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Title: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: The Hunter on March 02, 2024, 10:20:30 AM
https://etherscan.io/address/0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904
Main Account : 0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904(ETH)


Linked Evidence Wallet

Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1694c1c3175a9451e9796b052e3bbbc8d6d0d02352fed02a7c41c0d6db03ec17
0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 sent 0.01 ETH
($34.19) to 0x92ee922d058D09278e3d60A81F110Cb721159620

who is 0x92ee922d058D09278e3d60A81F110Cb721159620 ?

1.therozaq
Date Registered : June 30, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=34062
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=190000.msg1083514#msg1083514
Joined Tumbler Signature (Spreadsheet no. 8 )

Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9f0b4dae4ad5603b3f0aec17932368d65dfbe8f8b6b4d84796aa6c0b10757d46
0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 sent 0.01 ETH
($34.19) to 0x63Ad7F6291De4C39093e2766391669D2ecCaCbFE

who is 0x63Ad7F6291De4C39093e2766391669D2ecCaCbFE?

2.Doctor
Date Registered : July 01, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=34070
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=200193.msg1129653#msg1129653
Joined SWGT Signature (Spreadsheet no.2 )



Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9c8ba396924748f5c0374d5c4684cddb5a252682383d49034cb4c22e426754e1
0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 sent 0.043 ETH
($147.05) to 0x4EE1b083580b1C6792bDD61b3fdC774405b05C9A

who is 0x4EE1b083580b1C6792bDD61b3fdC774405b05C9A

3.DAMKAR
Date Registered : July 06, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=34310
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=190000.msg1072525#msg1072525
Joined Coinomize Signature (Spreadsheet no. 31)
 

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c


Main Account 2 : 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c(ETH/BSC)


Transaction Hash: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x80931a96761176418b2906a1531ad4d644377596b04e3a400ff298848bbfd1cb
0xADb23A39032CE81b98eaa827c3AC4E1d76629956 sent 0.00647 ETH
(22.31) to 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c

who is 0xADb23A39032CE81b98eaa827c3AC4E1d76629956?

Doctor
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=269396.msg1367662#msg1367662


Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0xecd6b23dcfabf96b1ba8b9c7629d750d8026dc7b174fedcbc5c93d806b75e769
0x44e2a1e469e5eCC2fFf9D9c12b31F564AaDc36F6 sent 0.0034 ETH
(22.31) to 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c

who is 0x44e2a1e469e5eCC2fFf9D9c12b31F564AaDc36F6?

1.elbans89
Date Registered : July 06, 2018, 05:16:41 PM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=34307
POA  : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=188163.msg1058604#msg1058604
Joined Tumbler Signature (Spreadsheet no.16 )

Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0xbc435c412300a1cec71811462c132dfc15bcce3ef80782dccb97a839785c94b3
0x4EE1b083580b1C6792bDD61b3fdC774405b05C9A (DAMKAR) sent 0.00473 ETH
($16.31) to 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c

Transaction Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x3e48d59709a84387be7ba9a7e5ea1b9d14eb10d56733c177e1fafe63aeb1e325 (BSC)
0xADb23A39032CE81b98eaa827c3AC4E1d76629956 (Doctor) sent 0.003 BNB
0x0F81ea4d79CfD0024f2092e57b057D7e6062651f


who is 0x0F81ea4d79CfD0024f2092e57b057D7e6062651f?

2.Pacar Tiri
Date Registered : July 08, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=34348
POA  : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=279421.msg1397233#msg1397233
Joined Coinomize  Signature (Spreadsheet no. 45)




Look this https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9f0b4dae4ad5603b3f0aec17932368d65dfbe8f8b6b4d84796aa6c0b10757d46
0x97a4548787985c60A992785b85818DF7C4456904 (Main account) sent 0.01 ETH 0x6fBAA88DFD8B16f31eB5e6f25924Fb5DeE39f89F (Main account 3)
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xac277256e1af1a4c14319906890c930e98cf0ef2c4ab04a59d91cc7fd11017cc
0xBce30A5a4160479A6909EDD5def0CA1287c8FEb2 (main account 4) Received 0.03  ETH from 0x6fBAA88DFD8B16f31eB5e6f25924Fb5DeE39f89F (Main account 3)

Check out : https://etherscan.io/address/0xbce30a5a4160479a6909edd5def0ca1287c8feb2


Transaction Hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9633b8fc3286bcb83d6c8bdedfbd6b8e96382080f4b453b088400ebeec19381f

0xBce30A5a4160479A6909EDD5def0CA1287c8FEb2 sent 0.008 ETH to 0xE9C4F26e4D829373f87B548154eca96eD53175aC

who is 0x44e2a1e469e5eCC2fFf9D9c12b31F564AaDc36F6?

1.anshor1
Date Registered : July 06, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=34308
POA  : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=177448.msg966513#msg966513


Please, take a moment to peruse this evidence

https://etherscan.io/address/0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904

(https://i.ibb.co/hsF62rf/002.jpg)
 

"Would it not raise suspicion of all transactions occurred within a single day? Quite dubious, wouldn't you say?"


They attempted to initiate transactions using various wallets, yet but I found that the wallets are connected , forming a singular network (one circle).
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: The Hunter on March 02, 2024, 10:29:09 AM
I am well aware of the identity behind this account. Brace yourself for quite surprising. Additionally, I've stumbled upon compelling evidence concerning one of the judges. Please, do not take offense. May I proceed with initiating a new case regarding one of the judges in question?
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Freemind on March 02, 2024, 10:59:04 AM
I am well aware of the identity behind this account. Brace yourself for quite surprising. Additionally, I've stumbled upon compelling evidence concerning one of the judges. Please, do not take offense. May I proceed with initiating a new case regarding one of the judges in question?

Thanks again. You can open all cases you find regardless of users and ranks. No matter who is. With the evidence you demonstrate in each case it is beyond any doubt. If the evidence is conclusive as it has been so far in all the cases you have published, there is no problem.

+1
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: hugeblack on March 03, 2024, 08:53:28 AM
I am well aware of the identity behind this account. Brace yourself for quite surprising. Additionally, I've stumbled upon compelling evidence concerning one of the judges. Please, do not take offense. May I proceed with initiating a new case regarding one of the judges in question?
This will be interesting, but since the evidence is linked to one of the judges, the link must be strong, and I expect all members of the forum to try to verify its accuracy, as the integrity of the judge is an essential of the system.

Thanks again. You can open all cases you find regardless of users and ranks. No matter who is. With the evidence you demonstrate in each case it is beyond any doubt. If the evidence is conclusive as it has been so far in all the cases you have published, there is no problem.
How will measures be taken in such cases and how will the judge lose his position?
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 03, 2024, 12:32:04 PM
Pacar Tiri additionally has a registered warning for AI bot usage. Bad sign which can support the idea that this account can be a part of some farm, because AI usage usually is characteristic for multi account farmers. ???
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Freemind on March 03, 2024, 01:08:34 PM
How will measures be taken in such cases and how will the judge lose his position?

The judges, as well as the moderators (local, global, etc.), must respect the rules like the rest of the users. If the evidence is clear and conclusive, the judge would not only lose his position, but would face the penalties dictated by the rules of the forum. That's why I said in my previous post that it doesn't matter who it is.

The fact (supposedly) that those who should care about respecting and providing equal opportunities to all users do precisely the opposite leaves the rest of the staff in a very bad position. And that is something that now, more than ever, we cannot allow.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 04, 2024, 08:23:58 AM
wow. sorry, but The Hunter, u should widen ur catches again. 'Would it be "harmful" for us if investigating their accounts too?

No need dictating to other users how they should help the forum. If you want to investigate other forum members and your evidence is strong enough, conduct your own investigation. Other forum members will act according to their own understanding. ???
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 07, 2024, 01:12:39 PM
Hello, judge and admin.. all
I would explain that we are a community.
Are communities in crypto that share gas fees and sometimes carry out transactions until the wallet is connected not allowed??
Are there any rules here??
Is this banned in the crypto world??
 
Didn't you see that transaction 0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 only transferred the gas fee. Yes, at that time the gas fee was very high so we asked a friend to lend us the gas fee.
And in our community that's normal.
If connected wallets are considered multiple, have their transaction frequency been checked?
Are the transactions frequent??
And if wallet 0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 is considered the main account / main wallet, try checking how many coins are there and how big the assets are.
 
The logic is weak if the gas loan and borrowing fee is considered multiple.
It is weak logic if fellow crypto lovers are prohibited from making transactions.
And see wallet 0x44e2a1e469e5eCC2fFf9D9c12b31F564AaDc36F6(elbans) only sent 0.0034 ETH ( $22.31) to 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c. And DAMKAR 0x4EE1b083580b1C6792bDD61b3fdC774405b05C9A sent 0.00473 ETH ($16.31) to 0x2d233983356986a82359f73937a618328a0fe50c.
This is considered multity??
Sharing gas and transactions with fellow crypto creators is considered to be the same owner ??
Can you prove it??
Accusers must be able to provide evidence, not just throw a hot ball and then leave by getting rewards from their BM.
 
If the IP is the same, it is assumed that it has the same owner??
Have you never been to a cafe that provides free wifi and made a post together?
Do fellow crypto lovers in the real world in the same community never share hotspots??
Can't they meet each other??
Is this prohibited??
 
There should be clear rules in this forum, not allowing you to use wallets that are connected to fellow members in this forum.
So that we can all understand and keep our wallets clean.
because it can only be considered a violation of the law, if there are already regulations. how can we be considered wrong if there are no clear rules governing it.
 
And when the cases raised in this forum court, only gas fee transactions and buying and selling between communities are considered multiple and the owner is considered to be one person, very lucky for those who are experts even though many of the multiple are untouched??
 
What you raise are only cases of careless people, who think connected wallets are normal in the crypto world. Meanwhile, multi owners who are experts in keeping their wallets will always be safe.
 
Try to imagine if hot wallets on Binance or other exchanges could be tracked, how many wallets in the world would be connected.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Freemind on March 07, 2024, 04:43:33 PM
I agree with something you said. I think that a specific rule would be very necessary for cases like this, which unfortunately we see more frequently. I have an idea of ​​what that rule might be, but I don't think most users will like it, so before I make my proposal public, I'll think about it and then discuss it with the admin to see what he thinks.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 08, 2024, 12:37:33 AM
I agree with something you said. I think that a specific rule would be very necessary for cases like this, which unfortunately we see more frequently. I have an idea of ​​what that rule might be, but I don't think most users will like it, so before I make my proposal public, I'll think about it and then discuss it with the admin to see what he thinks.
Please, as an active official who is currently managing the forum, submit a proposal to the admin regarding clear rules that members must obey.  Because the continuity of this forum, for the sake of the progress of the forum, must be continued.

Most of the members of this forum are a community in the real world, if everyone who is connected is considered multiple, and must be punished, we should have clear rules which, if violated, must be punished.
We must think about the progress of the forum, not just think about careless things which are considered major sins and must be punished.
Shouldn't life have rules, mate?
People can be considered to have made a mistake if there are rules.

If people use the same wallet for several accounts and there is a POA as proof, that is clear proof.
these can be tried and punished.

But if only the wallet is connected, buying and selling transactions between members is considered an error, BM should also include this rule in its general rules.  If there are wallet participants connected, they are considered multiple and cheaters.

Many of our mentors in the community PMed about this issue, he is also one of the former high-ranking officials on this forum.  But currently he is busy in the real world so he hasn't had time to contact the admin to discuss and hasn't had time to return to the forum.
He was just disappointed, this wasn't how it was done.  He has also contributed a lot in the past for the progress of this forum and it is clear that you also know him well.
His message was to take good care of the forum together, don't fight each other.  Because it will damage the forum's reputation.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: hugeblack on March 08, 2024, 08:49:38 AM
I agree with something you said. I think that a specific rule would be very necessary for cases like this, which unfortunately we see more frequently. I have an idea of ​​what that rule might be, but I don't think most users will like it, so before I make my proposal public, I'll think about it and then discuss it with the admin to see what he thinks.
I do not think such a rule is necessary If we want to prove that the accounts are linked, we need more than one transaction or linked wallet, but rather:

 - Check the similarity in writing style (each of us has a unique writing style and it is difficult to change it)
 - Check account activity: Alternative accounts usually have similar activity in terms of time or the boards they post on.
 - Verify local languages: If the accounts speak different languages, this is evidence that they are not alternative accounts.
 - Check other variables.

If there are accounts that have connected wallets, the same writing style, the same level of activity, the same local language, and the same other variables, then it is definitely an alternative account.

Creating a rule like this will give a free license to any alt account that claims it is a unique account and can say that it is my roommate as we have a common IP address and share the same device and we can do KYC (and here he can pay anyone to do this) and therefore there is no benefit to this board.


Leave things as they are, and if a connection is found, a person can defend himself here. The only problem is the activity of the judges. I did not hear any response from them, even though some cases took more than two weeks.

back to above lets choose @Doctor & @anshor1

Yeah, I think It's safe to invest in TRX.

Yeah , NEO won't better than Ethereum, NEO is just Chinese coin.. Ethereum is the second biggest community in crypto currency. I agree with you, Ethereum will more expensive, Im waiting the ETF Ethereum, If approved I believe Ethereum price will soar
There is a similarity in writing style, posts usually begin with short sentences followed by a comma.
If all accounts follow the same pattern, then we now have a link between them at the blockchain level, and at the writing style level, and so on, checking the rest of the variables until reaching the final result.


I can delve deeper into confirming or denying writing patterns, but what I wanted to say is that there is no fire without smoke, and proving the link between accounts is not just a single transaction.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 08, 2024, 09:55:53 AM

There is a similarity in writing style, posts usually begin with short sentences followed by a comma.
If all accounts follow the same pattern, then we now have a link between them at the blockchain level, and at the writing style level, and so on, checking the rest of the variables until reaching the final result.

Hello, hugeblack
If only the similarity of terminology is a proof, and you are discussing the same way of writing it is a multi-indication, why are you only discussing the word " yeah " ???
you might as well discuss the words "yes I agree, okay, I agree with you, Good Idea, You're right, Yeps... etc"
make it proof that the account is multi.

Why don't you think and try to learn the dialect of each country, English is not native to their country and use a translator.The post results will look the same.

Just at the same time, decide on the opening words that are often used by members here as the basis for the accusation that all accounts are multiple.

Isn't that a common sentence in the market???
This is not a strong basis for answering a case.You should use a more reasonable basis.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 08, 2024, 10:15:36 AM

If there are accounts that have connected wallets, the same writing style, the same level of activity, the same local language, and the same other variables, then it is definitely an alternative account.


What you say is all just based on assumptions.  People can have different assumptions and perceptions regarding the things you talk about regarding similarities in writing style, etc.  Sometimes it could happen by chance.  If you make a decision based only on assumptions, then the level of accuracy of the truth of the decision obtained cannot be measured.  In my opinion, this should not be done because it would be too speculative.  Laws should not be based on anything speculative.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 08, 2024, 04:25:11 PM
Why don't you think and try to learn the dialect of each country, English is not native to their country and use a translator.The post results will look the same.

No popular online translator was used for these posts (they give results a different way). Which online translator do you use to get these results? I want to try to repeat the same result. ???
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Freemind on March 08, 2024, 07:05:26 PM
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I said I have an idea, but I have to mature it, and if I finally propose it many users will not like it, so I have to think about it more. It is not about being an "official" of the forum or a moderator, it is about trying to contribute useful ideas to improve the forum. Anyway, I'll wait to find out what the judges' decision is and what the bounty managers are discussing in that thread, after that I will decide what to do with the proposal.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: hugeblack on March 09, 2024, 08:48:16 AM
Why don't you think and try to learn the dialect of each country, English is not native to their country and use a translator.The post results will look the same.

Google Translate or any translation is your words and translation algorithm, your writing style is unique and therefore the translation will be unique. We can continue this argument, but you will still say that these are assumptions.



If you really want to prove that these accounts are not your alt accounts, you must do the following:

1) Proof that there is more than one person: You said it was gas fees[1], and therefore there must have been a discussion between you and that account at that time, and here it is either:
  - Discussion took place via the forum or PM. You can send report that messages to the admin or give a trusted account access to your account to review PMs.
 - Discussion took place outside the forum: Here you can provide a screenshot, but it will be more difficult to prove.

2) Proving that there is something different in the account: such as posting in a different local board or any board, for example, I do not post in gambling, or you do not post in tech board, and so on.

3) Be cooperative and respond to members’ inquiries: We have nothing against you, and if it is proven that these accounts are not alt accounts, we will be happy, but if you are not cooperative, most likely no one will be interested in trying to prove or deny the connection between the accounts.

[1]
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Didn't you see that transaction 0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 only transferred the gas fee. Yes, at that time the gas fee was very high so we asked a friend to lend us the gas fee.
And in our community that's normal.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 09, 2024, 11:58:54 AM
Hi...grammarian and terminology expert,
I already said we are one community in the real world, please read my post slowly.
We are in the same area and often together.
Do we have to take a photo together to show our togetherness??  ;)
No..We will not provide this to protect our privacy.

Who are you ?
Let the judge decide this?
If one community is deemed wrong and multifaceted, we will leave this forum along with other friends.
I'm just asking for our rights,
Are there any rules that don't allow us to exchange gas fees and carry out transactions in the real world among communities using wallets on this forum?
Please judge us...
But we can only be judged and considered wrong if there are rules governing that.
Are there any rules?
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: notblox1 on March 10, 2024, 08:30:49 PM
No..We will not provide this to protect our privacy.
You can enjoy your privacy but than you are a cheater community family ;D
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 11, 2024, 07:19:01 AM
No..We will not provide this to protect our privacy.
You can enjoy your privacy but than you are a cheater community family ;D

what do you mean, dude?
Are you who decides a cheater or not?
Are you the judge?? 
or the owner of this forum ?
Do you have the authority to claim it ?
 
Admin and senators are discussing and voting on this.
You have assumed and have decided that our community is a cheater.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: notblox1 on March 11, 2024, 11:44:07 PM
Are you who decides a cheater or not?
Are you the judge?? 
or the owner of this forum ?
Do you have the authority to claim it ?
Yes.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Lauda Reborn on March 12, 2024, 07:06:25 AM
Are you who decides a cheater or not?
Are you the judge?? 
or the owner of this forum ?
Do you have the authority to claim it ?
Yes.
This is untrue. You deceive people.
Owner of this forum: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1
Judges: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5616, https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=33725

They are the people who have the authority. You??  ::)


Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: examplens on March 12, 2024, 12:49:33 PM
what do you mean, dude?
Are you who decides a cheater or not?
Are you the judge?? 
or the owner of this forum ?
Do you have the authority to claim it ?
 
Admin and senators are discussing and voting on this.
You have assumed and have decided that our community is a cheater.

Whoever he is, with or without a title, has the right to express his opinion. More opinions will make the decision easier for those who need to make it. You don't need to be nervous.

I partially looked at everything presented here, and I think that sending coins/tokens between members should not be strictly punishable nor 100% proof that alt accounts are involved. Of course, unless it is frequent and organized.
Even if it is the same person behind these exposed accounts, I do not see a serious violation of the "one account-one campaign" rule. All accounts are in different campaigns, or maybe I overlooked something.

I assume that the admin and those who decide have more insight and can assert the connection of these accounts with more certainty.



@anshor1 It is wrong for you to create new accounts to add neutrality to this discussion, attacking those who criticize you. It just makes the overall picture of your case worse.

This is untrue. You deceive people.
Owner of this forum: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1
Judges: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5616, https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=33725

They are the people who have the authority. You??  ::)
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 12, 2024, 01:24:59 PM
Even if it is the same person behind these exposed accounts, I do not see a serious violation of the "one account-one campaign" rule. All accounts are in different campaigns, or maybe I overlooked something.

Don't forget that AltcoinsTalks doesn't allow to use multiple undeclared accounts, especially if they participate in any campaigns or contests or anything like that. Even if they participate in different campaigns. On our forum several undeclared accounts is a violation by itself. There can probably be turned a blind eye to this if this is made to represent some project (as the only aim) or not used for any dubious purpose and for campaign participation, but this case is of a different kind.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: anshor1 on March 12, 2024, 03:19:30 PM

I partially looked at everything presented here, and I think that sending coins/tokens between members should not be strictly punishable nor 100% proof that alt accounts are involved. Of course, unless it is frequent and organized.
Even if it is the same person behind these exposed accounts, I do not see a serious violation of the "one account-one campaign" rule. All accounts are in different campaigns, or maybe I overlooked something.

I assume that the admin and those who decide have more insight and can assert the connection of these accounts with more certainty.


Your logic is correct, because the only transaction is a gas fee and at that time the gas fee was very high so we asked for help from the community.
And transactions are not carried out frequently, it is not strong proof.

We did that because we didn't know that gas fee transactions and buying and selling between members were prohibited.
Because there are no rules in this forum yet.
If there were rules that prohibited it, our community would not do it.

And as I have explained above, I am only asking about my rights, where the exchange of gas fees and transactions between members is prohibited on this forum.

I asked if there were any rules, because someone would be considered wrong if there were already rules.
That is the law that applies in all countries.

If I and my community are decided wrong after seeing the clear basis of the rules, I and my community will leave this forum back to the old forum.


@anshor1 It is wrong for you to create new accounts to add neutrality to this discussion, attacking those who criticize you. It just makes the overall picture of your case worse.


Lauda reborn is not me and I didn't create it.  I don't know who he/she is at all.



Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: examplens on March 12, 2024, 10:38:23 PM
Your logic is correct, because the only transaction is a gas fee and at that time the gas fee was very high so we asked for help from the community.

Honestly, this excuse does not seem convincing to me, and it is completely unclear why you only sent gas fees to each other at a time when the same gas fee was too high.

Lauda reborn is not me and I didn't create it.  I don't know who he/she is at all.

A newly created account that, with its first post, defends you with a very similar way of writing.
At the same time, it is not a beginner on this forum because it shows good knowledge of forum rules and also it leaves a specific reference link, which many forum users do not even know about.
The chances of such a coincidence are zero, plus this whole discussion is about you managing several accounts.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: notblox1 on March 12, 2024, 11:48:40 PM
@anshor1 It is wrong for you to create new accounts to add neutrality to this discussion, attacking those who criticize you. It just makes the overall picture of your case worse.
This is not his new account, this is another of his family community members that is distant relative of Lauda.

A newly created account that, with its first post, defends you with a very similar way of writing.
At the same time, it is not a beginner on this forum because it shows good knowledge of forum rules and also it leaves a specific reference link, which many forum users do not even know about.
The chances of such a coincidence are zero, plus this whole discussion is about you managing several accounts.
He didnt defend him, he only defended family attacked by word YES.
We are lucky to have such new valuable family members.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: hugeblack on March 18, 2024, 10:22:12 AM
Honestly, this excuse does not seem convincing to me, and it is completely unclear why you only sent gas fees to each other at a time when the same gas fee was too high.
I told him the correct way he can help defend himself, which is as follows


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1) Proof that there is more than one person: You said it was gas fees[1], and therefore there must have been a discussion between you and that account at that time, and here it is either:
  - Discussion took place via the forum or PM. You can send report that messages to the admin or give a trusted account access to your account to review PMs.
 - Discussion took place outside the forum: Here you can provide a screenshot, but it will be more difficult to prove.


Does anyone know why there is a red dot next to the account? I noticed this for most of the accounts revealed in this section.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 18, 2024, 10:53:13 AM
Does anyone know why there is a red dot next to the account? I noticed this for most of the accounts revealed in this section.

This is a mark of a new group "zoom 1". admin said he will explain more later.

Distribution done,

..

- Users will red dot were skipped (the reason will be addressed later)

Looks like this mark can be tied with ongoing investigations or something like that, but it is just my guess, I don't know exactly. :)
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: damsix on March 18, 2024, 01:11:49 PM
Quote
1) Proof that there is more than one person: You said it was gas fees[1], and therefore there must have been a discussion between you and that account at that time, and here it is either:
  - Discussion took place via the forum or PM. You can send report that messages to the admin or give a trusted account access to your account to review PMs.
 - Discussion took place outside the forum: Here you can provide a screenshot, but it will be more difficult to prove.


Does anyone know why there is a red dot next to the account? I noticed this for most of the accounts revealed in this section.
Yeps, I'm one of the ones here who got a red circle on my account and that's a badge that can be said to be "misbehaving" if you refer to this Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0)
(https://i.imgur.com/Kb3Map1.png)

And if I have to prove the transaction gas fees you mentioned in the "quote", I can't because I'm discussing it in my own house with my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews.
If I have to prove other than using screenshots of conversations, do my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews and I have to take a photo together side by side to prove that we are real humans who have been present on altcoinstalks since 2018??

Does anyone know why there is a red dot next to the account? I noticed this for most of the accounts revealed in this section.
This is a mark of a new group "zoom 1". admin said he will explain more later.
Hi mate, I have explained it above, please read it in detail and that is proof that the Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0) was created by a "dragoncrypto" member.

Looks like this mark can be tied with ongoing investigations or something like that, but it is just my guess, I don't know exactly. :)
Yeps, this case is currently under investigation by Admin, Judges , Bounty Managers and Senators because this case is very complex so it takes a lot of time to provide the best solution because as I said before, altcoinstalks is a friendly forum.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: Jokers on March 18, 2024, 01:20:39 PM
Yeps, I'm one of the ones here who got a red circle on my account and that's a badge that can be said to be "misbehaving" if you refer to this Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0)
(https://i.imgur.com/Kb3Map1.png)

...

Hi mate, I have explained it above, please read it in detail and that is proof that the Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0) was created by a "dragoncrypto" member.

It's not a misbehaving badge, it's a new badge for "zoom 1" group. When dragononcrypto wrote his topic there was no "zoom 1" group yet, so he couldn't explain it then. This is what I know. I'm not sure what belonging to this group means, so will be waiting for admin's clarification.
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: hugeblack on March 18, 2024, 01:59:42 PM
And if I have to prove the transaction gas fees you mentioned in the "quote", I can't because I'm discussing it in my own house with my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews.
If I have to prove other than using screenshots of conversations, do my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews and I have to take a photo together side by side to prove that we are real humans who have been present on altcoinstalks since 2018??
Wasn't your friend the one who sent the gas fees, which is why these accounts are linked?  ???

Didn't you see that transaction 0x97a4548787985c60a992785b85818df7c4456904 only transferred the gas fee. Yes, at that time the gas fee was very high so we asked a friend to lend us the gas fee.
And in our community that's normal.

Not only that, but your justification for using the same IP was not because we live in the same house, but rather

Quote
If the IP is the same, it is assumed that it has the same owner??
Have you never been to a cafe that provides free wifi and made a post together?
Do fellow crypto lovers in the real world in the same community never share hotspots??
Can't they meet each other??
Is this prohibited??


Can you mention the accounts of your wife, mother, uncle and two nephews? Which of these accounts specifically?




It's not a misbehaving badge, it's a new badge for "zoom 1" group. When dragononcrypto wrote his topic there was no "zoom 1" group yet, so he couldn't explain it then. This is what I know. I'm not sure what belonging to this group means, so will be waiting for admin's clarification.

I think this update is related -----> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319399.msg1521616#new
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: damsix on March 19, 2024, 02:29:55 AM
Yeps, I'm one of the ones here who got a red circle on my account and that's a badge that can be said to be "misbehaving" if you refer to this Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0)
(https://i.imgur.com/Kb3Map1.png)
...
Hi mate, I have explained it above, please read it in detail and that is proof that the Thread   (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0) was created by a "dragoncrypto" member.
It's not a misbehaving badge, it's a new badge for "zoom 1" group. When dragononcrypto wrote his topic there was no "zoom 1" group yet, so he couldn't explain it then. This is what I know. I'm not sure what belonging to this group means, so will be waiting for admin's clarification.
Well, thanks for notifying me.
It is true that the red circle is the badge for "zoom 1". This badge is not in the reference thread that was created by a dragoncrypto member.

And if I have to prove the transaction gas fees you mentioned in the "quote", I can't because I'm discussing it in my own house with my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews.
If I have to prove other than using screenshots of conversations, do my wife, mother, uncle and two nephews and I have to take a photo together side by side to prove that we are real humans who have been present on altcoinstalks since 2018??
Wasn't your friend the one who sent the gas fees, which is why these accounts are linked?  ???
No, it wasn't my friend who sent the transaction gas. I don't know them.

In reply to the thread here I am "just explaining" to you that I also got the "red circle" badge because I also have a case based on a report from a member of the Hunter. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317996.0

Can you mention the accounts of your wife, mother, uncle and two nephews? Which of these accounts specifically?
Come on, mate, can you pretend to have amnesia in 20 days?? xixiixxixiixi
Please check clarification about me in this thread https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317996.msg1509046#msg1509046

You have also read, replied and quoted about the case that I clarified.
Please check this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317996.msg1509348#msg1509348

FYI, My case is being handled by the Admin, Judge, Senator and Bounty Manager and this will take a long time because there are many policy considerations that must be taken for the good of the forum now and in the future.
Please check this : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318651 (this thread only see by the "Admin, Judge, Senator and Bounty Manager" , said Admin).
Title: Re: Linked Wallets Detected 2
Post by: alltalk on March 19, 2024, 02:37:29 AM
First of all, I'd like to thank The Hunter (the plaintiff) for his efforts in helping the forum in fighting cheating in campaigns and multi-accounts. I need to emphasize that we as judges always use facts and legal rules in making decisions. We are of course always on the neutral side in deciding every case.

Based on what the plaintiff conveyed, we have carried out further investigation and analysis regarding this case.
With the facts provided, we can draw several important points regarding this case:

1. There is only 1 type of evidence, namely proof of transactions between wallets.
2. There is no supporting evidence that the sending wallet and the recipient's wallet are owned by one person.
3. The defense given by Anshor1 is reasonable because it is supported by logical reasons.
4. The assumption of similarity in writing style or other things must be proven in detail. It cannot be measured just based on conclusions from the use of one or two words whose use is not massive. Meanwhile, for similarities in the time of account activity on the forum, further evidence is needed (in the form of photos, screenshot, data, etc.).
5. Communities are not prohibited on the altcoinstalks forum.

From the points above, the evidence provided is still weak because it lacks supporting admissible evidence. The judge cannot find the suspect guilty on weak evidence. Even though there are assumptions conveyed, they cannot be strong admissible evidence without the support of theory, data, photos, and other admissible evidence. Debate and differences of opinion in this prosecution are normal, but judges only draw conclusions based on the available admissible evidence. Admissible evidence that has clear benchmarks and is not abstract and subjective.

We close this case with the following conclusions:
Declare that the accused is not been proven guilty of what was alleged by the plaintiff.

Thank You



"If the prosecution cannot prove the defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury or judge must acquit them"

https://thedefenders.net/blogs/acquittals/
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/beyond_a_reasonable_doubt