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Fear or greed
« on: January 15, 2024, 04:53:03 PM »
Hopefully this falls under trading.
I'm gonna make it short
There are two emotions i believe dictates trade and leads to either gains or losses. Fear and greed.
They are like every investors companion.
Which do you think is more dangerous?

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2024, 05:47:08 PM »
Hopefully this falls under trading.
I'm gonna make it short
There are two emotions i believe dictates trade and leads to either gains or losses. Fear and greed.
They are like every investors companion.
Which do you think is more dangerous?
My answer is simple: they are neither dangerous nor good, everything depends on the investor.
The market operates based on the buying and selling activities of investors, investors make decisions based on personal analysis, and this analysis is strongly influenced by emotions of greed or fear.

Greed (or fear) at the right time will help investors have the opportunity to increase (or protect) assets.
On the contrary, investors will miss the opportunity to take profits (make profits) in the market.

So investor's job is to accept the existence of these emotions and take advantage of them accordingly.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2024, 06:12:10 PM »
Fear is usually afraid of the token chosen or with an analysis that is not sure of your opinion, maybe when the market is down there is always a fear that the price is going down while being able to sell at the capital price, let alone profit.

The usual greed of the trader always wants a big profit even though the 20% profit is in sight because of greed, he wants higher and in the end it becomes a loss because he does not sell when it is his target.

So it depends on their emotional control whether they can reduce or be more disciplined with their targets, because in trading if you don't have good skills then you will lose.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2024, 07:03:56 AM »
Fear and Greed must be stable between the two and applied by traders and investors at the right time.
It may be difficult to find the right time because we cannot know when cryptocurrency prices will fall or rise.
When we see the market is red, we have to be "Fear" to be able to buy Z coins. When the market is green, we have to "Greed" to look for more profits.
My statement also may not be commensurate with those who have a broad view of cryptocurrency because everyone definitely has tips and tricks for trading.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2024, 04:10:28 PM »
When we see the market is red, we have to be "Fear" to be able to buy Z coins. When the market is green, we have to "Greed" to look for more profits.
My statement also may not be commensurate with those who have a broad view of cryptocurrency because everyone definitely has tips and tricks for trading.
It is more easily to say rather than to practice it with high discipline. Majority of people in the market fail to do this even they all one time or more times were exposed with this statement from Warren Buffet which surely cited many times.

"Be fearful when others are greedy; and be greedy when others are fearful"

In Bitcoin market, use this chart to get general sentiment of majority in this market.
Bitcoin Fear and Greed Index. Many people missed chances and prices months ago that are good for accumulation and hold.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2024, 04:41:35 PM »
Both ain't actually good but depends the time it's start overwhelming. But I think both should be managed because greed can either bring profit or losses at the end most time  endup bringing losses. Like few days back was actually trading and was winning but due to greed I didn't so I wanted to make more. then end up buying a coin (shorting) thinking I will make more profit And at that same time bitcoin ETF was approved. Market experience a surge and I was in losses. But due to fear of losing more I cut my losses, selling at the wrong time accumulating too much losses but now that same coin has dip. Just imagine that I was able to hold my fear or was able to fight greed and call it a day I wouldn't make so much losses that day. So both actually got their way of working and affecting your trading.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2024, 04:58:04 PM »
I would say that fear is more dangerous than greed, because it either paralyzes ability to think a person makes a rash decision, but greed triggers brain to work to get even more. Imo traders sells in fear to save what could be lost, and sells due to greed, because he is already thinking about the plan to increase. One is to save, other is to fix what has already been earned. During fear person is more desperate, during greed his brain neurons work faster and more productive.
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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2024, 04:58:04 PM »


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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2024, 05:28:36 PM »
Hopefully this falls under trading.
I'm gonna make it short
There are two emotions i believe dictates trade and leads to either gains or losses. Fear and greed.
They are like every investors companion.
Which do you think is more dangerous?

Don't give trading that kind of approach of gambling, there's nothing like fear or greed while trading as you may have it with gambling, risk taking is what we consider most in trading and how experienced you're in knowing what you're doing or not, when you're a trader, you understand the network you're dealing with, the currency you're trading and the performances it already had previously before you started, then couple that with skill and how lucky you're doing your market speculations accurately using various indicators.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2024, 06:16:43 PM »
Hopefully this falls under trading.
I'm gonna make it short
There are two emotions i believe dictates trade and leads to either gains or losses. Fear and greed.
They are like every investors companion.
Which do you think is more dangerous?

I think all traders probably felt that feeling of fear and greed. The only difference is whether they overcome it or not. In short, it depends on us if we can apply it to actual trade.

Because I believe that when you have extensive knowledge of crypto trading, you will not feel fear or greed while doing the trading activity. It depends if daily, twice a week, or thrice a month. But as much as possible, while we are doing the trading in the crypto business, let's continue and deepen the study of cryptocurrency.
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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2024, 11:09:34 PM »

When I trade, other than futures, I do something very simple and I prevent myself from having those feelings, for example I place my order, I open it, I set my stop loss and I set my take profit, like most exchanges do. They have two functions, because what I do is set my Stop Loss and wait at the end of the day, if the stop loss hits, nothing happens, because I have two more opportunities to win, if I am not successful in those 3 opportunities What I do is rest, because my vision of trading is not correct, that is, I am seeing the market wrong, so I see things like that, of course it is my way of seeing trading, of seeing the market and of seeing how I can do things, of course everyone has their own way of analyzing the market.

This is what we must see more clearly whenever we are going to do tradition, so one does not suffer from emotions or suffer from greed or anything, if you win, great if not, because you have to accept the loss and that's it.
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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2024, 11:25:48 PM »
Both of them certainly have a big influence on our decisions when in the market, especially when we carry out trading that is not for long-term investment. Vir can make us panic quickly and easily so this can really influence our decisions when the market suddenly changes direction not according to what we expected. and if we are in a vira or panic condition like that, sometimes we can't decide something wisely so instead we want to end the trading quickly and end up with a loss. even though if we can be wiser we can manage the Fir to be more careful in making decisions so that we can really understand what to decide whether it is with a cut loss or with other tactics that can cover these losses.

Likewise with greed. This is also a trait that we must avoid because if we are too greedy we will usually feel less and hope that we will always get higher and higher profits. so that often we actually get the opposite result, namely being late to take profit at the right moment and then the market turns around very quickly so that we actually miss the moment to make a profit and in the end we will make up too. So both are the same, especially if we have both, that's fine. It seems like we have to learn more to manage these two emotions.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2024, 02:45:49 AM »
First of all, the both has an impact in terms of trading or investment but for me, I would like to say greed is the most dangerous part in a life of an investor because ones someone invest, investor  would like to cash out big which might cause a huge loss forgetting the saying that say Roman was not built in a day.
Greed can lead to over-confidence and risky decision making in a way the investor will not take their gain with the hope of the price will still go higher.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2024, 02:59:59 AM »
"Be fearful when others are greedy; and be greedy when others are fearful"
This principle is very difficult to implement, I am just an ordinary person in cryptocurrency and there are many more Legendaries who understand more about cryptocurrency trading.
Warren Buffet is also a famous person and certainly has a lot of money in his pocket that is unlimited but he has definitely experienced a lot of losses, if there were a few losses I wouldn't believe it because he has a lot of assets.
One side that I feel right now is fear because the market is green, maybe this is better for me because when the market is red I will choose GREED to buy more cryptocurrency. This is my choice, do you think my choice is worth it?

Bitcoin Fear and Greed Index.
Wuoaahh , I just found out about this website, and I checked it just now.
But I have a little confusion with the colors Green, Yellow and Dark Brown.
This green color is Greed, the dark brown color is Fear, right?  ???  Please explain to me , because this the first time i see this website.

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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2024, 03:42:44 AM »
One side that I feel right now is fear because the market is green, maybe this is better for me because when the market is red I will choose GREED to buy more cryptocurrency. This is my choice, do you think my choice is worth it?
Previously, I zoom out the chart to get a wide view of the Market price and Fear & Greed Index on the same chart.

For a specific time, you can zoom in the chart to see what has been going on recent months, like this.

Above chart shows people were greedy a lot recent months and just days ago, the index hits 76.

You can combine it with the NUPL chart.

Fear or Greed, has more effects on short term traders and if you are a long term holder, you don't have to care about it too much. You can simply hold your bitcoins if you are unsure about next movements in the market next few days or even some weeks. With long term vision of a holder, you know Bitcoin halving is counting down to last 3 months and you know that halving is a big event for Bitcoin every four years.

If this is a situation in a year without Bitcoin halving, it's good to exit the market with this Index score. However, with this year, an upcoming halving, hodl is better.

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But I have a little confusion with the colors Green, Yellow and Dark Brown.
This green color is Greed, the dark brown color is Fear, right?  ???  Please explain to me , because this the first time i see this website.
See

This is their Fear and Greed Index scale and they have simple guide which I quote part of it below.
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How To Use Fear And Greed Index To Understand Market Sentiments

The Fear and Greed Index is on a simple 0 to 100 scale and color-coded accordingly where 0 is red and 100 is green.

When the score is red and close to zero this signals extreme fear and could indicate that many Bitcoin ($BTC) and crypto investors are too concerned about the price dropping further. At this point in time crypto fear is high and investors may not be thinking rationally.

When the score is green and close to 100 this signals extreme greed and could indicate that many investors of Bitcoin ($BTC) and crypto are too excited about the prices rising a lot further in the future.
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Re: Fear or greed
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2024, 12:00:06 PM »
Fear is usually afraid of the token chosen or with an analysis that is not sure of your opinion, maybe when the market is down there is always a fear that the price is going down while being able to sell at the capital price, let alone profit.

The usual greed of the trader always wants a big profit even though the 20% profit is in sight because of greed, he wants higher and in the end it becomes a loss because he does not sell when it is his target.

So it depends on their emotional control whether they can reduce or be more disciplined with their targets, because in trading if you don't have good skills then you will lose.
The majority of members answered neutral, meaning that greed and fear exist in financial markets, and it depends on the ability to analyze the market and manage one's emotions. I agree but will add one separate opinion.
To me, greed is more dangerous than fear!

When we are afraid, we can only take profits prematurely or cut losses too early. That creates little profit or slight loss. Fo the account, this is not a bad thing. Even those who are afraid of the crypto market are still standing on the sidelines and have not invested, they are not losing money as the majority of investors in the market. Those who did not participate were more successful than the majority of those who did, it is interesting.

On the contrary, when greedy: investing when FOMO and expectations are too high for market fluctuations based on subjective analysis will lead to failure and big losses. For the account, greed is extremely dangerous. When capital runs out, all analysis or opportunities become meaningless. More dangerously, greed can destroy the lives of traders outside the market.

Always be cautious of greed!
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