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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2024, 01:18:31 AM »
The key is in what @Jokers said, different forums, different rules.
That is the key because they teleported. If they teleport, like myself, then they are the same entity as the other place. Maybe teleportation should be on a case by case basis.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2024, 01:20:19 AM »
If a high ranked account that teleported here was reported in Bitcointalk to have been sold - then the admin (or perhaps the forum) should also be notified of such act here because there’s a high chance that the new operator of said account could have plans to do some unethical thing - warning the community ahead and tagging them could be said to be appropriate in this scenario.

It’s also for us to observe such things, when someone is red tagged for something new in BTT where he teleported his account recently with clean records, I believe that the wisest thing to do is tagging him here as well. However, it should be something worth it and a red trust must be based on proofs and clear evidence of scam or cheating case.

Moreover, a possibility of the opposite will happen, when someone teleport his account from BTT to this forum with a high ranked membership just to do something bad with it, scam someone here due his higher rank should be also counted in BTT and users report it there as well. I believe if someone has bad attention and got caught scamming his accounts should be tagged in both forums.

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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2024, 07:35:54 PM »
It’s also for us to observe such things, when someone is red tagged for something new in BTT where he teleported his account recently with clean records, I believe that the wisest thing to do is tagging him here as well. However, it should be something worth it and a red trust must be based on proofs and clear evidence of scam or cheating case.

Moreover, a possibility of the opposite will happen, when someone teleport his account from BTT to this forum with a high ranked membership just to do something bad with it, scam someone here due his higher rank should be also counted in BTT and users report it there as well. I believe if someone has bad attention and got caught scamming his accounts should be tagged in both forums.

As we have already said in other posts, if a BTT user has an account with scam labels comes here, that account would be blocked immediately. Spamming and using AI are different things, and the user could have the opportunity to change their behavior while maintaining their account rank. But if not, you will have the sanctions established by the forum rules. Neither the administrator nor the moderators will "wait" for a scammer to change their behavior, because that would never happen, and during that supposed time the scammer could scam some user of this forum.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2024, 09:51:39 PM »
It’s also for us to observe such things, when someone is red tagged for something new in BTT where he teleported his account recently with clean records, I believe that the wisest thing to do is tagging him here as well. However, it should be something worth it and a red trust must be based on proofs and clear evidence of scam or cheating case.

Moreover, a possibility of the opposite will happen, when someone teleport his account from BTT to this forum with a high ranked membership just to do something bad with it, scam someone here due his higher rank should be also counted in BTT and users report it there as well. I believe if someone has bad attention and got caught scamming his accounts should be tagged in both forums.

As we have already said in other posts, if a BTT user has an account with scam labels and comes here, that account would be blocked immediately. Spamming and using AI are different things, and the user could have the opportunity to change their behavior while maintaining their account rank. But if not, you will have the sanctions established by the forum rules. Neither the administrator nor the moderators will "wait" for a scammer to change their behavior, because that would never happen, and during that supposed time the scammer could scam some user of this forum.

i guess things are already dealt.

there are things to be considered and so regulating the forum too harshly is somewhat walking on a fine line. the forum needs to encourage everyone to come around, populate here at the same time because its better to have move users actively discussing stuff.

i think the minor violation could be ignored for the mean time and then the worse will be dealt differently. they may still teleport, but having a warning sign with them is necessary. maybe its best those who are tagged register and import rather than them using other names because they will be hard to spot under different name.

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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2024, 01:51:19 PM »
You are right and I agree with you on the subject. As you mentioned, there can be exceptions in this but if the reputation of a user is because they did something shady in the past or have been involved in a scam or something if they get teleported to this forum, their account should at least have some indication that the user has been teleported from Bitcointalk and has a red flag on his profile there so that people dealing with him should be cautious.

A scammer will always be a scammer, no matter where they go and who they meet, and a scammer is known to be a scammer then he shouldn't be able to hide that thing from the public and those who know about this fact should let others know to keep them safe.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2024, 02:45:17 PM »
It’s also for us to observe such things, when someone is red tagged for something new in BTT where he teleported his account recently with clean records, I believe that the wisest thing to do is tagging him here as well. However, it should be something worth it and a red trust must be based on proofs and clear evidence of scam or cheating case.

Moreover, a possibility of the opposite will happen, when someone teleport his account from BTT to this forum with a high ranked membership just to do something bad with it, scam someone here due his higher rank should be also counted in BTT and users report it there as well. I believe if someone has bad attention and got caught scamming his accounts should be tagged in both forums.

As we have already said in other posts, if a BTT user has an account with scam labels and comes here, that account would be blocked immediately. Spamming and using AI are different things, and the user could have the opportunity to change their behavior while maintaining their account rank. But if not, you will have the sanctions established by the forum rules. Neither the administrator nor the moderators will "wait" for a scammer to change their behavior, because that would never happen, and during that supposed time the scammer could scam some user of this forum.

That's the right approach scammers will find ways to scam people they have methods to do that and they only need platforms to make it materialize, scams cause us to lose our funds, it's different when it's spamming and the use of AI can try to improve and remove using AI's because he found out that he will get caught.
So far there are no known scammers from Bitcointalk that teleported here but we have one known alleged AI user, I hope he can improve himself here now that admin has given him a chance.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2024, 03:50:46 PM »
we have one known alleged AI user, I hope he can improve himself here now that admin has given him a chance.

We have much more than one and some of them already got registered warnings here also. If they will continue, they'll soon start getting plagiarism badges and other penalties. If they think that they are not watched if they don't have tags here yet, it is not so. But they can try to improve their behavior and avoid getting penalties even if they got tags on BTT. Some prefer to misbehave... it's a pity, but we've done for them what we could. ???
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2024, 03:50:46 PM »


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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2024, 07:57:48 PM »
That's the right approach scammers will find ways to scam people they have methods to do that and they only need platforms to make it materialize, scams cause us to lose our funds, it's different when it's spamming and the use of AI can try to improve and remove using AI's because he found out that he will get caught.
So far there are no known scammers from Bitcointalk that teleported here but we have one known alleged AI user, I hope he can improve himself here now that admin has given him a chance.

In BTT they have a way of doing things, here we have another. Here moderation is active every day, there are always moderators, monitoring new users, moving or deleting posts, sending warnings... I'm not saying that scammers won't try to come here to scam users, but I can say that they will have a much harder time doing so.

I still think we all deserve second chances, but the users of this forum deserve a safe and quiet place to talk about cryptocurrencies.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2024, 12:06:53 AM »
I still think we all deserve second chances, but the users of this forum deserve a safe and quiet place to talk about cryptocurrencies.
I have no problem to give many chances but imagine a user on Bitcointalk who scammed 1 BTC or a large amount of money like that guy named the young millionaire. If TYM teleports his account in this forum, and pretends like he is okay, I don't think others will feel safer.

A user can have many accounts and as long as it is not representing their Teleported account and not violating any rules of the forum then I think he is okay but if the user connect an account using teleportation then he is representing his previous reputation in this forum too.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2024, 08:04:46 AM »
I have no problem to give many chances but imagine a user on Bitcointalk who scammed 1 BTC or a large amount of money like that guy named the young millionaire. If TYM teleports his account in this forum, and pretends like he is okay, I don't think others will feel safer.

A user can have many accounts and as long as it is not representing their Teleported account and not violating any rules of the forum then I think he is okay but if the user connect an account using teleportation then he is representing his previous reputation in this forum too.

As I said in previous posts, if a user who has used AI for their posts or engaged in unusual behavior comes to this forum, they may be given a second chance if they comply with the forum rules. But (as I have also said in other posts) if a user with scam tags brings their account here, their account will be blocked immediately.

Bad behavior is one thing, which can be corrected to be able to be on the forum normally, and scammers are another thing, who will be blocked instantly.

If TYM teleports his account to this forum, it will mean among other things, that he is not as smart as he thinks.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2024, 01:59:11 PM »
I have no problem to give many chances but imagine a user on Bitcointalk who scammed 1 BTC or a large amount of money like that guy named the young millionaire. If TYM teleports his account in this forum, and pretends like he is okay, I don't think others will feel safer.

I have posted my opinion a few days ago regarding this in this thread. I think if someone is a proven scammer like the one you mentioned, they should have a negative tag or kind of badge in their account. This is how other users will know about that user. I am too young to know the guy you mentioned. But I saw his account on BCT.

However, when it comes to negative feedback for other questionable or fixable things on a 2nd chance, then the user deserves a 2nd chance. A person can change if they get a chance. But, if they repeat the same thing again and again, then you guys may consider giving them a negative feedback.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2024, 07:17:19 AM »
Well I agree with this. These are forums where you can trade stuff, so you should be treated as the same person as any other forum you are on, for transactional purposes.

On regular forums like Slashdot or something, it is not much of a big deal.

How many people use the forum to trade? How much is the percentage? I am sure it's less than 5%. Most users (Including me) use the forum because they want to make money from the campaigns and learn about new projects and other things every day. If someone is a proven scammer who cheated on others, damaging someone, they deserve to get negative tags.

If you don't trade or carry out other types of transactions or attempt to earn money (or karma) some other way, then you neither have a positive nor negative reputation.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2024, 07:58:40 AM »
If you don't trade or carry out other types of transactions or attempt to earn money (or karma) some other way, then you neither have a positive nor negative reputation.

Let's say I attempt to earn money in some way, such as participating in raffles, bounties, or signature campaigns. Do I have a reputation? The growth of this forum has increased just because of the signature campaigns and we came to this forum because of the same reason. Some of us got the chance in the signature campaign just because we were known to the campaign managers. They did not have other ways to verify how quality of our content. The same managers manage the campaigns here too. So, If someone's reputation is bad on BitcoinTalk, the managers likely to know about him.
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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2024, 04:02:34 PM »
As I said in previous posts, if a user who has used AI for their posts or engaged in unusual behavior comes to this forum, they may be given a second chance if they comply with the forum rules. But (as I have also said in other posts) if a user with scam tags brings their account here, their account will be blocked immediately.
What does scam tags mean exactly?
Negative feedback can be given to members for different things, not only for scam, and that is not really moderated in bitcointalk forum.
Cheating should be considered in a similar way like scamming, especially if someone is repeating the same thing and continues to lie others.

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Re: Should reputation follow you here?
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2024, 12:06:07 PM »
What does scam tags mean exactly?
Negative feedback can be given to members for different things, not only for scam, and that is not really moderated in bitcointalk forum.
Cheating should be considered in a similar way like scamming, especially if someone is repeating the same thing and continues to lie others.

Case by case. No need trying to find solutions for all hypothetical cases most of which will never appear. As for now we saw some cases of AI users and plagiarists who came here. We don't suppose them dangerous and let them to use a chance of a fresh start if they are ready to start behave good. If you see any scammer, share your finding and we will look at it. If it will look dangerous for our users, we will take the corresponding actions. ???
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