follow us on twitter . like us on facebook . follow us on instagram . subscribe to our youtube channel . announcements on telegram channel . ask urgent question ONLY . Subscribe to our reddit . Altcoins Talks Shop Shop


This is an Ad. Advertised sites are not endorsement by our Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise Here

Author Topic: This is How Risky it is to trade futures - over $1, 148, 000 Lost in one night  (Read 898 times)

Online Faisal2202

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 819
  • points:
    41332
  • Karma: 63
  • Mixero: Privacy by XMR (Monero) bridge
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 05:19:43 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 14
    Badges: (View All)
    500 Posts Search Poll Voter
You are absolutely correct, Binance is said to have a mechanism that ensures that only 83% percent a user's funds gets liquidiated in times of like this when a user loses a trade completely without a stop loss, so this is why the user received back 17% of the total amount he lost, this is definitely small when compared to how much was lost, but it's still way better than nothing at all, and also, it's a good foundation for the user to start over with.
Oh ok, I did not know about this feature until the OP post, so, you are saying we only get %17 when we don't set stop loss and all of our funds get liquidated. Or no-stop loss and such instant dump situations can give %17 funds back. Thanks for the Karma. It keeps the spirits up.

And no doubt the funds are small in compared to what he has lost but still he has something in his hands to start his journey again. I hope he will be okay now, although I did not hear any news from Binance's side, as they might use this case as publicity but they did not. Or my thoughts are a little small due to a lack of knowledge.
If that is so that they have 83% of user funds liquidated then is a good thing but is best for people who uses huge funds and trades overnight should capitalise the habit of using SL
You are right, but I doubt the fact that this feature is only for those who have huge funds, I mean if that's the case then it's not a good thing, this feature should be given to the poor or the ones with lower funds too.
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████████
░░░██████░░░░░░░░█████████████
░░░██████░░░░░░░░█████████████
░░░██████░░░░░░░░█████████████
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████████
░░░░░░█████████░░█████████████
░░░░░░█████████
░░░░░░█████████
░░░░░░█████████░░░░█████████
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████
████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████
████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████
██████████████████████████████
█████████▀▀███▀▀░░▀▀▀█████████
███████▀░░█▀░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████
██████░░░██░░▄█▀▀░░░░░▀▀██████
█████░░░░█░░███████▄▄▄░░░▀████
███░██░░░█▄████████▄░▀█▄░░░███
███░░██░░░███████████░░▀█▄░███
████░░▀██▄▄████████░██░░░█▄███
█████░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀██░░██░░░█████
███████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█▀░░░▄█░░░██████
████████▀▀▀▀░░░░░░██░░▄███████
██████████▄▄▄▄▄████▄██████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
MIXERO.IO
.
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
████
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
██████████████████████████████
███████▀▀██░▀█████████████████
████████░░█░█▀▀░██████████████
████████░░▀░░░▄███████████████
██████▀░░░░░░░░░▀██████░▀█████
████▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░██▀▀█▄░░████
████░░░░░░░░░░░▄████▄░▀██░░███
████░░░░░░░░░▄██▀░▄██░░██░░███
█████░░░░░░▄██▀████▀░░██░░████
███████▄▄▄████▄░░░░▄██▀░░█████
███████████░░▀▀▀██▀▀▀░░▄██████
██████████████▄▄▄▄▄▄██████████
██████████████████████████████
..
..
..
..
████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
MIX.NOW
.
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
████
█████████████
█████████████
░░░░░░░░░██████
█████████████░░░░██░░░██████
█████████████░░░░░░░░░██████
█████████████
█████████████░░█████████
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█████████
░░█████████░░░░█████████
░░█████████
░░█████████░░░██░░░░░░░░░░████
░░█████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████

Altcoins Talks - Cryptocurrency Forum


This is an Ad. Advertised sites are not endorsement by our Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise Here Ads bidding Bidding Open


Offline Mr. Magkaisa

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 779
  • points:
    44188
  • Karma: 25
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: May 02, 2024, 02:30:39 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 14
    Badges: (View All)
    500 Posts Poll Voter Quick Poster
            -  It seems like he has been saving it for a few years in the crypto space, and it is likely that the things he has saved are also from his earnings here in the crypto business that we live in. That's a lot of money. Didn't he put a stop loss on what he did?

Because if there is a stop loss, it's just where he set it, and that's the only loss that can be deducted from his balance? But thankfully, he still has a balance in his Binance account; we just don't know why. But even so, $180,000 is still a huge amount for him to start over.

Online Charles-Tim

  • Legendary
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1586
  • points:
    35654
  • Karma: 47
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 05:23:11 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 15
    Badges: (View All)
    Poll Voter Karma Bad Karma Good
            -  It seems like he has been saving it for a few years in the crypto space, and it is likely that the things he has saved are also from his earnings here in the crypto business that we live in. That's a lot of money. Didn't he put a stop loss on what he did?
I do not think he used stop loss. Know that trading is beyond using stop loss. With huge amount of money, low risky trading is better which is spot trading.

Because if there is a stop loss, it's just where he set it, and that's the only loss that can be deducted from his balance? But thankfully, he still has a balance in his Binance account; we just don't know why. But even so, $180,000 is still a huge amount for him to start over.
The person will be depressed if he has no much more than that. He needs also not to start all over again because he will likely lose all the money if he continues to trade. He should just hold instead.
             ▄▄█████████▄▄
    ▄█████▄█████████████████▄
  ▄███████████████████████████▄
 ████████████████▄▀▀███████████
▄███████████████████ ▀█████████
█████████████▀▀      ▐█████
████████████        ▄██████
▀███████████▌     ██████████▀
 █████
███████      ▀▀▀█████▀  █
  ███████████▄         ▀▀▀ ▄▄█
   ▀████████████▄▄▄   ▄▄▄███▀
     ▀▀██████████████████▀▀
         ▀▀▀████████▀▀▀

UniJoin.io   Your CoinJoin Mixer
▄▄██████▄▄
▄██████▀██████▄
▄███▀▀▀░░░▀▀▀███▄
▄███░░░▄███▄░░░███▄
████░░████▀▄█░░████
████░░█▄▀▄███░░████
▀████░░▀███▀░░████▀
▀████▄░░░░░▄████▀
▀█████▄▄▄█████▀
▀▀█████▀▀
NO LOGS
▄▄██████▄▄
▄█████▀▀▀█████▄
▄████▌░▄▄▄░▐████▄
▄█████░▀░░░█░█████▄
██████▌░░█▀░▐██████
███████▄░▄░▄███████
▀████▀░░░░░░░▀████▀
▀██▌░░░░░░░░░▐██▀
▀██▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄██▀
▀▀█████▀▀
NO SIGN-UP
████████████████████████
█████████████▀▄▀████████
████████████▀▄█████████
██████████▀▌▄██████████
██████████▌███████████
█████████▀▄███▀█████████
██████▀▄▄██████▀███████
█████▀▄█▀▄████████████
██████▀▄█▌▐████▐█████
█████▌▐█▀▌▐█████▐█████
██████████████▄██████
███████▄▄██████▄████████
████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
MIX ՈOW.
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████

Online Stompix

  • Legendary
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1716
  • points:
    47713
  • Karma: 74
  • Your Bitcoin Mixer
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 03:55:42 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 15
    Badges: (View All)
    Karma Bad Poll Voter Topic Starter
I do not think he used stop loss. Know that trading is beyond using stop loss. With huge amount of money, low risky trading is better which is spot trading.

He didn't, he got liquidated!
Once the liquidating was triggered the percentage of the sum, the margin call were returned to him.

The person will be depressed if he has no much more than that. He needs also not to start all over again because he will likely lose all the money if he continues to trade. He should just hold instead.

Yeah, good advice but guys who go full 1 mil into leverage trading on altcoins won't follow up.
He had 1 mill, but he now has only a fragment of it, guess what the urge that won't let him sleep, make that back as fast as he can, and only then he thinks he will be able to stop.  This is not trading, this is pure gambling, and gambling is one of the last place where you search for people making reasonable decisions.

we just don't know why. But even so, $180,000 is still a huge amount for him to start over.

If that million was made through the same risks as this trade, quitting would be better than starting over.
             ▄▄█████████▄▄
    ▄█████▄█████████████████▄
  ▄███████████████████████████▄
 ████████████████▄▀▀███████████
▄███████████████████ ▀█████████
█████████████▀▀      ▐█████
████████████        ▄██████
▀███████████▌     ██████████▀
 █████
███████      ▀▀▀█████▀  █
  ███████████▄         ▀▀▀ ▄▄█
   ▀████████████▄▄▄   ▄▄▄███▀
     ▀▀██████████████████▀▀
         ▀▀▀████████▀▀▀

UniJoin.io   Your CoinJoin Mixer
▄▄██████▄▄
▄██████▀██████▄
▄███▀▀▀░░░▀▀▀███▄
▄███░░░▄███▄░░░███▄
████░░████▀▄█░░████
████░░█▄▀▄███░░████
▀████░░▀███▀░░████▀
▀████▄░░░░░▄████▀
▀█████▄▄▄█████▀
▀▀█████▀▀
NO LOGS
▄▄██████▄▄
▄█████▀▀▀█████▄
▄████▌░▄▄▄░▐████▄
▄█████░▀░░░█░█████▄
██████▌░░█▀░▐██████
███████▄░▄░▄███████
▀████▀░░░░░░░▀████▀
▀██▌░░░░░░░░░▐██▀
▀██▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄██▀
▀▀█████▀▀
NO SIGN-UP
████████████████████████
█████████████▀▄▀████████
████████████▀▄█████████
██████████▀▌▄██████████
██████████▌███████████
█████████▀▄███▀█████████
██████▀▄▄██████▀███████
█████▀▄█▀▄████████████
██████▀▄█▌▐████▐█████
█████▌▐█▀▌▐█████▐█████
██████████████▄██████
███████▄▄██████▄████████
████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
MIX ՈOW.
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████

Online jeraldskie11

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 713
  • points:
    44445
  • Karma: 22
  • Coinomize.biz
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 05:27:41 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 14
    Badges: (View All)
    500 Posts Topic Starter Poll Voter
The only problem I see with the owner of those account is that he didn't put a stop loss. Literally, if you don't put a stop loss in your trade no matter how far the liquidation there's still a risk of losing your capital. And there's a worse, if ever you forgot to put  a stop loss and you are currently using the cross-margin mode, you are risking not only the margin but the overall port if the price went to the opposite direction. To prevent this kind of stuff, no matter how good the setup is, always put a stop loss.

Online Sim_card

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 806
  • points:
    49355
  • Karma: 16
  • Coinomize.biz
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 1
  • Last Active: Today at 05:38:42 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 14
    Badges: (View All)
    500 Posts Poll Voter Quick Poster
I think that it is better if we most do future trading we use stop loss to prevent such great loss. This trader should be grateful to Binance for that mechanism that stops loss automatically when the loss is upto 83%, if not he would ha e lost everything, and he will put the blame on cryptocurrency instead of his careless action, and trading with an amount that he cannot afford to lose.

Offline vegasus

  • Legendary
  • *
  • Activity: 2000
  • points:
    80249
  • Karma: 288
  • Bitcoin Mixer| Since 2019
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: May 02, 2024, 11:30:08 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 22
    Badges: (View All)
    Fifth year Anniversary Fourth year Anniversary 10 Posts
The trading feature is more like gambling. Moreover, if you cannot optimize detailed market analysis, strategies for encountering the loss, then be prepared to lose money very easily in future gambling.

Imagine if many beginners were actually more interested in doing future trading just because they saw their senor share trading signals or future trading results with increases of thousands of percent. And in reality, it's done by professionals, and whether it's real or not. But for beginners, it's just a scheme for losses.

Because of this, it is quite difficult for beginners to quickly understand and be able to analyze the market well and wisely. So the result is deep loss, excessive greed by using high leverage without other considerations.

Altcoins Talks - Cryptocurrency Forum


Offline bayu7adi

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1114
  • points:
    38351
  • Karma: 38
  • Bitcoin Mixer| Since 2019
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: May 01, 2024, 10:55:59 AM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 16
    Badges: (View All)
    Karma Bad 1000 Posts Poll Voter
It's scary... even if you think about it, why would this person put most of his assets on Binance??? Isn't that a big risk that could trigger unreasonable trading or investment decisions? In fact, he wasn't the only one whose assets were liquidated, there were many other people who also had their assets liquidated when they tried Binance Futures.

Lesson for all of us, if we are not ready to lose everything overnight, never play Binance Futures with most of our money and also don't force it with large leverage... mastering Spot trading first seems like the wisest move... Rushing into Binance Futures because we are tempted by the potential profits shared by our friends on social media is a fatal mistake.

Online emmybd

  • Full Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 233
  • points:
    6184
  • Karma: 7
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 04:10:35 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 13
    Badges: (View All)
    Linux User 10 Posts First Post
Cryptocurrencies are known for their high volatility, which can lead to significant price swings.

Futures often involve leverage, which means borrowing funds to increase potential returns. While this can amplify gains, it can also magnify losses, sometimes exceeding the initial investment.

The mechanisms of futures trading can be complex and confusing, especially for inexperienced traders.

Offline Gladitorcomeback

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1111
  • points:
    34345
  • Karma: 126
  • Your Privacy Matters
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 03:29:16 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 16
    Badges: (View All)
    Search 1000 Posts Poll Voter
He made a mistake and had to face a situation of a lifetime. When you are trading in the futures market, you need to make sure that you have all the risk-management measures set and have your stop-loss and stuff all set because the market is highly unpredictable and volatile and anything can happen at any time, so you can't be so confident to not set a stop-loss and go to bed with so much risk.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do any analysis as well because if he had done so, he would surely set a stop-loss before going to bed because doing analysis makes one realize or at least have an idea that the market is going to go up or down and they can make their decisions accordingly.
...Tumbler.io......Because.Your.Privacy.Matters......Bitcoin.Mixer...

Online akeemqaz

  • Baby Steps
  • *
  • Activity: 40
  • points:
    2295
  • Karma: 2
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 3
  • Last Active: Today at 05:00:52 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 10
    Badges: (View All)
    Poll Voter 10 Posts Karma
Many people dont know how risky futures trading is. Whenever I trade, I believe I'm trading to lose. So when I see profit, I take it. Same as buying altcoins which I use a feature on Bitget call smart portfolio to automatically take profit from them.

Offline IvugeoEvolutionCoin

  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 669
  • points:
    28968
  • Karma: -2
  • Bitcoin Mixer| Since 2019
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: April 29, 2024, 12:50:24 AM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 23
    Badges: (View All)
    Poll Voter 500 Posts Fifth year Anniversary
Many people dont know how risky futures trading is. Whenever I trade, I believe I'm trading to lose. So when I see profit, I take it. Same as buying altcoins which I use a feature on Bitget call smart portfolio to automatically take profit from them.
I think all trading has risks, even trading in our own way also has risks that can make our assets disappear, so never be afraid of the risks, continue to face everything in the right way and remain alert to the situation in the market. Don't be easily influenced by price increases that occur temporarily because it could just be a trap.

Offline Captain Corporate

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1000
  • points:
    28692
  • Karma: 17
  • Bitcoin Mixer| Since 2019
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 0
  • Last Active: Today at 05:13:01 AM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 15
    Badges: (View All)
    1000 Posts 10 Poll Votes Topic Starter
Interesting thing is that you can't really lose this much unless you "bet" this much. Not like people are forcing you to make these wild claims, so when someone loses 1.1 million dollars, understand that they were aware of 1.1 million worth of trade, they were aware of the risk. Nobody knocked on their door and asked them 1.1 million suddenly, they knew what they were getting into when they made this trade. So, while it is definitely a big risk, its also a risk that they knew they were taking, and they assumed that they could change their entire life with one trade, and ... well they did.

Offline gunhell16

  • Legendary
  • *
  • *
  • Activity: 1729
  • points:
    45423
  • Karma: 63
  • Your Privacy Matters
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Referrals: 8
  • Last Active: Today at 05:11:10 PM
    • View Profile

  • Total Badges: 21
    Badges: (View All)
    10 Poll Votes Third year Anniversary 1000 Posts
The only problem I see with the owner of those account is that he didn't put a stop loss. Literally, if you don't put a stop loss in your trade no matter how far the liquidation there's still a risk of losing your capital. And there's a worse, if ever you forgot to put  a stop loss and you are currently using the cross-margin mode, you are risking not only the margin but the overall port if the price went to the opposite direction. To prevent this kind of stuff, no matter how good the setup is, always put a stop loss.

I honestly, even though I know myself that somehow I already know something about trading, when I know that my assets in the trading exchange may be in jeopardy just because of futures trading, I will never actually transfer funds. Although it is also possible to make a profit here, in these situations you can't make a mistake. Remember that.

Now, if we really want to make a profit in trading, it is still spot on to say if it is safest to do it as an individual trader. But thanks to the OP, at least the 179k$ fund was returned to the wallet balance so he could start again, so why did he get another fund? That's what I really don't understand either.
...Tumbler.io......Because.Your.Privacy.Matters......Bitcoin.Mixer...

 

ETH & ERC20 Tokens Donations: 0x2143F7146F0AadC0F9d85ea98F23273Da0e002Ab
BNB & BEP20 Tokens Donations: 0xcbDAB774B5659cB905d4db5487F9e2057b96147F
BTC Donations: bc1qjf99wr3dz9jn9fr43q28x0r50zeyxewcq8swng
BTC Tips for Moderators: 1Pz1S3d4Aiq7QE4m3MmuoUPEvKaAYbZRoG
Powered by SMFPacks Social Login Mod