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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Bobcrypto on May 12, 2022, 09:06:10 PM

Title: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Bobcrypto on May 12, 2022, 09:06:10 PM
I am wondering why a stable coin experience a big dump like what is currently happening to UST stable token on the Luna network. as at the time of writing this post, UST/busd pair is Trading at $0.357 to Busd. What a superised at this development, but it could need the forum members to explain what is happening to the UST stable coin.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: mohdelayo on May 12, 2022, 10:29:32 PM
UST is an algorithmic stable coin unlike the usual stables like USDT and BUSD that are pegged on a 1:1 ratio with the United States Dollars (USD), What this mean is for every BUSD or USDT that is in circulation, there's a dollar representing it that is locked in a vault. The case of UST, the value is pegged algorithmically to the native asset Luna, to always keep it value stable at 1. What is happening right now is a Proof that algorithmic stables can be attacked and exploited as we see ij the case of UST.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Hisbullah on May 12, 2022, 10:38:42 PM
yeah, it's unbelievable, stable coin dumped.
UST being interesting topic to discuss now.
But It's just panic selling and panic buying,
we should good analysis to do.
Be careful to buy or sell.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: alltalk on May 12, 2022, 11:37:15 PM
UST is not the same as other stable coins, it doesn't have a backup with actual cash. The price of UST cannot be as stable as other stable coins. It is also related to the big crash in Luna, UST price is influenced as well. So, it is not surprising if the UST price can drop from $0,8 to $0,3. However, the price may recover if Luna price can increase again in the future.

Related sources:
- https://www.coingecko.com/id/koin_koin/terra-usd
- https://mashable.com/article/ust-luna-what-is-happening
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: DAMKAR on May 13, 2022, 03:53:44 AM
I think If the stable coin didn't back up by  actual cash, Its risky.
So, be careful.
UST was going down because we know about  several news  about Luna and UST.
Better to buy more other coins,
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: pelana vreo on May 13, 2022, 03:22:46 PM
This situation becomes an important experience to be careful in choosing a stable coin, UST is not backed up with USD, but backed up by LUNA.
I think, it would be great if the UST is backed up with Gold to avoid a big dump like the current one.
The current price of UST is $0.17 and I think it will continue to fall, when more people are selling it.
The developers must take responsibility for this, they must take swift action so that the stable coin UST can return to its initial price and increase the confidence of crypto investors.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: TomPluz on May 13, 2022, 04:21:55 PM


What is happening with UST is a big revelation tat not all stablecoin are really stable and there can be those that are backed with something that can easily lose value. Actually, UST is not that a very popular stablecoin and this is not pegged to any fiat money in comparison to the most popular stablecoin like USDT. Had it been me, I would not allow UST to categorize itself as stablecoin because it is not and never will be. Unfortunately, UST affected the whole cryptocurrency market including the dump of BTC and other major coins. One weak link is all it takes to push the whole crypto market into the brink of collpase...am just imagining what can happen to us if it will be USDT that will collapse...wow!
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Istiak on May 13, 2022, 06:49:32 PM
This happens because of some bad actors from the markets. They use their UST reserve to break the page and when LFG tries to create 4 pool by withdrawing all of the remaining UST from 3 pool, then those bad actors dump their UST in the market which broke the peg. An auto system triggered where luna was minting and try to buy back UST from the market to bring back the peg. But the panicked market increase sell pressure and team also multiply mining capacity which worsens the situation. Overall bad management of the team.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: de_prof on May 13, 2022, 07:37:26 PM
This happens because of some bad actors from the markets. They use their UST reserve to break the page and when LFG tries to create 4 pool by withdrawing all of the remaining UST from 3 pool, then those bad actors dump their UST in the market which broke the peg. An auto system triggered where luna was minting and try to buy back UST from the market to bring back the peg. But the panicked market increase sell pressure and team also multiply mining capacity which worsens the situation. Overall bad management of the team.

Yeah, it's crypto we will see the strange and unbelievable happening.
UST , many people said It's stable coins.
But was going down.
I think UST is not stable coin now.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Bobcrypto on May 13, 2022, 07:54:30 PM
Yes, I think you are correct, UST could only be a stable coin if it is backed with the USD or probably with gold. Again the team should wake up to the challenges to redeem the project potential and the hope of investor plus it's users or risk  Luna being delisted from all exchange. Allready, some of Luna markets (like, coin ($)margin futures, margin tradinng pairs) hs been delisted on many reputable exchange across the globe.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: elbans89 on May 16, 2022, 04:38:48 PM
Yeah, It seems funny ,if stable coins become unstable or dump.But UST is not back up by gold or cash money / USD.
It's the problem why , this coin is not stable coin.
Hopefully UST will touch 1$ again soon.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on May 16, 2022, 08:14:34 PM
I feel it is an intentionally big manipulation by the big players. We all know UST is an algorithm-based stable coin as compared to BUSD and USDT that are pegged with an equal ratio of USD so that is more reliable in my opinion but UST collapsed the trust in the stable coin also. Let's see what UST dev KWON will do to stand it again in the market but it's not easy to gain the trust of the investors and traders.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: anshor1 on May 17, 2022, 04:22:09 AM
I feel it is an intentionally big manipulation by the big players. We all know UST is an algorithm-based stable coin as compared to BUSD and USDT that are pegged with an equal ratio of USD so that is more reliable in my opinion but UST collapsed the trust in the stable coin also. Let's see what UST dev KWON will do to stand it again in the market but it's not easy to gain the trust of the investors and traders.

Every people are waiting the de Kwon decision, But I think UST willnot be stable coins again.
Maybe will migrate to other coin or rebrand.
I agree with you, It's just a game of big players.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: pacar_tiri on May 19, 2022, 05:17:41 AM
I feel it is an intentionally big manipulation by the big players. We all know UST is an algorithm-based stable coin as compared to BUSD and USDT that are pegged with an equal ratio of USD so that is more reliable in my opinion but UST collapsed the trust in the stable coin also. Let's see what UST dev KWON will do to stand it again in the market but it's not easy to gain the trust of the investors and traders.

Every people are waiting the de Kwon decision, But I think UST willnot be stable coins again.
Maybe will migrate to other coin or rebrand.
I agree with you, It's just a game of big players.

You're right Luna, UST are the just game of bug players.
We should know about this condition.
I suggest don't invest on both, those are really risky
Better to choose other coins.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Alcor on June 08, 2022, 08:18:59 PM
Yeah, It seems funny ,if stable coins become unstable or dump.But UST is not back up by gold or cash money / USD.
It's the problem why , this coin is not stable coin.
Hopefully UST will touch 1$ again soon.
A stablecoin cannot be backed by a cryptocurrency that is inherently highly volatile. UST, as far as I know, was backed by the regular Luna cryptocurrency, and as soon as it got in trouble, UST got into trouble too. If this happens, states will take up strict regulation of both cryptocurrencies and stablecoins. Then the entire cryptocurrency market will suffer.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Seerge on June 08, 2022, 08:29:57 PM
This is Cryptocurrency, a Cryptocurrency project has easily created a stable coin which is equivalent to USD. But after the project was destroyed, the value or price of the stable coin was also destroyed. This is because there are no special rules in Crypto when the project must create a stable coin, so that when a crash occurs, investors are the ones who lose.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: dekafee79 on June 10, 2022, 03:40:09 PM
This is Cryptocurrency, a Cryptocurrency project has easily created a stable coin which is equivalent to USD. But after the project was destroyed, the value or price of the stable coin was also destroyed. This is because there are no special rules in Crypto when the project must create a stable coin, so that when a crash occurs, investors are the ones who lose.

I think that's normal in crypto currency, If stable coin will dump.
But It's strange for Luna foundation.
I personally prefer in BUSD as my trading pair than other.
Because I often trade in binance exchange
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Speaker on June 10, 2022, 07:44:50 PM
everything that is centralized has a chance to become a scam. It's just that the bigger you are, the harder it will be to pull it off and the higher the responsibility.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Jaephoenix on June 10, 2022, 11:01:06 PM
It's happening in many crypto projects now. Terra's UST, Dei and now EvoBridge stable coins. All unpegged. Unfortunately it was caught up in EvoBridge furore, it's so bad that the USDC is 4xUSDT and there is no liquidity on the bridge
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Ghozrd on June 11, 2022, 08:29:38 AM
That's what we see, there is no guarantee of stablecoins in crypto to be stable as they promise, there is always a problem because there is no guarantee of price transparency to keep stablecoins stable. financial guarantees and gold are very much needed, but in fact USDT also received a warning from financial supervisory institutions for not providing information on how much USD they backed up for USDT, on the other hand UST collapsed because of their de-pegging error to keep UST prices stable and in fact UST well below the USD.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: naitik01 on June 11, 2022, 11:30:19 AM
The stable coin remains almost stable, there are minor changes in it, but the accident of Luna destabilized all the stable coins for once, but this situation lasted for a short time.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Alichlas92 on June 11, 2022, 01:20:14 PM
UST is an algorithmic stable coin unlike the usual stables like USDT and BUSD that are pegged on a 1:1 ratio with the United States Dollars (USD), What this mean is for every BUSD or USDT that is in circulation, there's a dollar representing it that is locked in a vault. The case of UST, the value is pegged algorithmically to the native asset Luna, to always keep it value stable at 1. What is happening right now is a Proof that algorithmic stables can be attacked and exploited as we see ij the case of UST.

besides USDT and BUSD there are several stablecoins. other than stablecoins USDT and BUSD are they the same as UST?
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Afony on June 11, 2022, 02:24:24 PM
All the same, these USD, BUSD will be small losses associated with a fall or increase in the dollar price, these coins are tied for the safety and reliability of the entire cryptocurrency. Looking at the market now, these coins are well suited for the safety of funds so as not to lose everything.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: silkytakyaan86 on June 12, 2022, 03:44:51 PM
You are right. It happened. For example, Terra usdt. All this is certain in the crypto market. As there is a market in the market downturn right now. In this, everything is flowing downwards.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Lanirex on June 12, 2022, 06:05:15 PM
Maybe this happened only in UST, not in other stable coins, and the price of UST experienced a dump due to the destruction of the Terra Blockchain and the LUNA Coin. They are afraid of losing the value of their assets so UST holders sell their coins at a low price, this is strange but this is what happened.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Jaephoenix on June 13, 2022, 12:43:24 AM
It is happening frequently these days. Happened to Dei and now Evo Bridge. EvoBridge which is a common multichain swap has been illiquid for quite some time. Swaps don't work, especially from Emerald Oasis paratime to other blockchains like BSC, Ethereum wouldn't get stuck for days. USDT dumped to $0.25 but is recovering now
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: Speaker on June 14, 2022, 04:53:50 PM
Maybe this happened only in UST, not in other stable coins, and the price of UST experienced a dump due to the destruction of the Terra Blockchain and the LUNA Coin. They are afraid of losing the value of their assets so UST holders sell their coins at a low price, this is strange but this is what happened.
It's just an algorithmic stablecoin with inherent weaknesses that have been exploited.Then cascading sales, the entry of the asset into the "spiral of death". For some reason, I think that the fraudulent schemes of the founder, who recently sold off assets for a large sum, are also involved here.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: bayiajaib on June 26, 2022, 08:33:13 PM
I am wondering why a stable coin experience a big dump like what is currently happening to UST stable token on the Luna network. as at the time of writing this post, UST/busd pair is Trading at $0.357 to Busd. What a superised at this development, but it could need the forum members to explain what is happening to the UST stable coin.

That's the fact, stable coin is liable to dump.
Because It's crypto.
It's  happened in UST stable because Luna effect.
So, be careful mate.
Title: Re: unbelievable, stable coin is liable to dump?
Post by: yohananaomi on July 07, 2022, 01:02:11 AM
I am wondering why a stable coin experience a big dump like what is currently happening to UST stable token on the Luna network. as at the time of writing this post, UST/busd pair is Trading at $0.357 to Busd. What a superised at this development, but it could need the forum members to explain what is happening to the UST stable coin.

That's the fact, stable coin is liable to dump.
Because It's crypto.
It's  happened in UST stable because Luna effect.
So, be careful mate.

logically the stablecoin should always follow developments or equal to 1US$, but what happened with UST was beyond control and habit in general. Of course this is quite confusing why there can be a decline and not always the same as US $ as the stablecoin name implies.
Is it because UST is not backed by bond assets like other stablecoins, but only because it relies on bitcoin reserves that have been stored? Everyone will be more careful with cases like this.