitcoin and the whole market moves in a cyclical pattern so one needs to wait for years before they see the assets they are holding gaining value in real time.
There is no doubt that a successful day trader will make more profit than a long time holder. But the emotional imbalance, the fear and the uncertainty that surrounds day trading makes it difficult for many people to learn it. And if you eventually decides to trade without knowing how to trade you would inevitably blow up your account. Day trading is actually not for everyone, however at a point in time each and every one of us has actually tried to trade and later we discovered that we are not good at it. But then everyone will eventually be good at holding as what it requires is entering the market at low and being patient.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ScamViruS on March 21, 2024, 07:00:51 PM
Holding for the long term is more profitable than daily trading, that's according to me who is not very skilled in daily trading. but maybe if we have expertise in daily trading maybe we will get bigger profits.
Long term holding is always profitable if invested in the right projects, and day trading is definitely for very experienced traders. Those who are not skilled enough should not go for day trading. I am speaking from my experience, I have faced many losses in day trading and those experiences are still bad experiences for me. Most of the profits I've made have been through holding. I still think I am not skilled enough to do day trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on March 22, 2024, 08:20:41 AM
Holding for the long term is more profitable than daily trading, that's according to me who is not very skilled in daily trading. but maybe if we have expertise in daily trading maybe we will get bigger profits.
Long term holding is always profitable if invested in the right projects, and day trading is definitely for very experienced traders. Those who are not skilled enough should not go for day trading. I am speaking from my experience, I have faced many losses in day trading and those experiences are still bad experiences for me. Most of the profits I've made have been through holding. I still think I am not skilled enough to do day trading.
It's true that by contributing to a project, it will make a profit if the project is successful and gets lots of investors, because currently many projects are dangerous because they have the potential to be a scam, so it's best to do more in-depth research to determine if the project is a scam or not. Daily trading does require good and precise analysis. If you are not yet skilled at daily trading, you can do long-term trading by holding Bitcoin for a very long time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on March 22, 2024, 08:52:51 AM
We can learn while we invest and hold it for a long time. I believe it is this kind of process that will make us good traders if we are really interested in becoming a trader.

Everything requires a process, and in a process it will definitely take time. We can use that time to do other things such as investing in bitcoin which can provide profits if we are able to hold it in the long term. This is the best way in my opinion.
All pro traders must also go through this stage first. That is, they go through a long learning process and they must have experienced failure but they don't give up and continue to learn and build experience and learn from that experience themselves so that they eventually become a pro trader. And yes everything requires a process and we don't need to rush. We just have to keep following the process and learn little by little.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on March 22, 2024, 01:20:06 PM
We can learn while we invest and hold it for a long time. I believe it is this kind of process that will make us good traders if we are really interested in becoming a trader.

Everything requires a process, and in a process it will definitely take time. We can use that time to do other things such as investing in bitcoin which can provide profits if we are able to hold it in the long term. This is the best way in my opinion.
All pro traders must also go through this stage first. That is, they go through a long learning process and they must have experienced failure but they don't give up and continue to learn and build experience and learn from that experience themselves so that they eventually become a pro trader. And yes everything requires a process and we don't need to rush. We just have to keep following the process and learn little by little.

Learning takes time and maybe sacrifices when we experience losses, but from those losses we learn not to lose in the same conditions, that's experience. A professional trader will learn from his past mistakes. they will learn to analyze and sharpen their predictions to be accurate.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bitbit97 on March 22, 2024, 01:25:46 PM
I think I understand why this topic got created. With the answers from here, people want to get proof or enough answers that "professional traders dont lose money", so they would start trading and learning such profitable profession. People still search for magic solution, magic button that closes all deal with profit. But I will disappoint people who are looking for such answer, conclusion or proof - professional traders are the same traders, they just make at profession and do it more frequent, and also lose money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 22, 2024, 03:18:16 PM
We can learn while we invest and hold it for a long time. I believe it is this kind of process that will make us good traders if we are really interested in becoming a trader.

Everything requires a process, and in a process it will definitely take time. We can use that time to do other things such as investing in bitcoin which can provide profits if we are able to hold it in the long term. This is the best way in my opinion.
All pro traders must also go through this stage first. That is, they go through a long learning process and they must have experienced failure but they don't give up and continue to learn and build experience and learn from that experience themselves so that they eventually become a pro trader. And yes everything requires a process and we don't need to rush. We just have to keep following the process and learn little by little.

Learning takes time and maybe sacrifices when we experience losses, but from those losses we learn not to lose in the same conditions, that's experience. A professional trader will learn from his past mistakes. they will learn to analyze and sharpen their predictions to be accurate.
Well, it's true, we have to be able to make sacrifices to achieve something we want. Sacrifice is the first step to starting the next steps, and in the world of trading that will be very applicable.

Without sacrifice we would not see professional traders today, because in the beginning they were also people who didn't understand anything. However, by studying and so on, they can finally understand and understand trading truly, which will make them become professional traders later.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on March 22, 2024, 08:12:57 PM
I think I understand why this topic got created. With the answers from here, people want to get proof or enough answers that "professional traders dont lose money", so they would start trading and learning such profitable profession. People still search for magic solution, magic button that closes all deal with profit. But I will disappoint people who are looking for such answer, conclusion or proof - professional traders are the same traders, they just make at profession and do it more frequent, and also lose money.

Every trader has experienced losses, no one always makes a profit. Because the crypto market is unpredictable. but a professional trader will cover their losses with profits because they trade frequently and they can manage their assets and minimize their losses. Their experience and skills in reading charts and analysis are also good, enabling them to achieve greater profits.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Google+ on March 23, 2024, 05:49:26 PM
Every trader has experienced losses, no one always makes a profit. Because the crypto market is unpredictable. but a professional trader will cover their losses with profits because they trade frequently and they can manage their assets and minimize their losses. Their experience and skills in reading charts and analysis are also good, enabling them to achieve greater profits.
Exactly, the losses incurred by these traders are the key to achieving success because with the experience gained, they will know what price movements will occur next. It is not easy to become a professional trader because they must have spent a lot of money looking for trading experience.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on March 23, 2024, 10:31:25 PM
Every trader has experienced losses, no one always makes a profit. Because the crypto market is unpredictable. but a professional trader will cover their losses with profits because they trade frequently and they can manage their assets and minimize their losses. Their experience and skills in reading charts and analysis are also good, enabling them to achieve greater profits.
Exactly, the losses incurred by these traders are the key to achieving success because with the experience gained, they will know what price movements will occur next. It is not easy to become a professional trader because they must have spent a lot of money looking for trading experience.

Every bitter experience will be a lesson for us so we don't repeat it again. Experience, knowledge and skills require time and sacrifice to obtain. To be a professional trader you have to have it all.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on March 24, 2024, 07:01:09 PM
Every bitter experience will be a lesson for us so we don't repeat it again. Experience, knowledge and skills require time and sacrifice to obtain. To be a professional trader you have to have it all.
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on March 24, 2024, 07:29:17 PM
Every bitter experience will be a lesson for us so we don't repeat it again. Experience, knowledge and skills require time and sacrifice to obtain. To be a professional trader you have to have it all.
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.
Once you do reach out that kind of situation on which you are already sustaining yourself to be that profitable on a unpredictable market then you could really be able to consider yourself to be a pro and this is something that not all would really be able to attain or achieve and this is why you could really be able to differentiate in between those pros and those average traders that do make
out that dealing in the market. Now on the question about losing up money then of course this isnt something that you could avoid or simply being inevitable because market is random
and there's no one on this world would be able to know on whats ahead. The edge of these pros is that they do really know on what they should gonna into those moments on which
this is unlike into those newbies or average traders who dont have the idea on whats going on. lol
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on March 25, 2024, 12:48:40 AM
Now on the question about losing up money then of course this isnt something that you could avoid or simply being inevitable because market is random
and there's no one on this world would be able to know on whats ahead.

Some people, especially newbies, think that those who are professionals or experts in the market would never fail trades because they know how to do research and both fundamental and technical analysis and if someone has that much knowledge, they can't face failure, however, that's not true.

No one becomes an expert just like that, everyone has to go through hardships and hurdles that are available everyone going in that specific path, and those who become pros or experts of a certain thing are the ones who never give up no matter how much hardships and difficulties they face along the way. That's the difference between a novice and an expert, a novice would give up very easily but a pro would stay, learn and grow, and never repeat the same mistakes again.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Kemarit on March 25, 2024, 02:39:00 AM
Every bitter experience will be a lesson for us so we don't repeat it again. Experience, knowledge and skills require time and sacrifice to obtain. To be a professional trader you have to have it all.
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.

There could be traders that might share some tips. The kw here is "might" and "some", as you have said, it took them time and money and effort to gain this needed experience. So unless they are being paid good money, they will not share their secrets.

But there could be trader that is more willing to be a mentor or would want to give tips for newbies but it might be seldom to see they in the trading industry. And with that, it's better to really work hard, daily grind and lose some money early in your trading career just to get those experience needed.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on March 30, 2024, 06:29:28 PM
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.

They feel hardship at starts and now they are not facing any difficulty because ease comes after hardships but if we talk about current traders and investors then they don't learn anything but invest blindly due to which they loss money but they don't accept their mistakes.

For becoming a professional trader you must have to spend money, loss money, spend your previous time and sacrifice your rest because everything needs sacrifices and nothing come without facing difficulties.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on March 30, 2024, 06:32:30 PM
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.

They feel hardship at starts and now they are not facing any difficulty because ease comes after hardships but if we talk about current traders and investors then they don't learn anything but invest blindly due to which they loss money but they don't accept their mistakes.

For becoming a professional trader you must have to spend money, loss money, spend your previous time and sacrifice your rest because everything needs sacrifices and nothing come without facing difficulties.
It would really be just that hard when you do start but on the time that you are already that gaining up such experience then you would really be finding yourself to be that gradually be able to handle the situation specially on dealing up with this unpredictable space. you arent really just that making yourself that able to familiarize things but also you would really be able to make yourself that be having that kind of emotion control on which this is something that you would really be needing up to develope specially when you are just that starting
but overtime then you would really be able to get a good hold off into this thing.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 30, 2024, 07:18:13 PM
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.
There are still professionals who sell the results of their thoughts in the form of trading signals, not the trading strategy used. This is a good way to increase the value of assets owned by a professional, because I am sure they trade with big money. There are lots of sellers of this kind of trading signals circulating on Telegram, and they look trustworthy.

Just be careful if you don't have enough trading skills and decide to subscribe to premium signals... there are still a lot of fraudulent methods these days, so make sure you find a trusted partner or platform.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on March 30, 2024, 07:41:29 PM

It would really be just that hard when you do start but on the time that you are already that gaining up such experience then you would really be finding yourself to be that gradually be able to handle the situation specially on dealing up with this unpredictable space. you arent really just that making yourself that able to familiarize things but also you would really be able to make yourself that be having that kind of emotion control on which this is something that you would really be needing up to develope specially when you are just that starting
but overtime then you would really be able to get a good hold off into this thing.
When you start you will also experience losses, because that is what usually happens to beginners when learning to trade. Trading requires experience, knowledge, expertise and proper analysis. We have to learn and start.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: kulkhan on March 30, 2024, 08:44:06 PM
Cryptocurrency market is always unpredictable. Profit and loss both are present in crypto currency trading. So expressed or non experienced both people some times will win and some times will loss i os normal. I saw some times fully new member win from trading and some times i saw huge experienced people loss big amount. So i think professional traders will also loser some times there has no doubt.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DragonF on March 31, 2024, 11:50:39 AM
Now on the question about losing up money then of course this isnt something that you could avoid or simply being inevitable because market is random
and there's no one in this world would be able to know what's ahead.

Some people, especially newbies, think that those who are professionals or experts in the market would never fail trades because they know how to do research and both fundamental and technical analysis and if someone has that much knowledge, they can't face failure, however, that's not true.

Losing is part of the trading experience, even professionals can lose money. However, losing money doesn't mean you will not profit in the long run. What traders measure is not the loss at a particular trading period but the overall trading performance at a particular period. It is at this time, that a professional can tell if he had a good trading or not.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 01, 2024, 04:49:57 PM
No one is above loosing money or making mistakes when it comes to trades, if it had been that the professionals doesn't loose money on trades, then everyone of us will prefer trading with these set of people or institutions in other to always stand on the safety part not to lose if it were to be that they engage trading by themselves, no one is more perfect above losing while trading because its all about risk taking.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 01, 2024, 09:05:56 PM
Its also not about losing money, its about the fact that we are dealing with something much bigger, that's the most important thing. I believe that we are going to face something much bigger if we try to not lose. The only way to never lose money is to never risk it and if yo udo not risk it then you are going to end up losing even more, because inflation happens and then when you do not make any money that results with you actually losing. So you need to lose money because you need to end up with some risks, and you would hope that you would make some money more than you lose.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: TopT3ns on April 02, 2024, 04:13:22 PM
No one is above loosing money or making mistakes when it comes to trades, if it had been that the professionals doesn't loose money on trades, then everyone of us will prefer trading with these set of people or institutions in other to always stand on the safety part not to lose if it were to be that they engage trading by themselves, no one is more perfect above losing while trading because its all about risk taking.
That's right, therefore all asset losses should be used as experience and important advice to be more careful before deciding to do something you want. Cryptocurrency is connected to human economic conditions personally because it uses real money which is converted into digital currency when carrying out transactions.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 04, 2024, 07:43:00 AM
Every bitter experience will be a lesson for us so we don't repeat it again. Experience, knowledge and skills require time and sacrifice to obtain. To be a professional trader you have to have it all.
Exactly, therefore a professional trader will not give a way to determine cryptocurrency price movements that will occur because he has sacrificed a lot of money to do research and will not share it for free. Becoming a professional trader is not as easy as you imagine.
If you look at the life of a professional trader, it will be seen that he has lost a lot and sacrificed a lot to reach this stage of trading in life and also accepted many challenges. There are many differences between a trader and a professional trader.  A professional trader, however, does not trade easily just by looking at the temporary volatility in the market, but after they have done sufficient scrutiny of the market, they trade when they feel they should trade at that moment. But an amateur trader doesn't think that much while trading, an amateur trader buys coins when they see a temporary dumping of the market and they think that since the market is dumping they must pump.However, trading in this way carries more risk.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on April 04, 2024, 09:02:57 AM
It would really be just that hard when you do start but on the time that you are already that gaining up such experience then you would really be finding yourself to be that gradually be able to handle the situation specially on dealing up with this unpredictable space. you arent really just that making yourself that able to familiarize things but also you would really be able to make yourself that be having that kind of emotion control on which this is something that you would really be needing up to develope specially when you are just that starting
but overtime then you would really be able to get a good hold off into this thing.

As a child is facing difficulties during the time when starts walking, fall and rise but he try again and again and at last he stand up on his feet so this can also be an example of newbies who are new to the environment of crypto at start but when they learn something better then they will also do better in coming months.

In every field there is a difficulties at start but talented people will minimize the risk by creating different strategies and ideas for it and those who don't have active and talented mind will stop to move towards success due to fear in their hearts.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on April 04, 2024, 09:14:36 AM
Now on the question about losing up money then of course this isnt something that you could avoid or simply being inevitable because market is random
and there's no one on this world would be able to know on whats ahead.

Some people, especially newbies, think that those who are professionals or experts in the market would never fail trades because they know how to do research and both fundamental and technical analysis and if someone has that much knowledge, they can't face failure, however, that's not true.

No one becomes an expert just like that, everyone has to go through hardships and hurdles that are available everyone going in that specific path, and those who become pros or experts of a certain thing are the ones who never give up no matter how much hardships and difficulties they face along the way. That's the difference between a novice and an expert, a novice would give up very easily but a pro would stay, learn and grow, and never repeat the same mistakes again.
Those are really those first impressions on which this is something which is really that very common that do happen until those noobs would really be able to gain up some experience then this is where they would really be able to experience that everyone do loses up money. The moment when you are just that still starting up then you would really be having those kind of insights that these fellas are the ones who do make money constantly and not even thinking that they do lose but its wrong, professionals do still lose money and this is something inevitable.
The thing on here is that these pros do really knows on what they do gonna do on which it is really that something totally different into those noobs who doesnt know on what they should gonna do.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bayu7adi on April 04, 2024, 04:49:14 PM
The thing on here is that these pros do really knows on what they do gonna do on which it is really that something totally different into those noobs who doesnt know on what they should gonna do.
It was true, that what he did might be a little better than beginners, but they also made mistakes that cost them money. We still cannot distance ourselves from luck and trading, because these two elements are still interconnected. I think everyone has experienced falling and failing maybe once or twice, but what differentiates professionals from persisting is that they remain disciplined and have a better mathematical brain.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bitbit97 on April 04, 2024, 05:00:40 PM
Why do people rely so much on professionals, think that they always are right, successful, always win, earn and never fail. They are people also. They also can have a bad day, get distracted, make a mistake after all. The fact that they are professional traders means they only trade more frequent than most of others, or only trade and skip other financial activities. Any trader can lose money anytime, because they dont control the market.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 05, 2024, 11:34:31 AM
There are still professionals who sell the results of their thoughts in the form of trading signals, not the trading strategy used. This is a good way to increase the value of assets owned by a professional, because I am sure they trade with big money. There are lots of sellers of this kind of trading signals circulating on Telegram, and they look trustworthy.

I wouldn't call them professional traders because a professional trader would focus on their trading and earn money from it and wouldn't need to create and manage groups on platforms such as Telegram to charge newbies a few bucks every month and provide them with signals, they simply don't need to do that because they earn enough money from trading alone.

Besides, a professional trader wouldn't have enough time to do all that because they spend most of their time researching and analyzing the market, reading charts and patterns to prepare their next trades. Those who run such signal groups are desperate people who earn money from people and not from the market.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: pacar_tiri on April 07, 2024, 04:11:46 AM
It was true, that what he did might be a little better than beginners, but they also made mistakes that cost them money. We still cannot distance ourselves from luck and trading, because these two elements are still interconnected. I think everyone has experienced falling and failing maybe once or twice, but what differentiates professionals from persisting is that they remain disciplined and have a better mathematical brain.
Exactly, someone will become active and very diligent in working hard when their life has experienced a downturn so that they have difficulty finding food. Therefore, when we are trading, we must remain careful and let experience be the best teacher so that we don't make the same mistakes.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on April 07, 2024, 09:27:41 AM
The thing on here is that these pros do really knows on what they do gonna do on which it is really that something totally different into those noobs who doesnt know on what they should gonna do.
It was true, that what he did might be a little better than beginners, but they also made mistakes that cost them money. We still cannot distance ourselves from luck and trading, because these two elements are still interconnected. I think everyone has experienced falling and failing maybe once or twice, but what differentiates professionals from persisting is that they remain disciplined and have a better mathematical brain.

     -     Fail in trading as a trader is part of the trading business industry; that's where we learn, and that's where we are shaped as traders. With every mistake we make,
these mistakes help us become more curious about the thing we did wrong.

So, it means that we will be more careful not to repeat the mistakes we have already made that did not benefit us. And I think that's what professional
traders do even today.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Rubel007 on April 07, 2024, 09:35:50 AM
There are still professionals who sell the results of their thoughts in the form of trading signals, not the trading strategy used. This is a good way to increase the value of assets owned by a professional, because I am sure they trade with big money. There are lots of sellers of this kind of trading signals circulating on Telegram, and they look trustworthy.

I wouldn't call them professional traders because a professional trader would focus on their trading and earn money from it and wouldn't need to create and manage groups on platforms such as Telegram to charge newbies a few bucks every month and provide them with signals, they simply don't need to do that because they earn enough money from trading alone.

Besides, a professional trader wouldn't have enough time to do all that because they spend most of their time researching and analyzing the market, reading charts and patterns to prepare their next trades. Those who run such signal groups are desperate people who earn money from people and not from the market.
There is enough logic in your words. If a trader claims to be a professional trader then he must be very busy with his trading activities. He cannot spend much time on anything else. However, there may be differences in some cases. Because I have seen some people who trade professionally but they have some other social media platforms where they spend little time and can be profitable. Many people upload their trading related topics on YouTube. Whereas if they have good subscribers and regular viewers then they can earn a decent amount of money from that plaform and for this it has no effect on the professional career.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on April 07, 2024, 02:24:56 PM
There are still professionals who sell the results of their thoughts in the form of trading signals, not the trading strategy used. This is a good way to increase the value of assets owned by a professional, because I am sure they trade with big money. There are lots of sellers of this kind of trading signals circulating on Telegram, and they look trustworthy.

I wouldn't call them professional traders because a professional trader would focus on their trading and earn money from it and wouldn't need to create and manage groups on platforms such as Telegram to charge newbies a few bucks every month and provide them with signals, they simply don't need to do that because they earn enough money from trading alone.

Besides, a professional trader wouldn't have enough time to do all that because they spend most of their time researching and analyzing the market, reading charts and patterns to prepare their next trades. Those who run such signal groups are desperate people who earn money from people and not from the market.
There is enough logic in your words. If a trader claims to be a professional trader then he must be very busy with his trading activities. He cannot spend much time on anything else. However, there may be differences in some cases. Because I have seen some people who trade professionally but they have some other social media platforms where they spend little time and can be profitable. Many people upload their trading related topics on YouTube. Whereas if they have good subscribers and regular viewers then they can earn a decent amount of money from that plaform and for this it has no effect on the professional career.
If they explain how to trade on YouTube, I think it's just a general overview. The core strategies of professional traders will never be shared, because that is their source of income. It takes money and sacrifice to become a professional trader, so I only follow the news and their predictions, but I do my own research and analysis
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: TopT3ns on April 09, 2024, 04:16:44 PM
If they explain how to trade on YouTube, I think it's just a general overview. The core strategies of professional traders will never be shared, because that is their source of income. It takes money and sacrifice to become a professional trader, so I only follow the news and their predictions, but I do my own research and analysis
That's right, the strategy for becoming a professional trader will clearly never be shared for free, even if it is paid, the strategy obtained will definitely not be completely accurate because those who have this skill prefer to keep it a secret so that many people don't know about it. The capital they have used is proportional to the knowledge or experience they have gained.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: bayu7adi on April 09, 2024, 08:18:33 PM
I think everyone has experienced defeat in something, including even professional traders. Maybe in certain strategies this professional person failed, but his other strategies were able to cover the losses caused by his own failure. So in my personal opinion, a professional may experience several losses and lose money, but they can manage these losses by improvising trading until finally the losses are covered again.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Google+ on April 12, 2024, 12:23:07 PM
I think everyone has experienced defeat in something, including even professional traders. Maybe in certain strategies this professional person failed, but his other strategies were able to cover the losses caused by his own failure. So in my personal opinion, a professional may experience several losses and lose money, but they can manage these losses by improvising trading until finally the losses are covered again.
That's right, professional traders certainly won't get a title like that easily. They have many experiences of failure which ultimately serve as important lessons so that the same mistakes don't happen again. Of course, the capital they used was used up in a very large amount until finally they found a technique that could always provide profits for them and finally they were called professional traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on April 12, 2024, 12:53:52 PM
I think everyone has experienced defeat in something, including even professional traders. Maybe in certain strategies this professional person failed, but his other strategies were able to cover the losses caused by his own failure. So in my personal opinion, a professional may experience several losses and lose money, but they can manage these losses by improvising trading until finally the losses are covered again.
Well, professional traders have good risk management. And they also make good plans in their trading. So that when they experience a loss, they will stop it at the loss limit they can afford. This is different from beginners who sometimes experience losses that exceed what they can afford. All traders definitely cannot remain profitable. And occasionally getting losses is normal. Likewise for professional traders.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 12, 2024, 03:18:01 PM
I think everyone has experienced defeat in something, including even professional traders. Maybe in certain strategies this professional person failed, but his other strategies were able to cover the losses caused by his own failure. So in my personal opinion, a professional may experience several losses and lose money, but they can manage these losses by improvising trading until finally the losses are covered again.

Professional and expert traders face defeat as well, no doubt, but there is a difference between the reactions of a professional or experienced trader and a newbie or inexperienced trader. When an experienced trader faces a loss, they don't start mourning over it but they see what mistake they made while making that trade and make sure they don't repeat the same mistake in their future trades.

However, an inexperienced and newbie trader wouldn't be able to digest the loss, they rage, and might even quit trading for a while because they feel they can't do it anymore which is not the right way to react because losses are inevitable when you are in a financial market.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: kulkhan on April 13, 2024, 01:33:57 AM
Trading is always unpredictable and risky i think. Pfofit and loss both could be happen in this trading.
But it also true that professional traders are more experts in trading and their losss possibility is low then general trader's. End of the day it is proven that professional traders also loss money in trading, but It's quantity is small then Newbie and general trader's. That's means profit and loss both will be happen in trading for everyone there has no doubt.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on April 13, 2024, 05:27:25 PM
I think everyone has experienced defeat in something, including even professional traders. Maybe in certain strategies this professional person failed, but his other strategies were able to cover the losses caused by his own failure. So in my personal opinion, a professional may experience several losses and lose money, but they can manage these losses by improvising trading until finally the losses are covered again.
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Google+ on April 21, 2024, 08:07:49 PM
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
That's right, that's why nowadays many professional traders prefer to save the way they managed to master the exchange, because they have spent a lot of money researching market conditions and finding loopholes to make a lot of profit.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on April 21, 2024, 09:10:06 PM
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
That's right, that's why nowadays many professional traders prefer to save the way they managed to master the exchange, because they have spent a lot of money researching market conditions and finding loopholes to make a lot of profit.
You wont be called professional not until on the time that you do make yourself profitable. Trading is a skill on which its really that too damn hard for you to get or gain but doesnt mean that you wont really be pursuing on becoming one. There are really jut those people who are really that having that kind of dedication on learning up everything on which there are who do succeed and there are ones who do really fail. Losing money? Its part of the proceess and as a pro then you would really be able to handle up such situation despite of those loses
you do still end up on becoming that profitable.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: emmybd on April 22, 2024, 11:51:29 AM
Professional crypto traders can and do lose money. Trading in cryptocurrencies, like any form of trading, involves risk, and even the most experienced traders can face losses. However, professional traders typically have strategies in place to manage risk and are often able to offset losses with gains over the long term1. It’s important to note that a significant number of traders, not just in crypto but in all financial markets, end up losing money. This can be due to a variety of reasons, such as lack of experience, poor risk management, emotional decision-making, and not maintaining a balanced portfolio.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on April 23, 2024, 06:18:56 PM
Professional crypto traders can and do lose money. Trading in cryptocurrencies, like any form of trading, involves risk, and even the most experienced traders can face losses. However, professional traders typically have strategies in place to manage risk and are often able to offset losses with gains over the long term1. It’s important to note that a significant number of traders, not just in crypto but in all financial markets, end up losing money. This can be due to a variety of reasons, such as lack of experience, poor risk management, emotional decision-making, and not maintaining a balanced portfolio.
You're right, trading in crypto requires risk management, because even professional traders have experienced losses but they are smart in managing the risk of the coins they own, by diversifying and being able to generate profits greater than their losses, that is the advantage of a professional trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: pacar_tiri on April 24, 2024, 08:20:22 PM
You're right, trading in crypto requires risk management, because even professional traders have experienced losses but they are smart in managing the risk of the coins they own, by diversifying and being able to generate profits greater than their losses, that is the advantage of a professional trader.
That's true, but we have to remember that to get the title of professional trader, we have to have a lot of experience and of course need a lot of money to research several trading methods that can be used with proper accuracy.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on April 24, 2024, 08:41:05 PM
You're right, trading in crypto requires risk management, because even professional traders have experienced losses but they are smart in managing the risk of the coins they own, by diversifying and being able to generate profits greater than their losses, that is the advantage of a professional trader.
That's true, but we have to remember that to get the title of professional trader, we have to have a lot of experience and of course need a lot of money to research several trading methods that can be used with proper accuracy.
We wont really be able to get that kind of title or something that kind of condition if we are a trader isnt really that profitable on which you would really be that needing to pass up tons of
situations and conditions on which you would really be able to sustain. Being profitable in trading might sounds easy but its not because once you would really be on such condition then it would really be that so hard for you to acquire out such condition because you would really be passing all the challenges in trading but once you do have a good graps of if then its something a skill
that could make out money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: JISAN on April 25, 2024, 09:53:35 AM
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
That's right, that's why nowadays many professional traders prefer to save the way they managed to master the exchange, because they have spent a lot of money researching market conditions and finding loopholes to make a lot of profit.
No trader can avoid loss even professional traders also loss on trading but They invest in multiple potential coins and have enough budget to trade so that if they lose in one coin, they recover that loss by profiting from other coins. For this they can make average profit almost every time. No matter how big a professional trader is, they cannot guarantee that they will not lose.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: rizqillah on April 25, 2024, 11:19:06 AM
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
That's right, that's why nowadays many professional traders prefer to save the way they managed to master the exchange, because they have spent a lot of money researching market conditions and finding loopholes to make a lot of profit.
No trader can avoid loss even professional traders also loss on trading but They invest in multiple potential coins and have enough budget to trade so that if they lose in one coin, they recover that loss by profiting from other coins. For this they can make average profit almost every time. No matter how big a professional trader is, they cannot guarantee that they will not lose.
They share the opportunity to make a profit in several coins, and they also try to minimize losses by investing in several coins that they think can make a profit. A professional trader will be smart in managing his crypto assets.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on April 25, 2024, 08:12:39 PM
They share the opportunity to make a profit in several coins, and they also try to minimize losses by investing in several coins that they think can make a profit. A professional trader will be smart in managing his crypto assets.

One can get a huge return by investing in numerous coins but it is not as easy as we think because only potential coins possess the power to give you profit if you buy and sell it according to your targeted value.

One can reduce his losses if he keeps holding top coins and his decisions are unaffected by the market fluctuations. Investing in several coins does not mean that you will hold any type of coins and you will become millionaires but diversification also needs knowledge and only true coins are profitable to hold so newbies must learn this thing while experts will do better according to their knowledge.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Uruhara on April 25, 2024, 09:45:26 PM
They share the opportunity to make a profit in several coins, and they also try to minimize losses by investing in several coins that they think can make a profit. A professional trader will be smart in managing his crypto assets.
It's true that they are very smart in managing their finances. They are also smart in managing risks in their trading activities. So they won't lose an amount they can't afford. And they sometimes experience losses, but usually it doesn't exceed the profits they get. And they do diversification to keep the risk from being too big when one of the trading pairs experiences a price drop.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on April 25, 2024, 10:55:37 PM
They share the opportunity to make a profit in several coins, and they also try to minimize losses by investing in several coins that they think can make a profit. A professional trader will be smart in managing his crypto assets.
It's true that they are very smart in managing their finances. They are also smart in managing risks in their trading activities. So they won't lose an amount they can't afford. And they sometimes experience losses, but usually it doesn't exceed the profits they get. And they do diversification to keep the risk from being too big when one of the trading pairs experiences a price drop.
Veterans and newbies would really be have that different approach when it comes to things.Whereas professionals do really knows on what they would gonna do on a particular situation
on which those noobs wont really be able to do something. Experience is the primary difference among the two on which we know that in trading world on where if things turns out that
prices are really that moving in random then it would really be needing up that kind of approach on which you would really be needing up to make out some adjustments.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on April 26, 2024, 09:55:59 AM
They share the opportunity to make a profit in several coins, and they also try to minimize losses by investing in several coins that they think can make a profit. A professional trader will be smart in managing his crypto assets.
It's true that they are very smart in managing their finances. They are also smart in managing risks in their trading activities. So they won't lose an amount they can't afford. And they sometimes experience losses, but usually it doesn't exceed the profits they get. And they do diversification to keep the risk from being too big when one of the trading pairs experiences a price drop.
Yes, they do as you mentioned, diversify investing in several potential coins to increase the chance of profit and minimize the chance of loss. a professional trader is clever at managing assets by always focusing on greater profits than losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 26, 2024, 03:29:43 PM
A professional trader is able to manage his money well, and he will learn from the defeats and losses he experiences. They have also lost and lost, but have made more profits. And we have to learn from them how to become a professional trader
That's right, that's why nowadays many professional traders prefer to save the way they managed to master the exchange, because they have spent a lot of money researching market conditions and finding loopholes to make a lot of profit.
When we can say something with certainty about something, that is a guarantee for us, but an experienced and a professional trader cannot give any information for sure about the movement of the market or whether he can make a profit or a loss when he trades. Trading with probability. Since trading with such odds, a Tedders can definitely lose money no matter how professional he is. Although every trader has the potential to lose money, there are many differences between the trading skills of a professional trader and an ordinary trader. An ordinary trader has a high chance of losing money, but a professional trader has a very low chance of losing money because he takes a lot of thought and analysis into trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 26, 2024, 03:44:04 PM
All traders have hot streaks and cold streaks.

Bernie Madoff had 7 or 8 winning years in a row until it all fell aprt and he rolled it into a ponzi scheme.

Good traders minimize their losses well bad traders get crushed by downturns.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Vx1 on April 26, 2024, 07:44:58 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Before becoming professional traders, they were also amateur traders too. And in cryptocurrency trading, even if they are professional traders, they will definitely experience losing money here. 
Predicting coin prices is not easy, even if it is done by professional traders. 
it could be that they are more expert than us, but it is impossible for their predictions to always be correct.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 26, 2024, 08:29:45 PM
Before becoming professional traders, they were also amateur traders too. And in cryptocurrency trading, even if they are professional traders, they will definitely experience losing money here. 
Predicting coin prices is not easy, even if it is done by professional traders. 
it could be that they are more expert than us, but it is impossible for their predictions to always be correct.

That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: armanda90 on April 26, 2024, 10:40:47 PM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: BitMaxz on April 27, 2024, 12:14:01 AM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.

Everything in crypto is unpredictable also most of the gurus out there are frauds they will teach you to trade but the fact is they don't have any proof of profitability even if you ask them for overall performance but they can't provide any. If you want to become a trader you need to be consistent and start learning by yourself the basic trading that you learn from research should be enough to start observing and trying yourself to trade you are the only one will discover what behind on the chart.
I learn something from gurus from youtube but all guides and trading strategies do not work in crypto market its too volatile but find the support and resistance work that's the only guide that works but the 1 to 3 percent rule in trading plus the wrong position will always hit by overextended spikes because crypto market is manipulated only for little spikes but if you are advance to think that there is someone who does hunting stop-loss be advance and put the position under over extended spike.

Its just only my experience but I still keep learning from my own gurus outside and on YouTube not all are working you need to backtest and test yourself if you can be profitable tradingview should be the best friend tool you can use with free papermoney that you can trade inside their tool.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Rubel007 on April 27, 2024, 05:46:22 PM
Before becoming professional traders, they were also amateur traders too. And in cryptocurrency trading, even if they are professional traders, they will definitely experience losing money here. 
Predicting coin prices is not easy, even if it is done by professional traders. 
it could be that they are more expert than us, but it is impossible for their predictions to always be correct.

That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Trading platform is a speculative platform where everything is considered speculative. In the cryptocurrency space bitcoin is one of the currencies where one can buy or sell it only depending on assumption. But an experienced person's estimate and a novice's estimate will not be the same. Even if an experienced trader does not give assurance, he can certainly make reliable guesses in the light of his experience, which is difficult for new trader. But being an experienced trader does not mean that he will make certain profit from the trading platform. Many experienced traders also lose their assets.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on April 27, 2024, 07:40:28 PM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
To those people or traders who do really offer out that kind of premium signal and really that asking for some sub fees on which they arent that professionals at all.
If they were really that profitable then they wont really be making themselves that having kind of act since they could really be able to still make money on their own without
trying to handle up a community on which we know that it would really be having no sense i should say on having that kind of approach.  As a pro
then you could make easy money with trading but of course losing is something inevitable, the real deal on here is that you could really be able to make yourself that profitable in the end of the day.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 28, 2024, 02:18:56 PM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 28, 2024, 04:43:31 PM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.

Everything in crypto is unpredictable also most of the gurus out there are frauds they will teach you to trade but the fact is they don't have any proof of profitability even if you ask them for overall performance but they can't provide any. If you want to become a trader you need to be consistent and start learning by yourself the basic trading that you learn from research should be enough to start observing and trying yourself to trade you are the only one will discover what behind on the chart.
I learn something from gurus from youtube but all guides and trading strategies do not work in crypto market its too volatile but find the support and resistance work that's the only guide that works but the 1 to 3 percent rule in trading plus the wrong position will always hit by overextended spikes because crypto market is manipulated only for little spikes but if you are advance to think that there is someone who does hunting stop-loss be advance and put the position under over extended spike.

Its just only my experience but I still keep learning from my own gurus outside and on YouTube not all are working you need to backtest and test yourself if you can be profitable tradingview should be the best friend tool you can use with free papermoney that you can trade inside their tool.

Trading costs a fee everytime you do a trade you pay a fee to do the trade.

Planning when to release a coin or a stock is important. Waiting to buy a coin or stock is important.

takes lots of discipline to not chase a losing position. takes a lot of discipline to not press a winning position.

takes a lot of discipline to say oh well and move on if you bombed.

the best traders are not the ones that whale like mofos in a bull.

the best traders are the ones that do not get crushed on down turns.

So yeah pro traders have very long losing spells maybe two years in a row or more. but they are pros and can handle it.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Primo1760 on April 28, 2024, 05:46:18 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: BitMaxz on April 28, 2024, 06:24:56 PM
Trading costs a fee everytime you do a trade you pay a fee to do the trade.

Planning when to release a coin or a stock is important. Waiting to buy a coin or stock is important.

takes lots of discipline to not chase a losing position. takes a lot of discipline to not press a winning position.

takes a lot of discipline to say oh well and move on if you bombed.

the best traders are not the ones that whale like mofos in a bull.

the best traders are the ones that do not get crushed on down turns.

So yeah pro traders have very long losing spells maybe two years in a row or more. but they are pros and can handle it.

Honestly, at first, I can't move on losing much on a single trade it's very frustrating it is likely the same in gambling casinos if you are expecting to win the game but in the end, you lose everything that makes you feel angry, regret,ful and depressed.

That is why we should be ready for all possible outcomes and must endure the losses and always be calm and learn from mistakes and I learned to stop trade when the market is against my strategy and always limit my losses to 5% of total capital once I reach this limit I stop and trade on another day that's the rules on the day trading discipline is a must because sometimes without analysis when you put a position without validating it its totally gamble that the thing that newbie should focus on asking their self first "why would I put position here, there anywhere on this chart?" before making a decision to place a position.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: JISAN on April 28, 2024, 08:10:32 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on May 01, 2024, 02:50:06 PM
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Vx1 on May 01, 2024, 04:29:24 PM
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
This is absolutely true, because in crypto trading it is sometimes difficult to predict and analyze.  So even though they are professionals, they will definitely experience losses and this can never be avoided.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: akeemqaz on May 01, 2024, 06:42:09 PM
Both professionals and non-professionals can experience losses in trading. However, professionals typically exhibit better risk management and discipline, resulting in smaller losses compared to inexperienced traders. That's why I started my trading journey with a demo account, allowing me to practice without risking real capital. Later, I utilized Bitget's copy trading feature to follow and learn from experienced traders before trading on my own. Even now, I occasionally leverage copy trading to complement my own trading strategies
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: de_prof on May 02, 2024, 10:18:40 AM
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
This is absolutely true, because in crypto trading it is sometimes difficult to predict and analyze.  So even though they are professionals, they will definitely experience losses and this can never be avoided.
A professional trader is good at managing their money, if they lose they will chase profits that are bigger than their losses. So the advantage of a professional trader is his ability to analyze, predict, manage funds and also his emotions. This is very difficult and takes a long time.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 02, 2024, 05:33:45 PM
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.
No matter how professional a trader is in trading, he can definitely lose money. When I am sure of something I can guarantee that I will achieve 100% success in it but no matter how experienced a trader is in trading he can never be certain or sure. An experienced trader has no way of saying with certainty that the market will move forward in the way he predicts. Since experienced traders cannot say anything for sure, we have to believe that experienced traders can lose money by trading. But I agree with your point that their money risk is much less because they do enough research on the market and their research is likely to be very accurate. That is why there is a lot of difference between a new trader and an experienced trader and experienced traders can always achieve success in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on May 03, 2024, 02:10:55 PM
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.
No matter how professional a trader is in trading, he can definitely lose money. When I am sure of something I can guarantee that I will achieve 100% success in it but no matter how experienced a trader is in trading he can never be certain or sure. An experienced trader has no way of saying with certainty that the market will move forward in the way he predicts. Since experienced traders cannot say anything for sure, we have to believe that experienced traders can lose money by trading. But I agree with your point that their money risk is much less because they do enough research on the market and their research is likely to be very accurate. That is why there is a lot of difference between a new trader and an experienced trader and experienced traders can always achieve success in trading.
Their experience and knowledge is the only difference and not whether they will experience losses or not, because as I said, losses cannot be avoided by any trader, they can only be minimized.

What is quite noticeable is the difference in mentality. New traders who are new to trading are still haunted by fear and panic, while professional traders will be able to control that, because their experience will speak volumes when making a trade.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on May 03, 2024, 05:32:54 PM
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.
No matter how professional a trader is in trading, he can definitely lose money. When I am sure of something I can guarantee that I will achieve 100% success in it but no matter how experienced a trader is in trading he can never be certain or sure. An experienced trader has no way of saying with certainty that the market will move forward in the way he predicts. Since experienced traders cannot say anything for sure, we have to believe that experienced traders can lose money by trading. But I agree with your point that their money risk is much less because they do enough research on the market and their research is likely to be very accurate. That is why there is a lot of difference between a new trader and an experienced trader and experienced traders can always achieve success in trading.
Their experience and knowledge is the only difference and not whether they will experience losses or not, because as I said, losses cannot be avoided by any trader, they can only be minimized.

What is quite noticeable is the difference in mentality. New traders who are new to trading are still haunted by fear and panic, while professional traders will be able to control that, because their experience will speak volumes when making a trade.
I agree with you, a professional trader can control his emotions. That takes experience. because not all traders have that ability, when they experience a loss or lose some new traders will panic, while professional traders will remain calm, because they get profits in other coins
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 03, 2024, 07:43:44 PM
Everyone is prone to loose trade be it professionals or not, we all have the level of risk we are prone to see happen to us each time we are trading, we should also know that there are things we could have put in place if we have the required knowledge and such would have reduced the degree to how we could have lose in trades, this means everyone is not beyond the capacity of loosing while trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on May 03, 2024, 08:04:08 PM
Everyone is prone to loose trade be it professionals or not, we all have the level of risk we are prone to see happen to us each time we are trading, we should also know that there are things we could have put in place if we have the required knowledge and such would have reduced the degree to how we could have lose in trades, this means everyone is not beyond the capacity of loosing while trading.
Knowledge and experience will make us become professional traders who can minimize losses by increasing the chances of making a profit, by trading on several potential coins. This is what makes professional traders always make a profit, but they will definitely experience losses. because no one can carry out 100% accurate analysis, sometimes they are also wrong
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on May 04, 2024, 01:50:32 PM
Their experience and knowledge is the only difference and not whether they will experience losses or not, because as I said, losses cannot be avoided by any trader, they can only be minimized.

What is quite noticeable is the difference in mentality. New traders who are new to trading are still haunted by fear and panic, while professional traders will be able to control that, because their experience will speak volumes when making a trade.
I agree with you, a professional trader can control his emotions. That takes experience. because not all traders have that ability, when they experience a loss or lose some new traders will panic, while professional traders will remain calm, because they get profits in other coins
In any case, self-control or self-management is something we need to have, whether in trading or in our daily lives. Because if we can control ourselves well then it will enable us to think clearly and that will influence the decisions we will take.

For example, if we cannot control ourselves and we become emotional, at the same time we have to make a decision, the decision we will take will be based on emotion, not based on common sense, because at that time our emotions have already controlled us.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on May 04, 2024, 05:01:40 PM
Their experience and knowledge is the only difference and not whether they will experience losses or not, because as I said, losses cannot be avoided by any trader, they can only be minimized.

What is quite noticeable is the difference in mentality. New traders who are new to trading are still haunted by fear and panic, while professional traders will be able to control that, because their experience will speak volumes when making a trade.
I agree with you, a professional trader can control his emotions. That takes experience. because not all traders have that ability, when they experience a loss or lose some new traders will panic, while professional traders will remain calm, because they get profits in other coins
In any case, self-control or self-management is something we need to have, whether in trading or in our daily lives. Because if we can control ourselves well then it will enable us to think clearly and that will influence the decisions we will take.

For example, if we cannot control ourselves and we become emotional, at the same time we have to make a decision, the decision we will take will be based on emotion, not based on common sense, because at that time our emotions have already controlled us.
Emotion management requires experience, because it is not easy to control emotions when trading or investing. Sometimes we panic when we see the market drop, but because of experience, we try to calm down and find out why? and make an analysis of this condition
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: taufik123 on May 04, 2024, 11:19:05 PM
Emotion management requires experience, because it is not easy to control emotions when trading or investing. Sometimes we panic when we see the market drop, but because of experience, we try to calm down and find out why? and make an analysis of this condition
It is indeed not easy to control trading emotions, for those who do not have experience, panic will always occur.
But it also depends on how the trading strategy and also the management of funds for trading.

If it is done correctly and the management of funds is in accordance with the strategy that has been made, then there will be no panic that makes trading emotions more volatile.

But it's not easy, it takes quite a lot of practice and sparring experience.
But over time if you get used to it then everything can be handled properly without panic or excessive trading emotions.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Primo1760 on May 04, 2024, 11:28:34 PM
Everyone is prone to loose trade be it professionals or not, we all have the level of risk we are prone to see happen to us each time we are trading, we should also know that there are things we could have put in place if we have the required knowledge and such would have reduced the degree to how we could have lose in trades, this means everyone is not beyond the capacity of loosing while trading.
Yes I believe professional traders and amateur traders have definitely lost money on trading platforms. Always think from your own side like if I think from my side then I can see that I have lost a lot of money trading now if I keep trading like this and become a professional trader at some point then I will surely lose a professional trader have been. So I believe every trader has lost some money in his life to become a professional trader. One can never become a professional trader without losing money. It is also seen that most of the time professional traders lose a lot of money during major market volatility. So I believe that almost everyone loses in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: milewilda on May 04, 2024, 11:52:43 PM
Everyone is prone to loose trade be it professionals or not, we all have the level of risk we are prone to see happen to us each time we are trading, we should also know that there are things we could have put in place if we have the required knowledge and such would have reduced the degree to how we could have lose in trades, this means everyone is not beyond the capacity of loosing while trading.
Yes I believe professional traders and amateur traders have definitely lost money on trading platforms. Always think from your own side like if I think from my side then I can see that I have lost a lot of money trading now if I keep trading like this and become a professional trader at some point then I will surely lose a professional trader have been. So I believe every trader has lost some money in his life to become a professional trader. One can never become a professional trader without losing money. It is also seen that most of the time professional traders lose a lot of money during major market volatility. So I believe that almost everyone loses in trading.
There would really be no exemptions if we do speak about losing money whether you are pro or not, you would definitely be losing money considering that this market is really that truly unpredictable and there's no way that you would really be able to have that kind of perfect trading all the time. There's no such thing on this world would be able to do that.
The difference here in both things is that one could be able to handle up himself on doing trades and the other one doesnt even know on what he would really be doing
on which this risk factor or level would really be that entirely be different.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on May 05, 2024, 11:29:37 AM
Everyone is prone to loose trade be it professionals or not, we all have the level of risk we are prone to see happen to us each time we are trading, we should also know that there are things we could have put in place if we have the required knowledge and such would have reduced the degree to how we could have lose in trades, this means everyone is not beyond the capacity of loosing while trading.

       -     I can only add, mate, that there are no perfect traders in any field of the trading business. That's why if the ultimate seasoned traders or experts in trading are still losing, how much more are the newbies who don't know anything yet?

and I also know that every loss in trading that is the result of a mistake or wrong strategy is where we often learn.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on May 05, 2024, 01:03:30 PM
In any case, self-control or self-management is something we need to have, whether in trading or in our daily lives. Because if we can control ourselves well then it will enable us to think clearly and that will influence the decisions we will take.

For example, if we cannot control ourselves and we become emotional, at the same time we have to make a decision, the decision we will take will be based on emotion, not based on common sense, because at that time our emotions have already controlled us.
Emotion management requires experience, because it is not easy to control emotions when trading or investing. Sometimes we panic when we see the market drop, but because of experience, we try to calm down and find out why? and make an analysis of this condition
Yes, of course experience will speak volumes so that we can manage ourselves well, the lessons we can take from what we experience become capital for us so that we can know what we should and what we should not do.

But this also depends on how we can learn from what we experience, because I have seen several people make the same mistakes. When that happens, it can be said that they don't learn from their mistakes.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on May 05, 2024, 02:46:59 PM
In any case, self-control or self-management is something we need to have, whether in trading or in our daily lives. Because if we can control ourselves well then it will enable us to think clearly and that will influence the decisions we will take.

For example, if we cannot control ourselves and we become emotional, at the same time we have to make a decision, the decision we will take will be based on emotion, not based on common sense, because at that time our emotions have already controlled us.
Emotion management requires experience, because it is not easy to control emotions when trading or investing. Sometimes we panic when we see the market drop, but because of experience, we try to calm down and find out why? and make an analysis of this condition
Yes, of course experience will speak volumes so that we can manage ourselves well, the lessons we can take from what we experience become capital for us so that we can know what we should and what we should not do.

But this also depends on how we can learn from what we experience, because I have seen several people make the same mistakes. When that happens, it can be said that they don't learn from their mistakes.
you are right, I agree with your opinion, we have to learn from the mistakes we make, that is our life experience and in the crypto world, both as holders and investors, we have to have a lot of experience so that we can make an analysis before investing in a coin.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: $crypto$ on May 08, 2024, 01:30:59 PM
Yes, of course experience will speak volumes so that we can manage ourselves well, the lessons we can take from what we experience become capital for us so that we can know what we should and what we should not do.

But this also depends on how we can learn from what we experience, because I have seen several people make the same mistakes. When that happens, it can be said that they don't learn from their mistakes.
you are right, I agree with your opinion, we have to learn from the mistakes we make, that is our life experience and in the crypto world, both as holders and investors, we have to have a lot of experience so that we can make an analysis before investing in a coin.
If we look deeper, then actually every step we take can be a valuable lesson in life, but usually we take these things for granted. I'm not talking about other people, but this happened to me.

The point I want to convey here is that we must be able to make something a lesson, even if it is a small thing. Especially in the cryptocurrency space, because it is not impossible that the smallest thing will become something big in the future.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on May 09, 2024, 05:19:54 PM
In any case, self-control or self-management is something we need to have, whether in trading or in our daily lives. Because if we can control ourselves well then it will enable us to think clearly and that will influence the decisions we will take.

For example, if we cannot control ourselves and we become emotional, at the same time we have to make a decision, the decision we will take will be based on emotion, not based on common sense, because at that time our emotions have already controlled us.
Emotion management requires experience, because it is not easy to control emotions when trading or investing. Sometimes we panic when we see the market drop, but because of experience, we try to calm down and find out why? and make an analysis of this condition
Yes, of course experience will speak volumes so that we can manage ourselves well, the lessons we can take from what we experience become capital for us so that we can know what we should and what we should not do.

But this also depends on how we can learn from what we experience, because I have seen several people make the same mistakes. When that happens, it can be said that they don't learn from their mistakes.
you are right, I agree with your opinion, we have to learn from the mistakes we make, that is our life experience and in the crypto world, both as holders and investors, we have to have a lot of experience so that we can make an analysis before investing in a coin.
Exactly, experience in the world of trading will indeed be very expensive. With the experience we have, we can determine coin price movements that will occur in the next few minutes, hours or days. Investors sometimes always do a lot of research to find accurate analysis.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on May 09, 2024, 06:30:47 PM
you are right, I agree with your opinion, we have to learn from the mistakes we make, that is our life experience and in the crypto world, both as holders and investors, we have to have a lot of experience so that we can make an analysis before investing in a coin.

Experience makes a person successful and because of greater experience people are doing less or no mistakes and this experience is possible only when a person thinks his mistakes as a lesson not a loss.

An individual will understand to analyze the market only if he spends lots of years in the crypto market. The first step should be learning and the second step should be getting experience through the utilization of a small amount of money.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 09, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
An individual will understand to analyze the market only if he spends lots of years in the crypto market. The first step should be learning and the second step should be getting experience through the utilization of a small amount of money.
Honestly I still think professionals might not lose all of their funds, but yeah some funds are a natural thing. We can learn these things by reading stats. For example Attention Robinhood power users: Most day traders lose money (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/20/attention-robinhood-power-users-most-day-traders-lose-money.html) in this article we can see most of the professionals who are doing day trading lose money no matter how long they have spent there time in trading. The type of trading is the main thing that decides whether professionals make money or not.

For example, if we are doing long-term trading, then a newbie can make money, as it spot, if it's swing or day trading, then stats are in front of us saying, professionals can't make a profit consistently in day trading or in futures. I have seen many examples with my own eyes like I read on news. But as you said we learn from our mistakes and we should try to avoid them next time, but due to high volatility of the market sometimes it becomes hard for us.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: legend45 on May 09, 2024, 11:21:31 PM

Exactly, experience in the world of trading will indeed be very expensive. With the experience we have, we can determine coin price movements that will occur in the next few minutes, hours or days. Investors sometimes always do a lot of research to find accurate analysis.
You are right that experience and knowledge in trading are very expensive, because it takes a long time to get it all. including past defeats which make a professional trader more careful in trading.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: UNIVERSE on May 09, 2024, 11:34:29 PM
You are right that experience and knowledge in trading are very expensive, because it takes a long time to get it all. including past defeats which make a professional trader more careful in trading.
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.

Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 10, 2024, 09:03:31 AM
You are right that experience and knowledge in trading are very expensive, because it takes a long time to get it all. including past defeats which make a professional trader more careful in trading.
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.
The biggest problem for us is that we don't want to spend time on something but we expect maximum results from that work. One is working and I am not working but if I expect the result like that working person then it will be nothing but foolishness for me. First we need to learn about certain subject matter and then when we gain enough skill about that subject matter we need to apply it. Trading is a very important thing, here everything has to be taken very seriously. If we do not take this matter seriously, naturally, the result will not be in our favor, but against us.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: enwi on May 10, 2024, 12:32:29 PM
You are right that experience and knowledge in trading are very expensive, because it takes a long time to get it all. including past defeats which make a professional trader more careful in trading.
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.
Exactly, a lot has to be sacrificed to become a professional, the most sacrificed is the time and financial capital that we use to do research. We may still be able to find more money, but for victims of time we can't get much more time, time continues moving forward so that when we have sacrificed our time we must succeed in becoming professionals.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on May 10, 2024, 06:02:15 PM
You are right that experience and knowledge in trading are very expensive, because it takes a long time to get it all. including past defeats which make a professional trader more careful in trading.
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.
Exactly, a lot has to be sacrificed to become a professional, the most sacrificed is the time and financial capital that we use to do research. We may still be able to find more money, but for victims of time we can't get much more time, time continues moving forward so that when we have sacrificed our time we must succeed in becoming professionals.
Agree with you, becoming a professional requires sacrificing time and capital. because with that we will gain experience. It's not easy to become a professional, even those who have been in crypto for more than 8 years, many have not yet become a professional, including me.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on May 10, 2024, 06:35:26 PM
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.

It requires a lot of time and dedication, and despite all that, one doesn't stay safe from losses because professional traders lose money as well in trading sometimes, the only difference between them losing and a regular trader losing is that they take it gracefully, evaluate their mistakes, work on them, and don't repeat them in the future, whereas a regular or new trader wouldn't be able to do that, they will take it to the heart, and will most probably stop trading after that.

A lot of newbie traders think it is very easy to become a trader, and they believe it's all about having enough money which isn't true. Even if you have $1m as your starting capital, you won't be able to become a successful trader if you lack necessary knowledge.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: dekafee79 on May 11, 2024, 12:50:26 PM
To get good knowledge and experience must take a long time. Sure, it is not easy to get them, we must spend a lot of efforts. The professional traders must already do it, they have tried with their hard work. They won't be professional traders if they never did hard work, it is impossible. We must do the same if we want to be professional traders.

It requires a lot of time and dedication, and despite all that, one doesn't stay safe from losses because professional traders lose money as well in trading sometimes, the only difference between them losing and a regular trader losing is that they take it gracefully, evaluate their mistakes, work on them, and don't repeat them in the future, whereas a regular or new trader wouldn't be able to do that, they will take it to the heart, and will most probably stop trading after that.

A lot of newbie traders think it is very easy to become a trader, and they believe it's all about having enough money which isn't true. Even if you have $1m as your starting capital, you won't be able to become a successful trader if you lack necessary knowledge.
Professional traders will also experience defeat but continue trading because they learn from the experience and don't repeat it again. Meanwhile, for beginners, there will be a special trauma and they may not trade again. That's the difference I usually observe.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on May 11, 2024, 01:32:13 PM
Agree with you, becoming a professional requires sacrificing time and capital. because with that we will gain experience. It's not easy to become a professional, even those who have been in crypto for more than 8 years, many have not yet become a professional, including me.

Learning, knowledge, experience and sacrifices can make you professional traders but for becoming professional traders you must have enough time, money and knowledge and without any of these you will always remain as a newbie in trading.

Actually becoming an expert requires time because new things and new coins are arising and even experts don't know which coin will be suitable for trading so they sometimes lose their money.

 But the main difference between professional and newbies is that professional traders take their loss as a lesson while newbies try to recover the money without knowing the reason behind their loss and without decreasing his repeating mistakes.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: DAMKAR on May 11, 2024, 02:48:28 PM
Agree with you, becoming a professional requires sacrificing time and capital. because with that we will gain experience. It's not easy to become a professional, even those who have been in crypto for more than 8 years, many have not yet become a professional, including me.

Learning, knowledge, experience and sacrifices can make you professional traders but for becoming professional traders you must have enough time, money and knowledge and without any of these you will always remain as a newbie in trading.

Actually becoming an expert requires time because new things and new coins are arising and even experts don't know which coin will be suitable for trading so they sometimes lose their money.

 But the main difference between professional and newbies is that professional traders take their loss as a lesson while newbies try to recover the money without knowing the reason behind their loss and without decreasing his repeating mistakes.
Many people discuss the differences between professional traders and beginners, but I think this is only a matter of time. Even if a beginner is willing to learn from the experience he has gained, one day he will become a professional trader.
Title: Re: Do professional traders lose money?
Post by: SmartGold01 on May 11, 2024, 04:42:23 PM
Agree with you, becoming a professional requires sacrificing time and capital. because with that we will gain experience. It's not easy to become a professional, even those who have been in crypto for more than 8 years, many have not yet become a professional, including me.

Learning, knowledge, experience and sacrifices can make you professional traders but for becoming professional traders you must have enough time, money and knowledge and without any of these you will always remain as a newbie in trading.

Actually becoming an expert requires time because new things and new coins are arising and even experts don't know which coin will be suitable for trading so they sometimes lose their money.

 But the main difference between professional and newbies is that professional traders take their loss as a lesson while newbies try to recover the money without knowing the reason behind their loss and without decreasing his repeating mistakes.
For newbies I think is impatient for them to thoroughly understand the basis of trading before jumping into funding their account and just choose whatever coin they think could give them what they want without them making more adequate proper research. And of course professional always understood that their lost is a great lesson and would quickly adjust to finds out their mistakes and then correct it.