Karma 0 = your rank will go up

[Jokers]

After they make a mistake, they are then reprimanded by all the Modz and given -Karma but these members are confident and do things repeatedly with Spam or Plagiarism mistakes.

Warning and -karma is just a first stage. If someone doesn't understand what's wrong by being warned, then there are other options, including negative badges and up to ban on posting on the forum. Given that AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum doesn't mean we should be friendly with intruders.

[IyemRoker]

Warning and -karma is just a first stage. If someone doesn't understand what's wrong by being warned, then there are other options, including negative badges and up to ban on posting on the forum. Given that AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum doesn't mean we should be friendly with intruders.

Ah yes, that's right, I remember the negative badge which had red and black poles, maybe around 2020 and 2021 there were lots of members wearing that badge.
This brand is really annoying, they have been warned but they are forced to repeat the same mistake, this is clearly a violation of the rules made by the altcoinstalks forum.

Never mind making friends with intruders, I don't even want to see them.
This intruder behaved strangely and we, members who regularly follow the rules, felt uncomfortable seeing him.

[Power420]

After they make a mistake, they are then reprimanded by all the Modz and given -Karma but these members are confident and do things repeatedly with Spam or Plagiarism mistakes.

Warning and -karma is just a first stage. If someone doesn't understand what's wrong by being warned, then there are other options, including negative badges and up to ban on posting on the forum. Given that AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum doesn't mean we should be friendly with intruders.

The identity of a wise person depends on his post and tenure, if the user behaves badly or misbehaves with others, he is given negative (-) karma. Therefore, every member must behave in a friendly manner, so we will never tolerate injustice. 
If you live long enough with honesty, you will surely achieve something good in this forum. 
The victory of truth is assured.

[Mate2237]

After they make a mistake, they are then reprimanded by all the Modz and given -Karma but these members are confident and do things repeatedly with Spam or Plagiarism mistakes.

Warning and -karma is just a first stage. If someone doesn't understand what's wrong by being warned, then there are other options, including negative badges and up to ban on posting on the forum. Given that AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum doesn't mean we should be friendly with intruders.

The identity of a wise person depends on his post and tenure, if the user behaves badly or misbehaves with others, he is given negative (-) karma. Therefore, every member must behave in a friendly manner, so we will never tolerate injustice. 
If you live long enough with honesty, you will surely achieve something good in this forum. 
The victory of truth is assured.

I have read the Op and some comments and I understand the topical sentence or statement of the thread and one thing I will say is that a family of husband and wife also fight, and army barrack, people still fight therefore there is no community in the world is fight drama is free. And this community is not free from fight. Users must have disagreement but it is the ability for them to settle themselves amicably. So we should not expect 100% fight or quarrel free forum here. But we have to understand our differences. If because of the person mode of posting someone gives him or her a -Karma is not advisable because we have different understanding and we can give -Karma to a shit post and spamming poster. And all we have to do here is to understand our different characters and behaviors. And in most cases we have to wear thick skin.

[Freemind]

I have read the Op and some comments and I understand the topical sentence or statement of the thread and one thing I will say is that a family of husband and wife also fight, and army barrack, people still fight therefore there is no community in the world is fight drama is free. And this community is not free from fight. Users must have disagreement but it is the ability for them to settle themselves amicably. So we should not expect 100% fight or quarrel free forum here. But we have to understand our differences. If because of the person mode of posting someone gives him or her a -Karma is not advisable because we have different understanding and we can give -Karma to a shit post and spamming poster. And all we have to do here is to understand our different characters and behaviors. And in most cases we have to wear thick skin.

I agree 100%. The good thing about listening (reading) to others is what we can learn, and that is very positive, the idea of ​​linking karma with ranks was not at any time to do something similar to the merits of BTT. It was a "desperate" idea, so maybe some users could take care and improve their accounts. I know it was a very simple idea, but the number of users breaking the rules reached a point that overwhelmed the moderators.

[SamReomo]

the idea of ​​linking karma with ranks was not at any time to do something similar to the merits of BTT. It was a "desperate" idea, so maybe some users could take care and improve their accounts. I know it was a very simple idea, but the number of users breaking the rules reached a point that overwhelmed the moderators.

Now those uses are limited in number while good and active users are way more in numbers thus I believe the Karma system should get some kind of changes. I mean the users who actively make posts on this forum with good content will always get some karma but the ones who don't like someone's ideas or comments can send that user negative Karma without any proper explanation.

I know the Karma system isn't bad at all, it's more similar to like and dislike feature of the social media platforms and merits is something totally different than the Karma. But, I still believe that when things go well then making out changes on time is the way to go and that's why I think admin, moderators, presidents, and everyone should share their opinion about improving of Karma system so it can be a useful tool.

[Jokers]

I mean the users who actively make posts on this forum with good content will always get some karma but the ones who don't like someone's ideas or comments can send that user negative Karma without any proper explanation.

As long as you get much more +karma than -karma and you get -karma just occasionally (if all your posts are good), it's not the real problem, and karma system works good. Of course it is unpleasant to get -karma, I get some rarely and I don't like it also, but I get more +karma, so it is not a real problem to get rarely -karma.

The idea of limitation of -karma gives bad posters and rudes an opportunity to avoid the punishment from community. Karma is a tool for community, not for moderators (I have more heavy tools), not for admin (he has more heavy tools either), but for regular users. And taking this tool away just because it is not pleasant to get -karma once in several weeks or months? Do you like when all the topic if full of answers to the opening post or when there are some insults, etc?

[SamReomo]

As long as you get much more +karma than -karma and you get -karma just occasionally (if all your posts are good), it's not the real problem, and karma system works good. Of course it is unpleasant to get -karma, I get some rarely and I don't like it also, but I get more +karma, so it is not a real problem to get rarely -karma.

Yes, that's true when someone gets more +karma than -karma then that user should not worry a lot about it, but of course the online world is improving so I taught that why not this forum? I mean YouTube totally disabled dislike function from videos and now no one sees any dislikes on a video.

If I'm not wrong then I consider karma more as like and dislike thing instead of merit thing that we have on Bitcointalk. The good thing about Karma is that all members can send unlimited Karma without any restriction, but they'll have to wait 10 hours if they send a karma to someone, however during that 10 hours they can send more karma to other users.

Do you like when all the topic if full of answers to the opening post or when there are some insults, etc?

No, I personally don't like to see all posts of a topic as replies to the original topic because there won't be any conversations and arguments, plus sharing of opinions with those who make posts on that topic.

I really don't want to see the insults but if I'm not wrong then freedom of speech should be there and user don't get scared when they don't like something. Because if someone makes argument with a user even if his stance is correct, the counter party will give him a negative karma for that. Which to me isn't a justifiable thing, and such kind of -karma behavior should be stopped that's what I want.

[Jokers]

Because if someone makes argument with a user even if his stance is correct, the counter party will give him a negative karma for that. Which to me isn't a justifiable thing, and such kind of -karma behavior should be stopped that's what I want.

Before asking to remove one of your rights for the sake of safety, did you use all the options can be used on the forum? There is the Forum Court for the cases of karma abuse, so if someone will like to use karma as a weapon to fight with an opponent, he'll face with a punishment. Karma abuse is not allowed on the forum.

I guess you even didn't try to use the option of the Forum Court but anyway want to lose your right to regulate some things on the forum. Sadly.

[SamReomo]

Before asking to remove one of your rights for the sake of safety, did you use all the options can be used on the forum? There is the Forum Court for the cases of karma abuse, so if someone will like to use karma as a weapon to fight with an opponent, he'll face with a punishment. Karma abuse is not allowed on the forum.

That's a good reply, but how can someone know who's the one abusing karma? As long as I know then no one except admin knows that who's sending +karma and who is sending -karma and in such case how would a user be able to prove in the forum's court that he/she has received a negative karma from a particular user?

I respect the Karma policies of the forum and I believe it's a good thing to be present on the forum but since no karma logs are publicly available for free and that's why it could be very hard for someone to no that who's the one abusing karma for personal issues. I'm also sure that admin doesn't have enough free time to check out all those members who are sending negative karma.

[Jokers]

That's a good reply, but how can someone know who's the one abusing karma? As long as I know then no one except admin knows that who's sending +karma and who is sending -karma and in such case how would a user be able to prove in the forum's court that he/she has received a negative karma from a particular user?

I respect the Karma policies of the forum and I believe it's a good thing to be present on the forum but since no karma logs are publicly available for free and that's why it could be very hard for someone to no that who's the one abusing karma for personal issues. I'm also sure that admin doesn't have enough free time to check out all those members who are sending negative karma.

If you systematically get negative karma without serious reasons, if you get lots of -karma again and again with more or less okay posts, it can be karma abuse and a reason to go to the Court. Of course you can't know exactly, but as you can see karma abuses are caught and punished. And this case is not the only one caught these days.

[admin]

will implement in next change to the ranking system, soon

[Freemind]

will implement in next change to the ranking system, soon

What do my eyes see...? It seems that finally, after so long, during which I had even forgotten this idea, something is finally going to be done about it.

Before users ask again, no, it is not and will not be anything like the BTT merit system, but rather a preventive measure to try to avoid spam, LQP and more. The best way to understand the idea is to read the entire thread, that way you will understand everything much better.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new ranking system working.

[Thyplaymaker]

Because if someone makes argument with a user even if his stance is correct, the counter party will give him a negative karma for that. Which to me isn't a justifiable thing, and such kind of -karma behavior should be stopped that's what I want.

Before asking to remove one of your rights for the sake of safety, did you use all the options can be used on the forum? There is the Forum Court for the cases of karma abuse, so if someone will like to use karma as a weapon to fight with an opponent, he'll face with a punishment. Karma abuse is not allowed on the forum.

I guess you even didn't try to use the option of the Forum Court but anyway want to lose your right to regulate some things on the forum. Sadly.

this truly amazing, because when I migrated to this forum, I always have this thought what if I endup having someone that don't actually vibe my present this forum ( like a hater) that can fight me by given me some negative karma . But seeing this such thought has been cleared from my head now I can gently enjoy the beauty of this forum without such fear.

will implement in next change to the ranking system, soon

What do my eyes see...? It seems that finally, after so long, during which I had even forgotten this idea, something is finally going to be done about it.

Before users ask again, no, it is not and will not be anything like the BTT merit system, but rather a preventive measure to try to avoid spam, LQP and more. The best way to understand the idea is to read the entire thread, that way you will understand everything much better.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new ranking system working.

😄 well the idea is actually a bright one , would help in making this forum a better community .(or should I say even more better).

[Freemind]

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It's not about being afraid, we cannot live in fear. It's about talking, enjoying, sharing and whenever possible, earning some coins/tokens while we talk about what we like, cryptocurrencies. You shouldn't care if someone gives you negative karma, surely someone likes one of your threads/posts and you receive positive karma, anyway, that's how I see it.

I think this idea can help (maybe a lot or maybe a little) to avoid spam, LQP and useless posts, so that users think twice before posting garbage.