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Title: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:43 PM
I don't see any UFC dedicated topic so starting this one.
It's a shameless copy of tokeweed's successful bitcointalk thread (one of my favourites), hopefully it'll get some traction despite the Gambling Discussion board not being super active.

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This topic is dedicated to the discussion of anything related to the UFC including upcoming fights, odds and predictions (it's a gambling board after all).

Current rankings and weight classes: https://www.ufc.com/rankings
Events and fights (upcoming): http://ufcstats.com/statistics/events/upcoming
MMA/UFC odds: https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/ufc-mma

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on January 03, 2024, 01:51:07 PM
I didn't know Strickland vs Du Plessis is happening this month. Their viral brawl was a great way to market this event and I cannot wait for their pre-fight conference ;D I think Du Plessis is the better all-around fighter but I'm still rooting for Strickland. Sean earned a lot of respect because of how he dismantled Adesanya and I think it's better for the division if he holds on to the belt longer.

Fight trailer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjSx2y4gTq8
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: jesuschrist! on January 03, 2024, 08:01:19 PM
Yeeep sherdogers coming in.

Du Plessis will be defeated even in the press con.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 03, 2024, 08:43:30 PM
tokeweed UFC thread stretches to almost 600 pages already and its still the busiest thread up to this day.

the latest FN schedule is Ankalaev vs. Walker 2. they deserved this since the first ended to somewhat very questionable. the referee just stop the fight when Walker answers in the desert when questioned where he was. this time they are in the UFC Apex at least.


UFC Fight Night: Ankalaev vs. Walker 2

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Ankalaev_vs._Walker_2

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 04, 2024, 12:00:56 AM
the latest FN schedule is Ankalaev vs. Walker 2. they deserved this since the first ended to somewhat very questionable. the referee just stop the fight when Walker answers in the desert when questioned where he was. this time they are in the UFC Apex at least.

To me it looked like Walker was fit to fight, but was hoping for an easy win by disqualification. That didn't happen and the fight was declared as no contest instead.
I think Ankalaev will run him over this time. The bookies agree. Although I'm not a big fan of neither of them.

I didn't know Strickland vs Du Plessis is happening this month. Their viral brawl was a great way to market this event and I cannot wait for their pre-fight conference ;D I think Du Plessis is the better all-around fighter but I'm still rooting for Strickland. Sean earned a lot of respect because of how he dismantled Adesanya and I think it's better for the division if he holds on to the belt longer.

Yup. On 21st.
It's going to be an even fight. Sean has better cardio for sure, but DDP is stronger and has a knock-out power.
Strickland is more entertaining so the UFC is probably hoping for him to win. He probably got a massive confidence boost after winning the belt from Adesanya, which will work in his favour.
I like both of them - let the better man win.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 04, 2024, 04:21:26 PM
the latest FN schedule is Ankalaev vs. Walker 2. they deserved this since the first ended to somewhat very questionable. the referee just stop the fight when Walker answers in the desert when questioned where he was. this time they are in the UFC Apex at least.

To me it looked like Walker was fit to fight, but was hoping for an easy win by disqualification. That didn't happen and the fight was declared as no contest instead.
I think Ankalaev will run him over this time. The bookies agree. Although I'm not a big fan of neither of them.


he would have won if the timing was right like Aljamain did to Petre Yan. but before that knee he tried to tease Ankalaev so the guy did his full throttle.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 05, 2024, 12:21:21 AM
he would have won if the timing was right like Aljamain did to Petre Yan. but before that knee he tried to tease Ankalaev so the guy did his full throttle.

Nah, as far as I know, it should've been a disqualification. An illegal knee is an illegal knee. But the referee/UFC were too scared to go against the Muslim audience.
Sure, one could argue that Yan's knee was more intentional etc, but we all know the truth.


Anyhow, thoughts on McGregor's (not yet officially confirmed) announcement of the fight with Chandler at 185 in June?

https://twitter.com/thenotoriousmma/status/1741033599510667650

Chandler's responses:
https://twitter.com/MikeChandlerMMA/status/1741523866810229221
https://twitter.com/MikeChandlerMMA/status/1741544149227049413
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 05, 2024, 03:26:23 PM


Michael Chandler interview with ESPN MMA about his fight with Conor McGregor on Middleweight.

he waited this long for this, he didn't fight for a long time but he is sure off their fight to happen on  June 29.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 05, 2024, 10:15:31 PM
Michael Chandler interview with ESPN MMA about his fight with Conor McGregor on Middleweight.

he waited this long for this, he didn't fight for a long time but he is sure off their fight to happen on  June 29.

Thanks for sharing. Chandler sounds very confident as expected. He played it nicely saying that he's 100% that the fight will happen on 29th June because Conor always sticks to his word. Now if McGregor pulls out or tries to push it back, it'll make him look bad and dishonourable.
The first odds (DraftKings) are in and are slightly favouring McGregor to win, but I don't see it this way, I think Chandler will win it quite easily.
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/event/conor-mcgregor-vs-michael-chandler/29906392
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 09, 2024, 01:09:34 AM
Thanks for sharing. Chandler sounds very confident as expected. He played it nicely saying that he's 100% that the fight will happen on 29th June because Conor always sticks to his word. Now if McGregor pulls out or tries to push it back, it'll make him look bad and dishonourable.
Would you please give us some real fights UFC?  ::)
McGregor in 2024 is old overrated guy and he should better get a new job of official UFC mascot, that is the only reason Dana White is keeping him in roster ;D
I dont think he has a chance against Chandler, but maybe he is going to create another incident or promotion for his other business, he is good in doing that.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 09, 2024, 11:20:47 PM
Would you please give us some real fights UFC?  ::)
McGregor in 2024 is old overrated guy and he should better get a new job of official UFC mascot, that is the only reason Dana White is keeping him in roster ;D
I dont think he has a chance against Chandler, but maybe he is going to create another incident or promotion for his other business, he is good in doing that.

I think so too, McGregor has had that "retired" vibe for quite some time now. He's not yet that old, but he changed a lot. Even listening to his interviews, he seemed to have lost his biggest asset - trash talk abilities.
But as long as there's demand, UFC will be milking that cow, and I don't really mind it.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 10, 2024, 11:06:22 PM
I think so too, McGregor has had that "retired" vibe for quite some time now. He's not yet that old, but he changed a lot. Even listening to his interviews, he seemed to have lost his biggest asset - trash talk abilities.
But as long as there's demand, UFC will be milking that cow, and I don't really mind it.
McGregor is 35 years now, that is not anymore young and hungry fighter like he was once upon a time.
Dana and UFC can milk him for few more fights, and I am sure they are going to offer him some other job in company maybe as commentator.
He lost all my respect after his poor performance and bad behavior against Khabib.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 11, 2024, 09:01:59 AM
I think so too, McGregor has had that "retired" vibe for quite some time now. He's not yet that old, but he changed a lot. Even listening to his interviews, he seemed to have lost his biggest asset - trash talk abilities.
But as long as there's demand, UFC will be milking that cow, and I don't really mind it.
McGregor is 35 years now, that is not anymore young and hungry fighter like he was once upon a time.
Dana and UFC can milk him for few more fights, and I am sure they are going to offer him some other job in company maybe as commentator.
He lost all my respect after his poor performance and bad behavior against Khabib.

35yo can still fight but Conor however has cracked leg.  one cracked leg couldn't stand half his body weight. he will keep his guard on this leg preventing him to carry out offense. when Anderson Silva had this situation, he wasn't the same. his come back fight failed though out the end of his career.

Conor still want to fight though and of course Dana as businessman wanted to give the best UFC fights.  fans still wanted to see Conor though. we wanna see him trashtalk just like Chandler said, he'd gain fights and fans not because of his MMA skills but his mouth.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on January 11, 2024, 02:13:48 PM
Few days to go before the Ankalaev vs. Walker 2. I also think Ankalaev would win this but let's see if he approaches the fight cautiously this time. Hopefully, the illegal knee won't affect how he fights. Is there other fighter we should look out for in this card?

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35yo can still fight but Conor however has cracked leg.  one cracked leg couldn't stand half his body weight.
I'm tempted to say he's also on crack ;D He looks so different now maybe because of the stuffs he snorts or injects (whatever the case may be).
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 12, 2024, 12:01:38 AM
35yo can still fight but Conor however has cracked leg.  one cracked leg couldn't stand half his body weight. he will keep his guard on this leg preventing him to carry out offense. when Anderson Silva had this situation, he wasn't the same. his come back fight failed though out the end of his career.

I think his leg is properly fixed now, I'm sure he had the best possible medical care. The problem is, he most likely used steroids to speed up the recovery process, and that changed him a lot. He almost looks and even talks like a different person.

Few days to go before the Ankalaev vs. Walker 2. I also think Ankalaev would win this but let's see if he approaches the fight cautiously this time. Hopefully, the illegal knee won't affect how he fights. Is there other fighter we should look out for in this card?

Ankalaev was seriously pissed off at Walker for not wanting to continue the last time around. So he'll probably want to rip his head off. I expect him to be aggressive from the start.

It's just a Fight Night event, so no huge names on the main card:
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Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 12, 2024, 07:46:50 PM
Ankalaev was seriously pissed off at Walker for not wanting to continue the last time around. So he'll probably want to rip his head off. I expect him to be aggressive from the start.
I cant see any other outcome other than Ankalaev winning this fight in dominant way.
This card dont have many big name fighters and I looked at calendar for next few events, it is the same situation.
UFC 300 event is something I really want to watch but that is few months away in April  :P
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 13, 2024, 02:03:32 PM
I cant see any other outcome other than Ankalaev winning this fight in dominant way.
This card dont have many big name fighters and I looked at calendar for next few events, it is the same situation.
UFC 300 event is something I really want to watch but that is few months away in April  :P

They've just added 2 fights to the UFC 300 main card: Cody Garbrandt Vs. Deiveson Figueiredo and Weili Zhang Vs. YanXiaonan. But I think I'm looking forward more to UFC 297 Sean Strickland Vs. Dricus Du Plessis or UFC 298 Alexander Volkanovski Vs. IliaTopuria.
There will surely be a lot of good fights before the UFC 300.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 13, 2024, 11:11:14 PM
They've just added 2 fights to the UFC 300 main card: Cody Garbrandt Vs. Deiveson Figueiredo and Weili Zhang Vs. YanXiaonan. But I think I'm looking forward more to UFC 297 Sean Strickland Vs. Dricus Du Plessis or UFC 298 Alexander Volkanovski Vs. IliaTopuria.
There will surely be a lot of good fights before the UFC 300.
I think it is a bad decision to make this main event of the card, but Dana White is slowly making UFC into Titanic sinking ship  :P
From this same card UC300 I really want to see Jiri Prochazka fight against Aleksandar Rakic.
Both of this fighters had serious injuries so it is  going to be interesting how they will comeback after that.
Stakes and big and winner of this fight could soon face champion Alex Pereira.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on January 14, 2024, 02:00:43 PM
Ankalaev won as we expected but I'm disappointed with how Walker went out after all that showing at the end of the first round. He kept circling to the left and then as if he walked right into Analaev's right hand. I guess his last name Walker is there for good reason ;D
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 14, 2024, 06:07:02 PM

his name lives up. the spinning back fist is just not working and he can't also strike straight because he'd likely be open for offense from Ankalaev. Johnny never attempted to take down nor just keep kicking the legs  so he can throw jabs after. 

when Ankalaev caught his kick the first time, the light bulb brightens. he already anticipated to catch it again and he was willing to take a hit from that kick just to catch it. there were already rumors the next fight for Ankalaev will be Poatan. this will be a big fight, maybe Ankalaev will be KOed.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 14, 2024, 11:21:39 PM
Ankalaev won as we expected but I'm disappointed with how Walker went out after all that showing at the end of the first round. He kept circling to the left and then as if he walked right into Analaev's right hand. I guess his last name Walker is there for good reason ;D

He was kind of funny (especially his reaction to Ankalaev's illegal kick to the groin), but looked desperate at the same time. It didn't look like he had any real strategy for that fight and was pulling all the stunts hoping that would somehow work.

The fight's highlights for those who haven't seen it (only 5 mins long):
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 15, 2024, 11:47:58 PM
Next up is UFC 297 with main even Strickland vs Du Plessis.
This is fight for Middleweight Championship and I think small things will decide winner in this fight.
Strickland is favorite but I expected lower odds on him after he defeated Adesanya few months ago.
This is not easy one to predict and rest of the fights on this card are similar.


Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 16, 2024, 06:58:47 PM
Next up is UFC 297 with main even Strickland vs Du Plessis.
This is fight for Middleweight Championship and I think small things will decide winner in this fight.
Strickland is favorite but I expected lower odds on him after he defeated Adesanya few months ago.
This is not easy one to predict and rest of the fights on this card are similar.

I have a feeling Du Plessis will be taking the belt from Sean. But from more logical approach, Sean's defence is pretty solid when he stays focussed and has a better cardio, so that's a slight advantage. The problem is both like to be the aggressive ones who keep pressing forward. If that happens, the risk of brawl increases, which benefits Du Plessis more. So the question is: will Sean be able to stay on the outside and play the long game?
It's pretty much a 50/50 fight, that's what makes it interesting. I can't wait.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 16, 2024, 07:35:09 PM
Next up is UFC 297 with main even Strickland vs Du Plessis.
This is fight for Middleweight Championship and I think small things will decide winner in this fight.
Strickland is favorite but I expected lower odds on him after he defeated Adesanya few months ago.
This is not easy one to predict and rest of the fights on this card are similar.

I have a feeling Du Plessis will be taking the belt from Sean. But from more logical approach, Sean's defence is pretty solid when he stays focussed and has a better cardio, so that's a slight advantage. The problem is both like to be the aggressive ones who keep pressing forward. If that happens, the risk of brawl increases, which benefits Du Plessis more. So the question is: will Sean be able to stay on the outside and play the long game?
It's pretty much a 50/50 fight, that's what makes it interesting. I can't wait.

when it comes to boxing, Sean is superior against Du Plessis.  they fight for 5 rounds standing and Sean will still have the stamina to carry out his strikes. he could do the same approach with Izzy to defend his title.

what could go wrong however is that Du Plessis can take him down which Du Plessis could dominate in the end. he was the first to have hyped to fight Izzy until Sean put himself in the picture. that was the time they both start trash talking  then.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 16, 2024, 11:14:17 PM
when it comes to boxing, Sean is superior against Du Plessis.  they fight for 5 rounds standing and Sean will still have the stamina to carry out his strikes. he could do the same approach with Izzy to defend his title.
I didnt watch Du Plessis fighting so far, and I think he is going to have harder time adapting to Canadian weather and different time zone from South Africa.
Looking a his stats it is clear that is better with submission game, he is few years younger than Strickland, and I dont expect this fight to last all five rounds.
Another fight worth watching is Movsar Evloev vs Arnold Allen, to see if Evloev can continue his perfect 17-0 record.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 16, 2024, 11:51:28 PM
when it comes to boxing, Sean is superior against Du Plessis.  they fight for 5 rounds standing and Sean will still have the stamina to carry out his strikes. he could do the same approach with Izzy to defend his title.

what could go wrong however is that Du Plessis can take him down which Du Plessis could dominate in the end. he was the first to have hyped to fight Izzy until Sean put himself in the picture. that was the time they both start trash talking  then.

Du Plessis is known to be a very awkward guy to fight against. He might not seem like a great striker as he moves a bit unconventionally, but he has been very effective in his striking so far.
I remember him knocking out Roberto Soldic back in his KSW days, when he was in his early 20s. Soldic was a phenomenal striker and was undefeated, but yet, DDP managed to KO him (he lost the rematch though).
As for the ground game - I don't know. Strickland has a wrestling background and allegedly has a very good takedown defence and both seem to prefer striking, so we might not see any ground action at all.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 17, 2024, 08:46:55 PM
when it comes to boxing, Sean is superior against Du Plessis.  they fight for 5 rounds standing and Sean will still have the stamina to carry out his strikes. he could do the same approach with Izzy to defend his title.

what could go wrong however is that Du Plessis can take him down which Du Plessis could dominate in the end. he was the first to have hyped to fight Izzy until Sean put himself in the picture. that was the time they both start trash talking  then.

Du Plessis is known to be a very awkward guy to fight against. He might not seem like a great striker as he moves a bit unconventionally, but he has been very effective in his striking so far.
I remember him knocking out Roberto Soldic back in his KSW days, when he was in his early 20s. Soldic was a phenomenal striker and was undefeated, but yet, DDP managed to KO him (he lost the rematch though).
As for the ground game - I don't know. Strickland has a wrestling background and allegedly has a very good takedown defence and both seem to prefer striking, so we might not see any ground action at all.

looks like its one of the highlight of his career. i don't follow DDP but i just watched that fight, he can box and he caught Soldic in the open while carrying out his offense.  the hit comes out of the blue. but  DDP was winning in the first round, almost rare naked choke.

DDP brings out the worse of Sean with his crying about daddy issues. Sean will make mistakes in the cage, he loses his control recently just want to attack DDP anywhere.  if he wins, his celebration though will quickly end once he learns his next fight is Pereira.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 17, 2024, 11:11:42 PM
DDP brings out the worse of Sean with his crying about daddy issues. Sean will make mistakes in the cage, he loses his control recently just want to attack DDP anywhere.  if he wins, his celebration though will quickly end once he learns his next fight is Pereira.

DDP hit the nerve there, but I don't think they hate each other, quite the opposite, they seem to have a lot of mutual respect. Sean might have made some death threats but that's just what he does.

Here are the video from the press conference. Sean did not disappoint:
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And here's Dricus' one:
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 19, 2024, 12:02:28 AM
I just watched a live pre-fight conference. Strickland said it was never personal and they both shook hands on the agreement to fight to the death or something. It was nice and respectful  ;D

In terms of odds, I'm leaning towards DDP now. Strickland made it clear that he's going there to brawl and will keep pressing forward, which is not a smart tactic for him. Dricus is visibly much bigger and stronger than him so he should be focussing on utilising his cardio advantage. Hopefully, his team will talk some sense into him before the fight.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 19, 2024, 10:29:59 PM
I just watched a live pre-fight conference. Strickland said it was never personal and they both shook hands on the agreement to fight to the death or something. It was nice and respectful  ;D
It is going to be hot MMA night in cold Toronto  ;D
I hear that winter this year is colder and maybe that wont be ideal condition for Dricus Du Plessis, that is my main reason to go with Strickland winning this fight.
It is much harder to defend the title than to win it for the first time, so I am giving Strickland only a small advantage.
Odds are good I think.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 20, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
It is going to be hot MMA night in cold Toronto  ;D
I hear that winter this year is colder and maybe that wont be ideal condition for Dricus Du Plessis, that is my main reason to go with Strickland winning this fight.
It is much harder to defend the title than to win it for the first time, so I am giving Strickland only a small advantage.
Odds are good I think.

I'm sure they have heating in the arena and the hotel so Dricus should be fine  ;D
What I'm worried about is that the fight could be over in the first round. If both go all out from the start, the possibility of a quick KO is high, and that would be a shame. I hope Sean's team talk some sense into him and make him be more tactical.
Odds look fine now, pretty much 50/50 with DDP being a slight favourite. This changed from few weeks ago when bookies favoured Strickland.


Here's the main card for the event:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3xOKa.png)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on January 21, 2024, 11:53:13 AM
So there's a new middleweight champ as Du Plessis defeated Strickland via split decision. How did you see the fight? Looking at the official scorecard, it was the third round that made the difference or it could have been unanimous (2 judges - DDP, 1 judge - SS). Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be a decision but this is a perfect setup for a rematch. What do you think?
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on January 21, 2024, 08:02:07 PM
So there's a new middleweight champ as Du Plessis defeated Strickland via split decision. How did you see the fight? Looking at the official scorecard, it was the third round that made the difference or it could have been unanimous (2 judges - DDP, 1 judge - SS). Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be a decision but this is a perfect setup for a rematch. What do you think?

with the way they fight, i would not give them the chance to fight again if i were Dana. they excite people with their trash talks as if they are about to bite each others ears and then the result was like two kids tickling each other. but now that Dana was also showing some doubts that it was Sean who won then maybe there is a chance.

but i think Dana will bring back Adesanya to fight Sean and then DDP after it to which UFC 300 will have a golden canvass.  ;D
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on January 22, 2024, 03:02:33 PM
So there's a new middleweight champ as Du Plessis defeated Strickland via split decision. How did you see the fight? Looking at the official scorecard, it was the third round that made the difference or it could have been unanimous (2 judges - DDP, 1 judge - SS). Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be a decision but this is a perfect setup for a rematch. What do you think?

with the way they fight, i would not give them the chance to fight again if i were Dana. they excite people with their trash talks as if they are about to bite each others ears and then the result was like two kids tickling each other. but now that Dana was also showing some doubts that it was Sean who won then maybe there is a chance.

but i think Dana will bring back Adesanya to fight Sean and then DDP after it to which UFC 300 will have a golden canvass.  ;D
Yeah, it was a cautious and calculated fight.

I would rather see Sean take the title back in a rematch and then face Adesanya for the defense. Dana doesn't look too happy with the winner's announcement but I think he'll be good with any fight among these three within the year.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 22, 2024, 07:05:24 PM
So there's a new middleweight champ as Du Plessis defeated Strickland via split decision. How did you see the fight? Looking at the official scorecard, it was the third round that made the difference or it could have been unanimous (2 judges - DDP, 1 judge - SS). Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be a decision but this is a perfect setup for a rematch. What do you think?

Great fight imo. Pretty much what everyone was expecting, except Du Plessis didn't gas out in the championship rounds. He looked tired as hell from round 2 but kept going anyway. It looked like Sean didn't press the gas pedal soon enough and let himself lose rounds, especially round 3, which turned out to be a deciding one. Maybe he should've gone for a few takedowns himself.
As always, whenever there's a split decision, people are crying that Strickland got robbed etc, but I don't see it this way. I was rooting for Sean but Dricus was more dominating was causing more damage.

Full scorecard:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/21/kd8C2.png)

Rematch? I wouldn't mind that at all.

but i think Dana will bring back Adesanya to fight Sean and then DDP after it to which UFC 300 will have a golden canvass.  ;D

Adesanya Vs DDP would be a fight that makes most sense right now. That aren't that many options for DDP, maybe unless Pereira wants to come back down to the middleweight or if Chimaev will get a chance (if he's fit to fight)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 22, 2024, 11:26:23 PM
I'm sure they have heating in the arena and the hotel so Dricus should be fine  ;D
Yes, he was hot and won the fight with split decision, but I think that he wont hold the belt for much longer.
This is perfect scenario for Adesanya to come back and win against Dricus, but I heard some people including Dana thinks that Strickland won the fight.
UFC middleweight division needs some fresh blood and new fighters to make it more interesting.

 
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 22, 2024, 11:43:17 PM
UFC middleweight division needs some fresh blood and new fighters to make it more interesting.

Middleweight is currently one of the most exciting divisions in the UFC, second only to the lightweight. Both Strickland and Du Plessis are quite new to top so not quite the "old blood" yet. Plus, with the possible return of Adesanya and Chimaev on the horizon, things can get really interesting.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on January 22, 2024, 11:59:59 PM
Middleweight is currently one of the most exciting divisions in the UFC, second only to the lightweight. Both Strickland and Du Plessis are quite new to top so not quite the "old blood" yet. Plus, with the possible return of Adesanya and Chimaev on the horizon, things can get really interesting.
Not for me it isnt, and I was not impressed with last main event at all.
It was interesting when Adesanya was fighting with Alex Pereira, but he now moved to light heavyweight division.
Compared to midleweight division I like light heavyweight division much more, with Pereira, Hill, Prochazka, Ankalaev, Rakic, Błachowicz, and others.
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Post by: pawel7777 on January 25, 2024, 07:58:10 PM
OK, so apparently, according to Tom Aspinall, the UFC had plans to match him and Stipe for the UFC 300 in April, but Stipe turned it down.
Shame, because it would be an interesting fight, but we all know who will win it and so does Stipe.
I can't really blame Stipe though, he probably has one more fight in him, so will be going for the most profitable option available. And if he loses to Jones, he could still be matched with Aspinall later, but if he was to lose to Tom, Jones will not want to fight him anymore.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/tom-aspinall-stipe-miocic-ufc300-31958493
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"While we are talking about Stipe Miocic, my manager was contacted by the UFC asking if I’d like to fight him on April 13th," Aspinall tweeted. "I, of course, accepted. A little while later we were told that Stipe doesn’t want to fight me, and he is only interested in fighting Jones.
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Post by: notblox1 on January 26, 2024, 12:14:32 AM
For all UFC and MMA fans I have to post this trailer here, and I like that altcoinstalks forum have preview for youtube videos.
You can see Connor McGregor changing carrier and becoming professional actor in new movie Road House  ;D
I hope he wont forget to fight , but maybe Dana White keeps him in roster only for promotion and stuff like this.



OK, so apparently, according to Tom Aspinall, the UFC had plans to match him and Stipe for the UFC 300 in April, but Stipe turned it down.
Shame, because it would be an interesting fight, but we all know who will win it and so does Stipe.
They promised him Jon Jones, so I would not accept replacement in his place.
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Post by: pawel7777 on January 27, 2024, 12:12:55 PM
They promised him Jon Jones, so I would not accept replacement in his place.

They promised him Jon Jones in November, but that didn't materialise. What usually happens when one fighter gets injured is that another one jumps in to fill his spot. We rarely see fights just being postponed by a year or so, as the MMA scene is very dynamic, things change quickly and it could be pointless to push back a fight by that long.
But again, I understand why Miocic doesn't want to fight Aspinall. It's just unfair to Tom who did everything right and is still uncertain if he'll ever get the fight to unify interim and undisputed belts.
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Post by: Zed0X on January 27, 2024, 12:49:33 PM
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But again, I understand why Miocic doesn't want to fight Aspinall. It's just unfair to Tom who did everything right and is still uncertain if he'll ever get the fight to unify interim and undisputed belts.
Yeah, he's in a complicated situation right now. I think it was a mistake on the part of Dana and the UFC to offer the interim belt during the Aspinall fight. It should be these two fighters that should be unifying the belt but then there's also the promise to Stipe. Dana can't just strip Jones if his recovery takes longer and he cannot force Stipe either.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 27, 2024, 03:51:39 PM
Yeah, he's in a complicated situation right now. I think it was a mistake on the part of Dana and the UFC to offer the interim belt during the Aspinall fight. It should be these two fighters that should be unifying the belt but then there's also the promise to Stipe. Dana can't just strip Jones if his recovery takes longer and he cannot force Stipe either.

But no one has broken a promise to Stipe. He was contracted to fight Jones in November, but Jones dropped out due to injury, those things just happen sometimes, it's part of the sport. This does not mean that Stipe was promised to fight Jones in any later date.
The entire purpose of interim belts is to fill a void for when the undisputed champ is out due to injury, with the notion that he will be fighting interim champ straight after the recovery. But this won't be the case here.
So what happens if Stipe somehow manages to beat Jones, will he get the belt? This creates a weird situation when one weight class has two parallel belts in existence.
The fair solution would be to make Jon fight Tom and if Jon refuses, he should be stripped of his belt.
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Post by: electronicash on January 27, 2024, 08:49:35 PM
Yeah, he's in a complicated situation right now. I think it was a mistake on the part of Dana and the UFC to offer the interim belt during the Aspinall fight. It should be these two fighters that should be unifying the belt but then there's also the promise to Stipe. Dana can't just strip Jones if his recovery takes longer and he cannot force Stipe either.

But no one has broken a promise to Stipe. He was contracted to fight Jones in November, but Jones dropped out due to injury, those things just happen sometimes, it's part of the sport. This does not mean that Stipe was promised to fight Jones in any later date.
The entire purpose of interim belts is to fill a void for when the undisputed champ is out due to injury, with the notion that he will be fighting interim champ straight after the recovery. But this won't be the case here.
So what happens if Stipe somehow manages to beat Jones, will he get the belt? This creates a weird situation when one weight class has two parallel belts in existence.
The fair solution would be to make Jon fight Tom and if Jon refuses, he should be stripped of his belt.

it is not fair to Tom though. Jamahal was stripped when he got injured. If Tom the champ right now, he may be scheduled to fight already if not to Stipe probably a rematch with Blaydes before UFC 300. if Jones will not come back after the number of weeks, i think a decision has to be make already.

so many potential fights that is speculated to happen:

Ankalev vs Pereira
Adesanya Vs DDP

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on January 28, 2024, 10:51:13 PM
There are some rumours about McGregor Vs Chandler fighting at the UFC 300 in April, all seem to be stemmed from McGregor's tweet:

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1751103834401730884
"McGregor on 300 seals the deal."

With Chandler responding with:
https://twitter.com/MikeChandlerMMA/status/1751136622098485759
"I accept 🤝 See you soon @TheNotoriousMMA #ufc300"

To me, this is nothing more than teasing, aimed at keeping the interest in the fight alive.
I don't see the UFC going for that though. They won't be throwing everything they got into that one event and it's probably not enough time to build enough hype.
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Post by: notblox1 on January 29, 2024, 02:08:15 PM
There are some rumours about McGregor Vs Chandler fighting at the UFC 300 in April, all seem to be stemmed from McGregor's tweet
I saw they are now saying it is not going to be UFC300 but UFC302 event, but nothing is officially confirmed yet.
UFC300 is already to crowded with so many amazing fights and I think McGregor would ruin this event with his strange behavior and seeking of attention.
I would pick Chandler to win but both of them are old and rusty fighters.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 04, 2024, 01:13:58 PM
Posting the results from yesterday's UFC FIGHT NIGHT: DOLIDZE VS. IMAVOV:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/04/vnwd2.png)

In the main event, Imanov, who was ranked 11th in the Middleweight before that fight got a win by decision over Roman Dolidze (ranked 8th).
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 04, 2024, 01:14:42 PM
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Post by: electronicash on February 04, 2024, 08:16:51 PM
Posting the results from yesterday's UFC FIGHT NIGHT: DOLIDZE VS. IMAVOV:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/04/vnwd2.png)

In the main event, Imanov, who was ranked 11th in the Middleweight before that fight got a win by decision over Roman Dolidze (ranked 8th).

despite the point deduction Imavov won. its a crazy fight  and lots of pounding, i never thought it would end in a decision. Imavov i think is ready to fight the top 5 in the MW.

there are two better fights that end in what was expected like the Radtke and Brown's win.
Radtke doesn't have a nice record but after knocking Urbina is such perfect left, i could say he will be my next bet whoever is his next opponent.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 05, 2024, 12:28:40 AM
despite the point deduction Imavov won. its a crazy fight  and lots of pounding, i never thought it would end in a decision. Imavov i think is ready to fight the top 5 in the MW.

there are two better fights that end in what was expected like the Radtke and Brown's win.
Radtke doesn't have a nice record but after knocking Urbina is such perfect left, i could say he will be my next bet whoever is his next opponent.

Haven't seen those yet, but just watched Moicano Vs Dober.

That was a truly great fight, both of them put on a good show and did not disappoint.
Drew looked better in the stand-up but he also has a solid wrestling background, so wasn't too afraid of them. Unluckily for him, Moicano turned out to be even better on the ground and snatched the victory by decision.
Both are unlucky to be fighting in the Lightweight, which is currently the best weight-class packed with stars. If not for that, they would be ranked much higher than they are right now. I hope Dober doesn't lose his 15th spot in the ranking.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 05, 2024, 08:26:31 PM
I think UFC fight making stuff has become much worse than before.
We have many average or boring events, they cant agree on future fight cards, they announce fights before signing contracts and they do all type of shit.
Just look what they are doing with UFC300 and with UFC299 changing it, removing fights and making a mess.
I am looking at next event for this weekend and it must be one of the more boring MMA events I saw in a long time :P
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 07, 2024, 12:19:49 AM
I think UFC fight making stuff has become much worse than before.
We have many average or boring events, they cant agree on future fight cards, they announce fights before signing contracts and they do all type of shit.
Just look what they are doing with UFC300 and with UFC299 changing it, removing fights and making a mess.
I am looking at next event for this weekend and it must be one of the more boring MMA events I saw in a long time :P

It's impossible to maintain the same level of hype/excitement for a long period of time. Things will get boring, then interesting, then boring again - it comes in waves  ;D
The next event is just a fight night, so much lower profile - a chance for lesser-known fighters to have their 5 minutes. But the UFC 298 is less than 2 weeks from now. Volkanovski Vs Topuria is guaranteed to be a good fight.
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Post by: electronicash on February 07, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
despite the point deduction Imavov won. its a crazy fight  and lots of pounding, i never thought it would end in a decision. Imavov i think is ready to fight the top 5 in the MW.

there are two better fights that end in what was expected like the Radtke and Brown's win.
Radtke doesn't have a nice record but after knocking Urbina is such perfect left, i could say he will be my next bet whoever is his next opponent.

Haven't seen those yet, but just watched Moicano Vs Dober.

That was a truly great fight, both of them put on a good show and did not disappoint.
Drew looked better in the stand-up but he also has a solid wrestling background, so wasn't too afraid of them. Unluckily for him, Moicano turned out to be even better on the ground and snatched the victory by decision.
Both are unlucky to be fighting in the Lightweight, which is currently the best weight-class packed with stars. If not for that, they would be ranked much higher than they are right now. I hope Dober doesn't lose his 15th spot in the ranking.

Dober did prevent some takedowns and even over turned. both have wresting background but if Moicano does have the KO punch, it wouldn't have to go distance and the fight ends in less than 3 rounds.  Dober has KO power, he isn't however in control of the fight.

UFC is having troubles in planning which fighter to fight on the next event. but they are making it a big hype for ufc 300. some are saying the main event would be Pereira vs Aspinall.  Dana already confuse to the suggestions.

(https://i.imgur.com/oR8haag.gif)

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Post by: pawel7777 on February 07, 2024, 11:42:41 PM
Does anybody have any recent news re UFC 300? Google search is showing some weird things for Gaethje Vs Holloway. It's not clear if the fight is confirmed or canceled.
I must be quite behind as I had no clue they were matched against each other

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/07/v3Lkz.png)

(...) some are saying the main event would be Pereira vs Aspinall.  Dana already confuse to the suggestions.

At first I laughed and said No Way. But on the second thought, why not? Both would take that fight in a blink if the money is right. Alex wouldn't be risking anything other than health and Tom is stuck with no good opponent in sight, patiently waiting for either Jones or Stipe.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 08, 2024, 01:12:46 AM
But the UFC 298 is less than 2 weeks from now. Volkanovski Vs Topuria is guaranteed to be a good fight.
I am not so sure about it.
Volkanovski is not the same fighter after he lost from Makhachev two times, and he is much older than Topuria.
This is going to be more mental fight for both and my prediction is another average fight with five rounds.
For Topuria this is the first big fight and I am not sure he is ready yet, but I would like to be wrong about this.

Does anybody have any recent news re UFC 300?
Yes.
Dana White made a mess  ;D
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 09, 2024, 06:04:26 PM
I am not so sure about it.
Volkanovski is not the same fighter after he lost from Makhachev two times, and he is much older than Topuria.
This is going to be more mental fight for both and my prediction is another average fight with five rounds.
For Topuria this is the first big fight and I am not sure he is ready yet, but I would like to be wrong about this.

Depends on how you look at things. I don't see anything wrong in fights going to distance.
Nothing is guaranteed in this world, but Ilia is very aggressive and has a great early-finish rate and Alex has will be super motivated as he's got something to prove. Volk is still undefeated in the UFC's featherweight and he only lost to a bigger and stronger guy who happens to be considered a pound-for-pound champion.
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Post by: notblox1 on February 10, 2024, 12:53:33 AM
Depends on how you look at things. I don't see anything wrong in fights going to distance.
Nothing is guaranteed in this world, but Ilia is very aggressive and has a great early-finish rate and Alex has will be super motivated as he's got something to prove. Volk is still undefeated in the UFC's featherweight and he only lost to a bigger and stronger guy who happens to be considered a pound-for-pound champion.
I think they are both good fighters but Volk is doing some good mental games and I think he has advantage this time.
Volkanovski made a funny new video with one casino before his fight against Topuria  ;D
We are going to see if he is too old like people say or not:

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 11, 2024, 07:00:10 PM
Quick update on results from last night's UFC Fight Night event:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/11/v511l.png)

In the main events, Hermansson defeated Pyfer and Ige defeated Fili.
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Post by: notblox1 on February 12, 2024, 11:57:21 PM
In the main events, Hermansson defeated Pyfer and Ige defeated Fili.
Give me some real fights please  ;D
After series of boring events there is finally one that I am interested to watch with Volkanovski vs Topuria.
There is a story behind main event, old vs young, and there are other interesting fights on that same card, Whittaker vs Cost is one of them.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 14, 2024, 12:07:39 AM
Give me some real fights please  ;D

Don't shoot the messenger  ;D

Hermansson vs Pyfer was not a bad fight though. The underdog (Hermansson) managed to grab a win. The age difference between them is the same as with Volk and Topuria, yet the "old man" had his hand raised.

After series of boring events there is finally one that I am interested to watch with Volkanovski vs Topuria.
There is a story behind main event, old vs young, and there are other interesting fights on that same card, Whittaker vs Cost is one of them.

Yup. 298 is happening this weekend. Full main card:

Featherweight: Alexander Volkanovski vs. Ilia Topuria
Middleweight: Robert Whittaker vs. Paulo Costa            
Welterweight: Geoff Neal   vs. Ian Machado Garry            
Bantamweight: Merab Dvalishvili vs. Henry Cejudo            
Middleweight: Anthony Hernandez vs. Roman Kopylov

Current odds Volkanovski vs Topuria: 1.72 and 2.12 respectively
for Whittaker vs Costa: 1.45 and 2.80, which could be a surprise to some, given that Costa has only 2 losses in his record and won his last fight, while Whittaker lost to Du Plessis. But this probably reflects Costa recovering from an injury and being inactive since Aug 2022.

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Post by: electronicash on February 14, 2024, 08:34:50 PM

Middleweight: Anthony Hernandez vs. Roman Kopylov - looks like an easy win for  Kopylov anything you can add to the list that seem obvious?

Topuria looks invincible and have been choking his opponents and he can also KO them. i'm just unsure if he could do it to Volkanovski. but i'm gonna add Dvalishvili in a $2  multibet.

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Whittaker
Dvalishvili
Topuria
Kopylov

could i win this?
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Post by: notblox1 on February 14, 2024, 11:43:34 PM
It is always good to watch UFC Countdown new episode before each event.
I have to go early with Volkanovski in main event, and I think that Whittaker is going to fight much smarter than Costa in co-main event.
One fight I am not sure about winner is Henry Cejudo vs Merab Dvalishvili, but I would give slight advantage to Dvalishvili.

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Post by: pawel7777 on February 15, 2024, 12:21:33 AM
Middleweight: Anthony Hernandez vs. Roman Kopylov - looks like an easy win for  Kopylov (...)

Why do you think it'll be an easy fight for Kopylov? He's actually an underdog in this fight with x2.8 odds. I don't know much about either of them so have no opinion.


(...)but i'm gonna add Dvalishvili in a $2  multibet.

Quote
Whittaker
Dvalishvili
Topuria
Kopylov

could i win this?

Again, I don't know much about Kopylov, but Topuria and Dvalishvili seem to be good picks.
As for Whittaker, I have a feeling that Costa could surprise him. People don't take Paolo seriously due to how he acts on social media etc, but he can fight and can go for 5 rounds.
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Post by: electronicash on February 15, 2024, 06:23:50 AM

i was just looking at Kopylov's fights on youtube and his records which he has high KO rate. as long as he isn't caught up in a ground fight, he has good TD defense and so he can hurt Hernandez. he probably can do this by KO or decision. if the later, its a bit worrisome since by wearing him out, Hernandez could take the fight to the ground.

i think Dvalishvili is a better fighter, if he defeated Yan who is also a great striker than Cejudo, he could also beat Cejudo.
I think i might be going for Gary too.

I also have doubts to Whitetaker and Tuporia so maybe just 3 parley, maybe just increase the amount. i have very little coins to spend. its bull time.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 16, 2024, 12:31:15 AM
i was just looking at Kopylov's fights on youtube and his records which he has high KO rate. as long as he isn't caught up in a ground fight, he has good TD defense and so he can hurt Hernandez. he probably can do this by KO or decision. if the later, its a bit worrisome since by wearing him out, Hernandez could take the fight to the ground.

Fair enough. Kopylov is on a 4 wins streak, all by KO/TKO, but he had lost 2 fights before that and he hasn't yet fought any top fighter. Hernandez is also on 4 wins streak, so it could be an interesting fight. From what I know, it's a 50/50 fight, so x2.90 for Kopylov is a good value bet.


As for Volk Vs Topuria, I'm having second thoughts here and I think Alex will actually win it. I've seen his recent interviews and he seems unaffected by the last loss to Islam, looks mentally strong and has his head in the right place, while Topuria us getting too cocky with declaring himself a champion before the fight. It's almost like he's masking some insecurities with faked confidence, but I could be wrong.
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Post by: Zed0X on February 16, 2024, 05:33:44 PM
The UFC 298 recent presser was one of the most interesting one to me. Volk sure knows how to play the mind games and I think he won the verbal exchange. Topuria's trash talks looks forced. I think Volk will be successful in humbling the younger fighter.

Costa waking up the old Volk was also funny.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 16, 2024, 11:22:14 PM
The UFC 298 recent presser was one of the most interesting one to me. Volk sure knows how to play the mind games and I think he won the verbal exchange. Topuria's trash talks looks forced. I think Volk will be successful in humbling the younger fighter.

Costa waking up the old Volk was also funny.

Yeah, it was definitely a mental win for Alex. Topuria looked confused and didn't know how to act, so he went a full retard and just decided to be offensive towards Volk and the public. But not even in a witty or funny way, but more of a childish and primitive. Some say he's trying to copy McGregor, but to me, he looks a bit insecure. English not being his first language doesn't help either.
I was rooting for Topuria at first, but now I hope Volk will humble him down.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 16, 2024, 11:26:20 PM
Justin Tafa was removed from upcoming UFC card against Marcos Rogerio de Lima because of the injury, but his younger brother Junior Tafa is going to replace him.
This is big advantage and chance for his opponent to win in this fight, and I am expecting someone to win with KO in this heavyweight fight.
Odds are not bad for De Lima:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-298-volkanovski-vs-topuria/de-lima-marcos-rogerio-vs-tafa-junior-65cfd64026cfeb0001e437d8
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Post by: Zed0X on February 18, 2024, 12:52:12 PM
Well, I didn't see that one coming. It's a good thing that the new champ was able to back it up and KO the old Volk.

Whittaker vs. Costa was a great fight. I think this is also because it's only three rounds where both fighters can do it at a high pace.

Henry Cejudo is done.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 18, 2024, 07:46:18 PM
Well, I didn't see that one coming. It's a good thing that the new champ was able to back it up and KO the old Volk.

Yup, Topuria delivered, big time. Volk is asking for a rematch and is happy to fight in Spain, Dana is happy with Spain as well so I think it has a big chance of happening. Some could say Alex doesn't deserve a rematch, but given his achievements and the fact there aren't that many big names in the featherweight, I think it's the fight that makes sense.

All main card results:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/18/YQ0Wb.png)
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Post by: notblox1 on February 18, 2024, 08:44:21 PM
Yup, Topuria delivered, big time. Volk is asking for a rematch and is happy to fight in Spain, Dana is happy with Spain as well so I think it has a big chance of happening. Some could say Alex doesn't deserve a rematch, but given his achievements and the fact there aren't that many big names in the featherweight, I think it's the fight that makes sense.
Yes but rematch after relative easy KO win for Topuria this doesnt make much sense for him.
Maybe he should first fight Holloway or Rodrigez, or maybe he could move up to different division and fight against O'Malley or Makhachev in a super fight.
He has a perfect 15-0 record so now everyone is going to try and beat him.
 
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Post by: electronicash on February 18, 2024, 08:45:21 PM
Well, I didn't see that one coming. It's a good thing that the new champ was able to back it up and KO the old Volk.

Yup, Topuria delivered, big time. Volk is asking for a rematch and is happy to fight in Spain, Dana is happy with Spain as well so I think it has a big chance of happening. Some could say Alex doesn't deserve a rematch, but given his achievements and the fact there aren't that many big names in the featherweight, I think it's the fight that makes sense.

All main card results:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/18/YQ0Wb.png)

Dana have lots of fave fighters and i think Volk is one so yes he may approve a rematch for him.  Volk had done so much rematch to fighters he beaten but if Dana considers fairness, Volk will have to do a lot of wins to deserve  it.  he was knock cold, i'm not sure if UFC can do that but probably now is the time he should fight Josh Emmett.

Tuporia proved he is a bad ass. but they already know this since Bryce Michell fight. he showed how scared Bryce's face was when his fist was about to land.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 19, 2024, 09:30:09 AM
Dana have lots of fave fighters and i think Volk is one so yes he may approve a rematch for him.  Volk had done so much rematch to fighters he beaten but if Dana considers fairness, Volk will have to do a lot of wins to deserve  it.  he was knock cold, i'm not sure if UFC can do that but probably now is the time he should fight Josh Emmett.

Tuporia proved he is a bad ass. but they already know this since Bryce Michell fight. he showed how scared Bryce's face was when his fist was about to land.

It would make sense for Volk to face another opponent and get a rematch only if he wins, but I think the rematch is still likely to happen, as there are no real alternatives and fitting Volk again will probably be most profitable for Topuria + all parties agree to fight in Spain.
Plus - Volk is not getting any younger, so if the UFC want to honour his past achievements and grant him the rematch, they'd have to do it rather sooner than later.
The real question is whether Volk really wants to fight Ilia again, or if it's just an automatic reaction after a loss.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 19, 2024, 07:11:50 PM
It was a long wait but the main event for the UFC 300 is finally announced. Alex Pereira will be fighting Jamahal Hill (returning from an injury).

The main event might not be as exciting as some were expecting, as Jamahal Hill was never super popular even when he became a champ, and was a bit forgotten during his absence, but it's still a good fight, plus, there are other fights on the main card that are even more interesting, i.e. Gaethje Vs Holloway or Oliveirs Vs Tsarukyan.
I'd say that's good enough and think we could say that the UFC delivered on their promise.

The odds for Pereira Vs Hill are not in yet, but I expect Pereira to be the favourite (maybe not a massive one, but still).
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Post by: notblox1 on February 23, 2024, 12:09:12 AM
It was a long wait but the main event for the UFC 300 is finally announced. Alex Pereira will be fighting Jamahal Hill (returning from an injury).
UFC 300 is a mess of a fight card  :P

Lets get back to upcoming UFC event Moreno vs. Royval 2.
I think this one is going to be super exciting, it is happening in Mexico City so Brandon Moreno and Yair Rodriguez will have big support from the home crowd.
I counted nine fighters with Mexican origin in this card but there are few more with Mexican blood.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/8f/1d/YFR4IZPj_o.jpg)
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 23, 2024, 10:59:51 PM
Lets get back to upcoming UFC event Moreno vs. Royval 2.
I think this one is going to be super exciting, it is happening in Mexico City so Brandon Moreno and Yair Rodriguez will have big support from the home crowd.
I counted nine fighters with Mexican origin in this card but there are few more with Mexican blood.

That's what the UFC tends to do when they organise events outside of the US. They'd try to pack it with as many local fighters as possible to please the crowd and to increase UFC's popularity.
Those two fights are looking pretty good. Moreno has already beat Royval back in 2020 by TKO.
Yair Rodriguez has also won against Ortega but that was due to Ortega's shoulder injury.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on February 24, 2024, 09:04:45 PM
Lets get back to upcoming UFC event Moreno vs. Royval 2.
I think this one is going to be super exciting, it is happening in Mexico City so Brandon Moreno and Yair Rodriguez will have big support from the home crowd.
I counted nine fighters with Mexican origin in this card but there are few more with Mexican blood.

That's what the UFC tends to do when they organise events outside of the US. They'd try to pack it with as many local fighters as possible to please the crowd and to increase UFC's popularity.
Those two fights are looking pretty good. Moreno has already beat Royval back in 2020 by TKO.
Yair Rodriguez has also won against Ortega but that was due to Ortega's shoulder injury.

both Moreno and Yair i think will do it again this time Yair might really KO Ortega, Yair did look good the first time they fight. and Moreno maybe will end in a UD.  it will be a good parlay to add Zellhuber. the fighters in the contender series are ready to build their names.

Dana have lots of fave fighters and i think Volk is one so yes he may approve a rematch for him.  Volk had done so much rematch to fighters he beaten but if Dana considers fairness, Volk will have to do a lot of wins to deserve  it.  he was knock cold, i'm not sure if UFC can do that but probably now is the time he should fight Josh Emmett.

Tuporia proved he is a bad ass. but they already know this since Bryce Michell fight. he showed how scared Bryce's face was when his fist was about to land.

It would make sense for Volk to face another opponent and get a rematch only if he wins, but I think the rematch is still likely to happen, as there are no real alternatives and fitting Volk again will probably be most profitable for Topuria + all parties agree to fight in Spain.
Plus - Volk is not getting any younger, so if the UFC want to honour his past achievements and grant him the rematch, they'd have to do it rather sooner than later.
The real question is whether Volk really wants to fight Ilia again, or if it's just an automatic reaction after a loss.

Holloway wants to challenge Tuporia but also  added that Volk may be given an opportunity to reclaim. not sure how he came to that but because fans love Volk, the question could be a gauge for Dana to approve.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 24, 2024, 11:42:49 PM
That's what the UFC tends to do when they organise events outside of the US. They'd try to pack it with as many local fighters as possible to please the crowd and to increase UFC's popularity.
Those two fights are looking pretty good. Moreno has already beat Royval back in 2020 by TKO.
Yair Rodriguez has also won against Ortega but that was due to Ortega's shoulder injury.
I know they are doing that, and they are reducing costs for tickets and transportation for all local fighters ;)

This is not UFC news, but I just found out that Francis Ngannou is going to fight against Renan Ferreira in his first MMA fighter after getting a new PFL contract.
Renan Ferreira just beat Ryan Bader with a KO in main event of PFL vs Bealltor Champs event.
Do you know I created other topic about MMA and we can talk there about PFL, Bellator, ONE and other organizations: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317167
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 25, 2024, 12:29:09 AM
Yair might really KO Ortega, Yair did look good the first time they fight.

He landed some nice shots in their first fight but Ortega landed few as well and managed to hold Rodriguez against the fence which made an impression of him controlling the fight (until that shoulder injury).
I'm 100% rooting for Yair here, as I really like his fighting style and the entertainment value he brings into all his fights, but I have a feeling Ortega could make a surprise here. I think he'll give up on the idea of having a striking match against Yair and will be shooting for takedowns from early on to neutralise Yair's biggest advantage.

Holloway wants to challenge Tuporia but also  added that Volk may be given an opportunity to reclaim. not sure how he came to that but because fans love Volk, the question could be a gauge for Dana to approve.

I kind of hope Volk will get a rematch. He deserves it and there aren't many better options for Topuria.
Alternatively, Volk could be matched up with a winner of Rodriguez/Ortega and, if he wins, then he could get a rematch. And Topuria could fight Holloway next, unless Max performs poorly in the UFC 300 against Gaethje.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 25, 2024, 03:21:58 PM
This was a crazy fun event, and I feel a little sorry for Brandon Moreno losing, maybe he burned out in front of hot home crowd.
Nice comeback for Brian Ortega after losing two previuos fights, title contender fights are going to be really interesting now.
Dana White said UFC has big plans for Mexico, they opened office there and it is possible to have events all the time there.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 25, 2024, 05:43:02 PM
So my gut feeling turned out to be right and Ortega grabbed a win. I feel sorry for Yair, but respect to Brian for that beautiful art triangle choke.
I think Ortega proved to be worthy of another title shot. Looking at his record, and not counting that shoulder injury, he only lost to Volk by decision and to Max Holloway by doctor's stoppage.
This boils down the number of potential opponents for Topuria's next fight to 3, in order of likelihood: Volk (rematch), Holloway (provided he doesn't get destroyed by Gaethje in the UFC300 and Ortega.

And if the Octagon fights were not enough, there were some fan brawl, apparently uninterrupted by security, because... Mexico.
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All main card results:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/25/YiLS1.png)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on February 25, 2024, 09:51:51 PM

a fight in the crowd whenever there is an event like this seem normal in central and south America. i remember there was also a boxing match where their champ was defeated by a nobody, they were throwing lawn chairs inside the right. the guards only came when the riot is almost over.

Saudi is welcoming Jon Jones! is it possible they are already in the negotiation to have UFC in the desert for Jones vs Francis?   

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on February 26, 2024, 02:32:14 PM
~ Saudi is welcoming Jon Jones! is it possible they are already in the negotiation to have UFC in the desert for Jones vs Francis?
Let's see if oil money could buy Dana's policy ;D As it stands, Jon Jones has to be out of the UFC contract for this fight to happen but he reportedly signed an eight-fight deal. Both fighters will be too old when this happens ;D
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 26, 2024, 11:47:06 PM
~ Saudi is welcoming Jon Jones! is it possible they are already in the negotiation to have UFC in the desert for Jones vs Francis?
Let's see if oil money could buy Dana's policy ;D As it stands, Jon Jones has to be out of the UFC contract for this fight to happen but he reportedly signed an eight-fight deal. Both fighters will be too old when this happens ;D

Dana will agree to anything if the money is right.
As for Francis, it was recently announced that he'll return to mma to fight Ferreira, a PFL champion who defeated Ryan Bader (Bellator's champ) within 30 seconds of the very first round. It sounds interesting, but the date is not confirmed yet, so could be a long wait.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 27, 2024, 12:26:32 AM
I know Dana White will never allow Jon Jones to fight against Francis Ngannou, but I secretly hope Jones will leave UFC at some point  before he ends MMA carrier.
Until than, I will enjoy watching other heavyweight fighters in octagon and this week it is Rozenstruik vs Gaziev as UFC main event.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 27, 2024, 06:59:52 PM
I know Dana White will never allow Jon Jones to fight against Francis Ngannou, but I secretly hope Jones will leave UFC at some point  before he ends MMA carrier.

It's going to be tough one, as Jones was said to sign an 8-fight contract with the UFC at the beginning of 2023, so he still has 7 fights left. At the current pace of less than a fight a year, he will retire before the contract comes to an end.
But anything is possible if the money is right. If Jones was to put his foot down and said he only wanted to fight Ngannou and would rather retire than fight anyone else AND if the UFC would get a hefty share of such fight, then I can't see why not.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on February 28, 2024, 11:25:23 PM
The main card for the UFC fight night this weekend:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/28/fwPi8.png)

Nurmagomedov was meant to be fighting Sandhagen (ranked in the top 5 back then) in mid 2023 but he had to pulled out to to an injury, and now he's match-up against a completely unknown fighter who is having his UFC debut. Almakhan record looks impressive at first with 17-1 but he hasn't fought anyone with recognisable name in his career. Looks like he's more of a striker, so Umar probably will be mopping the floor with him. Odds confirm that with x1.07 for Umar.
It's clear as a day that UFC wants to make him a new star and give him an easy fight after the injury to make sure he puts another win to his record.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on February 29, 2024, 12:47:38 AM
It's going to be tough one, as Jones was said to sign an 8-fight contract with the UFC at the beginning of 2023, so he still has 7 fights left. At the current pace of less than a fight a year, he will retire before the contract comes to an end.
That is a lot of fights and we know he had only one fight since 2020, or two since 2019  :o
He is 36 years old now, and Dana White will try to make him retire in UFC to avoid fights outside UFC.
If Connor could box and be in UFC why Dana is not allowing other fighters to do that?  >:(

Back to Connor McGregor, he is serious about his acting carrier  ;D
https://www.gamesradar.com/conor-mcgregor-road-house-remake-rejected-movies-exclusive/
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 01, 2024, 09:23:13 PM
i can't imagine him winning an oscar. if those guys from the A-team movie are still up to add another of its misadventure i think conor will fit well. they can convince Chuck Norris to join,  that man can do wonders for a promotion.

anyway, Jon Jones at his age still have 7 fights under his contract, he will end up like Tony Ferguson in the end. we hate to see a GOAT retire with the worse loss of his career.
lets say he engages to the Saudis on his own and then Dana finds out, i guess Dana will unleash his  wrath on him. making Jon fight at the age of 45.

UFC Fight Night 238 is up. anyone sharing their picks?

Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs. Shamil Gaziev           
Vitor Petrino vs. Tyson Pedro           
Alex Perez vs. Muhammad Mokaev           
Eryk Anders vs. Jamie Pickett           
Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Bekzat Almakhan           
Matt Schnell vs. Steve Erceg

i just learned YuginKadoya is not around anymore.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 01, 2024, 11:58:45 PM
If Connor could box and be in UFC why Dana is not allowing other fighters to do that?  >:(

Letting Conor box Mayweather was not the same as supporting UFC's direct competitors, as that's how it could be seen if Jones was to fight a MMA fight against someone from a different organisation. The UFC is the biggest in the world right now and doing that would look like rival organisations being on the same level. Not to mention that if Jones was to lose, in the eyes of MMA fans, the UFC would no longer be the home of the best in the world.

Back to Connor McGregor, he is serious about his acting carrier  ;D
https://www.gamesradar.com/conor-mcgregor-road-house-remake-rejected-movies-exclusive/

It's never a good sign if an active fighter takes his focus of fighting to focus on other things. But we all know he's well past his prime.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 02, 2024, 08:16:23 PM
UFC Fight Night 238 is up. anyone sharing their picks?

Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs. Shamil Gaziev           
Vitor Petrino vs. Tyson Pedro           
Alex Perez vs. Muhammad Mokaev           
Eryk Anders vs. Jamie Pickett           
Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Bekzat Almakhan           
Matt Schnell vs. Steve Erceg

Umar is an easy one, but the payout rate for betting on him is so low that it's pointless.
Mokaev looks pretty strong but I don't know anything about his opponent.
As for the main event, I don't recall ever seeing Gaziev fight, but his record is pretty impressive, he's currently on 14-long winning streak, with a mixture of KOs and submissions, indicating he could be a complete fighter. He's x1.48 favourite.


i just learned YuginKadoya is not around anymore.

Wasn't he banned on btctalk? Did he teleported here? If so, he can still post here, can't he?
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 04, 2024, 10:13:28 PM
Full main card results from this weekend's fight night:
(https://i.ibb.co/C7bx4Dd/Capture.png)

I haven't seen the full fight (yet) only the highlights, but I wasn't impress with Rozenstruik at all. Gaziev dominated the fight at the beginning but wasn't the best in managing his energy and gassed out in later rounds. No idea what actually happened to his eye in the 4th (or earlier?), but if he said he couldn't see on one eye, it's a good thing he didn't carry on and surrendered. Although he must be very disappointed right now to finish his 14-long winning streak like this.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on March 06, 2024, 03:19:43 AM
I haven't seen the full fight (yet) only the highlights, but I wasn't impress with Rozenstruik at all. Gaziev dominated the fight at the beginning but wasn't the best in managing his energy and gassed out in later rounds. No idea what actually happened to his eye in the 4th (or earlier?), but if he said he couldn't see on one eye, it's a good thing he didn't carry on and surrendered. Although he must be very disappointed right now to finish his 14-long winning streak like this.
What's not to like? Were you expecting him to go all out from the beginning? It's probably Rozenstruik's strategy to take it easy in the first two rounds and increase the tempo in the third until the final round. The heavyweight is not all about one or two powerful shots that would KO the opponent in an instant. I thought Rozenstruik fought smart in a five round bout and a lot of his jabs were snapping Gaziev's head back.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 08, 2024, 12:12:33 AM
UFC 299 should be fun event to watch in this week, and it is coming after Ngnanou vs Joshua boxing fight.
O'Malley is a big favorite to win but it is always harder to defend title than to win it, and Marlon Vera is not without chances.
Mai card have other interesting fights, it wont be an easy night for Dustin Poirier.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-299-o-malley-vs-vera-2/o-malley-sean-vs-vera-marlon-657abe0c26cfeb00011ae5a6

(https://images2.imgbox.com/75/f4/dnLg9hS7_o.jpg)
http://www.ufc.com/
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 08, 2024, 09:57:18 PM
UFC 299 should be fun event to watch in this week, and it is coming after Ngnanou vs Joshua boxing fight.
O'Malley is a big favorite to win but it is always harder to defend title than to win it, and Marlon Vera is not without chances.
Mai card have other interesting fights, it wont be an easy night for Dustin Poirier.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-299-o-malley-vs-vera-2/o-malley-sean-vs-vera-marlon-657abe0c26cfeb00011ae5a6

(https://images2.imgbox.com/75/f4/dnLg9hS7_o.jpg)
http://www.ufc.com/

though Sean lost in their first match, he didn't consider it a loss because it was all because of injury he got from the kick. i think its a legit win for Chito though.
and Chito in that fight actually was very strategic, he didn't took Sean down hastily after seeing his leg is wobbly. he just continue to follow Sean pressing his to a corner until Sean wasn't able to run.

if Chito can do that again, Sean will this time not look at it as a fluke. this is if he is lucky enough against Sean who is more prepared this time.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 09, 2024, 06:03:17 PM
Here's the main card for tonight's UFC 299:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/y4Vb5.png)

And the prelim card, featuring 2 fights that IMO should've been on the main one (Gamrot Vs RDA and Blaydes Vs Almeida):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/y4rSz.png)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on March 10, 2024, 03:18:34 PM
Dustin still one of the legit old guards in the game after delivering a KO win. Benoit lost a good chance to catapult himself into the title contention but he still has time. I thought he was not respecting his opponent's power walking straight into the Porier's power punches.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 10, 2024, 08:10:44 PM
It was a dominant win for Sean O'Malley against Marlon Vera and we are entering the O'Malley era in UFC Bantamweight Championship.
I was really surprised by such an easy KO win for Dustin Poirier in co-main event, he remains one of the top fighters in Lightweight division.

Dana White was very happy about Francis Ngannou losing this weekend  :P
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 10, 2024, 09:10:46 PM

as bookmakers fav Sean won. it think some bettors have seen this thing to happen in the future that Sean will win in UD which the trilogy will eventually happen just as he asked for a 3rd fight even before this fight started.  because he wants a trilogy, i guess the appropriate end of the fight is UD. this should have been a plan for Dana in order for the promotion to make money, isn't it?

yep as expected Dana happy about Francis lost against AJ. it must be his time to say karma. fortunately for Francis, he got $20M. its what i have read on some channel.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 12, 2024, 12:36:19 AM
Dustin still one of the legit old guards in the game after delivering a KO win. Benoit lost a good chance to catapult himself into the title contention but he still has time. I thought he was not respecting his opponent's power walking straight into the Porier's power punches.

Saint-Denis got some reality-check, fighting no-names is not the same as fighting guys from the top 5, but I don't think that loss would hurt his career in any way. He still managed to present himself well and caused Poirier a lot of troubles in the first round.
I'm happy for Dustin though, he deserved that win.

It was a dominant win for Sean O'Malley against Marlon Vera and we are entering the O'Malley era in UFC Bantamweight Championship.

I don't like O'Malley as a human being and I don't like what he represents, but I have to give him credit when it's due - he's a solid and consistent fighter. That being said I don't think he's too enthusiastic about building his legacy in the Bantamweight. He's probably not looking forward to a fight against Dvalishvili, that's why he called out Ilia instead, which is a very good move. Losing to Topuria would bring him no shame at all, he would earn tonnes of money and by calling him out makes him look brave and confident in the eyes of the fans.
Sadly, Dana wasn't happy with the idea in the post-fight press conference.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 13, 2024, 12:05:50 AM
I don't like O'Malley as a human being and I don't like what he represents, but I have to give him credit when it's due - he's a solid and consistent fighter. That being said I don't think he's too enthusiastic about building his legacy in the Bantamweight. He's probably not looking forward to a fight against Dvalishvili, that's why he called out Ilia instead, which is a very good move. Losing to Topuria would bring him no shame at all, he would earn tonnes of money and by calling him out makes him look brave and confident in the eyes of the fans.
I first thought he was a clown because of his haircut and crazy behavior but I think he is doing all this just a show, he is much better person in real life.
He is a great fighter and I think he is just getting started in UFC, I would like to see him fight in different weight class and division, maybe Featherweigh.
Topuria vs O'Malley sounds great to me.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 13, 2024, 12:15:30 AM
I first thought he was a clown because of his haircut and crazy behavior but I think he is doing all this just a show, he is much better person in real life.
He is a great fighter and I think he is just getting started in UFC, I would like to see him fight in different weight class and division, maybe Featherweigh.
Topuria vs O'Malley sounds great to me.

I don't dislike him because of his appearance, but more of what kind of person he is in his life. I had some sympathy for him when he was emerging, as I liked his style, but when I heard him publically disrespecting his wife by saying he cheats on her + pretending to be some sort of superstar - that's when I stop caring.

I think the fight with Topuria could happen, but probably not yet. I think Dana will want them both to get more title defences, hype them both up to a higher level and then do a super-fight.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 13, 2024, 11:57:04 PM
I don't dislike him because of his appearance, but more of what kind of person he is in his life. I had some sympathy for him when he was emerging, as I liked his style, but when I heard him publically disrespecting his wife by saying he cheats on her + pretending to be some sort of superstar - that's when I stop caring.
I didnt listen to him speak outside octagon much.
I know only few MMA fighters who are family man and they would never say that, one is Khabib and he is retired, other one is Stipe Miocic.
For all others I cant guarantee and I dont know what they are saying or doing, but they can always change their ways.
Anyway, O'Malley is now medically suspended indefinitely because of injuries after his last fight.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 15, 2024, 06:36:29 PM
(...)
Anyway, O'Malley is now medically suspended indefinitely because of injuries after his last fight.

I wasn't aware medical suspension was even a thing, but seems like a routine thing. He'll probably need to go through some testing after recovering and will be good to go.


One month left until UFC 300 and Tsarukyan vs Oliveira fight, and Charles recently posted in Instagram, that he has got a cut.
(...)
I hope that does not interfere and wont influence on his performance, or the fight got cancelled (previously, Olivera got eye cut in 2 weeks before fight against Makhachev and the fight got cancelled). Btw, he is an underdog in a fight against Tsarukyan.

Some disturbing news emerged about Oliveira getting cut again:
https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-charles-oliveira-injury-hell-call-for-islam-in-june-pull-out-scare-from-ex-lw-champ-has-fans-worried-for-ufc-300/
That's not good. It's hard to judge how deep the cut was from that photo alone, but if it's deep, the healing could take longer than a month. Quick search by google tells me it can take 2-3 months for larger cuts.
If it's deep, I hope his team contacted UFC to make sure he gets the best available care to speed the recovery.
If he pulls out again, that would be a disaster. Although there's still enough time to find a back-up fighter (unless they already have one). Looking at the possible options from the 155 class, the most probable back up would be Chandler (if he still wants to fight) or Gamrot (who already defeated Arman once and came out of his fight against Dos Anjos victorious and unharmed.

Even if the cut is not very serious, it could still affect Oliveira's preparation quite significantly, as he probably won't be able to do hard sparring, whether striking or grappling.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 15, 2024, 08:43:47 PM

Dana will send his mob to Charles door if he cancels his fight.
this cut seem like a small cut only and Charles always has a cut in every fight. he must be used to it already. unless he wants to really avoid Arman because he wants to fight Islam again so he wanna makes this an excuse.   

Chandler is not fighting Arman either. he is too stubborn and he will wait for Conor no matter what. he did have lot of chances in the last few UFC events but his eyes is fixed to Conor.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 15, 2024, 11:50:03 PM
Some disturbing news emerged about Oliveira getting cut again
This looks like a serious cut and I would not risk getting this thing opened early, it is better for it to fully heal.
Look Nate Diaz and his brother, they had so much of this cuts that it is very easy for them to open wounds and blead like crazy.

Update from Conor McGregor about his return to MMA:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/3/15/24101880/conor-mcgregor-on-his-return-to-mma-it-keeps-getting-pushed-back-then-i-lose-interest
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 17, 2024, 06:55:43 PM
Full results of the last night's fight night main card:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/17/JNkbd.png)

The main event fight was short and intense, for a moment it looked like Tuivasa was about to KO Tybura, but Marcin used his reach advantage to keep him away and then went for that takedown which resulted in some nice ground-and-pound from a back-mount position and later in a clumsy but effective rear naked choke.
I don't think either of them could go for the full five rounds, so early finish was more than certain.
Big win for Tybura. I don't think he'll ever get a chance for a title shot at this stage of his career, but he proved to belong in the top 10.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 17, 2024, 10:23:53 PM
Full results of the last night's fight night main card:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/17/JNkbd.png)

The main event fight was short and intense, for a moment it looked like Tuivasa was about to KO Tybura, but Marcin used his reach advantage to keep him away and then went for that takedown which resulted in some nice ground-and-pound from a back-mount position and later in a clumsy but effective rear naked choke.
I don't think either of them could go for the full five rounds, so early finish was more than certain.
Big win for Tybura. I don't think he'll ever get a chance for a title shot at this stage of his career, but he proved to belong in the top 10.

i couldn't resist betting for Tuivasa since he is younger and i though he would do his best for he already have 3 consecutive loss. it should be a wake up call for him.

(https://i.imgur.com/pP5ZPQx.png)

i was right in rooting for him to win until that takedown.  yep he is still not successful this time. i think Dana will give him a last warning this time. he used to be a big shocker for AU fans. such an early decline for his age.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 19, 2024, 09:48:57 PM
What do you think about upcoming fight card?
Rose Namajunas is coming back after two loses in a row, but I think this is a great chance for her to come back with a win against Amanda Ribas.
I suggest watching all other fights starting from early prelims with heavyweight fight between Mohammed Usman and Mick Parkin.
There are few more interesting fight and venue is UFC apex so this could be advantage to some of them.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/bd/9e/GaChdLrh_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 20, 2024, 07:33:19 PM
i couldn't resist betting for Tuivasa since he is younger and i though he would do his best for he already have 3 consecutive loss. it should be a wake up call for him.
(...)
Personally I would avoid betting on fighters that are desperate for a win. Some of them would get healthy motivation from that but, for most, it's a factor that has a rather detrimental effect on performance (i.e. makes it harder to stay calm and composed etc).

What do you think about upcoming fight card?
Rose Namajunas is coming back after two loses in a row, but I think this is a great chance for her to come back with a win against Amanda Ribas.

I'm not a big fan of female MMA and I'm not familiar with Ribas at all. But Rose has a history of inconsistent fights and was mixing phenomenal performances with really poor ones.
I was expecting her to move down back to the strawweight but looks like they are fighting in the flyweight. Funnily enough, Rose is not listed in rankings for any of those weight classes but is showing as No. 8 in pound-for-pound ranking for active fighters as per the UFC website:
https://www.ufc.com/rankings
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 20, 2024, 08:38:40 PM
i couldn't resist betting for Tuivasa since he is younger and i though he would do his best for he already have 3 consecutive loss. it should be a wake up call for him.
(...)
Personally I would avoid betting on fighters that are desperate for a win. Some of them would get healthy motivation from that but, for most, it's a factor that has a rather detrimental effect on performance (i.e. makes it harder to stay calm and composed etc).

What do you think about upcoming fight card?
Rose Namajunas is coming back after two loses in a row, but I think this is a great chance for her to come back with a win against Amanda Ribas.

I'm not a big fan of female MMA and I'm not familiar with Ribas at all. But Rose has a history of inconsistent fights and was mixing phenomenal performances with really poor ones.
I was expecting her to move down back to the strawweight but looks like they are fighting in the flyweight. Funnily enough, Rose is not listed in rankings for any of those weight classes but is showing as No. 8 in pound-for-pound ranking for active fighters as per the UFC website:
https://www.ufc.com/rankings

Rose somehow had toppled big names. i wasn't also rooting for her when she fought Zhang Weili, but then she upset the fight easily. wish she could do it again to recover from her 2 loss.

this fight night card by the way is full of unknown fighters. its just the main event that people will be watching this.
i have read also people are watching the HW fight of Mohammed Usman vs. Mick Parkin, not really familiar about them but they seem to expect something on this fight. Parkin is undefeated and then Usman's physique is quite a monster.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 21, 2024, 02:15:29 PM
McGregor Vs Chandler is finally set according to many news sites, quoting Mcregor's announcement from yesterday's interview.
He confirmed that the fight will happen in the summer and confirmed Chandler as the opponent. He did not state the exact date or the weight class, saying he will leave the details to be officially announced by the UFC.

Link:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/3/20/24107171/conor-mcgregor-says-ufc-return-is-finally-set-this-summer-the-mac-is-back
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 21, 2024, 11:36:52 PM
New movie Road House was just released in theaters and it is going to be interesting for all UFC and MMA fans!
One of the main roles in movie is played by Conor McGregor, ex UFC champion now turned actor  ;D
Jake Gyllenhaal is the main role in movie and he is known from movies Donnie Darko and The Day After Tomorrow.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 23, 2024, 07:32:39 PM
McGregor Vs Chandler is finally set according to many news sites, quoting Mcregor's announcement from yesterday's interview.
He confirmed that the fight will happen in the summer and confirmed Chandler as the opponent. He did not state the exact date or the weight class, saying he will leave the details to be officially announced by the UFC.

Link:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/3/20/24107171/conor-mcgregor-says-ufc-return-is-finally-set-this-summer-the-mac-is-back

so Dana finally booked Conor finally, he wishes not to sign a new contract for he wants to fight in boxing with Pacquiao but it seem like Dana doesn't want to release Conor thats why this fight took to long to materialize that's what rumors were saying which Dana wants him to sign a new contract before they can give a go for Chandler vs Conor fight.

rumors are rumors, they are saying aalso that Dana wants a deal to also get commission for Pacquaio vs Conor, so a discussion has to made.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 23, 2024, 10:29:08 PM
so Dana finally booked Conor finally, he wishes not to sign a new contract for he wants to fight in boxing with Pacquiao but it seem like Dana doesn't want to release Conor thats why this fight took to long to materialize that's what rumors were saying which Dana wants him to sign a new contract before they can give a go for Chandler vs Conor fight.
Good for him, but I am prediction he is going to lose that fight.
Dana and his UFC fight policy is sometimes very stupid, and he only allows Conor to play with boxing  :P
I watched the new movie Road House and it is garbage, but Conor was decent as actor with negative role.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on March 24, 2024, 02:56:08 PM
UFC Bite Night or Ultimate Biting Championship was the popular caption that describes the latest event. Igor Severino was disqualified after biting Lima's biceps. What's worst is he even denied it when the ref told him he bit his opponent. After the incident, Dana announced that he was also cut off from the UFC. It's such a shame because it was also his debut (wasted opportunity). If you look at the nasty bite, I didn't think you could do that with a mouth piece on.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on March 24, 2024, 08:54:51 PM

Igor is a dick. the guy couldn't pin down Lima so he resorted to biting.

so Dana finally booked Conor finally, he wishes not to sign a new contract for he wants to fight in boxing with Pacquiao but it seem like Dana doesn't want to release Conor thats why this fight took to long to materialize that's what rumors were saying which Dana wants him to sign a new contract before they can give a go for Chandler vs Conor fight.
Good for him, but I am prediction he is going to lose that fight.
Dana and his UFC fight policy is sometimes very stupid, and he only allows Conor to play with boxing  :P
I watched the new movie Road House and it is garbage, but Conor was decent as actor with negative role.

this time its different. it looks like Dana doesn't want him to fight and doesn't want to get out of UFC.

Dana faces lots of challenges nowadays and he needs to tight the leash to his dogs since in the politics side, he is about to get grilled. He is a Trump supporter and there are group in politics that is probably harassing him using the UFC fighters that he didn't pay well during their prime.  Demetrius Johnson is joining that fight too. Conor is also becoming hostile in politics, especially in Ireland. they need Conor on the leash too and UFC got him by the neck.


Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 25, 2024, 07:30:57 PM
Rose Namajunas got the job done, but it was not an easy fight for her. Ribas was ranked 8th in the Flyweight, so it's not a massive win for Rose, a former Strawweight champion.
She wasn't looking bad, landed few really nice strikes, but didn't look as hungry and sharp as in her prime years. Not quite sure why is she sticking to the Flyweight rather than going down to where she had the most success. Maybe cutting weight to 115 pounds is too much strain on her body.
At least she'll jump back into the top 15 rank, I'm imagining she'll jump at least to 8th place of the Flyweight.

I have no clue what went through Da Silva's mind when he decided it's a good idea to bite his opponent. He's UFC adventure ended as soon as it started. Maybe they should start doing some basic IQ/psychological testing before signing up new fighters.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on March 25, 2024, 09:59:51 PM
Rose Namajunas got the job done, but it was not an easy fight for her. Ribas was ranked 8th in the Flyweight, so it's not a massive win for Rose, a former Strawweight champion.
She wasn't looking bad, landed few really nice strikes, but didn't look as hungry and sharp as in her prime years. Not quite sure why is she sticking to the Flyweight rather than going down to where she had the most success. Maybe cutting weight to 115 pounds is too much strain on her body.
At least she'll jump back into the top 15 rank, I'm imagining she'll jump at least to 8th place of the Flyweight.
She is done with strawweight category.
It is much harder for woman to keep weight under certain limit, and she was not feeling good doing preparation with no water drinking.
I never understood this stupid weight rules in UFC when everyone is cheating to get their weight.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on March 28, 2024, 01:49:02 PM
I'm going to ignore the upcoming two fight nights and go straight to UFC 300 (Pereira vs. Hill). The whole card looks stacked! I cannot believe that the Jiří Procházka and Aljamain Sterling respective
fights have been demoted to prelims.

The early prelims (Bantamweight Bout - Deiveson Figueiredo vs Cody Garbrandt) is a banger as well. I would be surprised if this doesn't end in a KO/TKO.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 28, 2024, 03:36:11 PM
I'm going to ignore the upcoming two fight nights and go straight to UFC 300 (Pereira vs. Hill). The whole card looks stacked! I cannot believe that the Jiří Procházka and Aljamain Sterling respective
fights have been demoted to prelims.

The early prelims (Bantamweight Bout - Deiveson Figueiredo vs Cody Garbrandt) is a banger as well. I would be surprised if this doesn't end in a KO/TKO.

The entire early-prelims looks way better than any of the UFC Fight Night main cards:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/28/VSKjC.png)

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have it that packed, especially when they struggle to make the "non-numbered" events interesting.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on March 31, 2024, 07:46:05 PM
Looks like good old Weidman still has it in him. Despite being 39 he looked really motivated and hungry for a fight. They both pulled off a nice show for the fans.
You don't always get a TKO granted from a double-eye poke, but a win is a win. And it opens a possibility for a rematch.
Even without the controversial ending Chris looked better than Silva and won the first two rounds (at least that's what I got from the fight highlights I've just watched).

The main card results:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/31/VTip1.png)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 01, 2024, 10:28:57 PM
Looks like good old Weidman still has it in him. Despite being 39 he looked really motivated and hungry for a fight. They both pulled off a nice show for the fans.
You don't always get a TKO granted from a double-eye poke, but a win is a win. And it opens a possibility for a rematch.
Even without the controversial ending Chris looked better than Silva and won the first two rounds (at least that's what I got from the fight highlights I've just watched).
He won, but many people are saying that it was a dirty controversial win because of eye poking.
I never liked him and his fighting skills, but reach advantage was crucial advantage in this fight, and his long fingers ;D
Weidman is soon going to be 40 years old, and maybe it is better to retire with a win than to continue with a rematch.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 02, 2024, 04:31:59 PM
Yeah, it wasn't a clean victory for Weidman but I don't think Dana would care that much about the fight. Silva is planning to appeal the decision to a no contest but I doubt it will end in his favor.

The discussion now is if the UFC would make policy changes to reduce eye pokes. Intentional or not, it still affects the outcome of the fight. Maybe it's time to change gloves?
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 02, 2024, 09:14:48 PM
Yeah, it wasn't a clean victory for Weidman but I don't think Dana would care that much about the fight. Silva is planning to appeal the decision to a no contest but I doubt it will end in his favor.

The discussion now is if the UFC would make policy changes to reduce eye pokes. Intentional or not, it still affects the outcome of the fight. Maybe it's time to change gloves?

once in a fight i think is enough and that the fighter should avoid stretching his fingers to the man's face but weidman did it twice. it already meant he intentionally mean to do it.  and then he celebrates in the last round like he did the most remarkable fight of the night KO. he still think like he was once the most famous man that day when he defeat Silva who was showboating and he got lucky for it.

i think his father would not shout that's my boy this time. that's cheating.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 02, 2024, 10:20:06 PM
He won, but many people are saying that it was a dirty controversial win because of eye poking.
I never liked him and his fighting skills, but reach advantage was crucial advantage in this fight, and his long fingers ;D
;D
I think the referee is much more to blame here, but I don't like how Weidman was celebrating his dirty win knowing what he did.

What do you guys think about Bo Nickal? He's rarely discussed in this thread. Obviously he's getting fast tracked to be a nef UFC superstar and have an impressive 5-0-0 record with all being first round finishes: 2 KOs and 3 submissions - all scored on "no-names", and his next opponent is also not really well-known either (which begs a question on why is it a main card fight of the UFC 300, when much more established fighters are on prelims or early-prelims). But I like how hardworking and dedicated he is. If the hype is real, he might be an American response to all the successful Dagestani/Chechen fighters. I wouldn't mind seeing him matched up against Khamzat.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 02, 2024, 11:45:00 PM
What do you guys think about Bo Nickal? He's rarely discussed in this thread.
I heard about from his wrestling history but he is still fresh in MMA.
He started in DW Contender Series few years ago, and I think he only had two fights in UFC, so it is to early to say.
Maybe I can comment more after I see him fighting with other top fighters, but I think he is going to struggle in stand up.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 06, 2024, 02:20:29 PM
I heard about from his wrestling history but he is still fresh in MMA.
He started in DW Contender Series few years ago, and I think he only had two fights in UFC, so it is to early to say.
Maybe I can comment more after I see him fighting with other top fighters, but I think he is going to struggle in stand up.

He's a top-level wrestler who went into MMA after failing Olympic trials. Currently, his mma record is 5-0 but yeah, he has not yet faced any top opponent. Dana White is a big believer in him, as he put him on the main card of the UFC 300 despite much more recognisable fighters being placed in prelims or early prelims.
His next opponent is Cody Brundage, a 10-5 unranked fighter who is hardly a top fighter. But Brundage has a good finish ratio, so maybe he'll be able to test Bo more than his previous opponents.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 06, 2024, 08:11:56 PM
He's a top-level wrestler who went into MMA after failing Olympic trials. Currently, his mma record is 5-0 but yeah, he has not yet faced any top opponent. Dana White is a big believer in him, as he put him on the main card of the UFC 300 despite much more recognisable fighters being placed in prelims or early prelims.
His next opponent is Cody Brundage, a 10-5 unranked fighter who is hardly a top fighter. But Brundage has a good finish ratio, so maybe he'll be able to test Bo more than his previous opponents.
Olympians are great athletes but coming to MMA and UFC is a completely different story.
Wrestling is important but he needs to have other skills, and he needs more training and experience with boxing, kicking and standup.
Brundage coming from Muay Thai will be a challenge for Nickal, but Nickal has reach advantage.
UFC made a mess with UFC 300 but it should be interesting event to watch.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 06, 2024, 10:07:59 PM
He's a top-level wrestler who went into MMA after failing Olympic trials. Currently, his mma record is 5-0 but yeah, he has not yet faced any top opponent. Dana White is a big believer in him, as he put him on the main card of the UFC 300 despite much more recognisable fighters being placed in prelims or early prelims.
His next opponent is Cody Brundage, a 10-5 unranked fighter who is hardly a top fighter. But Brundage has a good finish ratio, so maybe he'll be able to test Bo more than his previous opponents.
Olympians are great athletes but coming to MMA and UFC is a completely different story.
Wrestling is important but he needs to have other skills, and he needs more training and experience with boxing, kicking and standup.
Brundage coming from Muay Thai will be a challenge for Nickal, but Nickal has reach advantage.
UFC made a mess with UFC 300 but it should be interesting event to watch.

and Nickal also have a ko punch. though we haven't seen him fought someone from the higher rank, i think he can actually make it to the top one day. the guy is massive so he is very noticeable in the UFC but he is taking the slow route from being part of the contender series to fighting in UFC for the 3rd time. if Dana favored him, he would have fight already the top fighters immediately like just like Alex Pereira.

i think he may just reach there after this fight and he is ready to fight someone like Khamzat.  Nickal as big as he is will likely not duck Khamzat.

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 07, 2024, 11:31:11 PM
The last event's main card results:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/07/Vb2al.png)

They say a win is a win, but that's not the kind of win Allen will be proud of. He was in real trouble as Curtis put him on wobbly legs and if he pressed harder, he probably could finish Allen with a KO.
I believe Allen was originally scheduled to fight Vettori, and I think Marvin is on a higher level than Allen.
It was a good fight to watch though as both of them went all out and were not saving themselves, to the point both had to sit down on the floor right after the final buzz.
I don't expect it will affect the ranking positions of either of them.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 08, 2024, 06:06:40 AM
Curtis causing problems to Allen again even after taking the fight on short notice. The fight could have gone either way but I still find it crazy that one judge scored it 49-46. Anyway, it was still a great fight. These two deserve a rubber match.



It's finally the fight week for UFC 300!

I'm taking the following on single:
Charles Oliveira @2.80 (vs.  Arman Tsarukyan)
Max Holloway @2.50 (vs. Justin Gaethje)

At least one of them is going to win their fight.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 08, 2024, 05:39:03 PM
(...) The fight could have gone either way but I still find it crazy that one judge scored it 49-46. (...)

Yeah, Allen looked flabbergasted when that was announced  :D

I'm taking the following on single:
Charles Oliveira @2.80 (vs.  Arman Tsarukyan)
Max Holloway @2.50 (vs. Justin Gaethje)

At least one of them is going to win their fight.

Odds are decent for both.
It's a well known fact that oddsmakers have strong preference to younger fighters, that's why you can get a good value bets betting on guys like Oliveira, who's not really that old at 34. He could still be in his prime. But since he hasn't fought in almost a year, I wouldn't bet on him personally.
As for Max, I also have a feeling he could win it. He's striking is really good and it won't be easy for Gaethje to connect. And I can't imagine Justin wanting to take it to the ground, where he probably have some advantage.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 08, 2024, 10:47:42 PM
Odds are decent for both.
It's a well known fact that oddsmakers have strong preference to younger fighters, that's why you can get a good value bets betting on guys like Oliveira, who's not really that old at 34. He could still be in his prime. But since he hasn't fought in almost a year, I wouldn't bet on him personally.
Odds are not always giving us the correct picture of upcoming fights.
I was shocked when I saw how low odds on Bo Nickal are to win against Cody Brundage, I would never put anything on his win, and I am considering taking a small bet against him.
I think we are going to see several big surprised in UFC 300 event.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 09, 2024, 12:35:33 PM
(...)
I was shocked when I saw how low odds on Bo Nickal are to win against Cody Brundage, I would never put anything on his win, and I am considering taking a small bet against him.
(...)

I was thinking of that too.
Generally speaking, I don't think it makes sense to bet on anything below x1.10 on an mma fight (or even boxing), doesn't matter how good the fighter is. We've seen some weird injuries out of nowhere (e.g. Aspinall, Fiziev, Rakic), plus, there are lucky punches, disqualifications etc, there are too many things that could go wrong for such low pay-out bets to be worth it.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 11, 2024, 10:55:54 PM
(...)
I was shocked when I saw how low odds on Bo Nickal are to win against Cody Brundage, I would never put anything on his win, and I am considering taking a small bet against him.
(...)

I was thinking of that too.
Generally speaking, I don't think it makes sense to bet on anything below x1.10 on an mma fight (or even boxing), doesn't matter how good the fighter is. We've seen some weird injuries out of nowhere (e.g. Aspinall, Fiziev, Rakic), plus, there are lucky punches, disqualifications etc, there are too many things that could go wrong for such low pay-out bets to be worth it.

Nickal is too strong healthy to have get that injuries but lucky punch i guess could maybe derail his win. but say he has a physical therapist like everyone in UFC. sure thing they don't need to be examined thru EEG or EKG test procedure.
.
Nickal Bo by KO is 2.22 on Stake.com and  BO By Submission is 1.81
either of them will happen but not decision so you just have to speculate between the two which is highly likely to happen for this is the method with higher odds.

what is more interesting is Tsarukyan about to defeat Charles. they said whoever will win will have the chance to fight Islam again.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 11, 2024, 11:22:17 PM
(...)
what is more interesting is Tsarukyan about to defeat Charles. they said whoever will win will have the chance to fight Islam again.

It's either one of them or the winner of Gaethje Vs Holloway.
Islam will almost definitely be defending the title before that fight, in June. He called out Dustin Poirier, and Dustin allegedly agreed. Of course Islam will be a massive favourite, but this is MMA, so anything can happen.

As for Tsarukyan Vs Oliveira, I think Arman is a favorite but only a slight one. If Charles is still in his peak, he has what it takes to win, be it by KO or by submission.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 10:30:01 PM
i read in the other thread from tokeweed, he posted one of his parlay[ b] Nickal, Weili and Gaethje[/b] the 3 will likely win to which he will also be creating another parlay to include Arman and Hill.  kind of a good practice to hedge his parlay with another parlay.  ;D  Holloway use to be the bad ass in the cage but this time he is in decline also.

i don't know why as early as Alex defense, there are already doubts about him against Hill. I think he can KO Hill in just a
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 12, 2024, 11:27:29 PM
As for Tsarukyan Vs Oliveira, I think Arman is a favorite but only a slight one. If Charles is still in his peak, he has what it takes to win, be it by KO or by submission.
I would not write off Oliveira so easy, he is amazing fighter but I didnt watch Tsarukyan in many fights so maybe I cant judge correctly.
This should be one of the more interesting fights in this fight card, because it is going to be a clash of styles.
I am surprised that Prochazka vs Rakic fight is not promoted better by UFC.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 13, 2024, 12:27:27 AM
I would not write off Oliveira so easy, he is amazing fighter but I didnt watch Tsarukyan in many fights so maybe I cant judge correctly.
(...)

Tsarukyan trains a lot in a wrestling style similar to the Dagestani one, so probably could dominate Oliveira in grappling if he chooses to. But I think he prefers fighting in a stand-up, where he could get punished by Charles.
I don't think it's likely that Charles will submit Arman, although some fighters are predicting that to happen.
It should be a good one though.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 13, 2024, 01:21:53 PM
OK, so tonight's the night of the long-awaited UFC 300 event. Here are all the cards as a reminder:
Main:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/13/jM2f2.png)

Prelims:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/13/jMU8c.png)

Early prelims:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/13/jMXAP.png)

We should see plenty of action tonight, especially given the increased $300k performance bonuses.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 13, 2024, 03:07:57 PM
Tsarukyan trains a lot in a wrestling style similar to the Dagestani one, so probably could dominate Oliveira in grappling if he chooses to. But I think he prefers fighting in a stand-up, where he could get punished by Charles.
From what I read about him he has more background in Muay Thai than in wrestling, and most of the fights he won was in stand up with KO or TKO punches or kicks.
Oliveira is better on ground and he won most of his fights with submission on the ground, but both of them have other set of skills.
There is a small reach advantage for Oliveira, but Tsarukyan is seven years younger and more hungry.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 14, 2024, 08:57:31 AM
What a card, UFC lived up to expectations! So many highlights and so many things to talk about but my favorite moment is when Max telling Justin to trade blows in the middle of the octagon with just seconds remaining. That was a BMF moment right there because he could easily dance around until the time expires and wait for his name to be announced as the winner. Yet, he didn't care and took the risk to slug it out.

Biggest loser of the night is definitely Oliveira.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 14, 2024, 12:59:16 PM
What a card, UFC lived up to expectations! So many highlights and so many things to talk about but my favorite moment is when Max telling Justin to trade blows in the middle of the octagon with just seconds remaining. That was a BMF moment right there because he could easily dance around until the time expires and wait for his name to be announced as the winner. Yet, he didn't care and took the risk to slug it out.

Max is an absolute savage. I'm not a big fan of the "BMF" belt concept, but if anyone deserves it, it's MAx Holloway, hands down. The ending of the fight was simply perfect. A cold KO literally a second before the end of the fight is not something you would see even in a movie.
I'm yet to check who received performance bonuses, but Max has to be one of them.

Here are the highlights of the fight for those who haven't seen it:

Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 14, 2024, 01:38:15 PM
~
I'm yet to check who received performance bonuses, but Max has to be one of them.
Max and Jiri got the performance of the night bonuses.
Max vs Justin was the fight of the night.
All in all, Max got $600K in bonuses only.

Here are the highlights of the fight for those who haven't seen it:
Video must have been taken down or set to private.

Another badass moment that needs to be highlighted was Pereira gesturing to Herb Dean to move aside and not interrupt the fight. Seconds later, the fight was already over ;D
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 14, 2024, 07:57:26 PM
Alex Pereira proved to be a king of Light Heavyweight division after win against Jamahal Hill.
They way he did it was dominating in first round so there is no doubt who was a better fighter.
I think his next fight is going to be against Prochazka who won his fight against Rakic in the same fight card.

Max is an absolute savage.
Gaethje made a big mistake of entering in such exchange with Max.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 14, 2024, 09:19:56 PM
Alex Pereira proved to be a king of Light Heavyweight division after win against Jamahal Hill.
They way he did it was dominating in first round so there is no doubt who was a better fighter.
I think his next fight is going to be against Prochazka who won his fight against Rakic in the same fight card.

Max is an absolute savage.
Gaethje made a big mistake of entering in such exchange with Max.

he engaged in the middle i think because he knew by points he loses the fight. i think its an attempt for him to win the fight. gaethje i think lost all 4 rounds and that broken nose had affected his fight plan.

i rarely win a parlay but glad i didn't add the fights that i'm unsure like max vs gaethje. even hill vs alex is risky but i did add them anyway in my parlay. i didn't bet a big amount though.

(https://i.imgur.com/MAXI0Eq.png)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 14, 2024, 11:02:11 PM
Max and Jiri got the performance of the night bonuses.
Max vs Justin was the fight of the night.
All in all, Max got $600K in bonuses only.
(...)

Yeah, I've seen Dana's interview later. Well deserved for Max. Dana has also said that other fighters who performed well that night will also get some special bonuses.

Video must have been taken down or set to private.
It's still up in the UK. MAybe it's just not available in your location.

Gaethje made a big mistake of entering in such exchange with Max.

He had no choice. He knew he would lose by decision so had to take the risk. It was actually a strategically a bad decision by Max, but sometimes bad decisions can pay off big time.

(...) gaethje i think lost all 4 rounds and that broken nose had affected his fight plan.

Yeah, that spinning body kick that landed on Justin's face turned out to be crucial. There's no way to perform at 100% with a broken nose and compromised breathing. He also suffered 2 eye pokes, which could had some effect on his sight.

i rarely win a parlay but glad i didn't add the fights that i'm unsure like max vs gaethje. even hill vs alex is risky but i did add them anyway in my parlay. i didn't bet a big amount though.

Congrats and well done!
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 15, 2024, 11:27:46 PM
He had no choice. He knew he would lose by decision so had to take the risk. It was actually a strategically a bad decision by Max, but sometimes bad decisions can pay off big time.
This was a desperate move from him, but he didnt give up until the end, I will give him that.
I expected to see more from him but there is no way you cant beat Max with that strategy.
Prochazka was losing from Rakic and his move turned in his favor, but power of light heavyweight category fighters is something else.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 15, 2024, 11:46:35 PM
Odds are in for the 1st June, UFC 302 event:

Islam Makhachev x1.25 Vs Dustin Poirier x3.80

Sean Strickland x1.41 Vs Paolo Costa x2.80

And for the 22nd June, UFC 303:

Conor McGregor x1.85 Vs Michael Chandler x1.96

I think the payout rate for Chandler is very generous. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 16, 2024, 11:37:29 PM
Odds are in for the 1st June, UFC 302 event:

Islam Makhachev x1.25 Vs Dustin Poirier x3.80

Sean Strickland x1.41 Vs Paolo Costa x2.80

And for the 22nd June, UFC 303:

Conor McGregor x1.85 Vs Michael Chandler x1.96

I think the payout rate for Chandler is very generous. Thoughts?

it must be worth for Chandler, he waited not to fight someone else for over a year. missed a lot off opportunity because he waited for Connor. and i think he will win as well. Connor not fighting for a long time and him getting fatter means he is rustier than ever. if Chandler couldn't win against him standing, Chandler can always choose to baddest strategy which is to kick that broken leg.

Strickland despite his mental breakdown, i think the guy is still a badass. the odds is telling so but he should stop his social media presence.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 17, 2024, 10:28:38 AM
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 17, 2024, 04:24:52 PM
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.

Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 17, 2024, 10:37:27 PM
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.

Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.

Islam is like Khabib, Dustin will not see him fight on foot. Dustin just attempting to throw a punch, Islam will duck to grab him.  but we have seen Islam knocked down before who knows what could happen.

UFC 302 is a fight night of grappling.  looking into the fight card, most fighters are grapplers which iff ever i bet, i would likely choose win by submission. anyway there's still 301 to watch.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: Zed0X on April 18, 2024, 09:10:30 AM
Man, it's impressive how Dustin has climbed back after his title fight losses but I don't think he has what it takes to win against top grapplers and submission specialists. He's had a long career but just couldn't get over that wall. Since odds are low, I'll probably take Islam winning by submission and I'm thinking if it will be within 2 rounds.
Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.
Everyone knows he has loads of experience. He certainly had more fight experience by the time he fought Khabib and when he faced Oliveira but still got submitted. I'm sure he also prepared some strategy before he fought those two but we already know what happened. The whole point is that it's just a bad match up for him.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 18, 2024, 11:35:53 PM
Everyone is writing Dustin off in this fight, but he has proven to be mentally super strong by accepting and winning the fight with St Denis.
Of course Islam wrestling is superior to Dustin's (or any other fighter) but Poirier has loads of experience and he has really good sparring partners (i.e. Gamrot) to know what to do and to find the right strategy - which will likely be keep the fight in the stand up and hunt for a KO.
I am not writing Dustin off but Makhachev is something like Khabib 2 and I dont think he is going to lose this fight.
Dustin has reach advantage but he lost from Khabib, Gaethje and Oliveira so there are many holes in his game play that Makhachev can use.
I think this fight ending in first round could be a good bet.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 19, 2024, 12:04:02 AM
Islam is like Khabib, Dustin will not see him fight on foot. Dustin just attempting to throw a punch, Islam will duck to grab him.  but we have seen Islam knocked down before who knows what could happen.

He got KOes only once in his professional career and he seemed to learned his lesson from that.
Wrestling/grappling is Islam's strongest side but I don't expect he'll go straight for the takedown. He would have to engage Dustin in a stand up to make him over-commit to the strikes to set up a good opportunity to take it to the ground.
And the way MMA has evolved, it's way harder to just take someone to the ground, hold them there, and submit them. Especially on the highest level. An average fighter is much better in takedown defense and in avoiding submissions or ground and pound then they used to be.
As for Islam, he's getting more and more confident in his striking, as evidenced e.g. by his KO on Volkanovski. He will definitely not shy away from exchanging at least a little bit with Poirier.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 20, 2024, 10:25:45 PM
I forgot to say after UFC 300 that UFC fighter Renato Moicano in post fight interview asked to be paid in Bitcoin and he called fans to study Bitcoin more!
He is one of the top MMA fighters in Lightweight category and he has very interesting nickname Money Moicano  ;D
I dont know if Dana will accept his request but UFC is working with some crypto companies, so it is not impossible to happen.
https://decrypt.co/226622/ufc-fighter-moicano-mises-bitcoin
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 21, 2024, 12:24:48 AM
I forgot to say after UFC 300 that UFC fighter Renato Moicano in post fight interview asked to be paid in Bitcoin and he called fans to study Bitcoin more!
He is one of the top MMA fighters in Lightweight category and he has very interesting nickname Money Moicano  ;D
I dont know if Dana will accept his request but UFC is working with some crypto companies, so it is not impossible to happen.
https://decrypt.co/226622/ufc-fighter-moicano-mises-bitcoin

Lol, his post-fight interview made me laugh. He didn't mention Bitcoin there (he did so on Twitter after the fight) but this quote should be legendary:
"If you care about your f**king country, read Ludwig von Mises and the Six Lessons of the Austrian Economic School, motherf**kers"

He sure knows how to capture the audience  ;D
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 24, 2024, 12:50:07 AM
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/23/jq6Wl.png)

In the main event, we'll see Matheus Nicolau (currently ranked 5th in the Flyweight) fighting against Alex Perez (ranked 8th).
Nicolau is a favourite with odds at x1.53. Could be interesting.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 25, 2024, 12:03:41 AM
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April)
I am not interested in most of the fights in this fight card, and it looks to boring to me.
There are two or three fights I might watched later as recording, but nothing that would make me stay up to watch the entire event.
This happens sometimes after big fight cards like it was with UFC 300.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 26, 2024, 10:34:59 PM
The main card for the upcoming UFC fight night (Sat/Sun 27th/28th April)
I am not interested in most of the fights in this fight card, and it looks to boring to me.
There are two or three fights I might watched later as recording, but nothing that would make me stay up to watch the entire event.
This happens sometimes after big fight cards like it was with UFC 300.

UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 27, 2024, 12:29:09 AM
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

It's impossible to have high-profile events every week or two, so those fight nights act, as you said, as "fillers" just to give something to watch to MMA connoisseurs and it's a good opportunity for lesser fighters to build their name and get experience in fighting on a 5-rounds distance.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.

Islam can't complain about lack of worthy opponents. He's fighting Dustin soon, then (assuming he wins) most likely will face Tsarukyan, after that he'll fight whoever emerges to the top, I'm hoping for Gamrot, but there's also Max Holloway or even Conor as possible options. Or maybe, if Topuria doesn't disappoint, they could do a super-fight between them.

Anyhow, Islam said he wants to fight 3 times a year and it looks like the UFC is keen on that too, so we might see him fighting quite often.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 27, 2024, 11:35:01 PM
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.

It's impossible to have high-profile events every week or two, so those fight nights act, as you said, as "fillers" just to give something to watch to MMA connoisseurs and it's a good opportunity for lesser fighters to build their name and get experience in fighting on a 5-rounds distance.

i think its time to pay huge to those fighters like Islam to move up to welterweight when they see no one is challenging them anymore in their division. incentivizing those fighters who moves up will make the divisions exciting.

Islam can't complain about lack of worthy opponents. He's fighting Dustin soon, then (assuming he wins) most likely will face Tsarukyan, after that he'll fight whoever emerges to the top, I'm hoping for Gamrot, but there's also Max Holloway or even Conor as possible options. Or maybe, if Topuria doesn't disappoint, they could do a super-fight between them.

Anyhow, Islam said he wants to fight 3 times a year and it looks like the UFC is keen on that too, so we might see him fighting quite often.

3 times a year seem fair. but when its time to move up, he should go out risking himself like Max. a 2nd chance for Tsarukyan is fair.

anyway, ever heard the rumor about Jones being Gay? so funny that i'm just curious to know if there is truth to it. Jones seem to be suing MMAGuru for this claim but he had been doing this claim for days already but this time he has a video of Jones drunk.

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Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 27, 2024, 11:41:38 PM
UFC presented great fight cards since 298 but after the 300 i guess its over. we are back to fight nights that are just a filler episode in an action series. even the 301 is not so much exciting.
UFC 301 is much fight card better, this is no brainer.
Main event is Flyweight Championship title fight Pantoja vs Erceg, than we have José Aldo in his last fight in the UFC contract in co-main event.
Anthony Smith is always interesting to watch, and there are other interesting fights, much more interesting than this week event.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on April 28, 2024, 06:54:25 PM
Main Card results of the last night's UFC fight night:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/28/rCbC2.png)

Lots of KOs, so I guess it wasn't that boring after all :)
Small surprise in the main event, the underdog, Perez, KO'd Nicolau in the 2nd round. Fully deserved win, he was much more aggressive and really went for it. He gave a good fight last time against Mokaev but lost by decision.
He'll probably go up in the ranking by at least one place.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on April 30, 2024, 11:34:13 AM
Very interesting upcoming UFC 301 event with Flyweight title fight Pantoja vs Erceg, but I am more interested in watching last UFC fight for legendary Jose Aldo.
I dont think UFC will extend his contract but he has few more fights left in him, so maybe we see him in PFL or different MMA promotion.
Vitor Petrino is another fighter I never saw any of his fights and I am curious if he can remain undefeated against Smith.

(https://i.ibb.co/3kNGypt/imgc9f887c234f2cf71c3c1807a2c9b2903.jpg)
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on April 30, 2024, 11:34:35 PM

interesting to know there are still few fights left for Aldo in UFC contract. maybe if Conor will be knocked out by Chandler, Conor and Aldo will have their rematch. i think people will still want to see them fight for once. they used to be the biggest in UFC. they got old of course but having the fight in Netflix i think will unite all fans to watch on TV from Ireland to Brazil.

i have no idea who Erceg actually but whoever the match maker who put him against Pantoja must have seen something.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on May 01, 2024, 11:44:00 PM
interesting to know there are still few fights left for Aldo in UFC contract. maybe if Conor will be knocked out by Chandler, Conor and Aldo will have their rematch. i think people will still want to see them fight for once. they used to be the biggest in UFC. they got old of course but having the fight in Netflix i think will unite all fans to watch on TV from Ireland to Brazil.
This is Aldo last fight in UFC contract, and he said he was going to retired in 2022, and went into boxing fights with very good results.
He is getting older and I dont think we can see him with Conor in UFC, maybe they can make some boxing fight instead.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on May 02, 2024, 08:12:42 PM
There was some follow up on Arman Tsarukyan punching a fan during his walk out at the UFC 300.

He explained his reasons punching/attempting to punch the guy here:
i=gkvQRpkQviQTaYTt&t=168

I kind of understand him, we're all humans, if you're flipping a middle finger to the other guy and disrespect him, you should expect some violence. On the other hand, when he publicly announced that he will keep responding like that to fans' provocations, he's guaranteed to have more of them in his next fights.

According to the DailyStar, he got an equivalent of £28,000 withheld by the Nevada State Athletic Commission as a penalty, which is 20% of his £126,000 earnings from the fight. Source:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ufc/arman-tsarukyan-punches-fan-ufc-32713844
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: notblox1 on May 02, 2024, 11:51:36 PM
I kind of understand him, we're all humans, if you're flipping a middle finger to the other guy and disrespect him, you should expect some violence. On the other hand, when he publicly announced that he will keep responding like that to fans' provocations, he's guaranteed to have more of them in his next fights.
I think this is stupid from him  :o
Why would you need to fight with anyone who shows you middle finger or tell you something you dont like?
One day he is going to try to fight against someone crazy who is going to use gun against him.
It is much better to have self control when you are professional fighter.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: electronicash on May 05, 2024, 10:36:50 PM
interesting to know there are still few fights left for Aldo in UFC contract. maybe if Conor will be knocked out by Chandler, Conor and Aldo will have their rematch. i think people will still want to see them fight for once. they used to be the biggest in UFC. they got old of course but having the fight in Netflix i think will unite all fans to watch on TV from Ireland to Brazil.
This is Aldo last fight in UFC contract, and he said he was going to retired in 2022, and went into boxing fights with very good results.
He is getting older and I dont think we can see him with Conor in UFC, maybe they can make some boxing fight instead.

he used to be the GOAT.
he seem capable of fighting younger fighters.  either its the drugs or he is just faster in his last fight. he could have knocked the boy down but aldo isn't this savage to end the career of this boy so he just take down the boy.  UFC 301 is indeed not so much exciting but there are few remarkable. the Early Prelims has a record of 2 KOs which is better than the main card.

ever saw the news today that Anthony Smith vs Alex Pereira bets $50k in their fight? Hope Dana will give this a green light.
Alex is a hot Market, Jones also wants him.
Title: Re: The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic
Post by: pawel7777 on May 06, 2024, 11:40:18 PM
The UFC 301 main card results:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/06/rgUYq.png)

Successful title defense by Pantoja and an important win for Jose Aldo.

I think the biggest loser of the UFC 301 was Vitor Petrino. Many are not familiar with the name, but he was on the verge of jumping into the ranking and being considered for fights with big names. He had a lot of hype potential with his 11-0 record and a high finish ratio, so they gave him Anthony Smith, who seemed to be on the decline, but Smith derailed his hype train with a first-round guillotine choke.