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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: Rabia on August 26, 2018, 08:58:04 AM

Title: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Rabia on August 26, 2018, 08:58:04 AM
Everyone is always telling you to just HODL through the ups and downs and Don't day trade.

But isn't HODLing a form of trading it it's own right? When you HODL you are always betting that it will  go up eventually, no matter how much it has fallen.
Wouldn't it be better to set profit and loss targets and if it is reached, sell? The one thing that is consistent in derivative markets is that they go up and down, never just in one direction.

So you may miss out on some possible gains, but is that a bad thing if you have locked in profits. It is not as though you can't get back on the bus.

It has occurred to me if l HODL, l could be no different to gambling. Imagine going to the casino and betting on Black continuously,  it doesn't matter if l win or loose as l have never set an exit target, so l keep betting until there is nothing left.

If the market is rising then HODLing is great, but is it so good when your coins just fell 50%...I don't think so!
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: anshor1 on August 26, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
Everyone is always telling you to just HODL through the ups and downs and Don't day trade.

But isn't HODLing a form of trading it it's own right? When you HODL you are always betting that it will  go up eventually, no matter how much it has fallen.
Wouldn't it be better to set profit and loss targets and if it is reached, sell? The one thing that is consistent in derivative markets is that they go up and down, never just in one direction.

So you may miss out on some possible gains, but is that a bad thing if you have locked in profits. It is not as though you can't get back on the bus.

It has occurred to me if l HODL, l could be no different to gambling. Imagine going to the casino and betting on Black continuously,  it doesn't matter if l win or loose as l have never set an exit target, so l keep betting until there is nothing left.

If the market is rising then HODLing is great, but is it so good when your coins just fell 50%...I don't think so!

I support both mate. I hold my ethereum and bitcoin for ling term. I also do day trading with litecoin and XRP.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Master107 on August 26, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
Even everybody will say hold neither sell still the whole decision is under your hands. Don't permit to move your mind by any opinion if you already planned long before. Preparation is great things to overcome the possible things which will become the reality.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: leithy on August 26, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Strictly speaking with day trading you start with x amount, convert it all and then exchange it back to your original coin all within one day.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: cryptothief on August 26, 2018, 10:15:20 PM
By definition, HODLing is absolutely not day trading, they are polar opposites. That's not to say that both forms have their pros and cons, so even when HODLing, you shouldn't do it blindly. Keep an eye on the markets, and you will (hopefully) be able to take advantage of potential drops like the 50% one you mentioned  to either increase your holding in a coin or cash out.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: masudginanjar on August 27, 2018, 05:37:38 AM
HODLiNG is for the long term, for example you have tokens from bounty prizes but there are no supporting exchanges.
even if there is a support but the price drops below the ICO price then you better just HODLING.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: rizqillah on August 27, 2018, 02:23:42 PM
By definition, HODLing is absolutely not day trading, they are polar opposites. That's not to say that both forms have their pros and cons, so even when HODLing, you shouldn't do it blindly. Keep an eye on the markets, and you will (hopefully) be able to take advantage of potential drops like the 50% one you mentioned  to either increase your holding in a coin or cash out.

Yes It is true mate. Holding is for long term investment , trading is for short term.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Naswaty10 on August 28, 2018, 04:09:26 AM
if we have talent and expertise. Short-term investment is better than long-term investment bro.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: moonking on August 28, 2018, 04:47:07 AM
Everyone is always telling you to just HODL through the ups and downs and Don't day trade.

But isn't HODLing a form of trading it it's own right? When you HODL you are always betting that it will  go up eventually, no matter how much it has fallen.
Wouldn't it be better to set profit and loss targets and if it is reached, sell? The one thing that is consistent in derivative markets is that they go up and down, never just in one direction.

So you may miss out on some possible gains, but is that a bad thing if you have locked in profits. It is not as though you can't get back on the bus.

It has occurred to me if l HODL, l could be no different to gambling. Imagine going to the casino and betting on Black continuously,  it doesn't matter if l win or loose as l have never set an exit target, so l keep betting until there is nothing left.

If the market is rising then HODLing is great, but is it so good when your coins just fell 50%...I don't think so!

I think if the coins fell by 50% it is time to buy more, and decrease the original price by creating an average price.  If they fall more, buy more, than when it recovers to half way, than everything is recovered, because it moved above average price.  But this is more to decrease the risk of buying everything at once, and create an average price.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: BlockBuster9 on August 28, 2018, 05:19:13 AM
I think if you want to profit every day in the trade it requires double capital to support trapped capital. with double capital you can buy back when the price falls with a second capital. if you only have one capital when the price falls in the trade it will get us trapped. so we have to hold our capital to wait for prices to rise again.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: kurapika on August 28, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
If you will just HOLD your coins while the market is falling, Then you won't lose your coins as this is just on your wallet but the real value of your coins will reduce base on the actual market price. It will depends on your decision which is good strategy to sell while it's in downfall then bay back later at the bottom or just relax and hold your coins for the better market price. Indeed, holding is not a form of day trading as if you opt to hold your coins will not deducted.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Knaw on August 28, 2018, 12:09:41 PM
I think HOLD is also a good form. You can get more profit, because we are waiting for krypto prices to increase in the next few months at high prices, so we will also get many benefits in the future.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Stalky on August 28, 2018, 01:34:44 PM
I think HOLD is a better way we are waiting for the increase in bitcoin prices in the future, because the price of bitcoin is also increasing, so we think we will also get a lot of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Doctor on August 28, 2018, 03:13:50 PM
if we have talent and expertise. Short-term investment is better than long-term investment bro.

I agree mate. If you are profesional You can try short term or day trading. It is more profitable.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: BlockBuster9 on August 29, 2018, 04:02:08 AM
if we have talent and expertise. Short-term investment is better than long-term investment bro.

I agree mate. If you are profesional You can try short term or day trading. It is more profitable.
Yes, indeed trading daily requires a lot of understanding about buying and selling daily to get maximum profit. I think to do that you have to have big capital, so if you trade daily you can get a lot of money.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Alpha on August 29, 2018, 04:39:48 AM
if we have talent and expertise. Short-term investment is better than long-term investment bro.

I agree mate. If you are profesional You can try short term or day trading. It is more profitable.

I think it is depends on how we properly understood the market flow and some basic fundamentals to bear in mind to minimize the loses if possible whether in day or night trading, whether in short term and long term plans.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: thanks rye18 on August 29, 2018, 03:45:47 PM
I think Day Trading is different from Holding because holding is consider as long term investment while day trading is known as short term investment and which is one of the most investment most especially when market is falling.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Jun on August 29, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
indeed it's depends on strategy, consider if you have big capital holding  for long term when market is falling you gain big profit when crypto price increase.   short term investment if you trade daily  lot of profit also. strictly speaking long term/short term both you need talent and expertise
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Elaine99M on August 29, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Definitely no, I don't think HODLing is part or way of day trading. It is for longterm investing process. If prices are dipping and approaching to the bottom, it's more preferable to buy and HODL only and wait for the prices to recover.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: sugarpie2018 on August 29, 2018, 10:49:19 PM
HODLing is never a form of Day trading. With HODling, money is neither made nor lost. However with day trading the trader stands a great chance of losing or making a lot of money.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Omega on August 30, 2018, 02:20:55 AM
If you doubt what others strategies, then you can go in different ways in onder to see what is more better and what is the truth in holding and trading.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Seeyy on August 30, 2018, 03:39:34 AM
if you trade every day you can get a lot of money. daily trading requires a lot of understanding about buying and selling every day to get maximum profit. I think to do that you have to have big capital,
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: mackinleybhe on August 30, 2018, 07:47:40 PM
The best way or strategy for longterm investment is to HODL . But for day trading, I think it is not applicable. If we are going to invest on bitcoin, preferably HODLing is the best option especially now that btc is still cheaper. Mostly crypto currencies are dependent on the value of bitcoin and I see it more profitable if we base it on the price movement of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Eben on August 30, 2018, 08:19:29 PM
I personally don’t believe holding to be a form of day trading. We normally hodl for the long term expecting that there will be appreciable increase in the price or value of the coin.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: aiviaa485 on September 08, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
The HODL is for long term because the HODL is suitable for coins like DOGE, RDD, SIA which has a total supply of billions.
If the daily trading once you gain 5% immediately sell, so as not to get stuck in the falling price.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: nakmantu99 on September 08, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Everyone is always telling you to just HODL through the ups and downs and Don't day trade.

But isn't HODLing a form of trading it it's own right? When you HODL you are always betting that it will  go up eventually, no matter how much it has fallen.
Wouldn't it be better to set profit and loss targets and if it is reached, sell? The one thing that is consistent in derivative markets is that they go up and down, never just in one direction.

So you may miss out on some possible gains, but is that a bad thing if you have locked in profits. It is not as though you can't get back on the bus.

It has occurred to me if l HODL, l could be no different to gambling. Imagine going to the casino and betting on Black continuously,  it doesn't matter if l win or loose as l have never set an exit target, so l keep betting until there is nothing left.

If the market is rising then HODLing is great, but is it so good when your coins just fell 50%...I don't think so!

I think Hold is the best way to keep the value of crypto. But I prefer do day trading, It is more profitable.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: dekafee79 on September 08, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
I think HOLD is also a good form. You can get more profit, because we are waiting for krypto prices to increase in the next few months at high prices, so we will also get many benefits in the future.


I agree with you mate. Hold is also a good form, It is the best way to keep the value and profitable. But I think day trading is more profitable than hold.
Title: Re: Is HODLing a form of Day Trading?
Post by: Purwodadi on September 09, 2018, 04:01:18 AM
in my opinion, restraint is not a form of daily trading, because I feel that holding back is an uncertain trade, so it only waits for the price to rise after experiencing a decline.