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Title: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 06, 2024, 01:28:44 AM
The crypto market has suffered many negative impacts when China has made tough decisions against crypto in recent years:
Every time there is negative information from China, the crypto community often worries because bans can cause the crypto market to lose investors and abundant cash flow from China. However, the crypto market continues to grow and is not dependent on any country. Even when China banned Bitcoin mining, miners came to the United States and helped the United States become the leading country in mining power, accounting for 35.4% of the hash rate, nearly double the second place, Kazakhstan, with 18.1%[2].

Besides, China's relationship with cryptocurrency is more nuanced than the simple "banned" label often applied by Western media. While authorities cracked down on several aspects, individual ownership and peer-to-peer trading remain largely untouched[3].

There are many reasons for this problem, I think that by pushing crypto into the gray area, China might keep crypto at arm's length while exploring blockchain tech and central bank digital currencies e-CNY from 2019: 120 million wallets, 26 cities serving as test beds and 5.6 million merchants registered to use the currency national, total transactions had reached 950 million with a cumulative value of 1.8 trillion yuan (US$249.9 billion) by the end of June 2023[4].

Recently, Hong Kong, which is considered a territory strongly influenced by China, has opened its doors to crypto[5]. This may be an experiment with crypto that China wants to conduct before opening up and adopting crypto in the mainland.

I personally believe that China is wise enough to realize the potential of crypto for the development of the economy, at least regarding the lucrative crypto tax source for the national budget. They are just developing their own CBDC and conducting small-scale testing in Hong Kong before opening up to crypto throughout the territory. If this happens, a huge amount of capital from Chinese investors could flow into the crypto market and create strong growth. I hope that this comes in 2025 and we have an extremely strong bullrun and take BTC to $100K.

What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?

[1] China Crypto Bans: A Complete History (https://www.coindesk.com/learn/china-crypto-bans-a-complete-history/)
[2] 60+ Bitcoin Mining and Energy Consumption Statistics For 2024 You Need to Know (https://www.techopedia.com/bitcoin-mining-and-energy-statistics)
[3] China Never Completely Banned Crypto (https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2024/02/05/china-never-completely-banned-crypto/)
[4] What’s the state of China’s digital yuan in 2023? (https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3237317/whats-state-chinas-digital-yuan-2023)
[5]  As the US cracks down on crypto, Hong Kong extends a warm welcome (https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/29/hong-kong-china-crypto-east-rises/)
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: gunhell16 on February 06, 2024, 05:31:23 AM
In my personal opinion, from the very start, China doesn't hate Bitcoin or cryptocurrency; it's just their strategy to pretend they don't like them. Yes, they are banning, but do we know that if they can do that, there will be a downfall in the crypto market, and when that happens, they can secretly invest potential cryptos in the market and Bitcoin a huge amount in them?

Especially with the bull run approaching again, it is not surprising that they will suddenly be open to Bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
After this situation in the market, the value of Bitcoin is still low, which is still an opportunity for us to buy as if there is a discount on Bitcoin. Of course, if you know for sure that you will get money, then for sure you will welcome Bitcoin or crypto because you are sure and you see that there is a 100% good return on the capital that will be used here.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 06, 2024, 10:43:04 AM
What could China be planning with crypto in the future?
We do not care. Chinese had proven that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies can not be banned completely in a way that people in a country will not be able to use it anymore.

China banned bitcoin more than what you mentioned in the OP. The last that plummeted bitcoin price below $30000 and that also resulted to mining hashrates of bitcoin to fall to zero in China was not effective. China now has the second largest bitcoin mining hashrates and also later bitcoin is said to be a legal property in China but people can not just use it as a currency but you can buy and own it, or sell it.

Since all the time in the past, China continued to ban bitcoin but bitcoin in long term continue to increase in price and value.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Uruhara on February 06, 2024, 11:07:57 AM
What we have to remember is that China is the country that is most clever in economic or financial strategy. So I am sure that China will one day have a positive impact on crypto assets. It's just that they definitely make strict regulations about this. Like Japan, which also applies quite strict regulations and even crypto taxes there are very large. But I'm sure China will make regulations more accessible. But they won't rush into getting involved. It's just that their current direction is starting to become more crypto-friendly.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: TomPluz on February 06, 2024, 11:51:45 AM


One of the biggest reasons why China really mattered a lot in the cryptocurrency and mining industries is because we know that before the eventual ban in 2021 the crypto market in China is really huge, mostly due to the fact that it got billion of people in there and even if just 10% of them will be into crypto that is really an immense market to begin with and can probably be the biggest in the world. Then it was a sad day when the government decided to have nothing to do anymore with crypto and mining, sending the business to other countries and some players hiding their activities using stealth technologies in order not to be caught by the minions of Chinese government. I could not imagine how big is the crypto market if China decided to just regulate the whole thing and not pushed a ban blanket for the general population. With this scenario, what if China all of a sudden announce that it is opening the China market for crypto albeit in a very strict regulatory environment? Of course, there can be a bull run which we have never seen before, even much better than all of the ETFs and halving events combined. Of course, this is just prediction and no one needs to believe on me.



Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Zed0X on February 06, 2024, 12:14:33 PM
I don't think Hong Kong is an experiment for the mainland before they openly welcome cryptocurrencies. It's intended to be the only place for crypto just like how gambling is only allowed in Macau. Their Government wanted those industries to be contained in one specific area.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 06, 2024, 01:22:20 PM
I don't think Hong Kong is an experiment for the mainland before they openly welcome cryptocurrencies. It's intended to be the only place for crypto just like how gambling is only allowed in Macau. Their Government wanted those industries to be contained in one specific area.
I can also see in that perspective that what they are doing is an experimental. But this may also be a strategy for China to have a much more control in monitoring and analysing it's potential without affecting the entire country if something bad will happen.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Evgenklm on February 07, 2024, 04:39:24 PM
I feel like China is playing a complex game with cryptocurrencies. They aim to benefit from blockchain technology but at the same time want to maintain control over the financial sphere. Their strategy involves implementing the digital yuan and conducting tests, but they also impose strict bans on cryptocurrency operations. In the future, they will likely continue to balance between researching and regulating cryptocurrencies to minimize risks and maximize the potential of blockchain technology for their economy.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on February 07, 2024, 06:46:28 PM
At the moment I think China doesn't like bitcoin at all as it is now but the future is unknown, maybe in the future they will accept it for what it is because the popularity of bitcoin is increasing day by day i.e. Along with the increase in the value of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is ruling the world and it is a digital currency or something that doesn't look good, but it has a huge value that people can't see. It is known that it can make you a better future overnight, if with this thought, even if it is published in the channel, it will be very beneficial for the future generation,.

if only China statement You will see that Bitcoin price will be more higher. Because we see always that it's pump and dumping is according to news. I think it will be best for future if we bought it from today same as expected.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 07, 2024, 09:51:16 PM
What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?

Well, it doesn't really matter to be because despite all the cases with China and Bitcoin or crypto entirely it doesn't cause the technology to stop growing. It can cause a temporary market downturn but will not stop Bitcoin from working. If china is against Bitcoin so harshly, then there are still other countries that promots Bitcoin, like my country. Although I was not very well knowledgeable about Bitcoin back in 2019 but I remember correctly that the COVID-19 cause a serious downturn in the crypto market. The kind of effect the pandemic cause in the market can not be pulled by China so, I don't really think there is any thing I care much about. It's still citizens there that will get affected by it.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Vx1 on February 07, 2024, 10:44:49 PM
China is a large country that has great influence on the world, every policy carried out by this country always gets great attention from other countries. China is also a country that has a good economic market strategy, so this makes China a country that has fast growth.  If China supports cryptocurrency in the future, of course this will be good news and this will definitely lead to an increase in cryptocurrency from all aspects.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: trendcoin on February 07, 2024, 11:03:37 PM
China has great potential because of its population. If this potential flows back into cryptocurrencies, we can undoubtedly witness good developments. However, before China banned cryptocurrencies, we used to make similar comments about some Chinese projects. One of them was NEO. But even before China banned cryptocurrencies, NEO collapsed in terms of price. I don't remember exactly now, but it was something like, if one out of every hundred Chinese people bought one NEO, the price of NEO would be 1000 dollars. :) In short, some calculations on paper may not correspond in real life. Greetings to China and the Chinese people, and to the rest of the people of the world... :)
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: therozaq on February 08, 2024, 10:49:43 AM
China has great potential because of its population. If this potential flows back into cryptocurrencies, we can undoubtedly witness good developments. However, before China banned cryptocurrencies, we used to make similar comments about some Chinese projects. One of them was NEO. But even before China banned cryptocurrencies, NEO collapsed in terms of price. I don't remember exactly now, but it was something like, if one out of every hundred Chinese people bought one NEO, the price of NEO would be 1000 dollars. :) In short, some calculations on paper may not correspond in real life. Greetings to China and the Chinese people, and to the rest of the people of the world... :)

China is one of the biggest of economic, china has big population and we all know almost all of countries, there is Chinese people. I confuse why china government didn't allow crypto currency, If the china government allow and support crypto , I think bitcoin price will soar. Crypto will have good future. But let's see .. Is the china government will allow or stick with the opinion.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gurujebs on February 08, 2024, 11:21:46 AM
What we have to remember is that China is the country that is most clever in economic or financial strategy. So I am sure that China will one day have a positive impact on crypto assets. It's just that they definitely make strict regulations about this. Like Japan, which also applies quite strict regulations and even crypto taxes there are very large. But I'm sure China will make regulations more accessible. But they won't rush into getting involved. It's just that their current direction is starting to become more crypto-friendly.

The high time we focus on making crypto friendly to other countries, the better and it will make bitcoin become scarce by the time they want to come back. By population, they are one of the biggest and by economy they control more margin of the world economy and if they one day left legalized crypto, it will help but come to think of it, this guys will not give any asylum to crypto because the US that was supposed to be strict are even friendly than China.

Before they use to be the hub of bitcoin mining until everything change in 2021 when they finally gave final ban and you see what this country does is very bad. They don't ban bitcoin when there is less noise, it's always when the price is high they ban crypto just for people to lose their profits and not have peace of mind, my mind is telling them to stay and not come close to bitcoin adoption.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Zed0X on February 08, 2024, 01:48:24 PM
I feel like China is playing a complex game with cryptocurrencies. They aim to benefit from blockchain technology but at the same time want to maintain control over the financial sphere. Their strategy involves implementing the digital yuan and conducting tests, but they also impose strict bans on cryptocurrency operations. In the future, they will likely continue to balance between researching and regulating cryptocurrencies to minimize risks and maximize the potential of blockchain technology for their economy.
Testing out CBDCs doesn't mean they are playing with crypto. Similar to what I said about the Russian Digital Ruble, China probably do not consider the Digital Yuan and other CBDCs as cryptocurrency even if they are using the same technology (blockchain).

Unless there is a change in leadership, I think the ban is final.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gyrgen on February 08, 2024, 10:20:16 PM
In the context of the economic crisis and its possible intensification, something tells me that China will have no time for cryptocurrency. Moreover, it will not ensure economic growth, it will ensure the growth of the financial sector, and this is not the same thing.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 09, 2024, 12:23:42 PM
In the context of the economic crisis and its possible intensification, something tells me that China will have no time for cryptocurrency. Moreover, it will not ensure economic growth, it will ensure the growth of the financial sector, and this is not the same thing.
The financial sector development is different from the economy development, but they are directly proportional. If the financial sector is becoming more developed to a significant level, this will have positive effect on the economy as the economy will also becoming more developed. Also there are difference between economy growth and development.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: legend45 on February 09, 2024, 04:21:43 PM
We know that China is a big country, with a large population.  But we don't know yet what percentage of its citizens like crypto.  If the Chinese government allows and accepts crypto, this could also bring positive things to crypto.  But it may have no effect on crypto.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 09, 2024, 06:35:37 PM
      -   In 2017, we know that China made different cryptocurrency exchanges and ICO campaigns during these times, according to my research, and in 2021, there was a so-called crackdown on mining, which had a strong impact on the crypto market. If we look at these times, China has a big impact when they do something negative or positive in the cryptocurrency industry.

In 2023, the country of Hong Kong took a good step in that they became open to cryptocurrency exchanges, which is a sign that the country of China will be positive about cryptocurrency again, and this year we will probably feel the step that the country of China will take positively.

Source: https://www.theblock.co/post/253777/china-crypto-hong-kong-otc-chainalysis
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gyrgen on February 09, 2024, 09:50:17 PM
In the context of the economic crisis and its possible intensification, something tells me that China will have no time for cryptocurrency. Moreover, it will not ensure economic growth, it will ensure the growth of the financial sector, and this is not the same thing.
The financial sector development is different from the economy development, but they are directly proportional. If the financial sector is becoming more developed to a significant level, this will have positive effect on the economy as the economy will also becoming more developed. Also there are difference between economy growth and development.
I don’t agree, the only thing they have in common is the word “economy”. Money earned in the financial sector is usually invested back.The financial sector can easily show growth while the real sector shows a decline. And the real sector primarily generates added value, which leads to the growth of the country's economy and not vice versa.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: sampoerna on February 09, 2024, 10:45:30 PM
This is good news,  of course, no matter how long this will last. It could be that suddenly the country makes new regulations again. Because there will always be surprises and sudden changes here. Whatever the purpose, sometimes news related to crypto and this country is quite inspiring. but it might not be that big if it is related to this positive news. There are several other factors why Bitcoin will experience a strong bullrun this season, because it started with the SEC approval yesterday and there will definitely be various positive trends in the future. The halving will also be taking place soon so we are prepared to at least start the bull run in a much better way.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: DaNNy001 on February 09, 2024, 10:58:36 PM
In my personal opinion, from the very start, China doesn't hate Bitcoin or cryptocurrency; it's just their strategy to pretend they don't like them. Yes, they are banning, but do we know that if they can do that, there will be a downfall in the crypto market, and when that happens, they can secretly invest potential cryptos in the market and Bitcoin a huge amount in them?

Hmm that's some interesting thought there , although am not too certain about china capability of doing this but am very certain that this is the same politics that most coin owners do with their coins that earn them huge profits leaving the masses misguided and confuse by the sudden dump.

But with the case of china, I can't really tell the reason for their hatred towards Bitcoin but if we are to look at it from a general angle then we will find out that it might all be some part of a scheme to actually evaluate huge profits like you stated because if massive organisation or even a nation can have investments on Bitcoin then what stops them being very technologically advanced too @ china.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Captain Corporate on February 09, 2024, 11:02:49 PM
I don't think that China would "accept" crypto. They are already dealing with some of the coins and tokens, like EOS was a huge thing there for example, they are just putting harsh regulations to Bitcoin that's it. Last I remember you could still have bitcoin in your wallet and that wasn't disallowed or illegal, it was illegal to mine it as far as I remember though. So there are some stuff you can do with it and can't do with it. All in all, in the end its going to be fine and even Chinese will realize that they can do whatever they want without getting caught and they could just simply deal with the privacy a bit more carefully.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: doc on February 10, 2024, 01:44:27 AM

I don't think that China would "accept" crypto. They are already dealing with some of the coins and tokens, like EOS was a huge thing there for example, they are just putting harsh regulations to Bitcoin that's it. Last I remember you could still have bitcoin in your wallet and that wasn't disallowed or illegal, it was illegal to mine it as far as I remember though. So there are some stuff you can do with it and can't do with it. All in all, in the end its going to be fine and even Chinese will realize that they can do whatever they want without getting caught and they could just simply deal with the privacy a bit more carefully.


agree with you, I think Chinese will allow or not, it's not problem. Becaus If we have bitcoin in our wallet, the government didn't know. It's really privacy.
Chinese ban mining, but their citizens can invest in crypto, no need for permission from the government.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 15, 2024, 10:49:45 PM
I don't think that China would "accept" crypto. They are already dealing with some of the coins and tokens, like EOS was a huge thing there for example, they are just putting harsh regulations to Bitcoin that's it. Last I remember you could still have bitcoin in your wallet and that wasn't disallowed or illegal, it was illegal to mine it as far as I remember though. So there are some stuff you can do with it and can't do with it. All in all, in the end its going to be fine and even Chinese will realize that they can do whatever they want without getting caught and they could just simply deal with the privacy a bit more carefully.
China only bans crypto, not blockchain. Even the Chinese community is very enthusiastic about learning and finding ways to apply blockchain technology. It is quite puzzling that EOS, the dinosaur blockchain and once abandoned by BlockOne, is popular in China and is considered the best blockchain in the world.

The China Centre for Information Industry Development (CCID) has published another global ranking of public blockchains. Based on a technical assessment, the EOS network was named the best[1].

(https://thecryptobasic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/eos-number-1.jpg.webp)

Chinese people can still own crypto as an asset class, but things are not deployed as freely as in Europe or the United States. Global investors will still own and trade our own crypto, the crypto market does not depend on China but I hope that China will soon open up or give a clear legal framework for crypto, then the crypto market will have received huge new capital from crypto fans in China.

The report published on Thursday revealed that 18% of investors based in China allocated funds ranging from $50,000 to $100,000, while an additional 19% invested amounts between $100,000 and $500,000 in cryptoassets[2].

[1] China Centre for Information Industry Development (CCID) Ranked EOS #1 Blockchain (2021) (https://thecryptobasic.com/2021/10/29/china-centre-for-information-industry-development-ccid-ranked-eos-1-blockchain)
[2] Crypto investors still active in China, many allocating over $100k: Bitget (2023) (https://blockworks.co/news/crypto-investors-china-bitget-study)
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: I-Bit on February 15, 2024, 11:54:06 PM
In the context of the economic crisis and its possible intensification, something tells me that China will have no time for cryptocurrency. Moreover, it will not ensure economic growth, it will ensure the growth of the financial sector, and this is not the same thing.
Why China has no time? They have time but they are playing a secret influence.
When China supports crypto, I'm sure there will be economic growth around the countries in the world. We know that China has a big role in many sectors of our life. The supports from China will be always crucial. But it doesn't determine the future of crypto.

Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: vegasus on February 15, 2024, 11:56:27 PM
There must be more good news and other fundamental aspects to make Bitcoin strong bull. Because of course there will be big FUD again as usual, so there needs to be more big news to be able to overcome it. And in fact this has happened quite often. China is also one of them, whether this will be permanent or only temporary, but China is certainly preparing something that might be another surprise in the future. So, make it a habit to stay calm and strong when hearing both good news and bad news (FUD). because these two things cannot be separated from crypto. China, the US, Russia, always have lots of things that make the crypto world excited again every year.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 16, 2024, 03:40:54 AM
Why China has no time? They have time but they are playing a secret influence.
When China supports crypto, I'm sure there will be economic growth around the countries in the world. We know that China has a big role in many sectors of our life. The supports from China will be always crucial. But it doesn't determine the future of crypto.
Yeah like as you said, the economic conditions in China are very good, and the technological developments there are very fast and extraordinary, so that when Chinese people start using cryptocurrency as one of their legal currencies, it will have a good impact on cryptocurrency price movements. Yes, all you need is a lot of patience, because the process of doing that is not easy.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: therozaq on February 16, 2024, 03:50:50 AM

Yeah like as you said, the economic conditions in China are very good, and the technological developments there are very fast and extraordinary, so that when Chinese people start using cryptocurrency as one of their legal currencies, it will have a good impact on cryptocurrency price movements. Yes, all you need is a lot of patience, because the process of doing that is not easy.


The Chinese government should have considerations that support crypto, because other countries have started to accept and allow crypto.  China, as a large country whose economic conditions are among the top three in the world, if it allows and adopts crypto, it will have a positive impact on crypto.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 16, 2024, 05:10:58 AM

Recently, Hong Kong, which is considered a territory strongly influenced by China, has opened its doors to crypto[5]. This may be an experiment with crypto that China wants to conduct before opening up and adopting crypto in the mainland.

Hongkong decision will not stand for the whole china and I do believe is that if Hongkong adopts crypto
this will bring big effect in the market but that does not mean we will be expecting too much not unless Chinese government as whole will stand with it.
but this is best for everyone to assume that if this will happen then its time to gain some bucks.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 16, 2024, 05:59:00 AM
China may have recently begun to realize the importance of cryptocurrencies for the national economy, whether in terms of taxes or huge investments that could stimulate the Chinese market.

In the past, China made more than one mistake regarding cryptocurrencies when it banned cryptocurrencies and then banned mining, and the result was that the majority of them were directed towards other countries, especially the United States.

Today, the United States is committing almost the same mistakes through the strict regulatory laws it imposes on crypto companies, causing the departure of many of them. I expect that China wants to exploit the opportunity and correct its mistakes by attracting these companies to an open region such as Hong Kong, which has become part of the Chinese mainland.

Of course, if China continues to take this friendly approach towards cryptocurrencies, it will have a big role in the prosperity of the Chinese economy and the cryptocurrency market.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: LogitechMouse on February 16, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
China is acting like the "Inverse Cramer" where investors are investing opposite to what Jim Cramer is recommending.
This time, investors are acting differently when it comes to China.

When China is doing the opposite to cryptocurrency, it often positively impacts the market. I mean remember China banning ICOs in 2017. At that time, the prices of cryptocurrencies went up significantly, and we saw the market entering a bull run.

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Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
No, and they will never welcome crypto in their country.

The CCP doesn't want something that they don't have control over. I still remember the time when the term "Digital Yuan" became popular because the Chinese Government wanted to digitalize their currency to fight cryptocurrency hence, this concept was created. Well, I'm hoping that they will at least not ban their people to use cryptocurrencies in their country, but it isn't surprising that the CCP is imposing bans against it because they can't control it.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on February 16, 2024, 06:02:54 PM
China has announced several bans on cryptocurrencies long ago and managed to create quite a negative impact on the market. From 2013 to 2021, China announced a massive ban on all exchanges and transactions, including Bitcoin transactions, several times, although each time the price of Bitcoin began to fall sharply, but currently China's negative or positive actions may not have much impact on the Bitcoin market, or even last. no So for now, no matter how positive China looks on Bitcoin, these announcements will not have any impact on Bitcoin from my point of view.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: armanda90 on February 16, 2024, 06:42:19 PM
China has announced several bans on cryptocurrencies long ago and managed to create quite a negative impact on the market. From 2013 to 2021, China announced a massive ban on all exchanges and transactions, including Bitcoin transactions, several times, although each time the price of Bitcoin began to fall sharply, but currently China's negative or positive actions may not have much impact on the Bitcoin market, or even last. no So for now, no matter how positive China looks on Bitcoin, these announcements will not have any impact on Bitcoin from my point of view.
I can't fully believing yet with China has plan for making bitcoin as legal currency transaction, they have banned bitcoin several time and since China banned announced bitcoin dropped drastically although always success recovery more higher price than before after banned announcement.
I don't think necessary with China have to make bitcoin as legal currency transaction because without China bitcoin keep strong and success recovery until raise higher price, just make bad speculation with China has not consistency when making bitcoin legal some time they will announce bitcoin banned as legal transaction.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Carbitcoin on February 16, 2024, 07:35:46 PM
China has announced several bans on cryptocurrencies long ago and managed to create quite a negative impact on the market. From 2013 to 2021, China announced a massive ban on all exchanges and transactions, including Bitcoin transactions, several times, although each time the price of Bitcoin began to fall sharply, but currently China's negative or positive actions may not have much impact on the Bitcoin market, or even last. no So for now, no matter how positive China looks on Bitcoin, these announcements will not have any impact on Bitcoin from my point of view.
I can't fully believing yet with China has plan for making bitcoin as legal currency transaction, they have banned bitcoin several time and since China banned announced bitcoin dropped drastically although always success recovery more higher price than before after banned announcement.
I don't think necessary with China have to make bitcoin as legal currency transaction because without China bitcoin keep strong and success recovery until raise higher price, just make bad speculation with China has not consistency when making bitcoin legal some time they will announce bitcoin banned as legal transaction.
If China works with cryptocurrency, it will promote a national cryptocurrency and not Bitcoin. And there will be little transparency in this process. In any case, all totalitarian states suffer from similar weaknesses.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Trongduy on February 22, 2024, 12:23:48 PM
China has announced several bans on cryptocurrencies long ago and managed to create quite a negative impact on the market. From 2013 to 2021, China announced a massive ban on all exchanges and transactions, including Bitcoin transactions, several times, although each time the price of Bitcoin began to fall sharply, but currently China's negative or positive actions may not have much impact on the Bitcoin market, or even last. no So for now, no matter how positive China looks on Bitcoin, these announcements will not have any impact on Bitcoin from my point of view.
I think China is looking to take advantage of the time to create their own digital currency, preventing the invasion of crypto that could weaken the power to manipulate domestic finance. Now they are testing in Hong Kong. If crypto is good and can be managed, it will accept and collect taxes on the mainland. On the contrary, if it's not good, it's okay to let Hong Kong continue testing for a few more years and then leave.

If China opens its doors to crypto, money from the rich will pour into crypto, and the market with more money will have more power to grow.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 22, 2024, 02:31:29 PM
China as we all know has a strong market force coupled with the fact that they have a population running into billions. Before the ban of Crypto currency in China, the Crypto market was really booming as the Chinese were fully adopting Bitcoin and other Crypto in full scale which really made the market growth increasing on a steady speed not until the Chinese government banned Bitcoin and crypto  which drastically affected the Crypto market causing panic and sell off.
There is this thing I have realised about the Chinese market, no matter how small a project is, if the Chinese influence enters, there is always a surge in demand for it and definitely  the product will have it's way into the global market and just a little percentage of the Chinese population alone could make it  be at the top of demand in the consumers priority list.
Nevertheless, I believe the Chinese government are currently conducting a research on Crypto currency via their neighbour  as a case study because there is every possibility that the outcome of the research could trigger them to lift their ban on crypto currency but however, let us watch and see as things unveils itself.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: gunhell16 on February 22, 2024, 03:52:31 PM
China as we all know has a strong market force coupled with the fact that they have a population running into billions. Before the ban of Crypto currency in China, the Crypto market was really booming as the Chinese were fully adopting Bitcoin and other Crypto in full scale which really made the market growth increasing on a steady speed not until the Chinese government banned Bitcoin and crypto  which drastically affected the Crypto market causing panic and sell off.
There is this thing I have realised about the Chinese market, no matter how small a project is, if the Chinese influence enters, there is always a surge in demand for it and definitely  the product will have it's way into the global market and just a little percentage of the Chinese population alone could make it  be at the top of demand in the consumers priority list.
Nevertheless, I believe the Chinese government are currently conducting a research on Crypto currency via their neighbour  as a case study because there is every possibility that the outcome of the research could trigger them to lift a their ban on crypto currency but however, let no is watch as things unveils itself.

That's what other countries that are negative about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency always do: when they see that there will be a good trend in Bitcoin, like the upcoming halving, the wind suddenly changes in reality. Of course, they know that they can make a profit from what they do.

Observe that after the bull season and entering the bear market again, a country like China will suddenly turn negative. How many times have they done that? They do the same in other countries, but there are others who are open to bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 22, 2024, 04:13:07 PM
China as we all know has a strong market force coupled with the fact that they have a population running into billions. Before the ban of Crypto currency in China, the Crypto market was really booming as the Chinese were fully adopting Bitcoin and other Crypto in full scale which really made the market growth increasing on a steady speed not until the Chinese government banned Bitcoin and crypto  which drastically affected the Crypto market causing panic and sell off.
There is this thing I have realised about the Chinese market, no matter how small a project is, if the Chinese influence enters, there is always a surge in demand for it and definitely  the product will have it's way into the global market and just a little percentage of the Chinese population alone could make it  be at the top of demand in the consumers priority list.
Nevertheless, I believe the Chinese government are currently conducting a research on Crypto currency via their neighbour  as a case study because there is every possibility that the outcome of the research could trigger them to lift a their ban on crypto currency but however, let no is watch as things unveils itself.

That's what other countries that are negative about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency always do: when they see that there will be a good trend in Bitcoin, like the upcoming halving, the wind suddenly changes in reality. Of course, they know that they can make a profit from what they do.

Observe that after the bull season and entering the bear market again, a country like China will suddenly turn negative. How many times have they done that? They do the same in other countries, but there are others who are open to bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

Actually, I believe this is amongst the strategy most government and whales use to manipulate the market and they acquire crypto through proxy after they must have succeeded in causing a decline in market demand leading to drop in price so that they could have their bags filled up while they plan for another market manipulation to pump the price again so they could sell to make huge profit. These are what the folks in the Crypto market do not understand. Until the rest of the blockchain community understands this trick used by both the government and whales, they would keep falling for them and losing their capitals and investment in a haste to escape a price decline orchestrated by some cartels in the industry.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Baofeng on February 24, 2024, 12:21:32 AM
China has announced several bans on cryptocurrencies long ago and managed to create quite a negative impact on the market. From 2013 to 2021, China announced a massive ban on all exchanges and transactions, including Bitcoin transactions, several times, although each time the price of Bitcoin began to fall sharply, but currently China's negative or positive actions may not have much impact on the Bitcoin market, or even last. no So for now, no matter how positive China looks on Bitcoin, these announcements will not have any impact on Bitcoin from my point of view.
I can't fully believing yet with China has plan for making bitcoin as legal currency transaction, they have banned bitcoin several time and since China banned announced bitcoin dropped drastically although always success recovery more higher price than before after banned announcement.
I don't think necessary with China have to make bitcoin as legal currency transaction because without China bitcoin keep strong and success recovery until raise higher price, just make bad speculation with China has not consistency when making bitcoin legal some time they will announce bitcoin banned as legal transaction.

First it was Russia, like in 2018-2021 wherein you will like every day hear positive news about crypto and bitcoin and that they will adopt it. But then the next day, someone from the government will contradict their initial statement. And that's why everyone says that we should take everything with a bag of salt any announcement coming from Russia.

Same with China, as I have said previously, the banning has something to do with crypto giving the Chinese more financial power and that they don't want that to happen as they will lose control. And then there is capital flight as well, they want to keep everything inside. Chinese people investing, trading, mining crypto will lead this.

With that, I don't see China soon welcome crypto again, for me it's a dead end already.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 24, 2024, 03:42:48 PM
       -   When bitcoin reached 69k$ ATH at the time of 2021, did China participate at this time? I just thought I should have said it. Because I also can't say that the country of China will boost everything in bitcoin the day it enters the bull run.

I can even say that China can only add to the impact of holding a huge amount of bitcoin, but not in a way that will be the main reason for the day of the bull run itself, whether it happens this year or next year.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 24, 2024, 04:05:51 PM
To be honest with you all, I personally have come to the point where I think I no longer care what China does with crypto currency, for the fact that crypto have continued to grow even after several of their bans shows how irrelevant their opinion or stand on crypto currency is and will always be.

With China adopting crypto or not, crypto currency will continue to grow, and whether they open their doors fully to crypto in 2025 or not, bitcoin will reach $100,000 and above in this coming bull run certainly, I am not guessing this, I know this based on facts on ground.

So, China can go ahead and do whatever they want with crypto, if they decide to adopt it, it's their gain, if they continue to ban it, it's their loss, which ever decision they choose, crypto will continue to exist and will continue to grow - this is the most important thing.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: legend45 on February 24, 2024, 04:16:13 PM
       -   When bitcoin reached 69k$ ATH at the time of 2021, did China participate at this time? I just thought I should have said it. Because I also can't say that the country of China will boost everything in bitcoin the day it enters the bull run.

I can even say that China can only add to the impact of holding a huge amount of bitcoin, but not in a way that will be the main reason for the day of the bull run itself, whether it happens this year or next year.

I agree with you, like China only has a small influence on the crypto market but it is not the cause of the bullrun, even now the Chinese government has not allowed bitcoin but the price of bitcoin has risen high, touching $52K before the halving. So, don't associate everything with China. if it's currently connected to a bitcoin ETF, I agree
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on February 24, 2024, 04:23:15 PM
Yeah that's right. I remember that when China announce to ban crypto there is a sudden dump of all cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin. If I'm not wrong the prices went down more than -30% which can really gives us anxiety. After that, I heard a news from the trading group I joined that there are people who ended their lives because of that massive dump. You know when you are trading futures you will encounter more loses than spot investors because of leveraging. Because of that we understand how big the influence of China to crypto. So I believe that when the China decide to unbanned crypto, there will be a positive impact to the price of cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: elbans89 on February 28, 2024, 04:56:36 AM
Yeah that's right. I remember that when China announce to ban crypto there is a sudden dump of all cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin. If I'm not wrong the prices went down more than -30% which can really gives us anxiety. After that, I heard a news from the trading group I joined that there are people who ended their lives because of that massive dump. You know when you are trading futures you will encounter more loses than spot investors because of leveraging. Because of that we understand how big the influence of China to crypto. So I believe that when the China decide to unbanned crypto, there will be a positive impact to the price of cryptocurrencies.

If China cancels the crypto ban it will definitely have an impact on crypto prices, because we know China is one of the biggest economics.  But until now China has not allowed crypto, even the Chinese coin NEO has not had any significant development.
 You share sad story, when China banned crypto at the past.  Hopefully China will have a good policy to allow crypto.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: target on February 28, 2024, 05:51:40 AM
I don't think Hong Kong is an experiment for the mainland before they openly welcome cryptocurrencies. It's intended to be the only place for crypto just like how gambling is only allowed in Macau. Their Government wanted those industries to be contained in one specific area.
I can also see in that perspective that what they are doing is an experimental. But this may also be a strategy for China to have a much more control in monitoring and analysing it's potential without affecting the entire country if something bad will happen.

It does mean that Hongkong will be the center of crypto in China.  But crypto trading elsewhere in China is illegal?

From what I heard, only the financial institutions are not allowed to invest in crypto but Chinese citizen are all allowed to. Not sure when this started, only those influencers are the sources of this info.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: DrBeer on February 28, 2024, 10:24:08 AM
The problem with the topic is what's described here.... an unrealistic prognosis. In today's China, with its new vector chosen by the leading party - decentralization, anonymity and freedoms - this is something that is clearly not only not going to be supported, but is likely to be "persona non grata" in China's financial system and outlawed for Chinese citizens. Hong Kong and Macao are completely different objects of the Chinese economy, as connectors to the Western world, and they will probably retain some freedoms, because without it, interaction with the Western world is impossible.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gurujebs on February 28, 2024, 11:33:57 AM
If I see any country legalize bitcoin or cryptocurrency, then I fear that Bitcoin top is in and I will start selling because adoption should come at worst moment of a technology and not when it's ripe for people. Even if China says they are going to legalize and welcome crypto, it will only be because of reelection and just like the way Trump is doing right now just to make sure he get into the office as the new president of the united state of America.

However, if they are doing it strictly because of real adoption then we should expect to see high regulations coming from the government which maybe favorable and not favorable for some people particularly places where it can favour the government.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bounceback on February 28, 2024, 11:51:05 AM
If China cancels the crypto ban it will definitely have an impact on crypto prices, because we know China is one of the biggest economics.  But until now China has not allowed crypto, even the Chinese coin NEO has not had any significant development.
 You share sad story, when China banned crypto at the past.  Hopefully China will have a good policy to allow crypto.
Can't fully believing with China withdraw their regulation banned crypto as currency transaction or commodity assets, they had did many time for making bitcoin and altcoin as illegal transaction and not easily for accepting the reason of China government want to make bitcoin back to legal.
In the past, China banned bitcoin several time and all mining activities not allowed there until right now, actually China become most country with large of cryptocurrency transaction than other country but get difficult to make bitcoin as legal currency transaction.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: examplens on February 28, 2024, 01:13:49 PM
The crypto market has suffered many negative impacts when China has made tough decisions against crypto in recent years:
  • 2013: China bans banks from crypto transactions
  • 2017: China bans crypto initial coin offerings
  • 2019: Attention turns to bitcoin mining
  • 2020: Enforcement ramps up
  • 2021: China bans crypto trading and mining[1]


Have you tried to investigate how many times China announced the regulation of crypto and its acceptance? There were such news as well as these negative ones.

Everyone is quite tired of the speculations of the Chinese state, and one gets the impression that it was just part of the price manipulation to get extra profit out of it. It's good this way and maybe it's better without their meddling in the Bitcoin thing.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 29, 2024, 12:41:16 PM
Have you tried to investigate how many times China announced the regulation of crypto and its acceptance? There were such news as well as these negative ones.

Everyone is quite tired of the speculations of the Chinese state, and one gets the impression that it was just part of the price manipulation to get extra profit out of it. It's good this way and maybe it's better without their meddling in the Bitcoin thing.
There will always be good news and bad news about cryptocurrency, and the most important thing is to carefully consider how this news circulates because there is also a purpose for this news to circulate because it wants to trigger traders to panic and sell their assets at cheap prices.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gurujebs on February 29, 2024, 06:35:51 PM
There will always be good news and bad news about cryptocurrency, and the most important thing is to carefully consider how this news circulates because there is also a purpose for this news to circulate because it wants to trigger traders to panic and sell their assets at cheap prices.

You can't win the media, only those who control the economy controls the media and this is why the government always win the race everytime. Look at the crypto media, how many did we have? Cointelegraph and Coindesk are the largest with other few news outlets and they are the ones that love to support bitcoin but we don't have even a single TV shows for Bitcoin and crypto and that's because it will be take down under a week.

So you see why you can't control how crypto news is passed around, even the YouTube and tiktok some people use are been censored because government and their platform is anti crypto, the only good platform is only Twitter which is now X.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bhadz on March 01, 2024, 03:53:22 AM
What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?
I don't even know what they are up to. There are still a lot of crypto folks in their country and they have to recognize that. I have no idea what they're planning because no matter what news of stoppage or ban is there, I am sure that there are whales and mining facilities and farms there that continue to operate and never ceased with their operations. So, if they want to ban, they should ban but I guess that my belief about them is opposite in crypto related affairs inside them.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: antonyyu3 on March 01, 2024, 09:41:53 AM
I agree with you. Crypto market is so large and full of endless possibilities. As the second-largest economy, I believe China will not let go of this chance. Considering the slump in its economy, it will try to activate its muscles and make an impact. China's e-currency has also launched and I do believe the gov will make it work.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 09, 2024, 08:55:31 PM
I don't even know what they are up to. There are still a lot of crypto folks in their country and they have to recognize that. I have no idea what they're planning because no matter what news of stoppage or ban is there, I am sure that there are whales and mining facilities and farms there that continue to operate and never ceased with their operations. So, if they want to ban, they should ban but I guess that my belief about them is opposite in crypto related affairs inside them.
I also believe that big whales in China are still actively manipulating the market with their huge capital. I hope this cash flow will not leave the market, it would be better if investors could legally trade and invest in crypto in China, the crypto market in China is also very large and potential.

Recently, in the context of the sharp increase in BTC price, the Chinese government has continued to warn people about the risks in the crypto market. I think this is a confirmation that China doesn't want a complete ban, they just haven't found a way to properly manage crypto.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: kulkhan on March 10, 2024, 09:45:00 AM
China is largest populated country. Total population till now 1.425 Billion. And Big part of Bitcoin mining happen in China. So if here happen any negative or positive news, it’s impact were also big. We know when China given positive news then Cryptocurrency market go up, and when we saw negative news from China then total cryptocurrency market were down. So it is proved China is big fact for crypto.

So i think if China soon welcomes crypto then we will saw strong bull market there has no doubt. Because China is stronger part of cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: legend45 on March 10, 2024, 12:36:19 PM
China is largest populated country. Total population till now 1.425 Billion. And Big part of Bitcoin mining happen in China. So if here happen any negative or positive news, it’s impact were also big. We know when China given positive news then Cryptocurrency market go up, and when we saw negative news from China then total cryptocurrency market were down. So it is proved China is big fact for crypto.

So i think if China soon welcomes crypto then we will saw strong bull market there has no doubt. Because China is stronger part of cryptocurrency.

as you stated earlier, the number of bitcoin miners in China is very large. But so far the Chinese government has banned bitcoin. If the Chinese government legalizes bitcoin, we will definitely see bitcoin strengthen further, with support from the large Chinese population.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 15, 2024, 08:28:19 PM
as you stated earlier, the number of bitcoin miners in China is very large. But so far the Chinese government has banned bitcoin. If the Chinese government legalizes bitcoin, we will definitely see bitcoin strengthen further, with support from the large Chinese population.
We all know that China has a huge economic potential. They have many billionaires and a huge amount of capital ready to invest. I believe that part of the success of ICOs in 2017-2018 came from the capital flow in the Chinese market. If China opens up to crypto soon, this capital flow could return and make the crypto market grow more strongly, similar to what we saw from the impact of the BTC Spot ETF in the US. Chinese people also accept risks to have the opportunity to change their financial position, they often like to invest and I believe they will not ignore crypto when choosing assets for their portfolio.

Hong Kong has opened up to crypto, I think if this experiment is successful, China will announce a change in their stance on crypto!
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Rubel007 on March 15, 2024, 11:03:53 PM
If China cancels the crypto ban it will definitely have an impact on crypto prices, because we know China is one of the biggest economics.  But until now China has not allowed crypto, even the Chinese coin NEO has not had any significant development.
 You share sad story, when China banned crypto at the past.  Hopefully China will have a good policy to allow crypto.
Can't fully believing with China withdraw their regulation banned crypto as currency transaction or commodity assets, they had did many time for making bitcoin and altcoin as illegal transaction and not easily for accepting the reason of China government want to make bitcoin back to legal.
In the past, China banned bitcoin several time and all mining activities not allowed there until right now, actually China become most country with large of cryptocurrency transaction than other country but get difficult to make bitcoin as legal currency transaction.
China has always been hostile to crypto. Especially the government of that country does not want its people to use Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. The Chinese government has tried different ways to convince the public about the disadvantages of using crypto. They declared Bitcoin illegal. Crypto mining has also been banned. But the public has behaved positively towards Bitcoin. Although not officially announced, the government is now taking a positive view of it. Maybe we'll get a crypto acceptance message from them soon.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Z-tight on March 15, 2024, 11:12:22 PM
as you stated earlier, the number of bitcoin miners in China is very large. But so far the Chinese government has banned bitcoin. If the Chinese government legalizes bitcoin, we will definitely see bitcoin strengthen further, with support from the large Chinese population.
BTC mining was very popular in China, but then their government banned it and most of the miners had to relocate to other locations, there would probably be miners left in China, but they must be mining in secret. I don't know why people worry about what China does concerning BTC, the network works without China and the Chinese economy likewise does not need BTC, so we can leave it at that.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 15, 2024, 11:35:05 PM
Because China is one of the key countries in the world economy, I can say yes, if China allows Cryptocurrencies more freely, I am sure it will be the starting point for a massive bullrun. The CBDC is still in the trial phase, but I think the development is the fastest compared to the implementation of CBDC in my country.

Even now, China seems to be taking several steps earlier to respond to the existence of cryptocurrencies, but that is with a model where the government can still have power over legalized cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 15, 2024, 11:57:13 PM
So far, there has been a lot of positive news about Bitcoin and this is quite normal. because after all, we will face the Bullsih era. At this time, the BTC price has already surpassed last season's ATH, and will definitely rise significantly. So, with the news from China, maybe it will only have a small impact, or maybe not. Because, a positive trend has already occurred and this will continue. At least, this is much more widespread than asking FUD again and again from the country.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 16, 2024, 02:51:38 AM
China did not welcome Bitcoin/crypto up to now but look at how Bullrun happens , the crypto market not need China to grow because there are lots of big players that can contribute more than how much china can bring.
but we will be welcoming this country of course as their contribution will give the market more value in time.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MRY on March 16, 2024, 08:19:09 AM
China did not welcome Bitcoin/crypto up to now but look at how Bullrun happens , the crypto market not need China to grow because there are lots of big players that can contribute more than how much china can bring.
but we will be welcoming this country of course as their contribution will give the market more value in time.
I understand that exchanges do have users from various countries, even if China does not accept cryptocurrency trading there are still many people from other countries providing support for Bitcoin, but if there is good news they start accepting Cryptocurrency trading and provide support for Bitcoin then the price of Bitcoin will increase very high, much higher than the current price, which is clear that currently there are still many countries that have not fully contributed to Bitcoin. I really hope that other countries start to accept and provide clear legality regarding the use or trading of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: FOKA33 on March 16, 2024, 09:08:13 AM
From my own perspective I think china been historical to adverse cryptocurrency, by been some belief that the country may soften it stance. A lot of people believe that china regulations as a cryptocurrency friendly country might lead to a bullrun due to the mass population and economic Influence of the country. Though china having a lot of potential for growth in the cryptocurrency space.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Themepen on March 16, 2024, 09:31:00 AM
From my own perspective I think china been historical to adverse cryptocurrency, by been some belief that the country may soften it stance. A lot of people believe that china regulations as a cryptocurrency friendly country might lead to a bullrun due to the mass population and economic Influence of the country. Though china having a lot of potential for growth in the cryptocurrency space.
I think China changing views on cryptocurrency are important for global crypto market. If China starts to support cryptocurrencies more it could have a big effect because of its large population and strong economy. If China makes rules that are good for crypto it could make more people invest and cause prices to go up.
It is important to be careful about how we see China changing views on cryptocurrency. We need to keep close eye on what China does with cryptocurrency and think about how it could affect whole world of crypto before we decide to invest based only on this.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bounceback on March 16, 2024, 11:21:46 AM
China is the most influential country at the moment and has quite promising potential for the future if you really want to make Bitcoin a legal transaction. Being able to control the global economic sector is very easy for China to get a positive response if it wants to make bitcoin a legal transaction, but in reality it is a little difficult considering that China has a bad reputation and has banned bitcoin transactions several times.
Firstly, bitcoin get good respond in China but after several years many ICO project launching there and suddenly China government close all operation with bitcoin including mining.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 16, 2024, 05:12:46 PM
One of the big economic country is China and they do business in almost all the countries of the world and their economic condition is very strong. China seems to be taking different decisions from time to time when it comes to cryptocurrency decisions. Sometimes it is seen that China is positive about cryptocurrency and sometimes they are negative. If China makes clear decisions on cryptocurrency and if that decision is in favor of Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, then the value of Bitcoin will definitely increase because then the number of investors in Bitcoin will increase a lot. Many may be waiting to invest and wait to see what China decides about Bitcoin, so China's decision will have some impact on the market.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 17, 2024, 02:58:51 PM
China did not welcome Bitcoin/crypto up to now but look at how Bullrun happens , the crypto market not need China to grow because there are lots of big players that can contribute more than how much china can bring.
but we will be welcoming this country of course as their contribution will give the market more value in time.

During the bear market, I didn't feel that China was supporting bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Now that we are in a bull run, I can't say that China will be the main reason for the bull run to strengthen.

Well, for me, I doubt and don't believe that because of China, the bull run will get stronger. China still doesn't have the support; Bitcoin is actually strong; maybe China can be a part of or one of the whale investors, but not at that point.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 19, 2024, 01:27:12 PM
Yes, China contributes greatly to the world economy today. I think if they welcome crypto in their country it will gain a strong impact in their economy, and surely it will be a strong bullrun on the crypto space.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: elbans89 on March 19, 2024, 07:02:03 PM
Yes, China contributes greatly to the world economy today. I think if they welcome crypto in their country it will gain a strong impact in their economy, and surely it will be a strong bullrun on the crypto space.

Many comments are similar, that if China supports crypto it will have a good influence on the crypto market. Because China has one of the largest populations, and also one of the largest economies in the world. Is there a way to promise the Chinese government to legalize crypto?
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Jating on March 20, 2024, 11:24:30 AM
Yes, China contributes greatly to the world economy today. I think if they welcome crypto in their country it will gain a strong impact in their economy, and surely it will be a strong bullrun on the crypto space.

Many comments are similar, that if China supports crypto it will have a good influence on the crypto market. Because China has one of the largest populations, and also one of the largest economies in the world. Is there a way to promise the Chinese government to legalize crypto?

It's true, but we have seen their government becoming anti-crypto, with all of their attacks like in Bitcoin mining wherein they said that it harms the environment argument. And as much as bitcoin is giving financial freedom, their their oppressive and authoritative government allow that to happen? And if you haven't heard, their President already admitted that they are in a economic crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsOC-J8VxSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsOC-J8VxSM)
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on March 20, 2024, 07:00:36 PM
Many comments are similar, that if China supports crypto it will have a good influence on the crypto market. Because China has one of the largest populations, and also one of the largest economies in the world. Is there a way to promise the Chinese government to legalize crypto?
That is why the Chinese government does not want to legalize crypto because they already understand the very high risks in cryptocurrency. They are one of the largest economic populations so they don't want to use cryptocurrency because they are worried that it will have a bad impact on their citizens and country.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 20, 2024, 07:19:53 PM
That is why the Chinese government does not want to legalize crypto because they already understand the very high risks in cryptocurrency. They are one of the largest economic populations so they don't want to use cryptocurrency because they are worried that it will have a bad impact on their citizens and country.
China did not illegalize cryptocurrencies either. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are considered as digital properties and they are not illegal in China. What confused people is that China did not consider bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as as currencies but as properties.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 21, 2024, 10:03:40 PM
Yes, China contributes greatly to the world economy today. I think if they welcome crypto in their country it will gain a strong impact in their economy, and surely it will be a strong bullrun on the crypto space.

Many comments are similar, that if China supports crypto it will have a good influence on the crypto market. Because China has one of the largest populations, and also one of the largest economies in the world. Is there a way to promise the Chinese government to legalize crypto?

I would agree with you on this point you have made. I believe if the Chinese government comes out publicly to declare their interest in accepting and adopting bitcoin and crypto currencies as a means of payment for services, believe me, whether bear or no bear market, bitcoin and crypto would plummet big time because of the influence the Chinese market has over other world markets. Just as you have said, the world economy, population, and every other thing that gives China a good edge over other nations are readily available to accept bitcoin for payment, and if this happens, I believe the world will follow suit as China gets more influence over most nations of the world.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on March 21, 2024, 10:13:15 PM
From what I have experienced in my personal life, China is known to be an opportunistic country in cryptocurrencies. China has banned Bitcoin many times before and re-legalized Bitcoin. Although China is a populous country and millions of users from China have invested in Bitcoin, this positive announcement or negative from China.The announcement may not generate much buzz in the Bitcoin market right now. Investors have understood this opportunistic announcement by China, which is why people do not want to take much positive in this announcement of China, regardless of whether China bans or recognizes Bitcoin.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gideon99 on March 23, 2024, 08:20:49 AM
The crypto market has suffered many negative impacts when China has made tough decisions against crypto in recent years:
  • 2013: China bans banks from crypto transactions
  • 2017: China bans crypto initial coin offerings
  • 2019: Attention turns to bitcoin mining
  • 2020: Enforcement ramps up
  • 2021: China bans crypto trading and mining[1]
Every time there is negative information from China, the crypto community often worries because bans can cause the crypto market to lose investors and abundant cash flow from China. However, the crypto market continues to grow and is not dependent on any country. Even when China banned Bitcoin mining, miners came to the United States and helped the United States become the leading country in mining power, accounting for 35.4% of the hash rate, nearly double the second place, Kazakhstan, with 18.1%[2].

Besides, China's relationship with cryptocurrency is more nuanced than the simple "banned" label often applied by Western media. While authorities cracked down on several aspects, individual ownership and peer-to-peer trading remain largely untouched[3].

There are many reasons for this problem, I think that by pushing crypto into the gray area, China might keep crypto at arm's length while exploring blockchain tech and central bank digital currencies e-CNY from 2019: 120 million wallets, 26 cities serving as test beds and 5.6 million merchants registered to use the currency national, total transactions had reached 950 million with a cumulative value of 1.8 trillion yuan (US$249.9 billion) by the end of June 2023[4].

Recently, Hong Kong, which is considered a territory strongly influenced by China, has opened its doors to crypto[5]. This may be an experiment with crypto that China wants to conduct before opening up and adopting crypto in the mainland.

I personally believe that China is wise enough to realize the potential of crypto for the development of the economy, at least regarding the lucrative crypto tax source for the national budget. They are just developing their own CBDC and conducting small-scale testing in Hong Kong before opening up to crypto throughout the territory. If this happens, a huge amount of capital from Chinese investors could flow into the crypto market and create strong growth. I hope that this comes in 2025 and we have an extremely strong bullrun and take BTC to $100K.

What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?

[1] China Crypto Bans: A Complete History (https://www.coindesk.com/learn/china-crypto-bans-a-complete-history/)
[2] 60+ Bitcoin Mining and Energy Consumption Statistics For 2024 You Need to Know (https://www.techopedia.com/bitcoin-mining-and-energy-statistics)
[3] China Never Completely Banned Crypto (https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2024/02/05/china-never-completely-banned-crypto/)
[4] What’s the state of China’s digital yuan in 2023? (https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3237317/whats-state-chinas-digital-yuan-2023)
[5]  As the US cracks down on crypto, Hong Kong extends a warm welcome (https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/29/hong-kong-china-crypto-east-rises/)

If china was to reserve it current situation on crypto currency and start trading it . It will lead to a strong bulk run in market. China is the largest worlds cryptocurrency mining county, and china could allow the use of cryptocurrency, it would be a significant impact on the overall crypto market. It's definitely not certain to know what will happen if china change it stands on cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 23, 2024, 10:12:19 AM
From what I have experienced in my personal life, China is known to be an opportunistic country in cryptocurrencies. China has banned Bitcoin many times before and re-legalized Bitcoin. Although China is a populous country and millions of users from China have invested in Bitcoin, this positive announcement or negative from China.The announcement may not generate much buzz in the Bitcoin market right now. Investors have understood this opportunistic announcement by China, which is why people do not want to take much positive in this announcement of China, regardless of whether China bans or recognizes Bitcoin.
If I get you clear, you are talking about China being an opportunist country and I believe being an opportunist country, they always want to see how they could take advantage of things in their favor but I believe wether being opportunist country or not, China has the market power and will and whenever chinese government makes any statement, it affects what ever direction that statement goes or is focused on. They got the population, the have a strong economy so they gave say in the world economy as well. Do not forget that they are are contending force in the production industry so anything they say or do have some side effects as well.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: doc on March 23, 2024, 11:18:06 AM

If I get you clear, you are talking about China being an opportunist country and I believe being an opportunist country, they always want to see how they could take advantage of things in their favor but I believe wether being opportunist country or not, China has the market power and will and whenever chinese government makes any statement, it affects what ever direction that statement goes or is focused on. They got the population, the have a strong economy so they gave say in the world economy as well. Do not forget that they are are contending force in the production industry so anything they say or do have some side effects as well.

Yes, China has great economic power as one of the countries with the world's largest economy and we know its population is very large, so statements coming out of China about bitcoin will affect the crypto market.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 23, 2024, 05:41:49 PM
What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?
OMG, you always come up with unique and interesting posts, that are totally new for me, just like the article in this post that says China never bans crypto completely, I mean I read news where the Chinese government punished a government officer for using crypto and gave him a long sentence, I read many other news as well, but what I did not know that $90 billion of dollars are traded only on Binance and only in one month that's shockingly amazing.

Well, this indicates one thing that all the western media or other media that are creating an environment in the world's population's mind, that china is not supporting crypto and strictly prohibit it, are the actors of a single country which is getting the most of the benefit, I mean, before it was china, on which all eyes were, and now its USA and the most benefit is also to USA as well, and there is no doubt that big influencers sitting in USA have great control on all types of medias. Well, sadly that's not right. Things should be made crystal clear to people.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: legend45 on March 23, 2024, 11:03:37 PM

If I get you clear, you are talking about China being an opportunist country and I believe being an opportunist country, they always want to see how they could take advantage of things in their favor but I believe wether being opportunist country or not, China has the market power and will and whenever chinese government makes any statement, it affects what ever direction that statement goes or is focused on. They got the population, the have a strong economy so they gave say in the world economy as well. Do not forget that they are are contending force in the production industry so anything they say or do have some side effects as well.

Yes, China has great economic power as one of the countries with the world's largest economy and we know its population is very large, so statements coming out of China about bitcoin will affect the crypto market.

Many people hope that the Chinese government will allow Bitcoin, but we should not hope about that. Because China has always been against Bitcoin. Even though China, as a large country economically and in population, has always opposed Bitcoin, to this day Bitcoin still exists and is more popular than before.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 23, 2024, 11:27:34 PM

If I get you clear, you are talking about China being an opportunist country and I believe being an opportunist country, they always want to see how they could take advantage of things in their favor but I believe wether being opportunist country or not, China has the market power and will and whenever chinese government makes any statement, it affects what ever direction that statement goes or is focused on. They got the population, the have a strong economy so they gave say in the world economy as well. Do not forget that they are are contending force in the production industry so anything they say or do have some side effects as well.

Yes, China has great economic power as one of the countries with the world's largest economy and we know its population is very large, so statements coming out of China about bitcoin will affect the crypto market.

Many people hope that the Chinese government will allow Bitcoin, but we should not hope about that. Because China has always been against Bitcoin. Even though China, as a large country economically and in population, has always opposed Bitcoin, to this day Bitcoin still exists and is more popular than before.
Of a truth China has a great population that could trigger a hike in Bitcoin price and if that happens, it is a good thing and it would positively be in favour of Bitcoin enthusiast. I wish the Chinese government would look into it and see the reasons why Bitcoin is good to be classified as a financial legal tender and immediately approve of it to be adopted and  integrated into the financial system of their economy. That alone could trigger other nations looking up to China to follow suit to accepting Bitcoin and other Crypto currency.
 
These are just assumption and not the reality.  Do not misquote me.

Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: pacar_tiri on March 24, 2024, 05:02:15 PM
Many people hope that the Chinese government will allow Bitcoin, but we should not hope about that. Because China has always been against Bitcoin. Even though China, as a large country economically and in population, has always opposed Bitcoin, to this day Bitcoin still exists and is more popular than before.
The Chinese government is very smart, they will not allow bitcoin to enter their country because they are aware that bitcoin is very dangerous, bitcoin is currently controlled by many people and most of them are the global elite who have a lot of money, perhaps from China's opponents, so that's how It is best for them to strongly reject bitcoin so that their people are not affected by the bad effects of bitcoin.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: cebo on March 25, 2024, 12:52:39 AM
The crypto market has suffered many negative impacts when China has made tough decisions against crypto in recent years:
  • 2013: China bans banks from crypto transactions
  • 2017: China bans crypto initial coin offerings
  • 2019: Attention turns to bitcoin mining
  • 2020: Enforcement ramps up
  • 2021: China bans crypto trading and mining[1]

What do you think about how China manages crypto? Is this an effective approach? What could China be planning with crypto in the future?
China has a very large market capacity and there is a lot of news that China wants to defeat the dominance of the US Dollar.
But the reality is that if China is like this, it will be very difficult to beat the USD Dollar because we all know that the USD has become a currency that is bought and sold almost all over the world.

In cryptocurrency, China will be able to continue to support every project that can make money because as I mentioned earlier, China wants to defeat the dominance of the US Dollar from around the world and China will do whatever it takes, including managing cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 25, 2024, 07:39:52 AM
From what I have experienced in my personal life, China is known to be an opportunistic country in cryptocurrencies.
well that is not just for cryptocurrencies mate but China is opportunistic in everything in this world .

they even taking advantage in everything that they have a chance to take.
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China has banned Bitcoin many times before and re-legalized Bitcoin. Although China is a populous country and millions of users from China have invested in Bitcoin, this positive announcement or negative from China.The announcement may not generate much buzz in the Bitcoin market right now. Investors have understood this opportunistic announcement by China, which is why people do not want to take much positive in this announcement of China, regardless of whether China bans or recognizes Bitcoin.
banning bitcoin in china will never bring bitcoin down instead they are just hindering their people to earn and to have chances in this area of profiting and using.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 28, 2024, 06:10:51 PM
OMG, you always come up with unique and interesting posts, that are totally new for me, just like the article in this post that says China never bans crypto completely, I mean I read news where the Chinese government punished a government officer for using crypto and gave him a long sentence, I read many other news as well, but what I did not know that $90 billion of dollars are traded only on Binance and only in one month that's shockingly amazing.

Well, this indicates one thing that all the western media or other media that are creating an environment in the world's population's mind, that china is not supporting crypto and strictly prohibit it, are the actors of a single country which is getting the most of the benefit, I mean, before it was china, on which all eyes were, and now its USA and the most benefit is also to USA as well, and there is no doubt that big influencers sitting in USA have great control on all types of medias. Well, sadly that's not right. Things should be made crystal clear to people.
I don't like to dwell on conspiracy theories, but I've always believed that the Chinese government has always had many big plans to increase its position in the world: economically, technologically, and even in crypto. China is very enthusiastic about researching and finding ways to apply blockchain technology, and at the same time implementing CBDC as e-CNY, they don't want to miss out on this attractive market. The only thing we don't know is: when will China return and what strategy will they return with?

I think there is always room for Chinese investors in the crypto market, and their capital will make the crypto market grow stronger. But I fear that China's CBDC will be learned and applied in other countries, making CBDC popular and having a negative impact on people through high control.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 28, 2024, 06:39:09 PM
I don't like to dwell on conspiracy theories, but I've always believed that the Chinese government has always had many big plans to increase its position in the world: economically, technologically, and even in crypto. China is very enthusiastic about researching and finding ways to apply blockchain technology, and at the same time implementing CBDC as e-CNY, they don't want to miss out on this attractive market. The only thing we don't know is: when will China return and what strategy will they return with?
As you already have stated in your main post about their second division Hong Kong which is crypto-friendly and welcomes every investor and crypto platform. Promoting crypto in every narrative. I already knew the info from BTT shared it a lot of time there, the point is, Chinese might not be allowed to do trading, or other crypto related stuff in public or openly but they can go to HK the second division part of China which have its own monetary system, government system, but still under the control of China. When I get to know this info back in time, I then realized that China is going to make a comeback soon, maybe not now but when some bul run will come. And now your post has shed more light on this case for me that crypto is not banned its just not regulated.
I think there is always room for Chinese investors in the crypto market, and their capital will make the crypto market grow stronger. But I fear that China's CBDC will be learned and applied in other countries, making CBDC popular and having a negative impact on people through high control.
Chinese are investing there funds in crypto and there is no doubt in that, they are loyal people I don't think they will face any problem in accepting the CBDC or so called e-cny system. Because they like to pay tax for the sake of there country. I like that kind of mentality. CBDC have its own pros and cons but I suggest it will only increase the adoption of crypto either goes as planned or not.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 31, 2024, 10:54:39 PM
As you already have stated in your main post about their second division Hong Kong which is crypto-friendly and welcomes every investor and crypto platform. Promoting crypto in every narrative. I already knew the info from BTT shared it a lot of time there, the point is, Chinese might not be allowed to do trading, or other crypto related stuff in public or openly but they can go to HK the second division part of China which have its own monetary system, government system, but still under the control of China. When I get to know this info back in time, I then realized that China is going to make a comeback soon, maybe not now but when some bul run will come. And now your post has shed more light on this case for me that crypto is not banned its just not regulated.

Chinese are investing there funds in crypto and there is no doubt in that, they are loyal people I don't think they will face any problem in accepting the CBDC or so called e-cny system. Because they like to pay tax for the sake of there country. I like that kind of mentality. CBDC have its own pros and cons but I suggest it will only increase the adoption of crypto either goes as planned or not.
We will wait and see the progress of crypto in Hong Kong and the reaction of China. China has been silent throughout the 2020 cycle but recently they have warned people about the insecurity of investing in BTC and crypto. I'm not sure this is negative news, maybe they are just preparing to accept crypto after the success of Hong Kong.

I don't like China's CBDC. e-CNY does not operate on the blockchain and it is not really transparent. It is just a centralized token and similar to digital money in a banking app. I am waiting for a better CBDC that is backed by the government and operates on public blockchains!
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: milewilda on March 31, 2024, 11:03:34 PM
Ban or not, it doesnt matter because this market could pump out with or without them. Come to think that we've been into those peaks without needing anyone.
It would matter in overall or global recognition or adoption but of course there would be some exclusions into those countries or government who do really hate up crypto.
Somehow we cant really be able to deny that on the time that China would really be kicking in then it would really be giving out that kind of significant effect
which it could drive up the price even more. Cant really deny their purchasing power when it comes on everything.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 03, 2024, 06:22:50 PM
Ban or not, it doesnt matter because this market could pump out with or without them. Come to think that we've been into those peaks without needing anyone.
It would matter in overall or global recognition or adoption but of course there would be some exclusions into those countries or government who do really hate up crypto.
Somehow we cant really be able to deny that on the time that China would really be kicking in then it would really be giving out that kind of significant effect
which it could drive up the price even more. Cant really deny their purchasing power when it comes on everything.
The growth of the crypto market in the 2021 bullrun is perhaps the clearest evidence that the crypto market is not dependent on any country. However, it would be better if the market had more investors and money flow.

Many people have blamed the fact that BTC was unable to reach $100K in 2021 on the FED's decision or the weak participation of Chinese investors. Therefore, I believe that when investors in the world's second largest economy participate in the crypto market, the explosion of crypto will be even more violent, especially for tokens with teams in China such as Neo and Tron.

I hope that the experiment in Hong Kong will soon bring good results and that China will open up to crypto in early 2025, creating the momentum for crypto total cap to surpass Gold cap ~ $15.4T in this cycle.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gyrgen on April 03, 2024, 10:37:13 PM
Ban or not, it doesnt matter because this market could pump out with or without them. Come to think that we've been into those peaks without needing anyone.
It would matter in overall or global recognition or adoption but of course there would be some exclusions into those countries or government who do really hate up crypto.
Somehow we cant really be able to deny that on the time that China would really be kicking in then it would really be giving out that kind of significant effect
which it could drive up the price even more. Cant really deny their purchasing power when it comes on everything.
The growth of the crypto market in the 2021 bullrun is perhaps the clearest evidence that the crypto market is not dependent on any country. However, it would be better if the market had more investors and money flow.

Many people have blamed the fact that BTC was unable to reach $100K in 2021 on the FED's decision or the weak participation of Chinese investors. Therefore, I believe that when investors in the world's second largest economy participate in the crypto market, the explosion of crypto will be even more violent, especially for tokens with teams in China such as Neo and Tron.

I hope that the experiment in Hong Kong will soon bring good results and that China will open up to crypto in early 2025, creating the momentum for crypto total cap to surpass Gold cap ~ $15.4T in this cycle.
Investments in the financial sector of the economy instead of the real one can have a very negative impact in the future. Already now the share of the financial sector is very significantly higher than the share of the real one, and this is not good. Regarding China, there are smart people in the government of the country and they understand that the development of crypto is not for them priority task. They don’t know what to do with US government debt bonds, and then there’s crypto. And above all, the Chinese government is able to influence the decision-making of private capital that exists in their country.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 06, 2024, 09:43:35 PM
Investments in the financial sector of the economy instead of the real one can have a very negative impact in the future. Already now the share of the financial sector is very significantly higher than the share of the real one, and this is not good. Regarding China, there are smart people in the government of the country and they understand that the development of crypto is not for them priority task. They don’t know what to do with US government debt bonds, and then there’s crypto. And above all, the Chinese government is able to influence the decision-making of private capital that exists in their country.
Yeah, I understand this. China is not really ready for crypto yet, or to be more precise, they are not ready to take the risk of accepting crypto into their national economy. The CBDC e-CNY is a countermeasure they have taken to adapt to crypto, but it has not been really effective. Currently, along with the crypto experiment in Hong Kong, China is also facing deflation in the country, which is even more stressful than the inflation in the US, EU and Japan. I still hope that in the future, China will open up to crypto and we can see positive things from wealthy investors in China in this market.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: doc on April 07, 2024, 02:46:35 PM
Investments in the financial sector of the economy instead of the real one can have a very negative impact in the future. Already now the share of the financial sector is very significantly higher than the share of the real one, and this is not good. Regarding China, there are smart people in the government of the country and they understand that the development of crypto is not for them priority task. They don’t know what to do with US government debt bonds, and then there’s crypto. And above all, the Chinese government is able to influence the decision-making of private capital that exists in their country.
Yeah, I understand this. China is not really ready for crypto yet, or to be more precise, they are not ready to take the risk of accepting crypto into their national economy. The CBDC e-CNY is a countermeasure they have taken to adapt to crypto, but it has not been really effective. Currently, along with the crypto experiment in Hong Kong, China is also facing deflation in the country, which is even more stressful than the inflation in the US, EU and Japan. I still hope that in the future, China will open up to crypto and we can see positive things from wealthy investors in China in this market.
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 09, 2024, 10:34:13 PM
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market
I don't dare to expect such a big change from the Chinese government, because it may not be really good if crypto is accepted hastily without being studied carefully enough. El Salvador can easily adopt BTC because they don't have a national currency, while China has a strong national currency, the CNY. A bad crypto strategy can cause problems for the economy and the consequences will be global, negatively impacting many markets.

I also don't like the crypto ban in China, I don't like things to be too extreme, especially when it comes to economics and politics. It would be better if China gradually opened up to crypto in order to research and comprehensively assess the potential impacts of crypto on society, and then find a suitable way to manage it in order to protect the people, while also collecting taxes to supplement the national budget.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yohananaomi on April 10, 2024, 10:42:06 PM
Investments in the financial sector of the economy instead of the real one can have a very negative impact in the future. Already now the share of the financial sector is very significantly higher than the share of the real one, and this is not good. Regarding China, there are smart people in the government of the country and they understand that the development of crypto is not for them priority task. They don’t know what to do with US government debt bonds, and then there’s crypto. And above all, the Chinese government is able to influence the decision-making of private capital that exists in their country.
Yeah, I understand this. China is not really ready for crypto yet, or to be more precise, they are not ready to take the risk of accepting crypto into their national economy. The CBDC e-CNY is a countermeasure they have taken to adapt to crypto, but it has not been really effective. Currently, along with the crypto experiment in Hong Kong, China is also facing deflation in the country, which is even more stressful than the inflation in the US, EU and Japan. I still hope that in the future, China will open up to crypto and we can see positive things from wealthy investors in China in this market.
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market
China's population plays a big role in every development that is carried out, including, of course, crypto. I really agree with you that if crypto can be developed and used there, then the impact will occur with crypto indirectly, because trade is very active with increasing Chinese being able to participate. China is a country that is very technologically advanced, so one day they will make good use of crypto or at least develop their own, which in fact the goal may be in that direction. We don't know and will just wait for further developments.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 13, 2024, 08:56:24 PM
China's population plays a big role in every development that is carried out, including, of course, crypto. I really agree with you that if crypto can be developed and used there, then the impact will occur with crypto indirectly, because trade is very active with increasing Chinese being able to participate. China is a country that is very technologically advanced, so one day they will make good use of crypto or at least develop their own, which in fact the goal may be in that direction. We don't know and will just wait for further developments.
China is actively researching and applying blockchain technology to their country. We don't know exactly how they are applying blockchain technology to supply chains or transportation and education, everything is still a secret, but we know that there are blockchain alliances operating in China such as Blockchain-based Service Network. I have a feeling they are looking for ways to avoid the concept of crypto so as not to violate the regulations that are being applied to crypto. I doubt the feasibility of this effort because blockchain needs crypto to operate in a decentralized and sustainable manner. If China still wants to apply and take advantage of the value of blockchain technology, they will have to accept crypto.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bayu7adi on April 14, 2024, 06:55:31 AM
I doubt the feasibility of this effort because blockchain needs crypto to operate in a decentralized and sustainable manner. If China still wants to apply and take advantage of the value of blockchain technology, they will have to accept crypto.
Sorry friends, but I don't agree with the statement that blockchain requires crypto... because as far as I know, blockchain is a collection of chained data and it is not always represented in the form of cryptocurrency. China can still implement blockchain technology for the needs of its government or citizens without having to involve crypto...

For crypto itself, I think China is more focused on their own CBDC, where in recent years they have been researching and conducting many experiments to empower this CBDC.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: target on April 15, 2024, 02:52:10 PM

I heard the Hongkong regulator is approving their BTC ETFs. This will certainly make the bull run continues.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yohananaomi on April 16, 2024, 05:09:08 PM
China's population plays a big role in every development that is carried out, including, of course, crypto. I really agree with you that if crypto can be developed and used there, then the impact will occur with crypto indirectly, because trade is very active with increasing Chinese being able to participate. China is a country that is very technologically advanced, so one day they will make good use of crypto or at least develop their own, which in fact the goal may be in that direction. We don't know and will just wait for further developments.
China is actively researching and applying blockchain technology to their country. We don't know exactly how they are applying blockchain technology to supply chains or transportation and education, everything is still a secret, but we know that there are blockchain alliances operating in China such as Blockchain-based Service Network. I have a feeling they are looking for ways to avoid the concept of crypto so as not to violate the regulations that are being applied to crypto. I doubt the feasibility of this effort because blockchain needs crypto to operate in a decentralized and sustainable manner. If China still wants to apply and take advantage of the value of blockchain technology, they will have to accept crypto.
China really wants to always be at the forefront in the application of technology and be able to create something that is the same as what already exists. You are right, to avoid breaking the rules, you can be sure they will use another concept. It could even be similar or better in terms of the concept. We're waiting for that because I foresee no difficulty for them to be able to implement that at some point., Agree that they must first be willing to accept crypto so that there can be comparisons or to make it easier to do what they want to do in their own way.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: KingsDen on April 16, 2024, 09:49:26 PM
China's population plays a big role in every development that is carried out, including, of course, crypto. I really agree with you that if crypto can be developed and used there, then the impact will occur with crypto indirectly, because trade is very active with increasing Chinese being able to participate. China is a country that is very technologically advanced, so one day they will make good use of crypto or at least develop their own, which in fact the goal may be in that direction. We don't know and will just wait for further developments.
China is actively researching and applying blockchain technology to their country. We don't know exactly how they are applying blockchain technology to supply chains or transportation and education, everything is still a secret, but we know that there are blockchain alliances operating in China such as Blockchain-based Service Network. I have a feeling they are looking for ways to avoid the concept of crypto so as not to violate the regulations that are being applied to crypto. I doubt the feasibility of this effort because blockchain needs crypto to operate in a decentralized and sustainable manner. If China still wants to apply and take advantage of the value of blockchain technology, they will have to accept crypto.
I was surprised when China declared ban. I wasn't expecting them to do so because they have foresight and should have seen the future of bitcoin and cryptocurrency. I had thought that it was a strategy to make US ban bitcoin as well and they will return to colonize the industry. But their ploy failed. I have known China to be the rival of US and vice versa. Maybe the reason US didn't toe their lane. Expect China's return to the industry in a big and dynamic way.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Alston Liu on April 17, 2024, 04:50:53 AM

I heard the Hongkong regulator is approving their BTC ETFs. This will certainly make the bull run continues.

Yeah I have the same feelings. The action by Hong Kong could be partly the attitude of China. China will do what it needs for the economy. Because of the characteristics of Hong Kong, it could be a good place to test the water and also release the signal for investors from China. Overall it will contribute to the crypto markets
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Post by: Google+ on April 18, 2024, 09:54:05 AM
Yeah I have the same feelings. The action by Hong Kong could be partly the attitude of China. China will do what it needs for the economy. Because of the characteristics of Hong Kong, it could be a good place to test the water and also release the signal for investors from China. Overall it will contribute to the crypto markets
If the bull run continues, then why has the price of Bitcoin on the market shown an extraordinary decline recently? Shouldn't the price of bitcoin rise again and surprise many people again? I don't think Hong Kong will have any influence on China and will remain with its stance of not caring about any type of cryptocurrency, including Bitcoin.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Alston Liu on April 19, 2024, 08:53:18 AM
Yeah I have the same feelings. The action by Hong Kong could be partly the attitude of China. China will do what it needs for the economy. Because of the characteristics of Hong Kong, it could be a good place to test the water and also release the signal for investors from China. Overall it will contribute to the crypto markets
If the bull run continues, then why has the price of Bitcoin on the market shown an extraordinary decline recently? Shouldn't the price of bitcoin rise again and surprise many people again? I don't think Hong Kong will have any influence on China and will remain with its stance of not caring about any type of cryptocurrency, including Bitcoin.
I think one of the reasons is that China has been out of the loop for a while in the cryptos market. It has sizes and potential and hasn't been a huge voice yet due to its own policy against cryptos in the past years. People in China still have buying power but considering the economic downtrend recently their attitude toward Bitcoin is still up in the air. The impact may not come right away. Besides, Hong Kong is considered one of the largest financial centers in Asia. Though it was left behind in this industry, the signals of embracing cryptos can boost the confidence of people in China.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2024, 01:23:52 AM
I have a position in China that is very opportunistic with the issue of bitcoin and crypto, for them the best is their own stablecoin, and there is no other, because for bitcoin they have done a very good job propagating it and then completely filling bitcoin with FUD Of course, I am a person who does not believe in any government, any politician, no matter how much he says and promises good things, because it is very similar to what Elon Musk did because he spoke badly about bitcoin, so these types of things for a country that tell them now that it is pro-bitcoin or pro-crypto, because there is a very large itnere's, of course it will give a bullish impulse, but it will also exert strong pressure on those Chinese citizens who have great control over them, it is beneficial so that they can raise the price of bitcoin, but I wouldn't trust much of what this country says because I know that later they will speak badly about bitcoin.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: doc on April 20, 2024, 03:26:31 PM
I have a position in China that is very opportunistic with the issue of bitcoin and crypto, for them the best is their own stablecoin, and there is no other, because for bitcoin they have done a very good job propagating it and then completely filling bitcoin with FUD Of course, I am a person who does not believe in any government, any politician, no matter how much he says and promises good things, because it is very similar to what Elon Musk did because he spoke badly about bitcoin, so these types of things for a country that tell them now that it is pro-bitcoin or pro-crypto, because there is a very large itnere's, of course it will give a bullish impulse, but it will also exert strong pressure on those Chinese citizens who have great control over them, it is beneficial so that they can raise the price of bitcoin, but I wouldn't trust much of what this country says because I know that later they will speak badly about bitcoin.
In fact, we know that China is one of the countries with the largest economy in the world, but until now China has not supported and allowed bitcoin and crypto there. Maybe if China legalizes bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will be higher than today because it has a large crypto community.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 20, 2024, 03:46:13 PM
I have a position in China that is very opportunistic with the issue of bitcoin and crypto, for them the best is their own stablecoin, and there is no other, because for bitcoin they have done a very good job propagating it and then completely filling bitcoin with FUD Of course, I am a person who does not believe in any government, any politician, no matter how much he says and promises good things, because it is very similar to what Elon Musk did because he spoke badly about bitcoin, so these types of things for a country that tell them now that it is pro-bitcoin or pro-crypto, because there is a very large itnere's, of course it will give a bullish impulse, but it will also exert strong pressure on those Chinese citizens who have great control over them, it is beneficial so that they can raise the price of bitcoin, but I wouldn't trust much of what this country says because I know that later they will speak badly about bitcoin.
In fact, we know that China is one of the countries with the largest economy in the world, but until now China has not supported and allowed bitcoin and crypto there. Maybe if China legalizes bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will be higher than today because it has a large crypto community.

For now I think few cities only hosts cryptocurrency activities like Hongkong which is I think very open to crypto. I think they already approved Bitcoin and Ethereum ETF if I am not mistaken. But if China, Russia, North Korea and other communist countries I think it has huge impact in the cryptocurrency market but we all know it seems not possible right now. 😅
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: pacar_tiri on April 21, 2024, 05:25:21 PM
For now I think few cities only hosts cryptocurrency activities like Hongkong which is I think very open to crypto. I think they already approved Bitcoin and Ethereum ETF if I am not mistaken. But if China, Russia, North Korea and other communist countries I think it has huge impact in the cryptocurrency market but we all know it seems not possible right now. 😅
It's true, Hong Kong has approved ETFs, but China and several countries you mentioned are still adamant about prohibiting the use of cryptocurrencies in their countries and will never give any ETF permission for cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin. They are a very developed country with very good economic conditions. They don't want their country to be destroyed because they allow their people to carry out cryptocurrency trading activities which have the potential to make them bankrupt.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 22, 2024, 09:29:57 PM
I have a position in China that is very opportunistic with the issue of bitcoin and crypto, for them the best is their own stablecoin, and there is no other, because for bitcoin they have done a very good job propagating it and then completely filling bitcoin with FUD Of course, I am a person who does not believe in any government, any politician, no matter how much he says and promises good things, because it is very similar to what Elon Musk did because he spoke badly about bitcoin, so these types of things for a country that tell them now that it is pro-bitcoin or pro-crypto, because there is a very large itnere's, of course it will give a bullish impulse, but it will also exert strong pressure on those Chinese citizens who have great control over them, it is beneficial so that they can raise the price of bitcoin, but I wouldn't trust much of what this country says because I know that later they will speak badly about bitcoin.
In fact, we know that China is one of the countries with the largest economy in the world, but until now China has not supported and allowed bitcoin and crypto there. Maybe if China legalizes bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will be higher than today because it has a large crypto community.

Well, I hope it is like that because we are not people who can generate very good market speculation options, but I think if China releases that they can buy Bitcoin , that will Undoubtedly lead to a great rise in the price of bitcoin and that will be decisive for that we can generate high-level speculations, but if China allows bitcoin, I imagine that it will impose a large tax on those who do not use it, but given that China is such a large country, with one of the best economies in the world, just as you say , since it can trigger many good things or, above all, for bitcoin to rise in price, although we all know that in China they do manage bitcoin under privacy and Anonymity protocols.

Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 24, 2024, 05:47:54 PM
Well, I hope it is like that because we are not people who can generate very good market speculation options, but I think if China releases that they can buy Bitcoin , that will Undoubtedly lead to a great rise in the price of bitcoin and that will be decisive for that we can generate high-level speculations, but if China allows bitcoin, I imagine that it will impose a large tax on those who do not use it, but given that China is such a large country, with one of the best economies in the world, just as you say , since it can trigger many good things or, above all, for bitcoin to rise in price, although we all know that in China they do manage bitcoin under privacy and Anonymity protocols.
As long as Hong Kong continues to accept crypto, I will still have expectations for the return of investment capital from the mainland into this market. For now, we can wait for the success of BTC & ETH Spot ETFs in Hong Kong, which will be a good sign that people are really interested in the crypto market and that the Chinese government will have more motivation to allow crypto to be traded legally as before.

The legal framework and tax will be an inevitable part of the plan to manage the crypto market. We don't need to worry too much about this issue because if the Chinese government wants to allow the crypto market to exist, it will not be too greedy and set too high a tax rate.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on April 24, 2024, 09:03:58 PM
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market

If more countries are accepting crypto then the popularity of crypto will increase as a consequence of which it will become more successful. But the government of each country thinks differently so I think if China has not accepted crypto yet then there will be some reason behind it which we cannot understand.

The success of crypto is related to the adoption by the people therefore I think if China accepts crypto then Bitcoin price will increase even more than newly created ATH.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Gyrgen on April 24, 2024, 09:32:26 PM
Investments in the financial sector of the economy instead of the real one can have a very negative impact in the future. Already now the share of the financial sector is very significantly higher than the share of the real one, and this is not good. Regarding China, there are smart people in the government of the country and they understand that the development of crypto is not for them priority task. They don’t know what to do with US government debt bonds, and then there’s crypto. And above all, the Chinese government is able to influence the decision-making of private capital that exists in their country.
Yeah, I understand this. China is not really ready for crypto yet, or to be more precise, they are not ready to take the risk of accepting crypto into their national economy. The CBDC e-CNY is a countermeasure they have taken to adapt to crypto, but it has not been really effective. Currently, along with the crypto experiment in Hong Kong, China is also facing deflation in the country, which is even more stressful than the inflation in the US, EU and Japan. I still hope that in the future, China will open up to crypto and we can see positive things from wealthy investors in China in this market.
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market
In fact, I think the Chinese government has enough high-level economic advisers who know and understand their own economy and the consequences of making certain economic decisions better than us. And the planning horizon, as in any serious government, is not a year or 5 years, but at least 50. So if they don’t do this, there are serious reasons for this.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 24, 2024, 11:00:18 PM
Well, I hope it is like that because we are not people who can generate very good market speculation options, but I think if China releases that they can buy Bitcoin , that will Undoubtedly lead to a great rise in the price of bitcoin and that will be decisive for that we can generate high-level speculations, but if China allows bitcoin, I imagine that it will impose a large tax on those who do not use it, but given that China is such a large country, with one of the best economies in the world, just as you say , since it can trigger many good things or, above all, for bitcoin to rise in price, although we all know that in China they do manage bitcoin under privacy and Anonymity protocols.
As long as Hong Kong continues to accept crypto, I will still have expectations for the return of investment capital from the mainland into this market. For now, we can wait for the success of BTC & ETH Spot ETFs in Hong Kong, which will be a good sign that people are really interested in the crypto market and that the Chinese government will have more motivation to allow crypto to be traded legally as before.

The legal framework and tax will be an inevitable part of the plan to manage the crypto market. We don't need to worry too much about this issue because if the Chinese government wants to allow the crypto market to exist, it will not be too greedy and set too high a tax rate.

I think something, as long as bitcoin continues its course as it is, that is, liquid money, a country like China cannot reject money, at some point it will not enter China, and in fact, it will enter with regulations for its people, so this is something that It is a fact, in addition the Chinese are very calculating, and they cannot miss an opportunity like this, that is why they talk bin or bad about crypto, about bitcoin, it is for pure convenience, we all know it, China has great power to exercise prohibitions people of many things that are done within the legal framework and that are very radical for those who violate its rules, but in this case we are talking about a lot of money, and they obviously will not leave the opportunity to make money.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yohananaomi on April 24, 2024, 11:46:19 PM
Actually, China should start developing their crypto and allow crypto to be used by its citizens, because several countries have legalized bitcoin as an investment. If China takes the role of legalizing Bitcoin as one of the countries with the largest population and economy, it will have a good impact on the crypto market
If more countries are accepting crypto then the popularity of crypto will increase as a consequence of which it will become more successful. But the government of each country thinks differently so I think if China has not accepted crypto yet then there will be some reason behind it which we cannot understand.

The success of crypto is related to the adoption by the people therefore I think if China accepts crypto then Bitcoin price will increase even more than newly created ATH.
You are right, theoretically, as more countries want to adopt Bitcoin, its popularity will increase and trading will definitely become more active, which will result in prices possibly also increasing. China has banned it because the mining that takes place there really disrupts the ecosystem in their country, but if we want to accept it now, it will be because there are other elements that we may not yet know about.
Hopefully, this is good news, not just increasing the popularity of others.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 25, 2024, 12:13:38 AM
Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 28, 2024, 11:03:43 PM
Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.
This is a scenario that many investors are hoping for, as China is the world's 2nd largest economy and its citizens are willing to take on higher risks and invest more in crypto to change their financial situation. China's crypto policy is also quite interesting: they do not ban crypto outright, they still recognize crypto as an asset, and they allow Hong Kong to adopt crypto as a small-scale experiment.

Recently, BTC & ETH Spot ETFs have been approved in Hong Kong, although mainland money is not allowed to flow into these products, this also shows the development of the crypto experiment, suggesting optimistic responses from the mainland about crypto and it is very likely that China will soon allow crypto trading activities on the mainland.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on April 30, 2024, 12:35:02 PM
You are right, theoretically, as more countries want to adopt Bitcoin, its popularity will increase and trading will definitely become more active, which will result in prices possibly also increasing. China has banned it because the mining that takes place there really disrupts the ecosystem in their country, but if we want to accept it now, it will be because there are other elements that we may not yet know about.
Hopefully, this is good news, not just increasing the popularity of others.

Its price will increase because the success of Bitcoin is highly concerned with supply and demand so with increasing demand Bitcoin will become lower in numbers which will increase its worth because previous things are limited in number and increased in price.

China will accept Bitcoin because nobody can ignore the success of Bitcoin and everyone wants to choose a successful platform to make their economy better. If there exist some disadvantages then advantages are also there due to which we have to accept it and further work is needed to minimize its harmful effects as every problem has a certain solution.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Uruhara on April 30, 2024, 01:00:11 PM
Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.
There is a lot of talk about something like this which is also very good at building hype itself. because if a discussion is being held here about this then in other places the same discussion may also be taking place. And yes, this hype is what sometimes drives adoption itself.
And talking about China, of course this increasingly advanced economic country always attracts global attention nowadays. so every policy always attracts a lot of media news. So there's no mistaking it if China starts supporting crypto then it will be quite hype news. but yeah that won't make prices rise rapidly. Maybe a few percent increase is possible. And slowly returning to normal after the hype is over.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yohananaomi on May 02, 2024, 06:23:51 AM
Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.
There is a lot of talk about something like this which is also very good at building hype itself. because if a discussion is being held here about this then in other places the same discussion may also be taking place. And yes, this hype is what sometimes drives adoption itself.
And talking about China, of course this increasingly advanced economic country always attracts global attention nowadays. so every policy always attracts a lot of media news. So there's no mistaking it if China starts supporting crypto then it will be quite hype news. but yeah that won't make prices rise rapidly. Maybe a few percent increase is possible. And slowly returning to normal after the hype is over.
We cannot deny that China is a large country and has a very rapidly developing economy, so any news about that country will make a contribution to what is reported, as well as the question of the return of bitcoin may return there, so this news will inevitably make a big contribution to the development of bitcoin itself.
Hopefully, this is not just news, but will indeed be enforced because up to now, it has only been heard as news, but there has been no official decision. With just the news there has been a contribution made, moreover it will be determined later. Of course, we will see this contribution to the development of Bitcoin in the future.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: Rubel007 on May 02, 2024, 06:58:56 AM
Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.
The Chinese government's attitude towards crypto won't change so easily. But if that changes, it could lead to a revolution in cryptocurrency. But what I understand is why crypto is being discouraged in that country. It has now become a diplomatic issue. Since the US has a positive view on crypto, the Chinese government will never take it positively. This is the main problem. But if the Chinese government were to favor its country's miners, the country would benefit the most from crypto and add a new dimension to cryptocurrencies. I hope that the attitude of the government of that country will definitely change in the future.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: MrSpasybo on May 04, 2024, 09:39:44 PM
The Chinese government's attitude towards crypto won't change so easily. But if that changes, it could lead to a revolution in cryptocurrency. But what I understand is why crypto is being discouraged in that country. It has now become a diplomatic issue. Since the US has a positive view on crypto, the Chinese government will never take it positively. This is the main problem. But if the Chinese government were to favor its country's miners, the country would benefit the most from crypto and add a new dimension to cryptocurrencies. I hope that the attitude of the government of that country will definitely change in the future.
I don't think China wants to confront the US in all areas, including crypto. The Cold War is long over, and the current goal of each country is to develop its own economy and technology to have a greater say in global affairs. In addition, China has been unsympathetic to crypto since 2017, at a time when the US was not yet strongly supporting or accepting crypto as it is now. Similarly, if a CBDC is passed in the US, while I don't want to see this happen, China would not abandon its e-CNY, which it is widely testing.

I think China banned crypto because it can affect the power of the government, which is a taboo in a communist country. However, crypto is currently accepted in Hong Kong, which I see as a test case for China to make easier decisions in the future.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: yohananaomi on May 08, 2024, 08:31:56 AM
The Chinese government's attitude towards crypto won't change so easily. But if that changes, it could lead to a revolution in cryptocurrency. But what I understand is why crypto is being discouraged in that country. It has now become a diplomatic issue. Since the US has a positive view on crypto, the Chinese government will never take it positively. This is the main problem. But if the Chinese government were to favor its country's miners, the country would benefit the most from crypto and add a new dimension to cryptocurrencies. I hope that the attitude of the government of that country will definitely change in the future.
China has experienced times when it accepted crypto, but due to environmentally damaging mining reasons and other issues, ultimately banned it from being accepted. Maybe it's certain that they want to be able to master or control crypto, especially Bitcoin, but they can't do it and this is a problem in itself for the future of crypto development in their country. So, because their country's system is that power rests with the state, no one will be able to intervene in any decision made by the highest leadership, in contrast to European/US countries which may be flexible in dealing with crypto.
We believe that one day China will be able to accept crypto again, but it's not easy to know when that will happen.
Title: Re: If China soon welcomes crypto: strong bullrun?
Post by: bayu7adi on May 08, 2024, 08:49:30 AM
China has experienced times when it accepted crypto, but due to environmentally damaging mining reasons and other issues, ultimately banned it from being accepted. Maybe it's certain that they want to be able to master or control crypto, especially Bitcoin, but they can't do it and this is a problem in itself for the future of crypto development in their country. So, because their country's system is that power rests with the state, no one will be able to intervene in any decision made by the highest leadership, in contrast to European/US countries which may be flexible in dealing with crypto.
We believe that one day China will be able to accept crypto again, but it's not easy to know when that will happen.
Until now, the CBDC that China is testing is the only clue regarding China's opinion about cryptocurrency. This country has a huge influence on the world economy, and we can only see the government's decision whether it will still accept cryptocurrency as a decentralized digital currency or not.

If they remain adamant about their CBDC under the pretext that power can still be controlled, then the history of our privacy in cryptocurrencies which prioritizes privacy without interference from third parties will be over.