[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Jating]

Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.

Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.

Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.

One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.

Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now?  I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.

Right now, Melvin Jerusalem is the lone Filipino boxer with a belt. He once hold the the WBO version of the minimum weight category but lost to Oscar Collazo by knockout last year. He is now holding the WBC belt and planning to unified the WBO and WBC by fighting the dangerous Collazo once again but i doubt he could defeat Collazo because the latter is so technical and heavy handed. If i were his manager i would rather let him fight in a mandatory first before fighting for a unified title fight.

Ok thanks for that information, yeah, I heard his name before but I can't recall it whether he has belts before or a new champion for the PH. I haven't yet research on that Collazo guy, maybe Melvin will have a hard time against him or is that Collazo is too good for him. Like Ancajas wherein he can't win against Puma Martinez even if they fight for a rematch. And it just shows that there are certain fighters who likes like a kryptonite for this boxers as they can't win against them.

[notblox1]

I heard the news that Cris Cyborg is preparing for another boxing fight, after she didnt receive the date for her next MMA fight that she asked for.
Exact date for her third boxing fight is not announced yet but want to see her back in action against some strong opponent.

[Baofeng]

And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,



https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840

So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.

What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?

[Kemarit]

And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,



https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840

So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.

What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?

Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?

And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.

[robelneo]

Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?

And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.

Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could  he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
 the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.

[electronicash]

Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?

And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.

Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could  he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
 the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.

Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.

he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.

[Baofeng]

Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?

And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.

Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could  he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
 the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.

Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.

he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.

Canelo said though that he is not going to please anyone, so maybe he will fight Benavidez next or not. And it is reported that after this fight with Munguia and assuming he will win, next in line for him is Berlanga of Puerto Rico, another hype fighter and young in the mold of Jaime Munguia.

Benavidez has a fight now at Light HW and then if he wins he will challenge for the belt as whoever wins between the 2 Russians, Bivol and Beterbiev. The good thing for us fans is that it's going to be a busy year for this boxers and hopefully everyone will go in the mix and Canelo moving up to 175 lbs will create this noise fight again.

[bitbit97]

Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.

[Baofeng]

How time flies,



https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.

Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.

[Kemarit]

Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.

He is what we call the "cash-cow" in boxing, meaning every fight, he is the A-side and can command huge amount of money because fans are willing to watch him live and thru PPV. Yes, he has been in the boxing for many years and enjoying his life as he could be worth millions already.

Really hard to say when he is going to quit because he can still fight. Maybe if he losses to Munguia, then he can contemplate of retiring. But as of now, perhaps a good 3-4 fights left in him.

[Zed0X]

This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.

[Jating]

This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.

And yet he said that he will continue to fight despite the lost. This is the first time that he had a L and so he still thinks that he can make it big in boxing as he was a great boxer in his previous life.

"I’m not one to hide my face no matter the outcome….I lost last night," Manuel wrote.

"I trained my a** off, had great sparring, cut no corners. But sometimes s*** doesn’t go your way.

"It’s a risk we all take when we step in the ring. It’s what is exciting about boxing - and also the most heartbreaking.

"The most important part is I am healthy. I am deeply disappointed and to be honest, my ego is bruised.

https://talksport.com/sport/1822351/transgender-boxer-patricio-manuel-knockout-loss/
We can't prevent him from pursuing his dreams, if it the right decision for him, then let it be. World is really changing nowadays and everyone has his/her own rights and go where they think is right for them.

[bisdak40]

How time flies,

~snip~

https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.

Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.

Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies  .

[Baofeng]

How time flies,

~snip~

https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.

Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.

Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies  .

Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds  .

And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.

[bisdak40]

Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds  .

And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.

That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.