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How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« on: March 20, 2024, 12:13:43 PM »
So, yesterday, I got a notification from our dear telegram notification bot that I received one negative Karma,



And to be honest with you all, I felt a really strong rage in me, and I think what annoyed me the most is the fact that I don't know who gave it, I really would have loved to retaliate by giving back same negative Karma to the user multiple times, because that made me to actually go back to all my posts from the like 3 days back; to present, and can't really find any post or comment that should warrant anyone giving me a negative Karma, in the end, there is nothing I can do other than to forgo it, that's let it go, but this actually brings me down to asking this questions.


  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
  • Have you ever gotten that negative Karma Notification when you least expect it? How did make you feel? Please be honest.
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How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« on: March 20, 2024, 12:13:43 PM »

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 12:34:14 PM »
I don't know who gave it, I really would have loved to retaliate by giving back same negative Karma to the user multiple times,
This reason is enough to hide the identity of who giving you negative karma. There should be no feeling of revenge just because of one negative karma.

I think the forum introduced Quality Bar, so the reliance on karma will be less.

So far, I do not know how the Quality Bar works, but campaign managers will depend on it in selecting members, and then you will only need to have +1 positive karma.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 04:08:07 PM »
In my case I don't have the notifications because I don't have notifications at all. But I assume that at some point I will get a negative karma if I haven't already. I think it's inevitable and if you don't get any single one, no matter how good a poster you are, it's going to be more a matter of luck.

I think the forum introduced Quality Bar, so the reliance on karma will be less.

So far, I do not know how the Quality Bar works, but campaign managers will depend on it in selecting members, and then you will only need to have +1 positive karma.

Yes, but I bet there will be a correlation, the best colours will be worn by the people with the most positive karma. I don't see that of someone contributing very positively to the forum and having only 1 positive karma.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2024, 04:23:00 PM »
It's not that big of a deal unless you're suspecting that there's an attack against your account. If you suddenly noticed a huge decline, then you can make an appeal. If it just happens randomly, don't fret about it. You will get used to it until such time that you wouldn't even care.

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2024, 05:15:48 PM »
  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
Logically and ethically if I see it seems inconsistent to me, it is because no one can give it just because of his personal outrage or opinion. But I understand why karma's system is kept in this altcointalk forum, maybe the authors of the forum want a completely friendly community and for that maybe karma's data has not been made public yet. But the problem is that there are abusers of the Karma system for them, the opposite of what was intended. Earlier I also opened a topic on how to identify karma abusers, and the answer I got was that only admins can identify it. If we ever get negative karma continuously then you can report this suspicious activate to admin.
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  • Have you ever gotten that negative Karma Notification when you least expect it? How did make you feel? Please be honest.
No I have not received negative karma yet, I expect these negative karmas only when someone does spam, plagiarism. And yes of course no one likes it when he gets a negative karma without any valid cause.

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2024, 08:50:34 PM »
  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
Logically and ethically if I see it seems inconsistent to me, it is because no one can give it just because of his personal outrage or opinion. But I understand why karma's system is kept in this altcointalk forum, maybe the authors of the forum want a completely friendly community and for that maybe karma's data has not been made public yet. But the problem is that there are abusers of the Karma system for them, the opposite of what was intended. Earlier I also opened a topic on how to identify karma abusers, and the answer I got was that only admins can identify it. If we ever get negative karma continuously then you can report this suspicious activate to admin.
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No I have not received negative karma yet, I expect these negative karmas only when someone does spam, plagiarism. And yes of course no one likes it when he gets a negative karma without any valid cause.

Well negative Krama makes you feel bad when you know you have not done wrong and the person feels you deserve a negative Krama

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2024, 10:37:01 PM »
I felt a really strong rage in me, and I think what annoyed me the most is the fact that I don't know who gave it, I really would have loved to retaliate by giving back same negative Karma to the user multiple times,

If you had done this, it would have also been a misuse of the karma system. A more appropriate method would have been for you to take the cse to forum court and tell them about your situation (but since it happened only once, you can just overlook it and continue your activities)

  • Is it right to give negative karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?

In my opinion this is a wrong usage of the karma system. There are times when your opinion will be different from that of others, but that is still not a reason for negative karma to be awarded to that post.   

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I believe I've received negative karma once, and I knew exactly where the -ve karma came from, but still, I didn`t retaliate by giving negative to that user; instead, I just ignored the mention I got from that user a few seconds after the karma notification came in.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2024, 10:37:01 PM »


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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2024, 10:10:05 AM »
I have received negative actions before but I don't understand which of my posts I have received negative actions.  I am not sorry if I get negative karma, but if I don't know which post and because of which mistake I got negative karma, I can't be corrected. So the admin must be updated to see this, and it would be great if I could see which posts got positive karma and which posts got negative karma. And I can spot the mistakes, but in the state I'm in now I can't figure out where the mistakes are.

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2024, 10:21:32 AM »
So, yesterday, I got a notification from our dear telegram notification bot that I received one negative Karma,



And to be honest with you all, I felt a really strong rage in me, and I think what annoyed me the most is the fact that I don't know who gave it, I really would have loved to retaliate by giving back same negative Karma to the user multiple times, because that made me to actually go back to all my posts from the like 3 days back; to present, and can't really find any post or comment that should warrant anyone giving me a negative Karma, in the end, there is nothing I can do other than to forgo it, that's let it go, but this actually brings me down to asking this questions.


  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
  • Have you ever gotten that negative Karma Notification when you least expect it? How did make you feel? Please be honest.

One should be really careful about getting karma, because how can I calm myself down if I don't know which post I got gifted with karma. But I have to be most careful about getting negative karma because if I don't know where I went wrong then I will suffer the most. Every now and then I will receive the gift of karma, but I will not understand where I came from wrong.

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2024, 01:05:38 PM »
No one likes to receive something negative, and when we also have anonymity in all of this, then surely that negativity increases even more because we don't actually know who is the one who expresses such negativity towards us. However, it is definitely better that the karma points are anonymous, because otherwise there would be revenge, and that was even worse.

I don't have any notification bot, so I don't know if I got negative karma, but I wouldn't be surprised if I did - those members who have a bad opinion about me on the BTT forum certainly have it here too. We need to learn to live with the fact that we are not loved by everyone, regardless of the content of our posts.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2024, 01:43:40 PM »

I think the forum introduced Quality Bar, so the reliance on karma will be less.

So far, I do not know how the Quality Bar works, but campaign managers will depend on it in selecting members, and then you will only need to have +1 positive karma.

Yes, but I bet there will be a correlation, the best colours will be worn by the people with the most positive karma. I don't see that of someone contributing very positively to the forum and having only 1 positive karma.
You are completely right, there is no way a user with the best rating color will end up with just 1 positive Karma, or no positive karma at all, for in the end, the number of positive karma that user has is what validates them having the best rating color, and also, them having the best rating Color also validate the number of positive karma such a user have or has earned.

So,. In reality, it will be completely offside to find a user with just 1 or no positive karma at all earn the best color in rating, this is no possible, though I believe there are chances of a user earning a lot of positve karma without a rating color, but the former is not possible, else, even campaign managers will not value the best color rating that much, but will continue to only hire those with higher number of earned positive karma.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2024, 03:25:12 PM »
You are completely right, there is no way a user with the best rating color will end up with just 1 positive Karma, or no positive karma at all, for in the end, the number of positive karma that user has is what validates them having the best rating color, and also, them having the best rating Color also validate the number of positive karma such a user have or has earned.

So,. In reality, it will be completely offside to find a user with just 1 or no positive karma at all earn the best color in rating, this is no possible, though I believe there are chances of a user earning a lot of positve karma without a rating color, but the former is not possible, else, even campaign managers will not value the best color rating that much, but will continue to only hire those with higher number of earned positive karma.

However, the opposite can happen. I just learned from Freemind on the local forum that there are several cases of people who have positive karma and yet have red. This makes me see more sense in this new system because if we go by karma alone we would not see this problem, especially campaign and bounty managers, who are recommended not  to hire these people.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2024, 04:42:57 PM »
Negative karma is very painful for anyone i think. It given very bad fillings to us. I also saw this kinds of notification last month. And i also very onerous to see this notification. We are working on Altcointalk To contribute something good. But sometimes we made some wrong.

Positive karma given for positive post and Negative karma Given for negative information. So we will try to creat positive activists. Then we will never get negative karma i think. But unfortunately when we saw notification then we were very unhappy it is also true.

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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2024, 06:40:51 PM »
  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
  • Have you ever gotten that negative Karma Notification when you least expect it? How did make you feel? Please be honest.
1. Nah, I don't think we should give negative karma to someone in vage, but you might give negative karma to someone who is spamming, or not making quality posts just posting to get some point or whatever the purpose would be. But at the first place we don't know who gave it so how can we take revenge. I guess that's one of the reasons, why admin have made these things hidden

2. I don't received any negative karma yet, although due to forum malfunctioning I did received a notification that all of my 40 karma have been deducted and I was like stunned but after judging the situation I realized its the forum issue. But it gave me goosebumps already even I did not opened the forum yet, I started to get flashbacks and trying to think what I would have done wrong.

PS: there is a possibility that someone wants to give you positive karma but instead due to some human error clicked on negative karma button, and there is confirmation option so it might be a possibility. I can understand how disturbing it might be, as we don't know what we did wrong, at last the ones who gave negative karma should mention it and also mention the reason why he/she did it.
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Re: How does a negative Karma Notification make you feel?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2024, 09:07:52 PM »
  • Is it right to give negative Karma as a way of showing disagreement of or in someone's opinion/comment?
No, this is not why karma was created, but surely people are going to abuse the karma system and hand it out to members they do not like or members that disagree with them. However, you do not have to retaliate because that would mean you joining in the abuse yourself.

As far as i know tha admin has a way of punishing members who engage in abuse of karma, so better to leave it to the admin and post freely, enjoy yourself in the forum and don't worry too much about what you can't control.
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