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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2024, 05:57:22 PM »
But of course, it is necessary to have a second criterion other than activity to obtain a rank promotion. Most large forums do this, because activity alone cannot be evidence of the quality of publishing and the qualification of members to move to the next rank, so the presence of a system such as Karma is necessary at a later stage to promote the member’s rank. .

Yes. I agree with what you said. But then again, If I am not wrong, Altcoinstalks wasn't like this always. I guess there was a time when members were able to rank up without earning karma. So, whenever someone asks the question can we rank up just by posting? The usual answer was yes. Probably the admin changed it and added some requirements in recent days when he noticed that members are now coming from a different platform. Anyway, I believe these criteria should not affect teleported users. But it does.
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2024, 05:57:22 PM »

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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2024, 06:19:02 AM »
Many of them ask repeatedly but that's the forum, we have to be patient with those who don't know the function of karma and for those who have just registered on the altcoinstalks forum.
Thank you for this topic. I recently came to the forum and I still do not know much about the karma system. Frankly, I thought that karma had a role in promoting members’ rank, but it has now become clear to me through this topic and the moderator’s answer that it is not so.

In any case, the existence of such a mysterious system gives members an incentive to do their best, regardless of whether they receive karma or not. This is what is required in the forum, for it to be a place for dialogue, discussion, and exchange of ideas among members, and not just work to increase the rank.
Now Karma using for Rank up and others purpose. We also know Bitcointalk also has marit system which uses for Ranking. But till 2017 only activists were counted for Ranking like Altcointalk.
And now karma using for many purpose in this forum. Recently i also learned that karma can be exchanged into points. So karma need not only for Rank up  karma need for many purpose. And will be more useful in future.

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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2024, 07:13:23 PM »
Till now Karma Doesn't using for ranking. We also know Bitcointalk also has marit system which uses for Ranking. But till 2017 only activists will be count for Ranking like Altcointalk. Now in Altcointalk Forum karma not using but i think in future Karma will need for Ranking like Bitcointalk Forum.
Now only Activists using to count ranking abut in future Karma will need for Ranking i strongly believe it.

Unfortunately, the future is here. karma is already required to rank up. I saw that you applied to be a mod of our local community. You have to be updated about the recent forum development as well. I would suggest you read the latest news of the forum where the admin himself already shared that there are some other requirements as well to rank up except karma. Two of them are karma and the time spent on the forum. But, as he mentioned, Karma requires for higher ranks to rank up. Maybe users need karma requirements when they are already Hero + members. BTW, the admin do not want to reveal the exact requirements.
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2024, 08:49:38 PM »
Till now Karma Doesn't using for ranking. We also know Bitcointalk also has marit system which uses for Ranking. But till 2017 only activists will be count for Ranking like Altcointalk. Now in Altcointalk Forum karma not using but i think in future Karma will need for Ranking like Bitcointalk Forum.
Now only Activists using to count ranking abut in future Karma will need for Ranking i strongly believe it.

Unfortunately, the future is here. karma is already required to rank up. I saw that you applied to be a mod of our local community. You have to be updated about the recent forum development as well. I would suggest you read the latest news of the forum where the admin himself already shared that there are some other requirements as well to rank up except karma. Two of them are karma and the time spent on the forum. But, as he mentioned, Karma requires for higher ranks to rank up. Maybe users need karma requirements when they are already Hero + members. BTW, the admin do not want to reveal the exact requirements.
Noted. Thankyou. Recently i saw Admin wrote about this.

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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2024, 11:24:12 PM »
My answer is this
activity is a value that get stuck on specific values till all conditions are met.
everything else is secret to avoid people focusing on optimizing for ranking up.

The idea of not making the requirement for a next rank public quite rocks, but what happens when a user actually meets all those criteria? Do you PM them secretly to alert them that they are now qualified for the next rank, or will they just be moved to that rank without their notice?

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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2024, 01:09:56 AM »
My answer is this
activity is a value that get stuck on specific values till all conditions are met.
everything else is secret to avoid people focusing on optimizing for ranking up.
, but what happens when a user actually meets all those criteria? Do you PM them secretly to alert them that they are now qualified for the next rank, or will they just be moved to that rank without their notice?
In my experience at altcoinstalks, I have never encountered anything like this because in the past, you didn't need karma to rise in the rankings.
Even those who write posts just to report bounties from social media such as Facebook and Twitter also immediately increase their ranking without the need for Karma.
But it seems that if the admin has made a statement like that, we no longer need to ask the admin about ranking increases, but if it is necessary to PM the admin, perhaps it should be done so that we can increase the ranking according to the criteria.
It's same like as you Teleported to altcoinstalks , simple PM to teh admin and you are aleady here.  :)
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2024, 03:19:22 PM »
The idea of not making the requirement for a next rank public quite rocks, but what happens when a user actually meets all those criteria? Do you PM them secretly to alert them that they are now qualified for the next rank, or will they just be moved to that rank without their notice?

If your account doesn't meet the criteria for the next rank, your activity will just stop increasing. When it will start increase, it means you can get the next rank as soon as your activity number will achieve the needed amount.
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2024, 05:12:17 PM »
The idea of not making the requirement for a next rank public quite rocks, but what happens when a user actually meets all those criteria? Do you PM them secretly to alert them that they are now qualified for the next rank, or will they just be moved to that rank without their notice?

Hehe. LOL Man. What a question.
I am not sure if you are kidding or not. But, isn't it obvious that when a member reaches all the criteria, they will just rank up automatically just like Bitcointalk? My rank is Sr. member on Bitcointalk due to the lack of activity. But I have earned 750 merits. Bitcointalk does not have login time requirements. So, What will happen if my activity increases up to 480? I will rank up for sure, right? So, there is no reason admin would PM someone to let them know that they meet all the criteria. I found it too funny after reading such question. LOL.
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2024, 05:41:32 PM »
If your account doesn't meet the criteria for the next rank, your activity will just stop increasing. When it will start increase, it means you can get the next rank as soon as your activity number will achieve the needed amount.
Will the activity stop due to lack of required Karma or for another reason? As far as I know, there is no such karma requirement for ranking up and admin has kept that information secret but if that's needed then how many karma one should acquire to properly rank up and what about those who make good posts but don't get enough karma for their posting?

I think the Karma should not stop someone from ranking up but surely if someone tries to take advantage of the system then the admin or the moderators should manually stop that user's activity points for a week or a month. However, I believe that if someone posts good content and make valuable posts then the system won't stop them from ranking up.
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Re: Is Karma Really Done to Increase Ranking?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2024, 06:30:50 PM »
The idea of not making the requirement for a next rank public quite rocks, but what happens when a user actually meets all those criteria? Do you PM them secretly to alert them that they are now qualified for the next rank, or will they just be moved to that rank without their notice?

Hehe. LOL Man. What a question.
I am not sure if you are kidding or not. But, isn't it obvious that when a member reaches all the criteria, they will just rank up automatically just like Bitcointalk? My rank is Sr. member on Bitcointalk due to the lack of activity. But I have earned 750 merits. Bitcointalk does not have login time requirements. So, What will happen if my activity increases up to 480? I will rank up for sure, right? So, there is no reason admin would PM someone to let them know that they meet all the criteria. I found it too funny after reading such question. LOL.

A hilarious question, right? LOL. I guess I just dropped the question for curiosity sake since the rule is that the information about some rank is secret to prevent users from being so desirous of rank alone. Before I dropped that question yesterday, I only had one thought in mind, which I did not add to my first comment. But what was the thought? Read:

There is a setting on this forum called buddy list. You can decide to add any member to your buddy list for reasons best known to you. It could be that you know the person and you decided to add them to your buddy list, or perhaps you just like the way the person contributes and you decided to add them to your list.

Now, let's assume you added a member like "Jokers" to your buddy list and you are always keeping track of his account activity, the number of karma he is earning per day, and all other stuff. If you noticed one day that his rank had automatically changed from legend to something else, would you not be able to predict what kind of activity on his account made him get that new rank? If you actually figured out what happened, then you have learned the hidden secrets. Hehe...

 

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