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Title: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 09, 2024, 11:20:32 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on March 10, 2024, 11:46:05 AM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...

To begin with, it is necessary to understand one simple truth - the government in the country does not appear on its own - it is chosen by someone. And it is most often the population that chooses it. And if the population is led by populists, liars, or religious fanatics, for example, the result is expected! All these "rulers" have the same goal - self-enrichment, at the expense of gullible and not very smart voters. So the question should be rephrased as "why do we elect an incompetent lying corrupt government, and why do we repeatedly fall for their lies and manipulations". When we answer this question to ourselves, we will get answers - how to avoid future problems.

Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 10, 2024, 03:14:37 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
That is for me the main reason why a country suffer so many issues like inflation, insurgency, food shortage, social unrest and many more. The solution would be a total reform in political and justice system in a country because that is where corruption is rampant. Having a good and strong foundation is what makes a country invincible in almost all types of crisis so you can really expect best performance on it's economic growth.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 10, 2024, 03:23:22 PM


To begin with, it is necessary to understand one simple truth - the government in the country does not appear on its own - it is chosen by someone. And it is most often the population that chooses it. And if the population is led by populists, liars, or religious fanatics, for example, the result is expected! All these "rulers" have the same goal - self-enrichment, at the expense of gullible and not very smart voters. So the question should be rephrased as "why do we elect an incompetent lying corrupt government, and why do we repeatedly fall for their lies and manipulations". When we answer this question to ourselves, we will get answers - how to avoid future problems.
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I agree with you, but you know most people that rule today are based on bias and corruption. The masses vote for their choices but at the end of the day we get a different leader which is very bad. And also most citizens sell their votes for small money due to lack of money and greed...
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Sim_card on March 10, 2024, 03:41:09 PM
Before someone should be elected into power, the citizens should look at his past records, if he is the type of person that is corrupt and have a bad record in the past. This will allow the citizens to know the kind of politicians that they want to elect into power. The citizens should also not get carried away with empty promises, and sweet talks from the candidates to be elected. Citizens should also be sincere with themselves and get rid of corruption in them, so that they would not be decieved with little gifts from the politicians during elections. Africa is having problems in getting a good leader due to the high level of corruption. Corrupt leaders are incompetent because they bought their way to power.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on March 10, 2024, 06:27:53 PM
I agree with you, but you know most people that rule today are based on bias and corruption. The masses vote for their choices but at the end of the day we get a different leader which is very bad. And also most citizens sell their votes for small money due to lack of money and greed...

We must realize that corruption does not arise by itself, moreover, very often the population itself supports corruption.
We must also realize that if the population sells its votes or votes without thinking - does it have the right to blame someone for its own troubles? "If you want to change something in the world - start with yourself" - a very simple truth, also suitable for solving the problem of corrupt, lying government. You want to change the government - vote consciously, don't vote for populists, don't vote for criminals, help others to do the same !

Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 14, 2024, 06:36:35 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
The collapsation of governance can lead to poor economy system in a nation and political unrest lack of rule of law, and corruption can be a factor to economic crisis in a nation. That's my opinion.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on March 14, 2024, 10:20:16 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
One of the main transparency features of a country's government is accountability and neutrality, which is not present in our country's government, especially if the government is formed through election irregularities and manipulation, that government has no obligation to act in the interest of the country.
If the political leaders of a country or society are corrupt, then the economy of that country will gradually reach such a level that the entire ecosystem will eventually be destroyed. If the government has enough transparency and accountability, then of course the government of that country will work for the economic development of that country, but in reality, the government of my country is not in such a situation, but the government of our country is full of corruption in all places, due to which we never have transparency and accountability. can't hope
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 27, 2024, 03:09:51 PM

[/quote]The collapsation of governance can lead to poor economy system in a nation and political unrest lack of rule of law, and corruption can be a factor to economic crisis in a nation. That's my opinion.
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Yes I agree with you on this, because If there are no rules, the rate of corruption will increase and also it can bring rise to economic crisis leading to bad economy...
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Penlex_Writer on March 27, 2024, 04:05:44 PM
When there is bad government in a country nothing works well. Every sector is affected. This is so because every country functions in a top-down approach. That is, when the leadership is functional every sector will be functional and vice versa. Evil will never cease to exit in a country when the leadership is mounted by a corrupt leader who got into power through illegal means. The only way to end injustice is to tackle the way election is been run in our country. Secondly, when the election is characterized by rigging, the the judiciary should be impartial and judge based on evidence presented and not based on party sentiment.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on March 28, 2024, 10:04:18 AM
Simple analytics - no one can give a single example where the causes of the economic crisis were something not from this list:
- Natural disasters
- External aggression
- Corruption
Everything else is either a derivative of these 3 causes or an attempt to deceive reality :)

And the most unpleasant thing is that nobody is to blame but ourselves for the last reason. If we fall for empty promises of populists and liars - what do we expect?
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 29, 2024, 12:36:29 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
Let's point out the main problem, the incompetent politicians who only have one thing in their mind, which is to initiate corruption. Those who have a position in the government who always disagree with the better development of the country if they vision that they will be affected, or the citizens will have a better life because the only thing those people want is they be the only person who will have a luxurious life.

The only solution is for them to be out of their position and replaced by those who really have the heart for the citizens of the country. However, this will be a very long and hard process that will never come to us unless their connections in the government will also be out of their positions.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DragonF on March 29, 2024, 01:12:20 PM
In Nigeria, chapter 2 of the 1999 Constitution as amended stipulates what the government owes its citizens ranging from social, economic, and political responsibilities but sadly government is not meeting up to these responsibilities and the reason is simple. Individuals are selected because to me in Nigeria there is selection and not election. Candidates are imposed on the people through political parties. This arrangement is the reason for bad government in the country and when the government is bad, progress and growth become difficult in the country and the economy will be affected.

This is so because, a government that is ushered in through illegal means will concentrate more on settling his cohorts by giving them appointments and he is not worried if they are mediocre or not. His concern is to see them be in that position regardless of performance or antecedents.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Gurujebs on March 29, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...

Bad governors are every were and election manipulation is everywhere but there is limitations to how they all happen. Do you remember back in 2020 when the last US election was conducted and Trump was dethrone from the presidential sit, many of his members claim the election was rigged into Biden favor. I just think that when people lose, that's what they say because If had it been they have won that election, they will say they won't deny that the election was rigged and manipulated.


In addition, reduce your expectations from government, work on yourself because the candidate you might think will do better might be the worst candidate because a single person policy can't change a country overnight, until all of us change our views and reduce personal corruption within us.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Emmanuel1 on April 13, 2024, 12:29:20 AM
Yes is the major cause affecting the country economy.Bad governance has the capacity, to run down the economy of a country, because when you have bad leaders that produce bad governance the economy of the country will be in shamble. Because when you have bad leaders,every policy that is enacted by them, will be for personal gain, not for the economy of the Nation to strive.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Uruhara on April 13, 2024, 10:41:32 AM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...
Currently, there are actually many people who are smart and can manage a country's finances well and can make a country developed. and yes, even those who currently sit on government benches are intelligent people who are actually very skilled in economics. But the problem is now we lack honest people. Because even though someone is very smart in managing the economy, he is not an honest person, this is where corrupt people will emerge. So what I can say is that we are not currently in crisis and do not lack smart people, but we are currently in crisis because we lack good and honest people. I have heard these words too. I forget who I heard it from. but these words are true.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: koang on April 13, 2024, 01:42:50 PM
Democracy provides ample opportunities for participation, and the political process in democracy is the participation of the people to vote.
A well-educated society will become smart voters and smart voters will elect quality leaders.
And leaders resulting from a good democratic process will later produce quality policies as well
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 13, 2024, 04:08:38 PM
Democracy provides ample opportunities for participation, and the political process in democracy is the participation of the people to vote.
A well-educated society will become smart voters and smart voters will elect quality leaders.
And leaders resulting from a good democratic process will later produce quality policies as well


The question of education and responsibility of the population is very important, as well as their position on where the country should move - "forward to the past", or still choose development, change and progress.
At the same time, democracy has a disadvantage - freedom of speech - it allows you to promise and promise virtually anything you want, which can strongly influence the decision-making of voters.  Which unfortunately we have already seen many times....
And of course - a primitive, undeveloped population is the best soil for nurturing totalitarianism and similar anti-human regimes, where neither the life of a citizen nor his standard of living is of any interest to the "ruler" at all
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 14, 2024, 12:02:52 PM
Democracy provides ample opportunities for participation, and the political process in democracy is the participation of the people to vote.
A well-educated society will become smart voters and smart voters will elect quality leaders.
And leaders resulting from a good democratic process will later produce quality policies as well
The only problem is that a country with unstable economy and governance will always result in conflicts whether internal or external. Politics will always be the reason why there is what we called instability in the economy and of course the whole country. In third world countries like mine corruption is quite common.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: koang on April 15, 2024, 10:42:13 AM
Democracy provides ample opportunities for participation, and the political process in democracy is the participation of the people to vote.
A well-educated society will become smart voters and smart voters will elect quality leaders.
And leaders resulting from a good democratic process will later produce quality policies as well
The only problem is that a country with unstable economy and governance will always result in conflicts whether internal or external. Politics will always be the reason why there is what we called instability in the economy and of course the whole country. In third world countries like mine corruption is quite common.

Developing countries are nations that are still constructing their political and democratic systems. These systems are often young and lack solid rules and structures.
Money politics and bureaucratic politicization are often used to undermine democracy.
The most effective ways to achieve an ideal democracy are through improving citizens' political education and literacy, promoting balanced mass media, and implementing public education programs.

BTW Cory Aquino is my idol



Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Celsius on April 16, 2024, 04:49:03 AM
Just as a good governance can play an important role in the economy of a country, a bad government can lead to a bad economic condition in a country.  Because the government can keep itself in charge of all economic activities in a country.  A government can also establish good relations of its own country with the outside world and play an important role in the economy.  Foreign labor market and all types of import and export activities are regulated by a government system, therefore a government plays a very important role in controlling economic standards if the government performs its responsibilities with good governance.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 16, 2024, 11:09:52 PM
Democracy provides ample opportunities for participation, and the political process in democracy is the participation of the people to vote.
A well-educated society will become smart voters and smart voters will elect quality leaders.
And leaders resulting from a good democratic process will later produce quality policies as well
The only problem is that a country with unstable economy and governance will always result in conflicts whether internal or external. Politics will always be the reason why there is what we called instability in the economy and of course the whole country. In third world countries like mine corruption is quite common.

Developing countries are nations that are still constructing their political and democratic systems. These systems are often young and lack solid rules and structures.
Money politics and bureaucratic politicization are often used to undermine democracy.
The most effective ways to achieve an ideal democracy are through improving citizens' political education and literacy, promoting balanced mass media, and implementing public education programs.

BTW Cory Aquino is my idol

I have a question. And why do you think developing countries can't just learn from more successful/stable countries ? Just borrow a model that has proven itself? For example, the Criminal Code, tax laws, and other fundamental laws that have worked well in other countries? It seems to me that in today's world, except for some "special countries", borrowing and adapting "outside experience" may not be a bad way to solve accumulated problems ?
In a way, we can take Singapore as an example, which has reformed quite effectively, essentially borrowing some solutions to fight very strong corruption. Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew for that. In my opinion, external factors aside, it is corruption that is at the root of economic problems in many countries.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: EluguHcman on April 17, 2024, 12:02:41 AM
I agree with you. Infact, even the governments are playing anonymous roles in the societies and the economy private sectors just in frustrating the masses with high cost of living all to enrich them.
Meanwhile the government will claim of trying to do something to calm the hike of goods situations while they are the real developer but hiding under the umbrella of a fellow masses in the society.
Indeed very much obvious, the governments are wicked and responsible for the hardship in the countries.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: koang on April 17, 2024, 10:05:08 AM
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I have a question. And why do you think developing countries can't just learn from more successful/stable countries ? Just borrow a model that has proven itself? For example, the Criminal Code, tax laws, and other fundamental laws that have worked well in other countries? It seems to me that in today's world, except for some "special countries", borrowing and adapting "outside experience" may not be a bad way to solve accumulated problems ?
In a way, we can take Singapore as an example, which has reformed quite effectively, essentially borrowing some solutions to fight very strong corruption. Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew for that. In my opinion, external factors aside, it is corruption that is at the root of economic problems in many countries.

It is not a matter of can or cannot, it is a matter of time.
The larger a country is in terms of population, culture, area, and low levels of education, the more complex the problems it faces and the longer it takes to reform.
That's why Singapore, can quickly reform its bureaucracy. They are a small country
Corruption is just a consequence, not the root of the problem.
The underlying cause is poor governance, led by poor leaders.
In a democracy, these leaders are elected by bad voters.
So the quality of the voters in a democracy will determine the future of their country.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 17, 2024, 02:49:33 PM
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I have a question. And why do you think developing countries can't just learn from more successful/stable countries ? Just borrow a model that has proven itself? For example, the Criminal Code, tax laws, and other fundamental laws that have worked well in other countries? It seems to me that in today's world, except for some "special countries", borrowing and adapting "outside experience" may not be a bad way to solve accumulated problems ?
In a way, we can take Singapore as an example, which has reformed quite effectively, essentially borrowing some solutions to fight very strong corruption. Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew for that. In my opinion, external factors aside, it is corruption that is at the root of economic problems in many countries.

It is not a matter of can or cannot, it is a matter of time.
The larger a country is in terms of population, culture, area, and low levels of education, the more complex the problems it faces and the longer it takes to reform.
That's why Singapore, can quickly reform its bureaucracy. They are a small country
Corruption is just a consequence, not the root of the problem.
The underlying cause is poor governance, led by poor leaders.
In a democracy, these leaders are elected by bad voters.
So the quality of the voters in a democracy will determine the future of their country.
Yeah exactly. People accepts brirbery during elections that is why corrupt politicians will have to make something just to recover the loss they've paid during the campaign period. This is what actually is happening here in my small country. When majority of these bad voters overpower the good voters we are left hanging and things will become worst as corruptions became more rampant.  I think we need a reform on this.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 18, 2024, 05:10:00 PM
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I have a question. And why do you think developing countries can't just learn from more successful/stable countries ? Just borrow a model that has proven itself? For example, the Criminal Code, tax laws, and other fundamental laws that have worked well in other countries? It seems to me that in today's world, except for some "special countries", borrowing and adapting "outside experience" may not be a bad way to solve accumulated problems ?
In a way, we can take Singapore as an example, which has reformed quite effectively, essentially borrowing some solutions to fight very strong corruption. Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew for that. In my opinion, external factors aside, it is corruption that is at the root of economic problems in many countries.

It is not a matter of can or cannot, it is a matter of time.
The larger a country is in terms of population, culture, area, and low levels of education, the more complex the problems it faces and the longer it takes to reform.
That's why Singapore, can quickly reform its bureaucracy. They are a small country
Corruption is just a consequence, not the root of the problem.
The underlying cause is poor governance, led by poor leaders.
In a democracy, these leaders are elected by bad voters.
So the quality of the voters in a democracy will determine the future of their country.


...and "bad government" is a consequence of a global problem - a population that doesn't think, doesn't evaluate. takes their word for it and doesn't hold their constituents accountable.  Bottom line: not smart, no matter how offensive it sounds, the population is the root of the problems ! We ourselves give power to "bad rulers", allow them to break the law and evade responsibility. And corruption is one of the main tools for evading responsibility. So we have a vicious circle: we elect potential criminals, let them do it, do not draw conclusions, and at the next election we vote for populists and liars again. Is it a shame? Yes ! But until the majority of the population realizes it, the situation will not change.....

PS I for example believe that one of the laws that can improve the situation - is the right to vote - only the tax payer ! Let me clarify, although it will sound unpleasant - but pensioners, and all those who are on state support, in a society where there are problems with the government - should not vote. The reason is banal - they are the "breeding ground", which is very easy to cheat or simply bribe for pennies !
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 20, 2024, 03:23:04 PM
and "bad government" is a consequence of a global problem - a population that doesn't think, doesn't evaluate. takes their word for it and doesn't hold their constituents accountable.  Bottom line: not smart, no matter how offensive it sounds, the population is the root of the problems ! We ourselves give power to "bad rulers", allow them to break the law and evade responsibility. And corruption is one of the main tools for evading responsibility. So we have a vicious circle: we elect potential criminals, let them do it, do not draw conclusions, and at the next election we vote for populists and liars again. Is it a shame? Yes ! But until the majority of the population realizes it, the situation will not change
This. Sad reality when it comes to politics in every country except for those that are having a stronger economy and countries having great leaders that prioritize their own country's people, economy, interests and defense.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 21, 2024, 06:00:25 PM
Yeah exactly. People accepts brirbery during elections that is why corrupt politicians will have to make something just to recover the loss they've paid during the campaign period. This is what actually is happening here in my small country. When majority of these bad voters overpower the good voters we are left hanging and things will become worst as corruptions became more rampant.  I think we need a reform on this.

Regarding bribery. I, in my country, have observed this process. That is why I said earlier that I think it is necessary to limit voting rights. It is the pensioners and the poor who are bought very cheaply. And the biggest problem is not that they are being sold, but that they are being sold to get a momentary gain for a day-week-month, with absolutely no thought for the FUTURE. They live today, and they have the most primitive needs, they are not used to building complex cause-and-effect relationships to understand that selling your vote today, for 10 dollars, you, your children and grandchildren will lose thousands of dollars and POSSIBILITIES, and will be deprived of a quality future!
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: koang on April 24, 2024, 09:09:17 AM

PS I for example believe that one of the laws that can improve the situation - is the right to vote - only the tax payer ! Let me clarify, although it will sound unpleasant - but pensioners, and all those who are on state support, in a society where there are problems with the government - should not vote. The reason is banal - they are the "breeding ground", which is very easy to cheat or simply bribe for pennies !

The fundamental principles of democracy are equality and inclusiveness, and the right to participate in the political process is considered a human right. Limiting the franchise to a select few can be viewed as a violation of democratic principles.

Jason Brennan, a professor and author, states that there is a side effect of the democratic system, which encourages citizens to be irrational, tribal behavior and not take their vote seriously.
Therefore, he proposes a complementary system to mitigate these shortcomings, The concept of Epistocracy.
Brennan's concept of Epistocracy is a potential solution to this problem. However, its applicability remains a matter of debate among experts. Some experts consider this concept applicable and believe it can complement the democratic system.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: emmybd on April 26, 2024, 12:49:30 PM
Today in our society,  bad governance can lead to economic crises and make the cost of living very hard for the citizens, in a democratic society, citizens have their rights to vote for who they want for the betterment of the society,  but we still have corruption which affects the elections negatively.
What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...

At present, we can see the gradual decline of democratic norms and principles all around the globe. Many governments although claim to be democratic behave like an autocratic regime. In many countries those who are ruling not even elected by populist vote. And most of these countries are infested with rampant corruption and misgovernance. I believe if the government is properly elected by the populist vote and adhere to the democratic norms and principles then most of these problems will gradually be solved.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 26, 2024, 05:51:23 PM
Yeah exactly. People accepts brirbery during elections that is why corrupt politicians will have to make something just to recover the loss they've paid during the campaign period. This is what actually is happening here in my small country. When majority of these bad voters overpower the good voters we are left hanging and things will become worst as corruptions became more rampant.  I think we need a reform on this.

Regarding bribery. I, in my country, have observed this process. That is why I said earlier that I think it is necessary to limit voting rights. It is the pensioners and the poor who are bought very cheaply. And the biggest problem is not that they are being sold, but that they are being sold to get a momentary gain for a day-week-month, with absolutely no thought for the FUTURE. They live today, and they have the most primitive needs, they are not used to building complex cause-and-effect relationships to understand that selling your vote today, for 10 dollars, you, your children and grandchildren will lose thousands of dollars and POSSIBILITIES, and will be deprived of a quality future!
Here in my place vote buying starts from $50-$200 for mayors and councilors which makes things gets worst if some nonsense politicians will win a slot in the local government as you have said it's a few days of glory just because of the money but it will take more years to suffer from the effect of that wrong doing.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Gurujebs on April 26, 2024, 06:14:21 PM
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What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...

Bad government ridicule the economy but let me ask again, who are the government? Aren't we the government? It is you and I that forms the government but any time the president and governors doesn't do something in accordance to the way we like, we attack them when the individuals are also corrupt in their own ways.

We blame the government over little things hit we are the first to start corruption under our small offices, we used privilege of our offices not to follow due protocols, used influence to break laws and many things that can lead us to jail but we blame the government all the time forgetting that we are also part of the government.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: koang on April 27, 2024, 10:25:24 AM
Here in my place vote buying starts from $50-$200 for mayors and councilors which makes things gets worst if some nonsense politicians will win a slot in the local government as you have said it's a few days of glory just because of the money but it will take more years to suffer from the effect of that wrong doing.

Money politics is not a novel occurrence in the political realm.
However, it appears to be a topic that is largely overlooked.
The lack of public awareness regarding the practice of money politics and the associated risks is a significant contributing factor to the proliferation of money politics.
Efforts to eradicate money politics are not straightforward, requiring a lengthy and complex process.
Incorporating money politics content into educational curricula represents a culturally effective long-term strategy.
In the short term, active voter participation in monitoring election participants can minimize money politics.
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 27, 2024, 10:42:08 AM
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What are the solutions to solve these problems associated with bad government and poor economic conditions?
Shear your ideas and opinions  ...

Bad government ridicule the economy but let me ask again, who are the government? Aren't we the government? It is you and I that forms the government but any time the president and governors doesn't do something in accordance to the way we like, we attack them when the individuals are also corrupt in their own ways.

We blame the government over little things hit we are the first to start corruption under our small offices, we used privilege of our offices not to follow due protocols, used influence to break laws and many things that can lead us to jail but we blame the government all the time forgetting that we are also part of the government.

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It's nice to hear such words !
When more than half of the people will realize that the power is us, corruption is also us, and that we not only choose the power, but also have the right to demand the fulfillment of the goals and election promises. At the same time not to support populists, not to trust those who have already lost trust and deceived, not to believe liars, totalitarian rulers, religious fanatics, corruptors,....  So as not to complain to everyone around you "I have a bad government in my country" :)

Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: DrBeer on April 28, 2024, 03:51:12 PM

PS I for example believe that one of the laws that can improve the situation - is the right to vote - only the tax payer ! Let me clarify, although it will sound unpleasant - but pensioners, and all those who are on state support, in a society where there are problems with the government - should not vote. The reason is banal - they are the "breeding ground", which is very easy to cheat or simply bribe for pennies !

The fundamental principles of democracy are equality and inclusiveness, and the right to participate in the political process is considered a human right. Limiting the franchise to a select few can be viewed as a violation of democratic principles.

Jason Brennan, a professor and author, states that there is a side effect of the democratic system, which encourages citizens to be irrational, tribal behavior and not take their vote seriously.
Therefore, he proposes a complementary system to mitigate these shortcomings, The concept of Epistocracy.
Brennan's concept of Epistocracy is a potential solution to this problem. However, its applicability remains a matter of debate among experts. Some experts consider this concept applicable and believe it can complement the democratic system.


From the point of view of theory - I ABSOLUTELY agree with you !
But... As always there are nuances... The point is that restrictions were and will be in people's lives, and democracy is not permissiveness. Any idea can be brought to absurdity - for example, if democracy - I have the right to do what I want, and therefore I can take away your car because it does not like it ? But then everyone will immediately say - you have no such right, because it violates the right of private property !
Then the question is why criminals and people with antisocial goals have the right to influence the lives of other people, taking away their FUTURE and the right to live a quality life !??  :)

And as a conclusion, I can say that "for the rights of those who want to be disenfranchised" is very often advocated by those for whom this audience - very convenient and profitable.

I will give an example, very unpleasant for me, but very indicative. I am a citizen in Ukraine. I was born back in the days of the USSR. But from childhood I hated totalitarianism and the squalor of "developed socialism, in the best country". You have no idea what were the realities of life in the USSR ...
And as a country that survived 70 years of occupation by the USSR, there are still quite a lot of citizens in Ukriana who are used to living in the USSR, fear and hate FREEDOM, hate progress, hate universal values. And this is actively used by some politicians. And under the slogans "let's return to the USSR", plus giving these people a small food "present" (they are all elderly) - they get a megaloyal audience that will hate everything new, and will pull the whole country back to ruin, totalitarianism, disenfranchisement. And there are VERY MULTIPLE such people. They don't care, they don't have responsibility, they are driven by hatred, and they end up making up, if not a large, then a significant mass of voters. And they will NEVER make a choice for the FUTURE, only "forward to the past".

Plus, I believe that people who do not pay taxes at the moment, are on the maintenance of the state (read - TAXPAYERS), i.e. they from "their pocket", their labor and their time do not pay for the maintenance of others and the country, they can not make balanced and objective decisions to improve the situation !   

PS Epistocracy is quite a good solution !
Title: Re: Bad governance is a major factor affecting the economy .
Post by: Legion on May 08, 2024, 11:24:33 AM
Here in my place vote buying starts from $50-$200 for mayors and councilors which makes things gets worst if some nonsense politicians will win a slot in the local government as you have said it's a few days of glory just because of the money but it will take more years to suffer from the effect of that wrong doing.
So the habit of bribery in some countries still exists, it is truly ironic that people's votes are bought at a cheap price, even though those who serve as mayors or council members will get more from the money collected by people's taxes.