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    There is a saying:
"This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things"

As you might have noticed, on this forum we have an activity-based ranking system.

There are always some people that will try to cheat the system. This is why as a community we moderate the system that we created.

Due to those abusing the system just to rank up, such as replies with 1 or 2 words just to increase post count:
  • Quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted. Instead they are punishable
  • There are low quality penalties you can receive: negative karma, loss of points, strikes and LQP
  • Please do not report low quality posts to mods, this is moderated by -karma, otherwise > Penalty

This is how you can help us with low quality posters:

This is what you can do to punish low quality posters:
  • If you are a karma issuing member, give -karma if you feel it's appropriate, but do not abuse this otherwise > Penalty

The penalties you will initially face for shistposting varies:
  • Negative karma given to you by members of the forum as well as moderators
  • The loss of points or rank demotion when sentenced by a judge in the forum court

- Removing negative karma: You lose some of your points and you need to send 3 ALTS/per negative karma

Repeat offenders who continue to shipost can be given:
  • Behavioral strikes:
    • 1st strike    => First offense
    • 2nd strike => Last chance
    • 3rd strike  => Posts administrated
  • LQP Penalty:        => Tagged for LQP

  • Removing 1 strike: You lose 1/2 your points and you need to send 10 ALTS
  • Removing 2 strike: You lose 3/4 of your points and you need to send 50 ALTS
  • Removing 3 strike: You lose all your points and you need to send 250 ALTS

Some advise:
  • If you want to rank up, this is absolutely no problem and there is nothing against that, but rank up with quality posts, not shit posts!
  • Read the forum rules before posting and learn how to rank up without receiving penalties, otherwise you may be punished.
  • Provide good answers, interesting questions, useful topics and helpful comments for other members.

If the user is posting very frequently or bumping threads in a spammy way, report them here.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2021, 11:55:32 AM by dragononcrypto »
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 03:24:04 PM »
Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 04:01:06 PM »
Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?

this penalty will only address those who abuse,
meaning, from time to time everyone will post a low quality reply, they are not the ones targeted in this penalty
The people targeted are those who do this all the time or very frequently , to rank up
i will no go backward, but if i happen to find anyone doing it since this penalty is introduced, then he will lose a certain amount of post counts, 10, 20, 30 etc ...
thus please everyone, no more shitty posts!
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2018, 04:05:54 PM »
Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?

this penalty will only address those who abuse,
meaning, from time to time everyone will post a low quality reply, they are not the ones targeted in this penalty
The people targeted are those who do this all the time or very frequently , to rank up
i will no go backward, but if i happen to find anyone doing it since this penalty is introduced, then he will lose a certain amount of post counts, 10, 20, 30 etc ...
thus please everyone, no more shitty posts!

Copy sir! I will translate this on my local language and post this as a warning to everyone!
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2018, 04:24:44 PM »
There is a saying This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things

There is always some people that will try to cheat the system,

On this forum as you might have noticed we have an easy ranking up system, no waiting for several month to rank up ...
this led some to abuse of the system just to rank up, giving these people negative karma will not prevent them from improving their contribution.

For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...

We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.

If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.

The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.

Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.

My advise:
If you want to rank up, there is absolutely no problem, and i have nothing against that, but rank with quality posts, not shit posts!!
Best option:
1- Post questions/ answers in your local language section.
2- Contribute in discussions give your opinion.

Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.

For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.

I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2018, 04:43:13 PM »
There is a saying This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things

There is always some people that will try to cheat the system,

On this forum as you might have noticed we have an easy ranking up system, no waiting for several month to rank up ...
this led some to abuse of the system just to rank up, giving these people negative karma will not prevent them from improving their contribution.

For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...

We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.

If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.

The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.

Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.

My advise:
If you want to rank up, there is absolutely no problem, and i have nothing against that, but rank with quality posts, not shit posts!!
Best option:
1- Post questions/ answers in your local language section.
2- Contribute in discussions give your opinion.

Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.

For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.

I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.

incentive to ranking up is a greater share, i will write a post on the way the members can get share of distribution
karma to rank up implementation is risky as we already have a lot changed, but will look into it
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2018, 05:45:32 PM »
I have evaluated what you are making right now. and even then I delete the comments of each low level member as you explain.
I know which ones are qualified and not. for warning I will put my subforum on.

so far i keep monitoring comments comments every member for my part.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 07:00:26 PM »
Good solution. Also, I will translate this topic to portuguese section.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 11:05:04 PM »
My two cents. I fully agree with Low Quality Penalty.

But don't agree with you dragononcrypto.

Rule in Low Quality Penalty: The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.

your words: it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot.

Users with no quality posts will be penalized, so if user's posts are good in quality, let him/her to write many posts and rank up. I don't see any sense to have some karma for ranking up.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 03:37:35 AM »
My two cents. I fully agree with Low Quality Penalty.

But don't agree with you dragononcrypto.

Rule in Low Quality Penalty: The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.

your words: it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot.

Users with no quality posts will be penalized, so if user's posts are good in quality, let him/her to write many posts and rank up. I don't see any sense to have some karma for ranking up.

I agree with what you say, because deleting the low quality postings is reasonable and there is no karma for them. chances are they are new to the forum unless they have long members to be affirmed again

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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 11:41:19 PM »
At long last the solution is set on board. I totally agree with this idea as many members are just particular with the rank and not the quality of the post. I will do my best to support this implementation in whatever way.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2018, 01:57:18 AM »
What to do with this posts?


Delete if found and is dated after penalty introduction, later on check the profile for another spam post and if found then report to Admin?
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2018, 01:57:13 PM »
Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.

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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2018, 08:23:32 AM »
Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.

I agree with this one. If karma is needed to rank up like BTT we cannot grow enough. Since this is early stages of the forum we'll have to be somewhat lenient. I don't say that we should spare bad quality posts. But show some leniency.
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Re: Low Quality Penalty
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2018, 09:12:09 AM »
I see the forum is trying it's best to stop the shitposters. Once an member become loyal to any forum then basically do not care about ranking up or this kind of stuffs. I hope I will have good time here. Just a newbie expecting to hangup with the community.
         
         
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