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Title: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: coingabbarmarket on October 17, 2022, 01:10:45 PM
Researchers at a Chinese state-run think tank have proposed an Asia-wide digital currency in order to minimize the country's dependency on a dollar-based economy.

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.


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Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Ghozrd on October 17, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
Actually it is not easy to shift the dollar, even though the dollar is no longer backed up by gold.

To reduce dependence on the dollar is actually easy, pay foreign debts in the national currency and reduce debt in the form of dollar payments, if the Asian Yuan can do that then I believe the dependence of the dollar will shift to the Asian Yuan currency.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: mu_enrico on October 17, 2022, 04:58:24 PM
I wouldn't touch any product created by the communist party. Why on earth do you think this Yuan is free from government intervention and better than the USD? I'd rather be dependent on a currency from a big democratic country than dependent on currency from a tyrannical government. Just use Bitcoin, gold coin, or silver coin, these are better than Yuan currency.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Speaker on October 25, 2022, 10:29:06 AM
I wouldn't touch any product created by the communist party. Why on earth do you think this Yuan is free from government intervention and better than the USD? I'd rather be dependent on a currency from a big democratic country than dependent on currency from a tyrannical government. Just use Bitcoin, gold coin, or silver coin, these are better than Yuan currency.
I don't think that the choice between these coins is any problem. There was no yuan and there was no talk about it, and everyone perfectly solved their problems with the help of other currencies, more free and understandable.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 26, 2022, 12:24:09 AM
China just wants to expand its influence in Asia to follow other countries economically, then territorially. e-CNY is a Chinese experiment, it is not widely accepted, it will not be able to compete with USD in the global economy. I'm not willing to use CNYT instead of USDT ^^
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: gurunanakji777 on October 26, 2022, 07:49:49 PM
I don't think it's easy to sideline the USD with Asian Yuan. Whom they will ask to use Asian Yuan I know with most countries they have border issues and we all know they are dominating all of them with their power so it is only possible when they will have a good relationship with other Asian countries and their neighbors. The majority of the countries will keep using USD.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: therozaq on October 27, 2022, 11:18:36 AM
Actually it is not easy to shift the dollar, even though the dollar is no longer backed up by gold.

To reduce dependence on the dollar is actually easy, pay foreign debts in the national currency and reduce debt in the form of dollar payments, if the Asian Yuan can do that then I believe the dependence of the dollar will shift to the Asian Yuan currency.

Yeah, not easy to reduce dependency of US dollars, because dollar is most popular than other currency.
I think Chinese should have good improvement to create crypto currency to against dependency of dollar.
But It's just my opinion..
Maybe other has own suggestion what project that more good.
any idea ?
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Astra on November 28, 2022, 06:05:17 AM
China seems to be preparing, if not for war, then for confrontation with the United States. Recently, the Chinese government has been calling on Chinese government and commercial structures to withdraw their capital from other countries, and this may be a way to avoid freezing financial assets during a conflict, as happened with the Russian currency in foreign banks.
At the same time, it has long been predicted that China will create a regional stablecoin, that is, a regional CBDC to serve the Asian market, where China will be given a dominant position. Of course, the goal of such a digital or other currency will be to reduce dependence on the dollar. This is quite natural and logical.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Noverteno on December 07, 2022, 06:21:57 PM
The move was logical after China launched its digitized yuan. Many predicted that after that, China would want to introduce a regional digital currency in order to increase its influence in its region and at the same time weaken the influence of the dollar. We are seeing a continuation of the economic war between China and the United States, which has been going on for a long time.
Now the situation continues to change rapidly due to the ongoing Russian war in Ukraine and the periodic increase in tensions between China and Taiwan.
So far, China does not dare to enter into an open conflict from the United States, since this country is largely dependent on the technologies of the United States and Europe.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: TomPluz on December 08, 2022, 03:14:17 AM


We should always remember that China has the big plan to replace the USA Dollar for international commerce transaction and thus make the USA as just another country and not anymore the big leader as it is now. And China is starting to exert its obvious influence in the Asian region primarily because this area is a major trading partner...so there is that possibility that those conducting business with China will not anymore be using the dollar but its "Asian Yuan" or whatever it will finally be called. This is the big goal of China and it is trying all it can to convince other countries to join its efforts to undermine USA.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Fenix on December 21, 2022, 08:56:27 AM

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.
There is no doubt that China will try to create a regional digital currency in order to try to push the dollar out of the Asia-Pacific region. This was predictable even when China tried to introduce its digital yuan. The trade war between China and the United States has been going on for a long time and the currency used in this is of great importance. In any case, such a regional currency will strengthen the role of China in the Asian region. Well, how it will all end, we do not know yet.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: satpol_PP on December 22, 2022, 07:40:08 AM
Researchers at a Chinese state-run think tank have proposed an Asia-wide digital currency in order to minimize the country's dependency on a dollar-based economy.

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.


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Sounds good, If China will create Asian yuan to reduce dependency on the US dollar.
We should not depend and  always on the dollar.
Better Asian has other currency
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Senin on December 22, 2023, 10:08:14 AM
I don't think it's easy to sideline the USD with Asian Yuan. Whom they will ask to use Asian Yuan I know with most countries they have border issues and we all know they are dominating all of them with their power so it is only possible when they will have a good relationship with other Asian countries and their neighbors. The majority of the countries will keep using USD.
Under the pretext of liberation from the dependence of the dollar, China is simply imposing its yuan. But how will the yuan be better than the dollar? The US with its dollar is more of a democracy than China. And strengthening the financial and economic stability of a communist authoritarian state is not the best idea. Therefore, I personally would not want to use RMB instead of dollars.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Callisto on December 22, 2023, 08:55:11 PM
The yuan can compete with the dollar, but replacement in the global monetary system requires economic stability, open markets and international agreements, which will take time.
This is a complex process, as the dollar has long-term stability and global trust. The implementation of such changes requires broad support from the global community. But still, everything is possible, nothing lasts forever, not even currency.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Callisto on December 22, 2023, 09:04:37 PM
I think that after the introduction of the digital yuan, there will be fluctuations in the market, because we all remember how the crypto world reacted to the ban on mining in China, this mechanism is no less important for the world and in any case there will be fluctuations in the market, so it is necessary to carefully conduct a thorough analysis of the situation when using volume transactions on the market.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Fenix on December 24, 2023, 07:39:06 AM
Researchers at a Chinese state-run think tank have proposed an Asia-wide digital currency in order to minimize the country's dependency on a dollar-based economy.

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.


Read More - https://www.coingabbar.com/en/crypto-currency-news-english/china-proposes-asian-yuan-reduce-dependency-us-dollar
As I understand it, under the term "Asian yuan", it is proposed to introduce a regional CBDC in the Pacific region. But I would like to immediately decide whether such a currency will be a digital yuan or a new digital currency. Because the introduction of the yuan, even digital, will make all states in this region dependent on China. If this is a new CBDC, then of course, let them experiment. But this currency is likely to circulate predominantly in this region and trading on the international market will be difficult due to low liquidity.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on December 25, 2023, 11:20:23 AM
Researchers at a Chinese state-run think tank have proposed an Asia-wide digital currency in order to minimize the country's dependency on a dollar-based economy.

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.


Read More - https://www.coingabbar.com/en/crypto-currency-news-english/china-proposes-asian-yuan-reduce-dependency-us-dollar
As I understand it, under the term "Asian yuan", it is proposed to introduce a regional CBDC in the Pacific region. But I would like to immediately decide whether such a currency will be a digital yuan or a new digital currency. Because the introduction of the yuan, even digital, will make all states in this region dependent on China. If this is a new CBDC, then of course, let them experiment. But this currency is likely to circulate predominantly in this region and trading on the international market will be difficult due to low liquidity.
The Asian Yuan seems to have the aim of introducing the use of the yuan currency to Asian countries, and of course it provides information that by using this currency you can get whatever you want. The main aim is to replace the US Dollar, which currently many people use.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Fenix on December 25, 2023, 11:43:31 PM

The Asian Yuan seems to have the aim of introducing the use of the yuan currency to Asian countries, and of course it provides information that by using this currency you can get whatever you want. The main aim is to replace the US Dollar, which currently many people use.
The Chinese Yuan can be accepted for goods supplied within the scope of trade with that country. Even in Russia, big problems have arisen with excess yuan, which they no longer know where to spend. With India, the problem is of a different order: by supplying oil for rupees, Russia is faced with the fact that Indian banks do not want to withdraw their rupees from the country. Therefore, Russia has tens of billions of dollars worth of rupees in Indian banks, but cannot fully manage them. There cannot be such problems with dollars, since there are no problems with the liquidity of the dollar.

China is seeking to get rid of dollars because it anticipates possible conflicts from the United States, for example, over Taiwan, and receiving sanctions following the example of Russia. And Russia has more than 300 billion dollars in banks abroad, which are frozen and the issue of transferring them to Ukraine to compensate for losses caused by Russian aggression is being decided. Naturally, China does not want similar problems with dollars in the future.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: James Anderson on December 26, 2023, 06:29:58 AM
It is not easy to reduce dollar dependency
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Carbitcoin on December 26, 2023, 08:25:35 AM

The Asian Yuan seems to have the aim of introducing the use of the yuan currency to Asian countries, and of course it provides information that by using this currency you can get whatever you want. The main aim is to replace the US Dollar, which currently many people use.
The Chinese Yuan can be accepted for goods supplied within the scope of trade with that country. Even in Russia, big problems have arisen with excess yuan, which they no longer know where to spend. With India, the problem is of a different order: by supplying oil for rupees, Russia is faced with the fact that Indian banks do not want to withdraw their rupees from the country. Therefore, Russia has tens of billions of dollars worth of rupees in Indian banks, but cannot fully manage them. There cannot be such problems with dollars, since there are no problems with the liquidity of the dollar.

China is seeking to get rid of dollars because it anticipates possible conflicts from the United States, for example, over Taiwan, and receiving sanctions following the example of Russia. And Russia has more than 300 billion dollars in banks abroad, which are frozen and the issue of transferring them to Ukraine to compensate for losses caused by Russian aggression is being decided. Naturally, China does not want similar problems with dollars in the future.
This is all understandable, of course, but China is definitely striving to implement the plan to take a leading position in the Asian region and take advantage of the moment when the world has turned against Russia. Although not without her help
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 26, 2023, 09:28:44 AM
Researchers at a Chinese state-run think tank have proposed an Asia-wide digital currency in order to minimize the country's dependency on a dollar-based economy.

The views of researchers Liu Dongmin, Song Shuang, and Zhou Xuezhi from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) were published in a late September issue of the "World Affairs journal," which suggested the introduction of an "Asian yuan" token. The token would reduce Asia's dependency on the US dollar.


Read More - https://www.coingabbar.com/en/crypto-currency-news-english/china-proposes-asian-yuan-reduce-dependency-us-dollar0

The name yuan already tagged to the Chinese currency and this may not be considered by other Asian countries. I think it is a good idea but the "Asian yuan" may be debated or asked and could be renamed to accommodate all interest on the Asian nations. A good examples is the Euro that stand for the European countries, I think the Asian nation should borrow their approach.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Senin on December 26, 2023, 03:44:44 PM

The name yuan already tagged to the Chinese currency and this may not be considered by other Asian countries. I think it is a good idea but the "Asian yuan" may be debated or asked and could be renamed to accommodate all interest on the Asian nations. A good examples is the Euro that stand for the European countries, I think the Asian nation should borrow their approach.
Asian states clearly need to use not the Chinese digital yuan as a regional digital currency, but a completely new digital currency. They need to protect themselves in case sanctions are subsequently imposed on China by the United States and Europe for actions towards Russia, Taiwan, or for some other reason. In this case, the Chinese yuan may fall sharply in value
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Freemind on December 26, 2023, 07:44:32 PM
What the Chinese government intends to do by implementing the Asian Yuan is exactly the same thing the United States did several decades ago. Make most countries buy Yuan to import and export goods, thus making the Yuan as totally necessary as the Dollar is now. If the intention is to also use CBDC, what the Chinese government will achieve will not only be to control the world economy, but also to know which countries or companies move (or try to move) their money to tax havens.

Whatever happens, if the Chinese government is successful and implements its Asian yuan, tensions with the US government will rise again, and at that moment the rest of the countries should position themselves.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Peter90 on January 04, 2024, 12:55:50 PM
I wouldn't touch any product created by the communist party. Why on earth do you think this Yuan is free from government intervention and better than the USD?

China just wants to expand its influence in Asia to follow other countries economically, then territorially. e-CNY is a Chinese experiment, it is not widely accepted, it will not be able to compete with USD in the global economy.

Whom they will ask to use Asian Yuan I know with most countries they have border issues

Under the pretext of liberation from the dependence of the dollar, China is simply imposing its yuan.

The Asian Yuan seems to have the aim of introducing the use of the yuan currency to Asian countries

The name yuan already tagged to the Chinese currency and this may not be considered by other Asian countries.

Asian states clearly need to use not the Chinese digital yuan as a regional digital currency,

None of you read the article


"The researchers stated that, similar to other existing and trialed Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), distributed ledger technology (DLT) would constitute the backing of the Asian token, which would be tied to a group of 13 currencies.

According to the researchers, the currencies would include those of all ten Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) member countries, as well as China's Yuan, Japan's Yen, and South Korea's Won."


This new currency - which will be used only as international trade settlement, not within the countries - is not the Chinese Yuan.
It is a basket of the currencies of the ASEAN countries + of Japan and Korea.

Those Chinese scholars were following the Euro story.
This is exactly what happened in Europe, with the currencies of the European Countries in the 70es building a basket, called ECU, a virtual currency, which later - in 2000 - became the Euro.





Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: ariaryanto on January 07, 2024, 04:39:34 AM
absolutely right, I agree with what you say... Asia is still dependent on the dollar, if Asia wants to no longer depend on the dollar, it's easy, what you say is true.

But for now Asia can't be independent of the dollar because it's not as easy as we imagine to be independent of the dollar
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Peter90 on January 07, 2024, 12:10:35 PM
What the Chinese government intends to do by implementing the Asian Yuan is exactly the same thing the United States did several decades ago. Make most countries buy Yuan to import and export goods, thus making the Yuan as totally necessary as the Dollar is now.

You too didn't read the article

If you read the article past the title you would read that this new currency would be a currency representing a basket of asian countries: The ASEAN countries plus China, Japan and Korea.
So it would be a new currency representing the national currencies of these countries:

Brunei Darussalam,
Burma,
Cambodia,
Indonesia,
Laos,
Malaysia,
Philippines,
Singapore,
Thailand,
Vietnam,

+

China,
Korea,
Japan


This has nothing to do with what the USA did with their $


Who invented the misleading formulation "Asian Yuan"?
Those Chinese scholars or the author of the article?
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: Jaephoenix on January 07, 2024, 12:49:27 PM
I dont really know if the world is ready for digital assets or blockchain based currencies. Some countries that have launched it have not utilized it yet. For example, my country. There was launch of the digital currency but the citizens, we view it with scorn and suspicions because we don't trust the government one inch
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: TopT3ns on January 07, 2024, 08:59:19 PM
absolutely right, I agree with what you say... Asia is still dependent on the dollar, if Asia wants to no longer depend on the dollar, it's easy, what you say is true.

But for now Asia can't be independent of the dollar because it's not as easy as we imagine to be independent of the dollar
It's true that we can't be independent yet because fighting the USD is a very tough step, but slowly but surely, it seems that currencies like the Yuan are already widely used, and hopefully they can compete with the USD. At least maybe we can also switch to a lighter cryptocurrency, even though the price is unstable.
Title: Re: China Proposes an 'Asian Yuan' to Reduce Dependency on the US Dollar
Post by: damsix on January 08, 2024, 04:32:13 AM
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The global economy is very volatile, making competition between USD and YUAN continue in various sectors.
This thread will also continue to focus on competition from USD and YUAN which can have an effect on the price of Bitcoin.
But everyone has the right to make their choice, there are those who choose USD and there are those who choose YUAN, depending on what they want.
More wisely, perhaps we could combine the YUAN and USD that we own, along with Bitcoin and Gold that we also own so that we don't have to worry about choosing them.