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Marketplace => Gambling & Crypto Casinos => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: electronicash on April 16, 2024, 11:15:07 PM
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
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If it's about sportsbetting, why not? I don't see anything wrong with it. The question is how much are you willing to collect for that strategy. I'm pretty sure there are gamblers who follow free picks of some gambling pros but they only get the surface level predictions. Those who are serious gamblers would probably pay for a subscription and share a percentage if they win.
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Never!
I won't sell my betting or trading strategy, why?
Because not everyone who can comfortably used your trading strategies and, also not everyone who can comfortably used your betting strategy and becomes successful in their field of gambling and trading.
It's all about luck and chances, whenever your strategy keeps working for you and you decided to sell it out to people have you considered if that strategy are being found as violation in other gambling site or what is that strategy didn't work correctly in other website and it happens that the person in questions began to lose what do you think would be your name?
Scammer or cheater who sells out strategies that doesn't work for other people and you think you would have a good name over the forum or media? No!
So it's just good I drop it over there, when you try and it works for you fine then you may decides to appreciate (Donates) the free strategy you have gotten from me but not under compulsion neither is it mandatory for them to do so.
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Selling of betting strategy depends on ones personal conviction. If one feels his or her strategy could be able to earn others good returns then maybe one can think of doing it for others to see how they feel about it.
However, not everyone can be able to adopt or adapt to strategies they are not convinced of. Maybe a try or test could prove some point for then to see and know what is obtainable.
In some cases, after some might have used it for a test and it does not go down well with them, the return back with ill feelings about the whole thing and turns it down to be null and void.
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Any strategy fails in the long run, so essentially you are trying to profit from something that will lead to others misfortune. If you are ok with someone getting screwed over your strategy, then sell away. If you have a conscience, then don't sell.
If you genuinely want to help others make a few bucks and think your strat will help, share it and if they make money maybe they'll tip you. Don't expect anything though
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For a price? Not quite sure, if anything goes wrong all blames would be on you even when you explicitly state something might go wrong. The more people that knows or uses a strategy the higher the chances of the strategy failing. A good strategy shouldn't be too rigid, it should undergo some improvement as market changes. I can share my winning strategy with friends and family for free but not going to share to the public whether for free or a price.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
80% winnings of your bets is such a high percentage, just imagine 100 gamblers playing in one casino it could bankrupt that casino or the method will be flagged or they might change the setting or algo, and that method will become obsolete.
If you have a method better keep it to yourself the sales of the method is nothing compared to what you will gain from using the method, until a casino flag that method.
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I believe that nobody in clear mind would share anything that make others rich. People are greedy and selfish about everything that has any connection with money. Only few would really share something, but only when they have grabbed enough for themselves. Sell winning strategy. It even sounds ridiculous. Why would somebody sell strategy for money, if it is used to make money? Such person would rather use his strategy to get money, then sell it for money. For me this sounds something like selling $1 for a price of <$1.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Yes I will. This actually happened to me some years ago and I know some of you here are familiar with Peko game I personally discovered something like a trick that gave me 100% of winning like a 5 times winning streak on my strategy after that I shared it to my group and it helps them as well unfortunately the app came to an end I just earned $100 from it before it shutdown. Though I think it is not gambling but I will surely share tricks so everybody will experience the same winnings especially in gambling.
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Even if we assume equal odds, that would still be a 60% revenue on your betting funds in a cycle.
Just the math for doing something like this continuously for even a small timeframe is insane, you would gain x10 in 5 cycles, so what would be the point in selling it?
And giving away a bulletproof strategy for free means everyone will do the same which will end with nobody winning a thing in the end since you can't make money without others losing some.
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Previously I had never calculated my winning percentage in gambling. And to be honest, the number you said (80%) is a very high number in terms of winning percentage. On the other hand, I don't think the winning percentage is more than 50% because I lose more often than I win.
I guess, even if it was true that I had a winning percentage that high, then I wouldn't sell the strategy. Because maybe that strategy suits me but not for other people.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Maybe casino strategy last longer as players makes more money but I know for sure that Sports strategy are neutralize quickly by casino when they observed that a player is winning every time. What they do is that when a player is winning a particular sports consistently, they increased the lower line which means that they reduced the probability of the player winning and it become difficult for players to win those games. With this, if casino found out that plenty of bets are won from a strategy, the casino can stop the strategy. So it's wise to share a winning strategy in my opinion.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Maybe casino strategy last longer as players makes more money but I know for sure that Sports strategy are neutralize quickly by casino when they observed that a player is winning every time. What they do is that when a player is winning a particular sports consistently, they increased the lower line which means that they reduced the probability of the player winning and it become difficult for players to win those games. With this, if casino found out that plenty of bets are won from a strategy, the casino can stop the strategy. So it's wise to share a winning strategy in my opinion.
if its a legit no cheat strategy i don't think a casino can neutralize something. yet if its true that when a casino notice that plenty of bets are won they will neutralize the user then the more reason for him not to share the strategy.
but lets say its a real legit strategy which anyone with a basic knowledge how betting works can make money with such strategy and casino will not look at it as cheating, how much will you buy for the strategy in ebook?
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
No, I will just keep the winning strategy for myself, not that I don't want to share it, but let's say if you sell it and it didn't make money for others as everyone is different, then they might call your strategy scam or not working.
So it's better to just keep it yourself, regardless if it is sports betting, or card games or roulette. And if it effective for you then just continue with what you are doing until that winning strategy breaks.
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
It depends... or maybe yes. :D
If selling my own strategy will not affect my winnings, then I guess there's nothing wrong in selling it, right? As long as there will be buyers who are willing to buy it. The only problem is how the buyers will think. They might think that the strategy will work 100% of the time even though you said that it will only works 80%.
With the 20% mistakes that they can make using your strategy, that might cause them a huge amount of money hence, calling your strategy a "fluke" or worse, they might call you a scammer. :D Hmmm, I guess I will not sell it in the end. :D.
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
I would not care to sell it as bookies might notice this and will might ban me and those who bought my strategy hehe. If the reason for selling is to earn money then earn money from betting and not selling the strategy.
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Why not 😁😁
I mean, if someone is willing to buy and take my suggested price, why not? Having a statistic showing the result of an 80%-win rate is too high. And if someone is tempted to know my strategy and wants to make a deal, that's something we can talk about in private ;)
However, there should be a disclaimer that the strategy is effective for me, if anything bad happens or if the strategy is not effective for that individual, it's not something to be blamed for me.
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If I am able to figure out a technique where someone else can definitely benefit from using the technique then there is no harm in exchanging that technique by money. Although there are no guarantees when it comes to betting, with approximately 70 percent of the bets going in my favor, I think the strategy would be worth giving away. But there are many who use such techniques which result not as expected. I have ideas about gambling but can't make any guarantees to anyone that they can profit.
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would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Selling my strategy is an opportunity to make money, and since selling my strategy may not affect my chances of winning, there is no harm. It is better to make profit rather than share the strategy for free.
If it is PvP games, and sharing my strategy will mean giving my opponent the upper hand and reduce my chance of winning, I will keep it to myself until maybe I have developed a better strategy more effective than my current strategy..
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Having that 80% of your bets to win would make me want to take advantage of all the casinos. Whether it's online, land-based, or any type of game that it works on. It's important that I would only have that and not let others get it patched. It's just not worth the share if it will get discovered.
Maybe for a big price? I doubt they will believe it though.
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if its a legit no cheat strategy i don't think a casino can neutralize something. yet if its true that when a casino notice that plenty of bets are won they will neutralize the user then the more reason for him not to share the strategy.
Every strategy needs to have a pattern, it will be at some point repetitive and any casino or sports bookie will be able to neutralize it, especially if it's that effective, it's either go bankrupt or refuse bets. So, pretty easy once you do, and the algorithm nowadays can scan your 10-year bet history and find out any possible pattern in it, after all it's just a bunch of numbers.
Casinos will just change the number of deck cards, increase the numbers in roulette, and change the rates on slots, sports bookies will get an alarm for each bet that falls into that and will limit the amount you can bet on it, it would be pretty easy to do so. And for only betting it would be also done stealthy, they would need to limit just some certain bets for certain users.
but lets say its a real legit strategy which anyone with a basic knowledge how betting works can make money with such strategy and casino will not look at it as cheating, how much will you buy for the strategy in ebook?
I'm more curious how many red tags would someone offering such a thing would get in 24 hours. ;D
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Let's say it really depends on your goals and the implications of sharing your strategy. If this strategy truly has an 80% win rate, it's a valuable asset. Sharing it for a price could be a good way to capitalize on my discovery, especially if it could benefit others without significantly impacting my own returns. However, widely distributing a successful strategy could potentially lead to market adjustments that might decrease its effectiveness over time. So, it's also worth considering keeping it to myself to maintain its advantage. Ultimately, the decision comes down to whether I value potential earnings from selling the strategy more than the potential risk of diluting its effectiveness.
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if its a legit no cheat strategy i don't think a casino can neutralize something. yet if its true that when a casino notice that plenty of bets are won they will neutralize the user then the more reason for him not to share the strategy.
Every strategy needs to have a pattern, it will be at some point repetitive and any casino or sports bookie will be able to neutralize it, especially if it's that effective, it's either go bankrupt or refuse bets. So, pretty easy once you do, and the algorithm nowadays can scan your 10-year bet history and find out any possible pattern in it, after all it's just a bunch of numbers.
Casinos will just change the number of deck cards, increase the numbers in roulette, and change the rates on slots, sports bookies will get an alarm for each bet that falls into that and will limit the amount you can bet on it, it would be pretty easy to do so. And for only betting it would be also done stealthy, they would need to limit just some certain bets for certain users.
but lets say its a real legit strategy which anyone with a basic knowledge how betting works can make money with such strategy and casino will not look at it as cheating, how much will you buy for the strategy in ebook?
I'm more curious how many red tags would someone offering such a thing would get in 24 hours. ;D
that's also one thing that also prevents them from sharing. especially if it didn't work for them.
there is one incident that i noticed upon executing one strategy that i learn when i doubled my money, the casino didn't presented me some good matches in that sport for few hours. i wonder if they already noticed how fast i profited. almost double as short period of time so i was curious to know if viewing the casino with another account will be different. somehow it reminds me that i could be charged with multi account and lock my funds.
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For one to sell their winning strategy means they have mastered gambling, and they win quite often. Someone who doesn't win often in gambling wouldn't dare to do that. Since my winning in gambling is once a while, selling my winning strategy is no to me because I won't like to create problems for myself by giving people wrong predictions and collecting money from them in the name of gambling to win with my strategy that doesn't work
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
I'd totally share the strategy. Honestly, it feels good to help others out, you know? It’s really about spreading the love and helping the community. Making money off it isn’t my thing—I’d rather just see other folks succeed too.
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there is one incident that i noticed upon executing one strategy that i learn when i doubled my money, the casino didn't presented me some good matches in that sport for few hours. i wonder if they already noticed how fast i profited. almost double as short period of time so i was curious to know if viewing the casino with another account will be different. somehow it reminds me that i could be charged with multi account and lock my funds.
If you were doing for example arbitrage betting it's happening to a lot of users, as I said there are hundreds of checks done by bots to analyze your history for gambling, and they have internal information that you might not even be aware f, such as comparing your winning odds to the lowest on the market or the highest at any point and so on.
Any out of the ordinary winning betting strategy on a website will be identified in minutes, of course, they will react, if not banning you at least restricting the matches or restricting the amount you can bet/win.
So what would you do with a strategy that earns you 80% when you can make only 3$ bets 10 times a day?
One hour of flipping hamburgers.
I know a real case when a really large betting site (I won't name it but it is not crypto related) banned one of my bookmarked punters for taking bets 5 minutes before the race because he would always bet against horses, he was in the parade ring, he had an eye for it and he would know from a few glances what's wrong with one of those, so they banned him despite not breaking any rule, being totally legit. Of course, he was gambling hundreds on 1/7 2/6 maximum but it was still legit, yet they did ban him.
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Usually, winning strategies are sold when they stop working or when the gains from selling the strategies outweigh the losses on them. If a strategy is held by many, there is always the risk that some countermeasure will be found against it - or that it will stop producing results
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and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
I would not care to sell it as bookies might notice this and will might ban me and those who bought my strategy hehe. If the reason for selling is to earn money then earn money from betting and not selling the strategy.
Well yeah also one good or not even the vest choice so the system won't recognize suspicious activity on your account because if we share then it will become more obvious and some other gamblers will also abuse the trick so better to stay out of sight.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
Actually it is impossible to sell your own strategy because people do not get well by selling strategy. But be it a trading platform or a gambling platform there is nothing to sell strategy here if you can do good and proper analysis then you don't need to buy strategy. For example, when you place a bet on a gambling platform, you participate in gambling with a cool head. Again in the trading platform, if one can engage in trading by understanding the volatility of the market in the correct market analysis, then the success of the trading platform is obtained. In this case, there is nothing to sell the trading strategy. I never agree to buy or sell anyone's trading strategy because I will learn by my own efforts and participate in betting and trading by my own efforts on the trading platform because nothing is impossible for human beings, human beings can definitely achieve anything if they try.
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Actually it is impossible to sell your own strategy because people do not get well by selling strategy. But be it a trading platform or a gambling platform there is nothing to sell strategy here if you can do good and proper analysis then you don't need to buy strategy. For example, when you place a bet on a gambling platform, you participate in gambling with a cool head. Again in the trading platform, if one can engage in trading by understanding the volatility of the market in the correct market analysis, then the success of the trading platform is obtained. In this case, there is nothing to sell the trading strategy. I never agree to buy or sell anyone's trading strategy because I will learn by my own efforts and participate in betting and trading by my own efforts on the trading platform because nothing is impossible for human beings, human beings can definitely achieve anything if they try.
By the way, it is not uncommon for a strategy that works for some to stop working for others. The reason is that there are other factors that are not taken into account in the strategy, including experience, intuition and determination. Often you have to restrain yourself, but not everyone knows how to do that
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Actually it is impossible to sell your own strategy because people do not get well by selling strategy. But be it a trading platform or a gambling platform there is nothing to sell strategy here if you can do good and proper analysis then you don't need to buy strategy. For example, when you place a bet on a gambling platform, you participate in gambling with a cool head. Again in the trading platform, if one can engage in trading by understanding the volatility of the market in the correct market analysis, then the success of the trading platform is obtained. In this case, there is nothing to sell the trading strategy. I never agree to buy or sell anyone's trading strategy because I will learn by my own efforts and participate in betting and trading by my own efforts on the trading platform because nothing is impossible for human beings, human beings can definitely achieve anything if they try.
By the way, it is not uncommon for a strategy that works for some to stop working for others. The reason is that there are other factors that are not taken into account in the strategy, including experience, intuition and determination. Often you have to restrain yourself, but not everyone knows how to do that
that is also true. the problem in selling the strategy in ebook though is that no one is stopping someone from sharing it and anyone who bought it could just give it to someone and the next day everyone is using the strategy and the casino might just took action to the strategy.
but i think anyone who have been gambling for awhile could have seen this strategy. when a gambler loses every time, they manage to look for ways to win and the experience and determination will be stronger every time they lose.
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There is nothing wrong with giving the strategy that you have in my opinion because basically every gambling game provides its own benefits, not all strategies can be applied and provide benefits in my opinion,
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If I am successful in gambling with a strategy and if sharing that strategy with others will benefit other gamblers and if there is no loss for me then of course I have no objection to share my strategy with others. There is no reason to object in this case because I am not harmed if another gambler is benefiting from my strategy. If it was the case that sharing my strategy with another gambler would harm my gambling, I would never share my strategy with another person. I am always ready to share this strategy with others, as my strategy does not harm me but benefits others.
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If I am successful in gambling with a strategy and if sharing that strategy with others will benefit other gamblers and if there is no loss for me then of course I have no objection to share my strategy with others. There is no reason to object in this case because I am not harmed if another gambler is benefiting from my strategy. If it was the case that sharing my strategy with another gambler would harm my gambling, I would never share my strategy with another person. I am always ready to share this strategy with others, as my strategy does not harm me but benefits others.
I totally agree with you because if someone else can benefit from my strategy on the gambling platform then I will definitely share my strategy with him and I will have no problem. But yes if there is a problem then I will never share my trick with anyone. One thing that never perishes in life is knowledge. Now if I am very wise then no one can share my knowledge but people can benefit from my knowledge. So it is important to gain experience and knowledge yourself but it is more important to benefit people from your knowledge.
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If I am successful in gambling with a strategy and if sharing that strategy with others will benefit other gamblers and if there is no loss for me then of course I have no objection to share my strategy with others. There is no reason to object in this case because I am not harmed if another gambler is benefiting from my strategy. If it was the case that sharing my strategy with another gambler would harm my gambling, I would never share my strategy with another person. I am always ready to share this strategy with others, as my strategy does not harm me but benefits others.
You are right, we are never harmed if we share our strategies with other people, in fact we help them to win from gambling. For me sharing it for free makes me feel useful.
But the problem is, does this strategy really exist? I think we're just talking about something that seems impossible here. Because until now I have never found anyone who was successful with their strategy, and even if someone said they succeeded in winning with their strategy, it was only once and if it was once I considered it as luck.
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First of all, discovering a betting strategy that enables you to win 80% of your bet isn't something that's easy or something we see all the time so if I'm able to discover something like that, someone is willing to pay me to have access to my strategy, i see no reason why I'd keep it to myself.
Ordinarily, I'm not the kind of person that hides or keep success to myself, I'd normally give share it to my friends for free so seeing someone who'd be willing to pay me for what I can be able to give out for free is a bonus for me. So yes I wouldn't mind selling my strategy for good sum.
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been in a forum where everyone is trying to monetize what they have been doing online and i found one selling his trading strategy, it is different from betting strategy of course but just assuming you found a betting strategy of your own. you think its just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?
why not, I will share my winning strategies for money, because my strategy make me earn money, so if I sell it for money, I will make more money for that reason I will sell my strategy.
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You are right, we are never harmed if we share our strategies with other people, in fact we help them to win from gambling. For me sharing it for free makes me feel useful.
Why sell it for free if you can make more money out of it? Strategies such as that where other people can benefit from what you discover, means you need to make money for yourself too. Because if you don't, other people (who you teach this strategy) will be the ones to think of making money from it.
But the problem is, does this strategy really exist? I think we're just talking about something that seems impossible here. Because until now I have never found anyone who was successful with their strategy, and even if someone said they succeeded in winning with their strategy, it was only once and if it was once I considered it as luck.
For now, there's no such strategy where you can win with an accuracy of 80% for any strategy. But the question is just an assumption that if ever you discover a strategy that has a winning rate.
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you found a betting strategy of your own. you think it's just you who discovers it.
and to sum it all up your strategy makes you win 80% of your bets. would you share the strategy to someone for a price or not?