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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2022, 11:44:22 AM »
The civilized community no longer has any other choice than to permanently eliminate the threat that has been emanating from Russia for a long time. The Russian government has committed a lot of deliberate negative actions in recent years, attacking not only its neighbors, but also creating a military threat around the world. Therefore, some of them have already recognized the Russian Federation as a terrorist state. The Russian Federation commits inadequate actions and at the same time possesses nuclear weapons. Therefore, the world needs to take retaliatory measures against this monkey with a nuclear mace. The most logical measure would be to help the nationalities in Russia itself to free itself from the centuries-old oppression of its central government and, thus, the Russian Federation will break up into many separate republics.
Are you out of your mind to write such nonsense? For many centuries they wanted to destroy the Russian people. Russia remains and is a powerful state. Turks, Germans fought with Russians. Nothing happened.

Before you write such nasty things, think 10 times, lol!
The disgusting thing is being done by Russia and the Russian people, who support the war of conquest in Ukraine by about 70 percent. Russia as a state as a whole is now trying with all its might to destroy Ukrainians as a nation, killing them in Ukraine just because the inhabitants of Ukraine consider themselves Ukrainians. At the same time, this medieval horde is rampantly plundering everything that comes their way, raping and killing civilians indiscriminately. This morning, Russia again launched about 60 cruise missiles in Ukraine on the energy infrastructure of Ukraine in order to leave people without electricity, electricity, and water heating in the winter. Even the Nazis didn't do that. They were much more humane and humane. Where the Russian horde passes through Ukraine, only ruins and corpses remain. And yet you still defend their criminal actions?

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2022, 11:44:22 AM »

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #151 on: December 16, 2022, 04:32:31 PM »

Of course the effects are very highly impactful at a present time but in future as like other news peoples forget about it and market starts recovering I am bullish on crypto future and next bullrun bitcoin pump harder than ever because of acceptance is going higher and higher .

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2022, 07:06:07 PM »
no one knows for sure, I don't think that Russia will be written off, too many depend on its gas and oil.
The civilized community no longer has any other choice than to permanently eliminate the threat that has been emanating from Russia for a long time. The Russian government has committed a lot of deliberate negative actions in recent years, attacking not only its neighbors, but also creating a military threat around the world. Therefore, some of them have already recognized the Russian Federation as a terrorist state. The Russian Federation commits inadequate actions and at the same time possesses nuclear weapons. Therefore, the world needs to take retaliatory measures against this monkey with a nuclear mace. The most logical measure would be to help the nationalities in Russia itself to free itself from the centuries-old oppression of its central government and, thus, the Russian Federation will break up into many separate republics.
Not everything is as easy and simple as it may seem, Everything that has been created for decades inside the country-it is impossible to destroy from the inside in an instant and break up into separate states.
@Bliznec. I wonder what in the content of @Alcor's post led you to such a strongly negative reaction? Don't feel like reading the truth about "great Russia"?

Today, Russia fired another batch of 76 cruise missiles into the cities of Ukraine. Moreover, 40 of them are in its capital Kyiv. There is only one goal - to intimidate Ukrainians and leave them without heat, water and electricity in winter. Do you think that this is an act worthy of a normal state? The whole world sees this, which is why the EU has already recognized Russia as a terrorist state, because this is ordinary state terrorism. And what about the wholesale robberies of Ukrainian houses, when Russian "liberators" took out and mailed home stolen toilet bowls, washing machines, video cameras and everything, down to worn linen? Is it worthy of a Russian soldier? What about mass rapes and killings of civilians? Have you seen the numerous "communal" graves of civilians that Russian soldiers leave behind after they are expelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the occupied territories of Ukraine? Everywhere they find numerous torture chambers, where the Russians mocked civilians for pleasure. These crimes are carefully documented and in due time will be presented as evidence in a special tribunal against Russia and its political leadership. There are not thousands of such crimes, but tens of thousands.

Russia has won wars when it fought on the same side with the Ukrainians. Now Russia has attacked Ukraine not only to seize its territory, but to appropriate its history. After all, even the name "Rus", Russian, is taken from the name of the previously powerful state of Kievan Rus, when Moscow was still the village of "Mokva" because of the swampy terrain and belonged to one of the Kyiv princes - the Grand Duke of Rostov-Suzdal and Kyiv Yuri Dolgoruky. Until 1700, Russia was called Muscovy or Moscow kingdom.
In Ukraine, Russia will break off not even teeth, but wolf spears.
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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #153 on: January 03, 2024, 10:27:31 AM »
Almost two years have passed since Russia has been attacking Ukraine with all military and non-military means. Over the last five days of the New Year holidays, Russia fired several hundred cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as attack drones, into Ukraine, which it had been specially saving for several months in order to wish the Ukrainians a Happy New Year. Moreover, most of them fell on residential buildings, hospitals and energy infrastructure. This is fully consistent with the chosen position of the terrorist state.

But Russia is also facing growing problems due to the protracted war. Foreign commercial structures, people and capital are leaving Russia en masse. International sanctions are gradually doing their job. But contrary to general opinion, we have not yet seen cryptocurrency being used in Russia to circumvent sanctions. True, the Kremlin will not make this public, even if it uses cryptocurrency for international trade. But the desire of the Kremlin alone is not enough here. It is necessary that the trading partner also agrees to accept or pay with cryptocurrency. And this seems to be a big problem.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #154 on: January 03, 2024, 12:41:39 PM »
Hello guys. I know we are all knowledgeable about the ongoing brutal war in Europe between Russia and Ukraine. Without venturing into the politics, what do you think the long term effect would be on crypto
it is still running now and that is the sad part, its been on going for more than a year now and still people are dying , livestocks are being abandoned and family are beign scattered to save their own lives.

How can we help ending this? and how can we act to make a better outcome as we knew that we are all the victims here , not the russians and not the Ukranian but the whole world is affected.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #155 on: January 03, 2024, 09:53:52 PM »
When several important countries start waging war, it will have a very serious effect because, of course, a country has products that are often exported to several countries that have already entered into contracts to purchase them for the next few years, so that when the war doesn't stop, it will disrupt the economy. in that country, and the worst possibility is that all countries will join the war until the world's technology is destroyed.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #156 on: January 04, 2024, 02:26:12 PM »
Hello guys. I know we are all knowledgeable about the ongoing brutal war in Europe between Russia and Ukraine. Without venturing into the politics, what do you think the long term effect would be on crypto
it is still running now and that is the sad part, its been on going for more than a year now and still people are dying , livestocks are being abandoned and family are beign scattered to save their own lives.

How can we help ending this? and how can we act to make a better outcome as we knew that we are all the victims here , not the russians and not the Ukranian but the whole world is affected.
Next month it will be two years since Russian troops have been fighting to seize Ukrainian territory. This is the most brutal and bloody war in Europe since World War II. The fact that the international community has not yet stopped Russia is primarily to blame for the UN, which in fact does not fulfill its function and thereby stimulates the aggressor.
Yes, the whole world is suffering due to the inability to fulfill many concluded contracts, but Ukrainians are dying in the thousands, and the occupiers are turning many settlements of Ukraine into ashes and a pile of construction waste.

Cryptocurrency as a whole is not in danger if the war remains local. But most states are gradually being drawn into it, since it affects the interests of almost all states.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #156 on: January 04, 2024, 02:26:12 PM »


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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #157 on: January 06, 2024, 12:55:00 PM »
When several important countries start waging war, it will have a very serious effect because, of course, a country has products that are often exported to several countries that have already entered into contracts to purchase them for the next few years, so that when the war doesn't stop, it will disrupt the economy. in that country, and the worst possibility is that all countries will join the war until the world's technology is destroyed.
There will always be a direct or indirect impact on every war, and it is like a cause and effect that cannot be separated. especially as you said, if it involves an important country where the impact will be felt, we know that that country usually has products that are always needed by other countries. With the impact of war, it is certain that products that should be able to be distributed to countries that need them will be disrupted, and as a result, the economy cannot run well. This impact will not only affect those who are at war themselves, but also all those who are usually dependent on the country at war.However, the short-term or long-term effects of war are certain to be detrimental to the warring country and other countries, either directly or indirectly. There is no other way to say that war is not something that can solve problems but instead adds to them.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #158 on: January 06, 2024, 03:32:03 PM »
When several important countries start waging war, it will have a very serious effect because, of course, a country has products that are often exported to several countries that have already entered into contracts to purchase them for the next few years, so that when the war doesn't stop, it will disrupt the economy. in that country, and the worst possibility is that all countries will join the war until the world's technology is destroyed.
War is not a natural disaster that comes suddenly and for no apparent reason. The most effective way to prevent the negative consequences of war is to create an international mechanism that would not allow war or would quickly and harshly respond to the aggressor’s attempts to start a war.

Unfortunately, today we do not have such a mechanism. The UN can only endlessly urge the warring parties to resolve conflicts diplomatically. In Russia's war against Ukraine, this sounds blasphemous due to the fact that Russia is trying to seize the territory of Ukraine and destroy all Ukrainians who will be against their forced Russification. For Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table is to deliberately agree to give Russia a significant part of its territories (and Russia has already included four regions of Ukraine in its composition) together with the Ukrainians living there under Russian repression, which is unacceptable for it.

The democratic world needs to unite and create a governing body without representatives of authoritarian states, which would have the right to quickly deploy international military coalition forces anywhere in the world to prevent or suppress any aggressive wars.
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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #159 on: January 09, 2024, 09:29:38 PM »
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Are you out of your mind to write such nonsense? For many centuries they wanted to destroy the Russian people. Russia remains and is a powerful state. Turks, Germans fought with Russians. Nothing happened.

Before you write such nasty things, think 10 times, lol!

Please tell me, a citizen of Ukraine, an ethnic Russian, this:
- what are the reasons for this “desire,” as you put it, “to destroy the Russian people”?
- How did Ukraine and the Ukrainians plan to do this for “decades”?
- provide historical facts confirming that Muscovy/Russia have always been friendly to the Ukrainian people?
- When and what legislative acts were adopted in Ukraine aimed at causing damage to Russia and the Russian people?
- Are there any incidents when Urkiana has already shown her “wild militaristic grin” and destroyed the inhabitants of Russia?
- Give the names of settlements that Ukrainians destroyed before 2014 on Russian territory?
- And I would also like to hear arguments in favor of your fantasy “Russia remains and is a powerful state.” just indicate the criteria and numerical indicators of Russia that would speak of greatness and strength?

And back to the topic.
The problem is that these events cannot be assessed as a Russian-Ukrainian war. This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, it is a war between civilization and state terrorism. Between development and degradation. Between a developed community and the wild Middle Ages. Between human values and inhumanity. Between legality and lawlessness... Russia decided, after 2008 and 2014, that it could rebuild the world, return the USSR, and commit lawlessness with impunity. They absolutely openly discussed the topic of 2 or 3 weeks for the complete occupation of Ukraine, and about the cowardice of the West and NATO. But Ukraine and Ukrainians turned out to be too tough for them! And then they fought back, defeating the hordes of these terrorists in the Kyiv, Kharkov, and Kherson regions. After which Russia decided to take a different path - destabilizing the countries that help Ukraine. And away we go - a gas cutoff in the EU, attempts to sabotage the oil market... When this did not work, attempts at “distracting maneuvers” began - as instigation of new regional conflicts. The first “swallows” were military coups in several African countries, at the hands of the Wagner PMC. That they didn’t even really hide it. The goal is to destroy plans to launch gas supplies from Nigeria to Morocco through the trans-Saharan gas pipeline (I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the project). No, the coup didn’t work out in Nigeria, but they happened “along the way” of the gas pipeline, and it’s clear that no one will invest in such a project.
Then the fire of war in the Middle East was lit - the Hamas attack on Israel. No, I will not say that this is exclusively a Kremlin project. This is a project of the Kremlin and its “fellow terrorist” Iran. Iran was pursuing its long-standing dream of “destroying Israel.” And Russia, pushing Iran and Hamas, hoped that Israel and neighboring countries in the region would be drawn into a global war in the Middle East, which would explode the oil market and make, for example, the United States unable to finance defense assistance for both countries. And then everything didn’t go according to plan. Funding, military consultants, weapons and intelligence data provided by Russia did not help. Now carefully watch North and South Korea, there the “obedient dog” of the Kremlin is ready to start a new regional war against South Korea, which will also lead to escalation in the region, and for one thing it will require the US, Britain, and the EU to also divide aid into another a country suffering from aggression.
This is all there is to it - now we are witnessing a GLOBAL terrorist and economic war of a group of rogue countries against the civilized world. And I will assume that the Korean “conflict” will not be the last. The Baltic countries, Finland, and Poland are at risk. REPEATED coup attempts are also possible in the republics that used to be Yugoslavia.

Therefore, the answer to the question of the topic is that the impact is very serious, the consequences are very serious, and very unpopular decisions will have to be made. Otherwise, this will all develop into a global nightmare.

I saw with my own eyes what was done to the “Russian world” in the Kharkov region, I personally saw Irpen and Bucha... I live in Kyiv, and I know what targeted attacks on RESIDENTIAL areas with ballistic missiles are. I know their goals - the destruction of everything and everyone who does not agree to obey and become their slaves or marinettes, or take their side and destroy other countries.

PS sorry for being too emotional, but this is very difficult to perceive and convey “calmly”...

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2024, 07:54:54 PM »
There is no need for war, this world must be peaceful.
We cannot chat well in this forum if we continue to be in an environment of war.
Whether it's Russia or Ukraine or other countries, don't let there be war, we are in a friendly forum and we are all brothers.
Cryptocurrency will also not be affected by a war like this because it is very far from basic concepts but the effect of some news is usually there, maybe a slight effect for cryptocurrency between rising and falling.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2024, 11:18:59 PM »
There is no need for war, this world must be peaceful.
We cannot chat well in this forum if we continue to be in an environment of war.
Whether it's Russia or Ukraine or other countries, don't let there be war, we are in a friendly forum and we are all brothers.
Cryptocurrency will also not be affected by a war like this because it is very far from basic concepts but the effect of some news is usually there, maybe a slight effect for cryptocurrency between rising and falling.
Peace is not easy to create because some people want to show their strength so that war is created, and what's more, when they have a lot of money that is not used, they prefer to buy war equipment to play with other countries. It is human nature to always cause damage in this world. Cryptocurrency will certainly have a serious impact from the war that occurs; perhaps it could also cause the destruction of technology and a return to the stone age again.

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #162 on: January 16, 2024, 12:05:30 AM »
There is no need for war, this world must be peaceful.
We cannot chat well in this forum if we continue to be in an environment of war.
Whether it's Russia or Ukraine or other countries, don't let there be war, we are in a friendly forum and we are all brothers.
Cryptocurrency will also not be affected by a war like this because it is very far from basic concepts but the effect of some news is usually there, maybe a slight effect for cryptocurrency between rising and falling.
Peace is not easy to create because some people want to show their strength so that war is created, and what's more, when they have a lot of money that is not used, they prefer to buy war equipment to play with other countries. It is human nature to always cause damage in this world. Cryptocurrency will certainly have a serious impact from the war that occurs; perhaps it could also cause the destruction of technology and a return to the stone age again.


By the way, this is a big disadvantage of cryptocurrencies. It can only exist in a developed, technological world. Imagine a situation where, as a result of a war and the destruction it brings (for example, I know this, as a resident of Ukraine, what war is), what happens to the holders of cryptocurrencies? There is no electricity, no Internet, no mobile communications... And if you were unable to leave the destroyed or occupied territories, you simply will not be able to use your crypto-assets... It's like driving a Tesla back to the 17th century - it seems like a cool car, and a lot of functions and possibilities, but... you can’t use it

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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #163 on: January 16, 2024, 12:55:59 AM »
By the way, this is a big disadvantage of cryptocurrencies. It can only exist in a developed, technological world. Imagine a situation where, as a result of a war and the destruction it brings (for example, I know this, as a resident of Ukraine, what war is), what happens to the holders of cryptocurrencies? There is no electricity, no Internet, no mobile communications... And if you were unable to leave the destroyed or occupied territories, you simply will not be able to use your crypto-assets... It's like driving a Tesla back to the 17th century - it seems like a cool car, and a lot of functions and possibilities, but... you can’t use it
No asset is perfect in every situation. I know that during war, cash and precious metals are used easily while digital currency (money in bank accounts) and crypto are almost useless when people don't have electricity or internet. However, looking at the positive side, storing and moving crypto in cold wallets or on-chain accounts is easier and simpler than carrying a lot of money or precious metals.

In addition, thanks to crypto, peace-loving people around the world can donate and sponsor the Ukrainian government easily. That money is used for humanitarian purposes: health, evacuation, food, infrastructure reconstruction. In history, we have never been able to do such a wonderful thing!

Praying for the people and peace of Ukraine! Hope this war ends soon ❤️
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Re: Long term effect of the Russia Ukraine war
« Reply #164 on: January 16, 2024, 09:52:51 AM »
By the way, this is a big disadvantage of cryptocurrencies. It can only exist in a developed, technological world. Imagine a situation where, as a result of a war and the destruction it brings (for example, I know this, as a resident of Ukraine, what war is), what happens to the holders of cryptocurrencies? There is no electricity, no Internet, no mobile communications... And if you were unable to leave the destroyed or occupied territories, you simply will not be able to use your crypto-assets... It's like driving a Tesla back to the 17th century - it seems like a cool car, and a lot of functions and possibilities, but... you can’t use it
No asset is perfect in every situation. I know that during war, cash and precious metals are used easily while digital currency (money in bank accounts) and crypto are almost useless when people don't have electricity or internet. However, looking at the positive side, storing and moving crypto in cold wallets or on-chain accounts is easier and simpler than carrying a lot of money or precious metals.

In addition, thanks to crypto, peace-loving people around the world can donate and sponsor the Ukrainian government easily. That money is used for humanitarian purposes: health, evacuation, food, infrastructure reconstruction. In history, we have never been able to do such a wonderful thing!

Praying for the people and peace of Ukraine! Hope this war ends soon ❤️

First of all, thank you very much for your kind words and support! This is very valuable for us!

If we talk about the situation in general about cryptocurrency - yes, in this situation it is a good tool, but with its own “nuances”. One of the nuances is that any solution can be used for both good and bad things. For example, they help Ukraine by providing financial assistance, including cryptocurrencies. On the other hand, other individuals use cryptocurrency, for example, to finance Hamas, which was revealed last fall. But this is not a problem with cryptocurrency, this is a problem with how people use this tool.
And as a result, this may negatively affect the reputation of cryptocurrencies, even to the point of banning them or strictly regulating their use

 

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