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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #150 on: April 16, 2024, 11:37:29 PM »
Odds are in for the 1st June, UFC 302 event:

Islam Makhachev x1.25 Vs Dustin Poirier x3.80

Sean Strickland x1.41 Vs Paolo Costa x2.80

And for the 22nd June, UFC 303:

Conor McGregor x1.85 Vs Michael Chandler x1.96

I think the payout rate for Chandler is very generous. Thoughts?

it must be worth for Chandler, he waited not to fight someone else for over a year. missed a lot off opportunity because he waited for Connor. and i think he will win as well. Connor not fighting for a long time and him getting fatter means he is rustier than ever. if Chandler couldn't win against him standing, Chandler can always choose to baddest strategy which is to kick that broken leg.

Strickland despite his mental breakdown, i think the guy is still a badass. the odds is telling so but he should stop his social media presence.

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« Reply #150 on: April 16, 2024, 11:37:29 PM »

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #151 on: April 17, 2024, 10:28:38 AM »
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #152 on: April 17, 2024, 04:24:52 PM »
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.

Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #153 on: April 17, 2024, 10:37:27 PM »
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.

Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.

Islam is like Khabib, Dustin will not see him fight on foot. Dustin just attempting to throw a punch, Islam will duck to grab him.  but we have seen Islam knocked down before who knows what could happen.

UFC 302 is a fight night of grappling.  looking into the fight card, most fighters are grapplers which iff ever i bet, i would likely choose win by submission. anyway there's still 301 to watch.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #154 on: April 18, 2024, 09:10:30 AM »
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.
Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.
Everyone knows he has loads of experience. He certainly had more fight experience by the time he fought Khabib and when he faced Oliveira but still got submitted. I'm sure he also prepared some strategy before he fought those two but we already know what happened. The whole point is that it's just a bad match up for him.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #155 on: April 18, 2024, 11:35:53 PM »
Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.
I am not writing Dustin off but Makhachev is something like Khabib 2 and I dont think he is going to lose this fight.
Dustin has reach advantage but he lost from Khabib, Gaethje and Oliveira so there are many holes in his game play that Makhachev can use.
I think this fight ending in first round could be a good bet.
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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #156 on: April 19, 2024, 12:04:02 AM »
Islam is like Khabib, Dustin will not see him fight on foot. Dustin just attempting to throw a punch, Islam will duck to grab him.  but we have seen Islam knocked down before who knows what could happen.

He got KOes only once in his professional career and he seemed to learned his lesson from that.
Wrestling/grappling is Islam's strongest side but I don't expect he'll go straight for the takedown. He would have to engage Dustin in a stand up to make him over-commit to the strikes to set up a good opportunity to take it to the ground.
And the way MMA has evolved, it's way harder to just take someone to the ground, hold them there, and submit them. Especially on the highest level. An average fighter is much better in takedown defense and in avoiding submissions or ground and pound then they used to be.
As for Islam, he's getting more and more confident in his striking, as evidenced e.g. by his KO on Volkanovski. He will definitely not shy away from exchanging at least a little bit with Poirier.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2024, 10:25:45 PM »
I forgot to say after UFC 300 that UFC fighter Renato Moicano in post fight interview asked to be paid in Bitcoin and he called fans to study Bitcoin more!
He is one of the top MMA fighters in Lightweight category and he has very interesting nickname Money Moicano  ;D
I dont know if Dana will accept his request but UFC is working with some crypto companies, so it is not impossible to happen.
https://decrypt.co/226622/ufc-fighter-moicano-mises-bitcoin
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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #158 on: April 21, 2024, 12:24:48 AM »
I forgot to say after UFC 300 that UFC fighter Renato Moicano in post fight interview asked to be paid in Bitcoin and he called fans to study Bitcoin more!
He is one of the top MMA fighters in Lightweight category and he has very interesting nickname Money Moicano  ;D
I dont know if Dana will accept his request but UFC is working with some crypto companies, so it is not impossible to happen.
https://decrypt.co/226622/ufc-fighter-moicano-mises-bitcoin

Lol, his post-fight interview made me laugh. He didn't mention Bitcoin there (he did so on Twitter after the fight) but this quote should be legendary:
"If you care about your f**king country, read Ludwig von Mises and the Six Lessons of the Austrian Economic School, motherf**kers"

He sure knows how to capture the audience  ;D

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #159 on: April 24, 2024, 12:50:07 AM »
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April):



In the main event, we'll see Matheus Nicolau (currently ranked 5th in the Flyweight) fighting against Alex Perez (ranked 8th).
Nicolau is a favourite with odds at x1.53. Could be interesting.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #160 on: April 25, 2024, 12:03:41 AM »
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April)
I am not interested in most of the fights in this fight card, and it looks to boring to me.
There are two or three fights I might watched later as recording, but nothing that would make me stay up to watch the entire event.
This happens sometimes after big fight cards like it was with UFC 300.
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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #161 on: April 26, 2024, 10:34:59 PM »
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April)
I am not interested in most of the fights in this fight card, and it looks to boring to me.
There are two or three fights I might watched later as recording, but nothing that would make me stay up to watch the entire event.
This happens sometimes after big fight cards like it was with UFC 300.

UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2024, 12:29:09 AM »
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

It's impossible to have high-profile events every week or two, so those fight nights act, as you said, as "fillers" just to give something to watch to MMA connoisseurs and it's a good opportunity for lesser fighters to build their name and get experience in fighting on a 5-rounds distance.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.

Islam can't complain about lack of worthy opponents. He's fighting Dustin soon, then (assuming he wins) most likely will face Tsarukyan, after that he'll fight whoever emerges to the top, I'm hoping for Gamrot, but there's also Max Holloway or even Conor as possible options. Or maybe, if Topuria doesn't disappoint, they could do a super-fight between them.

Anyhow, Islam said he wants to fight 3 times a year and it looks like the UFC is keen on that too, so we might see him fighting quite often.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #163 on: April 27, 2024, 11:35:01 PM »
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

It's impossible to have high-profile events every week or two, so those fight nights act, as you said, as "fillers" just to give something to watch to MMA connoisseurs and it's a good opportunity for lesser fighters to build their name and get experience in fighting on a 5-rounds distance.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.

Islam can't complain about lack of worthy opponents. He's fighting Dustin soon, then (assuming he wins) most likely will face Tsarukyan, after that he'll fight whoever emerges to the top, I'm hoping for Gamrot, but there's also Max Holloway or even Conor as possible options. Or maybe, if Topuria doesn't disappoint, they could do a super-fight between them.

Anyhow, Islam said he wants to fight 3 times a year and it looks like the UFC is keen on that too, so we might see him fighting quite often.

3 times a year seem fair. but when its time to move up, he should go out risking himself like Max. a 2nd chance for Tsarukyan is fair.

anyway, ever heard the rumor about Jones being Gay? so funny that i'm just curious to know if there is truth to it. Jones seem to be suing MMAGuru for this claim but he had been doing this claim for days already but this time he has a video of Jones drunk.

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Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
« Reply #164 on: April 27, 2024, 11:41:38 PM »
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.
UFC 301 is much fight card better, this is no brainer.
Main event is Flyweight Championship title fight Pantoja vs Erceg, than we have José Aldo in his last fight in the UFC contract in co-main event.
Anthony Smith is always interesting to watch, and there are other interesting fights, much more interesting than this week event.
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