My suggestion for negative karma

[Agbe]

I am not in favour of letting know who sent the negative Karma, it will create massive personal conflicts between each others.

But this tool should not be given to everyone if this is the current system. It should be given to people who have proven that they do not allow their personal issue to affect a karma. Like merit sources there should be a selective group of people who will be able to use this tool. Some mods can monitor these Karma Source to check if they are abusing the privilege.

Hey my best friend over there, I am happy to see you here, you are welcome. As you can see the karma system is having an intense here because people are abusing it without any course. So the protest or the agitation is very high this days. Karma is like to dislike and like someone but the issue here is that when someone dislikes you he or she would click on -Karma and your hard earned +Karma would just disappear then you will start from the beginning again struggling to earn +karma again and if you try have again they would -Karma again so the system is abusive and that is the bone of contention here. So we want admin to do something about it. Like as you said, let group of people who are capable of wearing thick skin to ignore some people character should do the -Karma issue if not I am not a prophet but this will become a good drama in the future. And to avoid that let the moderators, staff and admin should do something to prevent it. Because only this days almost 4 or 5 threads only on this issue...

[Mate2237]

I will want you guys to read the answers of this thread https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314128.msg1458505#msg1458505, after creating this thread, one of the karma was removed again and that made me angry and abandoned the account for a while. When jokers brought out the comment that possibly removed the first karma it was like a ridiculous. Because I didn't see anything wrong in that comment for someone to gave me -Karma. And the worst part in the process of discussing how the first Karma was disappeared, another again and that made me to accused the same person that I s victimizing me.

[bitmover]

I have received negative karma a few times and whenever I receive a negative karma I feel that what I have done wrong that someone sent me a negative karma? I often avoid the negative karma thing and keep posting because getting dishearten from negative karma doesn't makes sense to me. However, today I have seen the thread of yahoo62278 where he mentioned that he also got a negative karma and that's why I decided to make this thread as a suggestion to admin to do something about that negative karma.

I think you shouldn't worry about negative karma

Just keep  creating quality content and your karma will grown naturally.  It just takes time

[Baofeng]

Why is everyone talking about karma and opening so many karma topics in last few days? 
Just forget about it guys, use it like you are using likes and dislikes on any other platform, dont overthink it so much.
If you try to contribute in some way you will get rewarded, for example PX-Z who make AltcoinsTalks telegram notification bot.

I do agree, I think some members doesn't want to get negative Karma, but it is what it is. And I guess it steam for the other forum as well and I don't what to some rude, but maybe we are comparing this community from the other one?

We have Merits on the other side and here it's Karma. And maybe this what distinguished itself from each other as the Admin implemented a policy that you will not know who send you those Karma.

And then it will be all over again, retaliations, personal vindications, dramas, similar to what we have seen on the other community.

[Jokers]

This is very good, but how will the member know what is the reason for receiving negative karma? I mean, he will not know whether he received this negative karma because his post was of low quality, or because he wrote a response to the first post after the third page, or any other reason you mentioned?

There are many reasons that could make a member get negative karma, but without knowing the reason, he will not change his wrong behavior and will continue to write with the same bad habits, so perhaps it is appropriate to put a hint about the reason that made him get negative karma, so that he can avoid these bad habits.

1. admin said that showing the post got +karma or -karma is in his to do list. So soon we will have an opportunity to see which exact post met with high disagreement.
2. You can always say that you gave +karma or -karma if you suppose it important, when you will answer the post you liked/disliked.

And the worst part in the process of discussing how the first Karma was disappeared, another again and that made me to accused the same person that I s victimizing me.

Did you go to the Forum Court? If you suspect a karma abuse, you can use forum options to investigate that.

Like as you said, let group of people who are capable of wearing thick skin to ignore some people character should do the -Karma issue if not I am not a prophet but this will become a good drama in the future. And to avoid that let the moderators, staff and admin should do something to prevent it. Because only this days almost 4 or 5 threads only on this issue...

-karma is a light form of bad behavior fight. Most users get +karma much easier than -karma. Your idea to decrease the number of users who can give -karma will make this option useless. If so many others don't like your posts, maybe you can improve something. If it is a karma abuse, use the Forum Court. No need restricting karma usage of a wide range of users just because we don't like getting -karma. As long as we get much more +karma, it is not the end of the world.

[Igebotz]

I am not in favour of letting know who sent the negative Karma, it will create massive personal conflicts between each others.

But this tool should not be given to everyone if this is the current system. It should be given to people who have proven that they do not allow their personal issue to affect a karma. Like merit sources there should be a selective group of people who will be able to use this tool. Some mods can monitor these Karma Source to check if they are abusing the privilege.

We don't want another closed system in which the strong get stronger while the weak get weaker; I don't want power to be placed in the hands of a few people; and I don't like the idea of unlimited Karma per account.

There should be a limit on how much karma one can send per week based on rank; this way, abuse will be minimised, and only Hero-Legendary accounts should have this ability.

[Agbe]

I am not in favour of letting know who sent the negative Karma, it will create massive personal conflicts between each others.

But this tool should not be given to everyone if this is the current system. It should be given to people who have proven that they do not allow their personal issue to affect a karma. Like merit sources there should be a selective group of people who will be able to use this tool. Some mods can monitor these Karma Source to check if they are abusing the privilege.

We don't want another closed system in which the strong get stronger while the weak get weaker; I don't want power to be placed in the hands of a few people; and I don't like the idea of unlimited Karma per account.

There should be a limit on how much karma one can send per week based on rank; this way, abuse will be minimised, and only Hero-Legendary accounts should have this ability.

For what you have said I gave you +Karma and if it would allow me to give more than 1 Karma I would given more. What you have said is purely a democratic community where the intoxicated powers exercise tyranny in other forums. Really the weak ones in bitcointalk can't say anything there and if they do they would be hunted by the strong powers. This forum is getting interesting day by day. Just remain one thing to get exploded.

[Cryptsafe]

This is a very important point raised here. I actually said something similar to this topic on the telegram notifier thread where I asked PX-Z about the possibility of receiving notifications on who sent karma both positive and negative,  post that received the karma but it is not as I thought It would be. However, this system of karma here is quite alright as there is no autonomy on who to give it or not so as to avoid misuse of it but however, it could still be the same here were individuals could just start abusing it to hunt down their perceived opposition or opponents.

I will suggest that for every negative karma given, admin should get a notification to evaluate the post which received that karma as to know if truly the post is worth the negative karma or it is out of hunting. I believe this measures would save some negative karma from being effective on accounts.

[bayu7adi]

I will suggest that for every negative karma given, admin should get a notification to evaluate the post which received that karma as to know if truly the post is worth the negative karma or it is out of hunting. I believe this measures would save some negative karma from being effective on accounts.

This is quite good advice, because up to now the abuse of negative karma will of course be detrimental to some members who consider karma to be very important for building a reputation here. I'm sure, there must be someone who doesn't like other people for personal reasons or personal problems, so they take it out in unnatural ways, such as throwing negative karma at people they hate, even though the related post isn't that bad.

I'm sure the admin and staff are processing this problem to find a bright spot for everyone. This forum is quite interesting, because the admin is very open to ideas from its members. One of the advantages is interesting enough to still be able to discuss here.

[Igebotz]

I will suggest that for every negative karma given, admin should get a notification to evaluate the post which received that karma as to know if truly the post is worth the negative karma or it is out of hunting. I believe this measures would save some negative karma from being effective on accounts.

The admin will not sit in front of a computer and analyse thousands of Karma notifications; if you believe your negative karma is unjustifiable, we have the Forum Court for that. Everyone has one outside of the forum. Do not lose sleep over negative karma as every positive karma removes -1 karma. Just continue contributing

[Mia Chloe]

I have received negative karma a few times and whenever I receive a negative karma I feel that what I have done wrong that someone sent me a negative karma?

SamReomo I actually went through your post history and discovered you are a nice countributor here so in order to compensate you lost karma I have given you one. You probably had a hater maybe from Bitcoin talk that decided to reduce your karma count.

In my opinion I believe the negative karma should be restricted to certain persons like mods to avoid abuse. This is because even if someone had your karma reduced for no reason, you don't even get to know who did it at least.

[bitterguy28]

Wondering how can we see how much negative karma and how much positive we have here ?
because i seem not to find it  though when i am new here there is a Negative Karma I receive (have seen this in my profile directly)

But what I did is PM the Admin asking why do I received one Negative karma and answered
me that someone abused the karma system sending me one without valid reason.

also I understand this  karma system in which for me is like Merit system and in BTT there is no
Negative merit while there are abusers as well so let this be here and just use it without abusing.

[Litzki1990]

Since there is a feature of giving minus karma in this forum, many people misuse this feature. There is a system of giving merit if someone posts well in bitcoin forum but there is no such system where a member can give minus merit. However, a member can give plus karma or minus karma to another member if he/she has a senior member plus account in this forum. I don't see any motive behind giving minus karma, there is no way to give minus karma after seeing a post that is not liked. There is no such thing as a member being given minus karma just because he might post a relatively bad post. If you don't like the post you can ignore the post.

[DabsPoorVersion]

Since there is a feature of giving minus karma in this forum, many people misuse this feature. There is a system of giving merit if someone posts well in bitcoin forum but there is no such system where a member can give minus merit. However, a member can give plus karma or minus karma to another member if he/she has a senior member plus account in this forum. I don't see any motive behind giving minus karma, there is no way to give minus karma after seeing a post that is not liked. There is no such thing as a member being given minus karma just because he might post a relatively bad post. If you don't like the post you can ignore the post.

The motive behind giving negative karma is due to some members who misbehave or do not give any effort to any of their posts. For example, a user posted a thread asking for a self-definition of cryptocurrency and how it can be helpful. Some users copied the definition of cryptocurrency from Google without properly understanding the question. Those who did so deserve negative karma. And for those who believe that they do not deserve negative karma and think that they have not done anything to be disliked by other forum members or think that someone is abusing the use of negative karma, the admin will take action. This is why they indicate that if someone misuses karma, they may face penalties.

[|MINER|]

The main thing is that people are here all of has the power of giving positive karma and negative karma. So, no matter how reputable a member is here, there is a chances of getting negative karma always be, in that case the admin will not be left here. Although it can be abused out of personal animosity, apart from this abuse it can help to keep the forum away from much controversy.  For example, if someone is worried about getting negative karma, they will moderate their posts accordingly.