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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2024, 10:03:44 PM »
I want to know what methods you follow to buy Bitcoin if you live in a country that does not have online payment services.

I live in a country where we don't have any online payment services because they are blocked by payment services, so the only way available here is via P2p.

Bitcoin cannot be purchased directly, so we use other methods, for example by purchasing a stablecoins such as USDT Tron, BUSD.

The purchase is through a broker, who receives a commission of 1-2%, then transfer USDT Tron, BUSD to any central exchange, and then buy Bitcoin at the market price.

The problem is when transfer Bitcoin from the DEX to the wallet, they take a high fees, in addition to of course the broker’s fee. But this is the only solution available here.

Is there another solution based on your experiences?
Here is complete similarity of my country with your country My country doesn't have online payment service where I can buy bitcoins.  To buy bitcoins from my country must use my p2p system like you do. I use this same system as you to buy bitcoins but now I don't buy bitcoins that way anymore now I save the bitcoins I earn I don't use it for my family work I do physical work to run my family  I am carrying the expenses of my family with the money of that job. Buying bitcoins using p2p is the best solution where you don't have to hear any problem from anyone you can buy your bitcoins using p2p instantly. It doesn't matter if you have to pay a little fee though.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2024, 10:28:46 PM »
Here is complete similarity of my country with your country My country doesn't have online payment service where I can buy bitcoins.  To buy bitcoins from my country must use my p2p system like you do. I use this same system as you to buy bitcoins but now I don't buy bitcoins that way anymore now I save the bitcoins I earn I don't use it for my family work I do physical work to run my family  I am carrying the expenses of my family with the money of that job.
This is really unfortunate, in the end everyone chooses the method that suits their country's situation.

For me, I rely heavily on the Bitcoin that I earn through my participation in signature campaigns here and in the other forum to obtain Bitcoin in the wallet. Of course, this is the best and easiest method, but it is not available to everyone who is not a member of the two forums.

This is our good fortune to obtain Bitcoin in an easy way by writing.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2024, 04:01:51 PM »
I don't buy bitcoins that way anymore now I save the bitcoins I earn I don't use it for my family work I do physical work to run my family  I am carrying the expenses of my family with the money of that job. Buying bitcoins using p2p is the best solution where you don't have to hear any problem from anyone you can buy your bitcoins using p2p instantly. It doesn't matter if you have to pay a little fee though.
Out of curiosity, why did you stop buying Bitcoin? Or are you saying that you stop trading your Bitcoin for your monthly needs and decide to save it for the future? If investment is your goal, maybe it is a good idea to watch the market at the moment since we're likely in a bull run, especially after the halving. Selling some of your Bitcoin is not a bad idea as long as you know how to enter the market again. I made the mistake of not selling anything in the last 2 bull runs so my wealth doesn't change that much. It is tricky, but I believe it is worth a shot if you're fine with the risk even with P2P trades. But I'm not sure how exactly P2P works in your area so I can't comment on that. I believe Bisq should work even if there is no payment provider that allows you to buy crypto directly. Remember to DWYOR and DYOR though. CMIIW.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2024, 06:04:29 PM »
I am actually confused that if internet based banking system is closed in your country then how the payment is made out for online services. Also, since you didn't mention your country, I couldn't even guess which country and how Bitcoin could be traded there. If your country has a ban on online fiat currency banking then I don't see any option to use bitcoin or crypto currency in any way.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2024, 10:32:51 PM »
We do p2p face to face and not in DEXs. There is a Telegram channel for financial brokerage where you send a money transfer to the broker and then he sends USDT to your address in DEXs and after that you buy Bitcoin or another currency if you like.
Hmm the method you have shared, I won't call it face-to-face, as you are not meeting with the seller or buyer, you are just using another means in this case telegram is the mean of making p2p trade, while where payment services are allowed like let's say in Pakistan, if we have payment service, that means we can send money from one person to another using Binance If I want to buy BTC or USDT, I would go to Binance, P2P and then find some seller, open the deal, and then will use payment service to send him money and he will send assets to my exchange wallet.

In this trade, the exchange works as a middleman and ensures fraud-free trade, so why don't you actually use Exchange, for such a purpose if you are able to transfer funds to the broker, BTW you didn't not mentioned the way of transferring it, I hope it would be offline otherwise you are not making sense or I am getting confused!
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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2024, 11:42:20 PM »
Here is complete similarity of my country with your country My country doesn't have online payment service where I can buy bitcoins.  To buy bitcoins from my country must use my p2p system like you do. I use this same system as you to buy bitcoins but now I don't buy bitcoins that way anymore now I save the bitcoins I earn I don't use it for my family work I do physical work to run my family  I am carrying the expenses of my family with the money of that job.
This is really unfortunate, in the end everyone chooses the method that suits their country's situation.
Yes, this is an obstacle for people who want to get involved in the crypto world. Because after all, online payments will really help us in trading in crypto, especially for exchanges. However, if the conditions are like this, brokering is the only way. The risks are like that, it definitely requires quite a lot of fees to pay. But here, if there are a few people who open P2P in that country and are trusted enough, can that help? Or will they also act like brokers because they see this business opportunity? everything went wrong, yeah.


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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2024, 02:21:31 PM »
I am actually confused that if internet based banking system is closed in your country then how the payment is made out for online services. Also, since you didn't mention your country, I couldn't even guess which country and how Bitcoin could be traded there. If your country has a ban on online fiat currency banking then I don't see any option to use bitcoin or crypto currency in any way.
If the online payment system is closed, it will make it difficult for everyone to carry out transactions, even though online payments can make it easier to pay remotely, for example making payments using the online system makes it easier for people to pay taxes from quite a distance and without having to come to the payment location. offline so it will save travel costs which is quite useful.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2024, 11:10:30 AM »
I want to know what methods you follow to buy Bitcoin if you live in a country that does not have online payment services.

I live in a country where we don't have any online payment services because they are blocked by payment services, so the only way available here is via P2p.

Isn't it not even better with the use of the p2p network in buying bitcoin than using the payment service, considering that such has even been blocked, the part of the reasons why bitcoin remains the most significant digital currency that the people want is because of its decentralization, so i see the process of using any of the payment services as a means of exposing yourself to the public that am intobitcoin and have invested, because your privacy is not safe.
There are some countries where crypto currency is illegal and people of those countries simply cannot use different exchanges even if they want to because all those exchange IPs are banned from those countries. But those who are investors and those who have such restrictions in the country do not stop at this step of the government but they are looking for alternative ways how they can use all these exchanges in some other way. There are some premium VPNs that are very private and generally use all these exchanges. All exchanges have been banned in India but still people in India have not given up on using crypto currency, if there is a will there is a way.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2024, 02:05:59 PM »
There are some countries where crypto currency is illegal and people of those countries simply cannot use different exchanges even if they want to because all those exchange IPs are banned from those countries. But those who are investors and those who have such restrictions in the country do not stop at this step of the government but they are looking for alternative ways how they can use all these exchanges in some other way. There are some premium VPNs that are very private and generally use all these exchanges. All exchanges have been banned in India but still people in India have not given up on using crypto currency, if there is a will there is a way.
My problem is the opposite, meaning it is not the government that bans electronic payment services on the Internet or exchanges, but the opposite is true, meaning that it is payment services and exchanges that ban my country, Syria.

Here the problem is more complicated, because even if you use a VPN you will not be able to transfer money from the bank to buy Bitcoin or convert Bitcoin into cash, so the only method available to us in my country here is P2P.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2024, 03:34:50 PM »
We do p2p face to face and not in DEXs. There is a Telegram channel for financial brokerage where you send a money transfer to the broker and then he sends USDT to your address in DEXs and after that you buy Bitcoin or another currency if you like.

You got me and some others pretty confused with this.
You said in the title that you have no online payment services but then how
- Do you send money to that broker?
- how does he manage to get usdt himself?

And from that point there is a lot more to come, like if you have a broker that does this why even bother with usdt and a dex and an extra fee when you could simply buy bitcoins from him, right?

I guess this is more about not having direct access to a cex rather than not having payment services! I expected a situation where you don't have a bank, you don't have a money transmitted anything, and it's all done in cash face to face.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2024, 07:37:13 PM »
You got me and some others pretty confused with this.
You said in the title that you have no online payment services but then how
- Do you send money to that broker?
- how does he manage to get usdt himself?

And from that point there is a lot more to come, like if you have a broker that does this why even bother with usdt and a dex and an extra fee when you could simply buy bitcoins from him, right?

I guess this is more about not having direct access to a cex rather than not having payment services! I expected a situation where you don't have a bank, you don't have a money transmitted anything, and it's all done in cash face to face.
Sorry if I did not explain my problem well. We have local banks and electronic payment services, but international payment services and exchanges are blocking my country. This means we have the Internet and banks, and we also have Bitcoin and Altcoin wallets, but third-party services (CEXs, DEXs, and payment services) are blocking my country, so I cannot buy or sell Bitcoin.

So when I want to buy Bitcoin, for example, I send USDT to the broker from my wallet (not face-to-face), and he sends me Bitcoin directly to my wallet, and when I want to sell Bitcoin, I transfer it to the broker’s wallet, and he sends me cash via a money or bank transfer to my address (not face-to-face).

I hope the picture is clear now.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2024, 09:32:39 PM »
I think P2P transaction is most safest for OP behind countries not have payment service, you can directly make transaction with your community or the same country come from and sent to seller trough bank account. You need looking with exchange have support P2P transaction and buy stable coins there, there are not any fees transaction yet but looking the P2P seller have good rate for selling their stable coins.
After purchasing stable coins trough P2P transaction you can but Bitcoin or other altcoin, its easy although not have payment service for purchasing bitcoin.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2024, 09:46:56 PM »
P2P is probably the only way to go, or at least the most common way to go in those nations. In my country we had bank connections with local exchanges for many years, we just wire transfer money into the accounts of the exchanges, including Binance as well, Binance works with Turkiye, so that means we just wire money to our account in Binance, and then we do whatever we want with it. However, I remember back in days when paypal was illegal (still illegal) and exchanges didn't work that way, so we had to do p2p and I had plenty of p2p trades during that period. Its not ideal though, its quite bad.

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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2024, 10:31:37 PM »
I want to know what methods you follow to buy Bitcoin if you live in a country that does not have online payment services.

I live in a country where we don't have any online payment services because they are blocked by payment services, so the only way available here is via P2p.

Bitcoin cannot be purchased directly, so we use other methods, for example by purchasing a stablecoins such as USDT Tron, BUSD.

The purchase is through a broker, who receives a commission of 1-2%, then transfer USDT Tron, BUSD to any central exchange, and then buy Bitcoin at the market price.

The problem is when transfer Bitcoin from the DEX to the wallet, they take a high fees, in addition to of course the broker’s fee. But this is the only solution available here.

Is there another solution based on your experiences?
Well, what you already said, I would say is the only solution for anyone who lives in a place where they can not make online payments, for example, here in Nigeria when crypto currency was still very new, we used to be able to buy crypto directly from exchanges with our bank debit cards and so on, but after a while, international payments with our local atm cards was blocked by the central bank, and crypto trading was banned also, so we all shifted to p2p means of buying and selling our cash for crypto or crypto for cash.

Today and right now, the ban on crypto have not been lifted yet, but online payments have become very rampant and now, we can comfortably buy and sell crypto and make payments through online means without the government knowing exactly which is crypto payment and which is not.

In the nutshell though, if card payment works in your country for international transactions, then it's possible to buy crypto and pay directly with your bank card (if crypto is not banned in your country though), but in a situation where bank card isn't working, then the only effective solution remains p2p.
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Re: How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have payment services
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2024, 11:16:01 PM »
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Sorry if I did not explain my problem well. We have local banks and electronic payment services, but international payment services and exchanges are blocking my country. This means we have the Internet and banks, and we also have Bitcoin and Altcoin wallets, but third-party services (CEXs, DEXs, and payment services) are blocking my country, so I cannot buy or sell Bitcoin.

So when I want to buy Bitcoin, for example, I send USDT to the broker from my wallet (not face-to-face), and he sends me Bitcoin directly to my wallet, and when I want to sell Bitcoin, I transfer it to the broker’s wallet, and he sends me cash via a money or bank transfer to my address (not face-to-face).

I hope the picture is clear now.

Well, this does make a bit more sense although I don't know how you can get USDT there and not Bitcoin.

But anyhow, a bit of the stuff was cleared up, probably if you would have said from the start something like:
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How to buy Bitcoin in countries that do not have access to crypto exchanges

Yup, sucks and I don't see any other viable method that you can use unless you can temporarily get out of the country, but I have a feeling that is 100x times harder and too expensive given the situation.

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