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MixTum.io (https://mixtum.io/) is a one-of-a-kind bitcoin mixer built on Jambler.io platform and launched in August, 2018. While mixing BTC, MixTum.io (https://mixtum.io/) does not shuffle available funds in one or multiple pots, but exchanges incoming bitcoins with coins purchased from investors - cryptocurrency stock exchanges.
Navigation
- Can I trust you with my money? (#post_trust)
- What is the min amount and commission costs? (#post_commission)
- How does MixTum.io guarantee my anonymity? (#post_anonymity)
- How long do addresses for funds transfer remain valid? (#post_valid)
- How long does it take to cleanse Bitcoins? (#post_time)
- How does your free trial mixing work? (#post_free)
- How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer? (#post_create)
What is the MixTum.io project?
Our transfer algorithm selects independent investors and trading platforms, and breaks down your funds in a manner that completely removes a link between input and output transactions. We neither require registration nor store logs. Once the mixing is done and transaction confirmed, the data on processed transactions is deleted. For each mixing request, we issue a digitally signed letter of guarantee, which confirms our obligations to the client.
Public Key: https://mixtum.io/pgp-key.txt
Telegtam: https://t.me/mixtum_bot
MixTum Tor Mirror: https://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/
MixTum.io PGP fingerprint: B8A5 CFCA F63F F2D8 384A 6B12 D3B2 8095 6F0E 7CAF
Can I trust you with my money?
In addition to the fact that we have been on the market for more than 4 years, we take protective measures against errors and malicious acts. For every incoming order, we provide a PGP-signed letter of guarantee that confirms the obligations we assume. To check a letter of guarantee, install a PGP client (for example, PGP4Win (https://www.gpg4win.org/download.html)), import a public key of MixTum.io (https://mixtum.io/pgp-key.txt) from the website to the installed client and verify a digital signature.
What is the min amount and commission costs?
The commission is randomized to some extent and can be 4-5% + 0.0007 BTC. The innovative cleansing process we use involves considerable expenses, but we believe the resulting premium anonymization level is worth the price. Minimum amount of funds for cleansing 0.005 BTC. Smaller transactions will be regarded as a donation since it makes no business sense to conduct them, but if you have sent such sum by mistake, contact (https://mixtum.io/#contacts) our help desk.
How does MixTum.io guarantee my anonymity?
We do not collect logs, do not store private information, our team is also anonymous. The main principle of the platform operation is the provision of funds to end customers from a hundred different investors from various stock exchanges. All info about an order is deleted upon its completion (or when the offer expires). The only remaining trace of our work are the letters of guarantee we give you.
To increase the level of anonymity, you can use the Tor version of the platform, (the Tor version uses no JavaScript, collects and stores no records of website visitor activity). MixTum has an official Tor mirror of the website which you can find under the following link (https://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/).
How long do addresses for funds transfer remain valid?
They remain valid for 7 days. This period is sufficient to address any network issues, delays and human errors that may occur, thus guaranteeing safety of customer's assets. Anyway, in all cases an address lifetime for every request is captured in a letter of guarantee provided by the MixTum.io platform.
How long does it take to cleanse Bitcoins?
The process starts after the first confirmation of your incoming transfer and takes up to 6 hours. The exact delay is chosen randomly in order to resist deanonymization attempts. We have found that a random delay of up to 6 hours is enough to eliminate the risk of volume analysis.
How does your free trial mixing work?
You can initiate trial mixing via the respective button on the main page, or follow this link (https://mixtum.io/?mix=free). The commission for cleansing will not be charged, but you must send us exactly 0.001 BTC. You cannot select a percentage breakdown as this is decided by the algorithm for optimal performance and anonymity.
How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer? [Extended FAQ (https://jambler.io/faq.php#faq-2.1)]
It is very simple! You do not have to implement mixer algorithms by yourself or seek for finance to form operating assets, we did that for you.
➥ Register on the Jambler.io website as a partner, specify a BTC wallet for profit receipt and your mixer commission, configure an automated withdrawal of funds and enter a project name. The platform will generate BTC addresses, issue letters of guarantee on your behalf, control monetary flows and transfer profits to you.
➥ Develop website design of your own mixer or use a template which we have prepared for you. In your personal account you can find HTML templates for Tor and Clearnet mixer version, PHP gateway to connect to our system. Download and upload them to your hosting.
➥ Your mixer is ready for operation, all that is left for you to do is to attract clients. You will get interest income from every transaction. You will get Jabber or Telegram notifications of new requests and transaction execution via your mixer from the platform.
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Happy to see Mixtum around here :)
The link of the FR translation of this [ANN]: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314465.0
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Will someone from the official Mixtum team be active on the Altt forum? I would say that it is more than desirable.
I also see that the website still has a link to the ANN thread on the Bitcointalk forum as a support channel. Given that all the restrictions there, ANN closed, and that Altt is more friendly for an open discussion about mixers, I believe that future contacts should be directed to this thread.
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Here's the link to pidgin translation, incase you want to add it to the original topic: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314926.0
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Great to see Mixtum and most other mixers teleported here from bitcointalk forum together with us :)
I remember Mixtum was very active in other forum and they had one of the highest paying signature campaigns.
If I can make one suggestion to icopress and owners of Mixtum, please update forum link on the website page bottom.
Right now it is directing to old archived topic, so it would be a good idea to maybe add new Altcoinstalks link.
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And in Contacts page:
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Will someone from the official Mixtum team be active on the Altt forum? I would say that it is more than desirable.
I also see that the website still has a link to the ANN thread on the Bitcointalk forum as a support channel. Given that all the restrictions there, ANN closed, and that Altt is more friendly for an open discussion about mixers, I believe that future contacts should be directed to this thread.
The link to ANN Bitcointalk will remain on the site for a long time since it is a kind of right-hand reputational footnote. A link to the altcointalk thread will also be added soon.
As for technical support, if anyone has an urgent request, they can write here or PM me and I will make sure that authorized persons receive the letter.
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
You didn't understand something well. Mixtum.io is a partner of Jambler. Jambler.io is a kind of gateway service for mixers, and they offer the possibility to start your own mixer service. A very sustainable business idea.
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
Yeah you can use Jambler.io (https://jambler.io/) if you want to create your own service, they provide all the necessary things in order to make it easy to do so.
I think Mixtum is just promoting Jambler, they won't help you directly to create your own service ; but Jambler will. (icopress will correct me if I'm wrong)
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
Yeah whatever examplens said is true, it's not the Mixtum.io that will help you to create your own mixer but the Jambler.io and I have noticed that they have already worked hard to create some of those mixer services that we see.
Jambler.io's campaign isn't launched on this forum but they have their own campaign on Bitcointalk forum. You should also visit their site to see more information, I think they have dedicated team that will create mixers for the clients. You may contact them if you want to learn more about their services.
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Good thing I found out about this platform. I am digging up more information about it, and what I found out is that it does not require registration or store logs, and once the mixing process is complete, all data on processed transactions is deleted.
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You didn't understand something well. Mixtum.io is a partner of Jambler. Jambler.io is a kind of gateway service for mixers, and they offer the possibility to start your own mixer service. A very sustainable business idea.
He obviously mixed up something with his other forum account, and mister ''positive'' woke up after long inactivity, so don't expect him to actually read what is written :P
The link to ANN Bitcointalk will remain on the site for a long time since it is a kind of right-hand reputational footnote. A link to the altcointalk thread will also be added soon.
I don't have any issue with that, but some people could interpret this differently if they don't know about rules change in bitcointalk forum.
When you open old ANN topic title is now [banned mixer]... and people don't know the real reason of ban.
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Here's the link to pidgin translation, incase you want to add it to the original topic: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314926.0
Wow, this is impressive and I like the idea which is going to help more people to get to know about the mixer. How long does it take you to translate the post?
Good thing I found out about this platform. I am digging up more information about it, and what I found out is that it does not require registration or store logs, and once the mixing process is complete, all data on processed transactions is deleted.
I think Mixtum.io is one of the good mixers we can make use of without any privacy leak. Although I've not make use of it for now but soon I'm going to try it out since their are friends that have strong interest after using the site. It is quite interesting seeing Mixtum on this forum and I hope the team is available for the long ride.
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Does Mixtum plan to start new signature and review campaign in AltcoinsTalks forum soon?
I see there is big visible Mixtum banner on top of forum page but additional signature promotion would make positive impact.
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Does Mixtum plan to start new signature and review campaign in AltcoinsTalks forum soon?
I see there is big visible Mixtum banner on top of forum page but additional signature promotion would make positive impact.
Honestly, this is quite likely. But for now there is no need for this since there is banner advertising.
Perhaps in a month or two I will return to this thought! Thank you!
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The link to ANN Bitcointalk will remain on the site for a long time since it is a kind of right-hand reputational footnote. A link to the altcointalk thread will also be added soon.
I don't have any issue with that, but some people could interpret this differently if they don't know about rules change in bitcointalk forum.
When you open old ANN topic title is now [banned mixer]... and people don't know the real reason of ban.
[/quote]Hmm.. it seems you are right. I will try to make sure that the link to Bitcointalk leads to a reference post about the current situation and a link to a new discussion thread.
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I don't have any issue with that, but some people could interpret this differently if they don't know about rules change in bitcointalk forum.
When you open old ANN topic title is now [banned mixer]... and people don't know the real reason of ban.
Yes, you're right most people don't really know the changes that took place in Bitcointalk forum. Now on title of every mixer thread on Bitcointalk "Banned Mixer" is added. People think that if mixer is banned then they might have some issues if they use such mixers but they don't actually know that the all mixers were banned on the forum and that's why it's added in the titles of the mixer's ann threads.
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I've been in crypto for the last 5 years and never seen a Bitcoin mixer like Mixtum.io this is the first time i saw an article about Bitcoin mixer and this is very interesting. I did a little research about the Bitcoin mixer and i found out that there are a lot of bitcoin mixers that offer a lot of services and benefits like Mixtum.io but i wonder what is the difference between Mixtum.io compared to other Bitcoin mixer? In my preference i like the concept of anonymity of Mixtum this is very important to me but why would i choose Mixtum? Please enlighten me.
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
You didn't understand something well. Mixtum.io is a partner of Jambler. Jambler.io is a kind of gateway service for mixers, and they offer the possibility to start your own mixer service. A very sustainable business idea.
Thanks for the clarification. I was just curious about that aspect when I read about the MixTum anonymity service yesterday.
Although I have been into cryptocurrency for some time now but not a privacy enthusiast and I have never thought about using a Bitcoin mixer service until now that big investment companies like BlackRock have an interest in Bitcoin and I read that privacy will be an issue when the spot ETF is approved. In preparation for privately securing my BTC bag is the reason why I am looking into the BTC mixer that has the delighted anonymity service. I was surprised "How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer" on the MixTum mixer page yesterday that's the reason for the question I asked.
Is there some guide to follow to get the best anonymity service when using MixTum mixer?
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
You didn't understand something well. Mixtum.io is a partner of Jambler. Jambler.io is a kind of gateway service for mixers, and they offer the possibility to start your own mixer service. A very sustainable business idea.
Thanks for the clarification. I was just curious about that aspect when I read about the MixTum anonymity service yesterday.
Although I have been into cryptocurrency for some time now but not a privacy enthusiast and I have never thought about using a Bitcoin mixer service until now that big investment companies like BlackRock have an interest in Bitcoin and I read that privacy will be an issue when the spot ETF is approved. In preparation for privately securing my BTC bag is the reason why I am looking into the BTC mixer that has the delighted anonymity service. I was surprised "How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer" on the MixTum mixer page yesterday that's the reason for the question I asked.
Is there some guide to follow to get the best anonymity service when using MixTum mixer?
there are alot of benefits by giving priority on anonymity and privacy. you never can tell who is watching you. its certain that privacy would be a hot topic and companies like blackrock has clients with huge amount also the spot ETF saga has gained more attention for bitcoin so to protect your identity mixers comes in very handy
Mixtum mixer is not complicated and can easily be used, the whole mixing process can be better shortened to you sending your bitcoin to the service and they send it to addresses you provided but this transaction is different from the normal bitcoin transaction you do because using a mixer like mixtum transactions are untraceable and private but still there are factors to consider like which brower you use, TOR brower would just be fine and you can learn more about Mixtum mixer service by going through others review.
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It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
You didn't understand something well. Mixtum.io is a partner of Jambler. Jambler.io is a kind of gateway service for mixers, and they offer the possibility to start your own mixer service. A very sustainable business idea.
Thanks for the clarification. I was just curious about that aspect when I read about the MixTum anonymity service yesterday.
Although I have been into cryptocurrency for some time now but not a privacy enthusiast and I have never thought about using a Bitcoin mixer service until now that big investment companies like BlackRock have an interest in Bitcoin and I read that privacy will be an issue when the spot ETF is approved. In preparation for privately securing my BTC bag is the reason why I am looking into the BTC mixer that has the delighted anonymity service. I was surprised "How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer" on the MixTum mixer page yesterday that's the reason for the question I asked.
Is there some guide to follow to get the best anonymity service when using MixTum mixer?
there are alot of benefits by giving priority on anonymity and privacy. you never can tell who is watching you. its certain that privacy would be a hot topic and companies like blackrock has clients with huge amount also the spot ETF saga has gained more attention for bitcoin so to protect your identity mixers comes in very handy
Mixtum mixer is not complicated and can easily be used, the whole mixing process can be better shortened to you sending your bitcoin to the service and they send it to addresses you provided but this transaction is different from the normal bitcoin transaction you do because using a mixer like mixtum transactions are untraceable and private but still there are factors to consider like which brower you use, TOR brower would just be fine and you can learn more about Mixtum mixer service by going through others review.
I agree with what you said and it's the benefit that involves giving priority to anonymity which will protect from prying eyes is the reason why I consider the use of Bitcoin mixer service especially now when the big fish have more interest in Bitcoin and hackers are pulling a different tricks everyday.
As an example we can take recent Microsoft leading Executive emails that were breached, which I believe is due to "nothing is ever safe on the internet" but "prevention is better than cure" (they say) which makes crypto mixing one of the tools that will give me the prevention.
Mixtum mixer is difficult to base on (how you explained) but I want to use the platform with Tor. I once heard that using Tor is enough with the right setup and I don't want to leave a single stone unturned since I am not knowledgeable in the area of privacy.
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Mixtum mixer is difficult to base on (how you explained) but I want to use the platform with Tor.
If you don't actually understand the method that had been explained so far, I think you can always turn to the website because that is where you could see different format on how you can mix your coin in a way that suit your interest. Mixing is not something difficult like one could think but our safety is very important, that's why it is always advised to use a strong VPN that could hide our identity.
You can use the free trial to test run how the system works so that you can become more conversant with the system.
I once heard that using Tor is enough with the right setup and I don't want to leave a single stone unturned since I am not knowledgeable in the area of privacy.
The reason why Tor is used is to hide our privacy from the public. Other strong VPN can likewise be used too if they work well and keep us safe. Maybe you can take a look at the Mixtum website and use the free trial for a better understanding.
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I've never tried to use Bitcoin Mixer, and I honestly don't know how to use it or how it goes.
Upon checking the information on MixTum.io, I find it interesting, as a project provides a way to break up your money into smaller amounts so that it cannot be traced back to you. It is all about the anonymity. It does this by selecting random investors and trading platforms and breaking down your money in a way that makes it impossible to tell how much was spent on what. I hope to try this one of these days.
Is there any limitation or restriction on the types of cryptocurrencies that can be mixed using this platform?
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Mixtum mixer is difficult to base on (how you explained) but I want to use the platform with Tor.
If you don't actually understand the method that had been explained so far, I think you can always turn to the website because that is where you could see different format on how you can mix your coin in a way that suit your interest. Mixing is not something difficult like one could think but our safety is very important, that's why it is always advised to use a strong VPN that could hide our identity.
You can use the free trial to test run how the system works so that you can become more conversant with the system.
Sorry for the misconception. There was a typo in the message.
What I mean is that the MixTum is not difficult to use as the user explained. However, I visited the website as you advised and checked everything carefully. I want to use their mixing service for privacy priority, so I need to be careful and also sure that I am mixing the Bitcoin the right way.
You said "strong VPN" but for the record, some VPNs could provide their user IP address to the authorities, so I never trust VPN service.
The reason why Tor is used is to hide our privacy from the public. Other strong VPN can likewise be used too if they work well and keep us safe. Maybe you can take a look at the Mixtum website and use the free trial for a better understanding.
In your words using a strong VPN when privacy is prioritized is good? No, I will never trust platforms that can see, or save their user IP address and this is why I consider Tor to be the best solution for this.
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I've never tried to use Bitcoin Mixer, and I honestly don't know how to use it or how it goes.
Upon checking the information on MixTum.io, I find it interesting, as a project provides a way to break up your money into smaller amounts so that it cannot be traced back to you. It is all about the anonymity. It does this by selecting random investors and trading platforms and breaking down your money in a way that makes it impossible to tell how much was spent on what. I hope to try this one of these days.
Is there any limitation or restriction on the types of cryptocurrencies that can be mixed using this platform?
What i gather on my research about MixTum is, Mixtum is different from other classic mixers, it was launched in the year 2018. It doesn’t store any amount of coins in one place but exchanges incoming bitcoins with coins purchased from investors – cryptocurrency stock exchanges.
The total time will take around 6 hours to get your coin back. Anyone can become an investor. The minimum deposit is 0.005 BTC to 50 BTC with free trial of the minimum amount equal to 0.001 BTC when the commission for mixing is not charged. Clean coins are sent via 2 or more transactions in random sums to make them untraceable.
Another benefit of Mixtum is that you will get 24/7 hours of tech support. No logs are stored. Users can get a free trial on-demand. Mixtum is one of the trusted and top Bitcoin tumblers today.
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Does Mixtum plan to start new signature and review campaign in AltcoinsTalks forum soon?
I see there is big visible Mixtum banner on top of forum page but additional signature promotion would make positive impact.
Yes mixtum having an active signature campaign here on the forum would definitely make sense, but as the big banner caught your attention then it is actually servicing it's purpose.
For now I believe that mixtum are in a marketing deal with the forum Altcointalk and you hardly can avoid seeing the big banner, to be it's an effective approach, but a signature campaign or review would help readers on this forum have more understanding about mixtum and also easily start using the platform, so yes mate I agree with you.
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MixTum.io is a one-of-a-kind bitcoin mixer built on Jambler.io platform and launched in August, 2018. While mixing BTC, MixTum.io does not shuffle available funds in one or multiple pots, but exchanges incoming bitcoins with coins purchased from investors - cryptocurrency stock exchanges.
I have a question to ask because I am new to using mixtum.io . Originally how bitcoin mixing work is that funds(bitcoin) are intermixed amongst the list of available pots which causes a blockage towards anyone trying to trace transactions.
But if I am correct Mixtum.io doesn't work that way only swaps the expected funds (Bitcoin) with coins bought by investors.
My questions are:
1. How does this process work?
2. Are the investors those who invest in mixtum.io /Jambler.oi or what platforms are these investors from?
3. What makes this process untraceable, support anonymity and lastly what are other downsides one should be aware of ?
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Does Mixtum plan to start new signature and review campaign in AltcoinsTalks forum soon?
I see there is big visible Mixtum banner on top of forum page but additional signature promotion would make positive impact.
Yes mixtum having an active signature campaign here on the forum would definitely make sense, but as the big banner caught your attention then it is actually servicing it's purpose.
Mixtum just launched there signature campaign not quite long, maybe you can take a look at the thread. That's a good news for everyone that are members of this community, the long awaited signature campaign has finally launched.
For now I believe that mixtum are in a marketing deal with the forum Altcointalk and you hardly can avoid seeing the big banner, to be it's an effective approach, but a signature campaign or review would help readers on this forum have more understanding about mixtum and also easily start using the platform, so yes mate I agree with you.
The banner you are seeing on the front page of the forum is based on the highest bidder. You might keep seeing Mixtum banner for as long as possible if they retain it being the highest bidder. The banner is the first thing that captures my eyes anytime I login to this community. Retaining the banner there means the team is ready for business advertising there site to a larger audience of crypto investors and traders. Good luck to the team in all endeavors.
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Mixtum is a great project.
I see there is potential team behind their project.
TBH, Glad to join the mixtum bounty to learn more about mixtum project and want to try.
Nice to see mixtum open signature bounty here.
If allowed, accept me.
Thank you icopress..
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there are alot of benefits by giving priority on anonymity and privacy. you never can tell who is watching you. its certain that privacy would be a hot topic and companies like blackrock has clients with huge amount also the spot ETF saga has gained more attention for bitcoin so to protect your identity mixers comes in very handy
Privacy and anonymity are being priority for the people who want keep their privacy.
Mixtum is the solution.
icopress brings this signature bounty here, It's good time to participate and gain knowledge about Mixtum project.
Very curious to know what this project can bring us.
hopefully it will make a big contribution to the crypto world.
I'm native member, very thank mixer project coming here.
If icopress and mixers weren't here, maybe I would have found out too late and learned about mixers, especially Mixtum.
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Mixtum is a great project.
I see there is potential team behind their project.
TBH, Glad to join the mixtum bounty to learn more about mixtum project and want to try.
Nice to see mixtum open signature bounty here.
If allowed, accept me.
Thank you icopress..
Mixtum just amazing mixture project which I already reviewed positive feedback here ..
This project has created a signature campaign for us which is very exciting. We are delighted to be able to work on this signature campaign.
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Mixtum just amazing mixture project which I already reviewed positive feedback here ..
This project has created a signature campaign for us which is very exciting. We are delighted to be able to work on this signature campaign.
This campaign will only be intended for users with basic knowledge of Bitcoin.
A VERY tough selection.
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Mixtum is a great project.
I see there is potential team behind their project.
TBH, Glad to join the mixtum bounty to learn more about mixtum project and want to try.
Nice to see mixtum open signature bounty here.
If allowed, accept me.
Thank you icopress..
I have tried the service of MixTum and what I find is that so far, all the people I knew on this forum who have used their services have only said positive things about the platform. One thing I learned about the cryptocurrency space is that they never lie about an issue that is publicly discussed, especially on the decentralized crypto forum.However, I wish the mixer representative could tell us what the mixer team is doing to prevent a bug in the future that can be used by attackers to deanonymize past transactions that have been processed by the mixing services.
I planned to use the platform mixing service for total privacy purposes, and the result so far has been good ever since I used the MixTum mixing service, but I'm a curious type of person and always want to be sure of what I am getting myself into, although sometimes time leads to me asking many questions, which some people don't like at some point.
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Mixtum is a great project.
I see there is potential team behind their project.
TBH, Glad to join the mixtum bounty to learn more about mixtum project and want to try.
Nice to see mixtum open signature bounty here.
If allowed, accept me.
Thank you icopress..
I have tried the service of MixTum and what I find is that so far, all the people I knew on this forum who have used their services have only said positive things about the platform. One thing I learned about the cryptocurrency space is that they never lie about an issue that is publicly discussed, especially on the decentralized crypto forum.However, I wish the mixer representative could tell us what the mixer team is doing to prevent a bug in the future that can be used by attackers to deanonymize past transactions that have been processed by the mixing services.
I planned to use the platform mixing service for total privacy purposes, and the result so far has been good ever since I used the MixTum mixing service, but I'm a curious type of person and always want to be sure of what I am getting myself into, although sometimes time leads to me asking many questions, which some people don't like at some point.
I would highlight your last paragraph, my thoughts are that you never get lost when you ask for directions, so asking questions should be welcome irrespective of the questions.
Mixtum.io is obviously an A-list mixing platform and the reviews from other people about the quality of service they get from mixtum.io back that up, but I think with the incentives attached to the review program organized by the mixtum.io team, some participants would be biased in their review and would love to sugar coat things, the possible solution to this right now is for the team to have a proper screening of the reviews so far and highlights some top reviews for educational purpose for those new to this mixing platform
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Mixtum just amazing mixture project which I already reviewed positive feedback here ..
This project has created a signature campaign for us which is very exciting. We are delighted to be able to work on this signature campaign.
This campaign will only be intended for users with basic knowledge of Bitcoin.
A VERY tough selection.
Good selection, hopefully I will be one of them.
thank you
+1
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However, I wish the mixer representative could tell us what the mixer team is doing to prevent a bug in the future that can be used by attackers to deanonymize past transactions that have been processed by the mixing services.
What bug are you talking about?
Mixtum has been around for a long time, the platform has been more than tested and if I remember correctly it successfully resisted some DDoS attacks. All known "bugs" have been fixed and corrected, I believe that the Mixtum developers know the importance of that and there is no need for us to remind them here how to do their job.
I planned to use the platform mixing service for total privacy purposes, and the result so far has been good ever since I used the MixTum mixing service, but I'm a curious type of person and always want to be sure of what I am getting myself into, although sometimes time leads to me asking many questions, which some people don't like at some point.
I suggest you really try it, I would even suggest you test two or three different mixers. Then you will have a much clearer picture of how things work and what the functional differences are. You will certainly be much more competitive in these kinds of discussions.
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Mixtum just amazing mixture project which I already reviewed positive feedback here ..
This project has created a signature campaign for us which is very exciting. We are delighted to be able to work on this signature campaign.
This campaign will only be intended for users with basic knowledge of Bitcoin.
A VERY tough selection.
Good selection, hopefully I will be one of them.
thank you
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Well the essence of this signature campaign is to promote mixtum.io and Bitcoin mixing in general. This is important in my opinion because the promotion of privacy protection and anonymity can not be overly emphasize.
I think the selection for this signature campaign should be about those who has contributed either by asking questions or answering questions to the promotion and understanding of Bitcoin mixing. ICO press has always been fair in his selections even on Bitcointalk. So may the best hands win.
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Mixtum just amazing mixture project which I already reviewed positive feedback here ..
This project has created a signature campaign for us which is very exciting. We are delighted to be able to work on this signature campaign.
This campaign will only be intended for users with basic knowledge of Bitcoin.
A VERY tough selection.
Good selection, hopefully I will be one of them.
thank you
+1
Well the essence of this signature campaign is to promote mixtum.io and Bitcoin mixing in general. This is important in my opinion because the promotion of privacy protection and anonymity can not be overly emphasize.
Just like the way it used to be on Bitcointalk, the Mixtum campaign has the reputation of highly respected personalities are are guru in anything Bitcoin technical discussion and support. Icopress had been known as a spectacular manager that is very strict about quality not just anyhow participants. One would have to be a good poster and knowledgeable in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency to join his campaign.
I think the selection for this signature campaign should be about those who has contributed either by asking questions or answering questions to the promotion and understanding of Bitcoin mixing. ICO press has always been fair in his selections even on Bitcointalk. So may the best hands win.
Maybe he could also consider this doing selection too. At least the participants need to be knowledgeable of what Bitcoin mixing really entails.
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I think the selection for this signature campaign should be about those who has contributed either by asking questions or answering questions to the promotion and understanding of Bitcoin mixing. ICO press has always been fair in his selections even on Bitcointalk. So may the best hands win.
Maybe he could also consider this doing selection too. At least the participants need to be knowledgeable of what Bitcoin mixing really entails.
As he said “ those with bitcoin knowledge will be selected” so it is difficult to see those that have a vast knowledge of the basic of bitcoin that don’t know what “mixing or mixers” are used for or how they work. So the criteria he has set for the campaign has already covered that area.
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As he said “ those with bitcoin knowledge will be selected” so it is difficult to see those that have a vast knowledge of the basic of bitcoin that don’t know what “mixing or mixers” are used for or how they work. So the criteria he has set for the campaign has already covered that area.
Maybe he is preparing special Bitcoin tests for potential participants, and you can join the campaign only if you pass his test ;)
You can never know everything about Bitcoin and everything connected to it, so you can learn every day.
I would suggest everyone to explore and test Mixtum website before campaign starts, there is an option to try it for free with 0,001 BTC commission-free.
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I would suggest everyone to explore and test Mixtum website before campaign starts, there is an option to try it for free with 0,001 BTC commission-free.
Has anyone used this possibility of trying it for "free"?
In the Letter of guarantee, the maximum service fee is specified. I guess it's some kind of template, but it's still unclear how much will be charged after "test for free".
Does it refer only to the mixer fee of 5% or also to 0.0007 BTC for the network?
Maximum mixing time is 6 hours.
This offer is valid for 168 hours from 2024-02-05 03:29:56 GMT
Maximum service fee is: 5% + 0.0007 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: 63DF..
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Has anyone used this possibility of trying it for "free"?
In the Letter of guarantee, the maximum service fee is specified. I guess it's some kind of template, but it's still unclear how much will be charged after "test for free".
Does it refer only to the mixer fee of 5% or also to 0.0007 BTC for the network?
Maximum mixing time is 6 hours.
This offer is valid for 168 hours from 2024-02-05 03:29:56 GMT
Maximum service fee is: 5% + 0.0007 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: 63DF..
You can refer to Free trial from Mixtum:
You have a unique opportunity to try out our mixing services and see if they meet your needs. Be sure to check out the requirements for trial users: transaction amount has to be exactly 0,001 BTC (neither more nor less), and there should be only one output address[1].
At this point you will only need to pay the transaction fee, and Mixtum will not charge you a fee (from 4 to 5%). This is a good opportunity for everyone to try out and understand how to interact with Mixtum. Mixtum does this in a very smart way to promote and reach potential users.
[1] Mixtum website (https://mixtum.io/)
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You can refer to Free trial from Mixtum:
You have a unique opportunity to try out our mixing services and see if they meet your needs. Be sure to check out the requirements for trial users: transaction amount has to be exactly 0,001 BTC (neither more nor less), and there should be only one output address[1].
At this point you will only need to pay the transaction fee, and Mixtum will not charge you a fee (from 4 to 5%). This is a good opportunity for everyone to try out and understand how to interact with Mixtum. Mixtum does this in a very smart way to promote and reach potential users.
[1] Mixtum website (https://mixtum.io/)
I've already read it all, but I asked about my personal experience because when I started the mixing process, it was not clear whether I would be charged a mixer fee + fixed network fee or not.
For mixing 0.001, the total costs can reach up to 0.00075, which is currently so expensive for me only for testing.
So, I need reliable information from someone who has gone through the process, not just copying from the site.
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(https://i.imgur.com/E554ox7.png) (https://mixtum.io/?videos)
I tried to find out how Mixtum works and provides the best service to all its users and I immediately checked the main Mixtum website.
I seem to have found a typo in the Video section (https://mixtum.io/?videos) of the Mixtum website, from the letter "i" to the letter "u". Please check my screenshot.
This doesn't seem too important for those who have high trust in Mixtum, but in my opinion this is a bit less neat than the appearance of the Mixtum website.
Maybe next time the website development experts from Mixtum can change it properly or maybe it's not a Typo??
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I've already read it all, but I asked about my personal experience because when I started the mixing process, it was not clear whether I would be charged a mixer fee + fixed network fee or not.
For mixing 0.001, the total costs can reach up to 0.00075, which is currently so expensive for me only for testing.
So, I need reliable information from someone who has gone through the process, not just copying from the site.
When I was in their campaign on the BTT forum, I tried the free mix and wrote my review - and I can confirm that the only fee you will pay is the one when you send coins to the mixer, which means only the miners fee. After that, you will receive the total amount that you sent back to the address that you specified in the mixing process.
All this assuming that nothing has changed in the last few months, and as far as I can see from the FAQ, everything has remained the same.
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I've already read it all, but I asked about my personal experience because when I started the mixing process, it was not clear whether I would be charged a mixer fee + fixed network fee or not.
For mixing 0.001, the total costs can reach up to 0.00075, which is currently so expensive for me only for testing.
So, I need reliable information from someone who has gone through the process, not just copying from the site.
Everything is clearly explained in the FAQ (https://mixtum.io/?faq):
10. How does your free trial mixing work?
You can initiate trial mixing via the respective button on the main page. The commission for cleansing will not be charged, but you must send us exactly 0.001 BTC.
I'm just explaining it again so you understand. You will still need to pay 0.0007 BTC as a transaction fee on the Bitcoin network during the Mix process, MixTum cannot pay this transaction fee for you. Free trial was created to help people who do not understand how to use MixTum to experiment with a small amount of BTC 0.001 ~ $40.
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I'm just explaining it again so you understand. You will still need to pay 0.0007 BTC as a transaction fee on the Bitcoin network during the Mix process, MixTum cannot pay this transaction fee for you. Free trial was created to help people who do not understand how to use MixTum to experiment with a small amount of BTC 0.001 ~ $40.
The only fee that needs to be paid when it comes to the "free mixing" option is the one that is paid for sending from the user's wallet to MixTum, and that fee is not fixed but depends on the current situation in the mempool, and on the number of user inputs from which the initial transaction results.
The fee you are talking about is applied to commercial transactions, which means that the user pays "4-5% + 0.0007 BTC (network fee)." I tried the free service a few months ago and I sent exactly 0.001 BTC and got the same amount back.
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I'm just explaining it again so you understand. You will still need to pay 0.0007 BTC as a transaction fee on the Bitcoin network during the Mix process, MixTum cannot pay this transaction fee for you. Free trial was created to help people who do not understand how to use MixTum to experiment with a small amount of BTC 0.001 ~ $40.
You obviously did not understand what I was asking, so I will do it again for you. So I'm not looking for quotes or an explanation of what is written on the site, but asking for personal experience with free mix on Mixtum
For example, Lucius answered exactly as I was looking for:
When I was in their campaign on the BTT forum, I tried the free mix and wrote my review - and I can confirm that the only fee you will pay is the one when you send coins to the mixer, which means only the miners fee. After that, you will receive the total amount that you sent back to the address that you specified in the mixing process.
All this assuming that nothing has changed in the last few months, and as far as I can see from the FAQ, everything has remained the same.
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For example, Lucius answered exactly as I was looking for:
When I was in their campaign on the BTT forum, I tried the free mix and wrote my review - and I can confirm that the only fee you will pay is the one when you send coins to the mixer, which means only the miners fee. After that, you will receive the total amount that you sent back to the address that you specified in the mixing process.
All this assuming that nothing has changed in the last few months, and as far as I can see from the FAQ, everything has remained the same.
At this stage I am starting to understand a little about Bitcoin transaction fees on the Mixer Mixtum platform but I have questions like these:
-Mixtum provides a Bitcoin Mixer service without a fee when Bitcoin mixing occurs and only gets a fee when I send Bitcoin to Mixtum's destination address.
-Then if this is done repeatedly by everyone who uses Mixtum, then how will Mixtum get funds if there is no fee when mixing Bitcoin??
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At this stage I am starting to understand a little about Bitcoin transaction fees on the Mixer Mixtum platform but I have questions like these:
-Mixtum provides a Bitcoin Mixer service without a fee when Bitcoin mixing occurs and only gets a fee when I send Bitcoin to Mixtum's destination address.
-Then if this is done repeatedly by everyone who uses Mixtum, then how will Mixtum get funds if there is no fee when mixing Bitcoin??
It's about mixing without charging a fee for testing purposes. I assume that Mixtum's idea is to encourage its users to try their service. For free testing, there is a limitation that the amount must be exactly 0.001. Not less or not more.
Everything else is considered regular use of the service and Mixer will charge for its services at pre-determined fees. It should be noted that it is for all "commercial" transactions minimum deposit is 0.003 BTC.
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The only fee that needs to be paid when it comes to the "free mixing" option is the one that is paid for sending from the user's wallet to MixTum, and that fee is not fixed but depends on the current situation in the mempool, and on the number of user inputs from which the initial transaction results.
The fee you are talking about is applied to commercial transactions, which means that the user pays "4-5% + 0.0007 BTC (network fee)." I tried the free service a few months ago and I sent exactly 0.001 BTC and got the same amount back.
Thank you so much for reconfirming this feature on Mixtum.
Mixtum can take a more specific example: only 1 output address, send 0.001 BTC, pay mining fees of 4.5K satoshi = $2, receive 0.001 BTC.
Other BTC Mixers should also learn from Mixtum to reach users more easily.
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At this stage I am starting to understand a little about Bitcoin transaction fees on the Mixer Mixtum platform but I have questions like these:
-Mixtum provides a Bitcoin Mixer service without a fee when Bitcoin mixing occurs and only gets a fee when I send Bitcoin to Mixtum's destination address.
-Then if this is done repeatedly by everyone who uses Mixtum, then how will Mixtum get funds if there is no fee when mixing Bitcoin??
It's about mixing without charging a fee for testing purposes. I assume that Mixtum's idea is to encourage its users to try their service. For free testing, there is a limitation that the amount must be exactly 0.001. Not less or not more.
Agghh i see , 0.001 Bitcoin is a value that is limited to testing, very smart ideas from marketing mixtum.
I can also now try to mix bitcoin on the mixtum platform with a value of 0.001 bitcoin.
Everything else is considered regular use of the service and Mixer will charge for its services at pre-determined fees. It should be noted that it is for all "commercial" transactions minimum deposit is 0.003 BTC.
Oh man, i got the ther point. I was too focused on the problem without checking the main website of the mixtum, sorry.
The minimum deposit is 0.003 BTC and this is a fairly large value for now and maybe around 130 USD but for Whales the value is very small because maybe Whales play with dozens of bitcoin to mix on the mixtum platform.
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Thank you so much for reconfirming this feature on Mixtum.
Mixtum can take a more specific example: only 1 output address, send 0.001 BTC, pay mining fees of 4.5K satoshi = $2, receive 0.001 BTC.
Other BTC Mixers should also learn from Mixtum to reach users more easily.
I also had some doubts until I tried it and made sure that the whole thing works, but testing is the best way to understand something. I also agree that (if I'm not mistaken) the free mixing option is a unique feature of MixTum, but I will also say that one mixer that unfortunately no longer exists had the greatest success with the "pay what you want" option, which might not be a bad option for mixing a certain amount, of course more than the 0.001 BTC that exists now.
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Oh man, i got the ther point. I was too focused on the problem without checking the main website of the mixtum, sorry.
The minimum deposit is 0.003 BTC and this is a fairly large value for now and maybe around 130 USD but for Whales the value is very small because maybe Whales play with dozens of bitcoin to mix on the mixtum platform.
With the high price of Bitcoin, along with high fees, all services become significantly more expensive. If this trend continues, for "small" payments, Bitcoin will become unusable.
For example, until now I paid for domain renewal in Bitcoin and the fee was not a problem for me, but the high price + high fee now makes the process significantly more expensive. All this is also reflected on the mixers and it is only worth mixing over 0.01 BTC.
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I also had some doubts until I tried it and made sure that the whole thing works, but testing is the best way to understand something. I also agree that (if I'm not mistaken) the free mixing option is a unique feature of MixTum, but I will also say that one mixer that unfortunately no longer exists had the greatest success with the "pay what you want" option, which might not be a bad option for mixing a certain amount, of course more than the 0.001 BTC that exists now.
Of course, one experiment will be worth many times theory and speculation. MixTum understands this and has provided a free trial feature for potential users.
Some Mixers allow customizing fees according to time and cleanliness of BTC, which is quite handy but sometimes users may not make wise choices, so MixTum has fixed the mixing time to 6h with fees not exceeding 5% + 0.0007 BTC.
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The minimum deposit is 0.003 BTC and this is a fairly large value for now and maybe around 130 USD but for Whales the value is very small because maybe Whales play with dozens of bitcoin to mix on the mixtum platform.
For example, until now I paid for domain renewal in Bitcoin and the fee was not a problem for me, but the high price + high fee now makes the process significantly more expensive. All this is also reflected on the mixers and it is only worth mixing over 0.01 BTC.
How do you mean?
I don't really understand this part, sorry.
Or maybe this is how I see it, the higher the price of Bitcoin, the higher the Bitcoin transaction costs.
All Bitcoin mixer platforms will also increase their minimum deposit balance, so that the mixer platform gets a % share of the profits.
For example, the price of Bitcoin rises to 210,000 USD and the Mixtum platform increases the minimum Bitcoin deposit balance for mixing, which was initially a minimum of 0.003 BTC but increased to 0.01 BTC for minimum deposit, is that what you mean??
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With the high price of Bitcoin, along with high fees, all services become significantly more expensive. If this trend continues, for "small" payments, Bitcoin will become unusable.
No.
We just won't use on-chain transactions for that.
Now we have Lightning, Liquid, and maybe some better layer two solutions will appear soon.
Privacy on-chain is still important and that can be done with more coins.
For example, until now I paid for domain renewal in Bitcoin and the fee was not a problem for me, but the high price + high fee now makes the process significantly more expensive. All this is also reflected on the mixers and it is only worth mixing over 0.01 BTC.
Even if you pay with fiat you have to pay extra fees, paypal and banks are charging and taking their cut all the time.
Right now I can send $5 or $5million dollar worth of Bitcoin and pay $1.3 or 20 sat/vB.
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How do you mean?
I don't really understand this part, sorry.
Or maybe this is how I see it, the higher the price of Bitcoin, the higher the Bitcoin transaction costs.
All Bitcoin mixer platforms will also increase their minimum deposit balance, so that the mixer platform gets a % share of the profits.
For example, the price of Bitcoin rises to 210,000 USD and the Mixtum platform increases the minimum Bitcoin deposit balance for mixing, which was initially a minimum of 0.003 BTC but increased to 0.01 BTC for minimum deposit, is that what you mean??
Currently, the Mixtum service fee is 5% + 0.0007 BTC, so for example, for a mixing amount of 0.003, the total fee will be up to 0.00085 BTC. With network congestion like we've had lately, sending coins to Mixtum can also cost 0.00015 through a network fee. Which is a total of 0.001 BTC, and with the Bitcoin price as you suggest $210k we arrive at the $210 cost of this service.
Sounds crazy, right? This is just an example and applies to all businesses with smaller payment amounts.
With the high price of Bitcoin, along with high fees, all services become significantly more expensive. If this trend continues, for "small" payments, Bitcoin will become unusable.
No.
We just won't use on-chain transactions for that.
Now we have Lightning, Liquid, and maybe some better layer two solutions will appear soon.
Privacy on-chain is still important and that can be done with more coins.
We also have Litecoin, TRX, BNB, Matic, ADA or any other with cheap transactions, but not all of them are implemented as a payment method on many services. Bitcoin is good for large amounts, as you say yourself, but for small amounts, it is definitely out of business.
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I don't think the fees to Mix BTC should be calculated in $, but should be calculated as a % of the initial amount.
For example: I want to Mix 10 BTC, I am willing to pay 5% fees for the service. This is completely normal, even though that 5% would be 0.5BTC = $22K.
When the initial amount is large enough, the +0.0007 BTC fees will be a very small percentage and can be considered insignificant. As in the example above, to Mix 10BTC, I have to pay fees of 5% x 10BTC + 0.0007 BTC = 0.5007 BTC = 5.007% of the initial amount.
Let's consider few estimates:
| Initial (BTC) | | | Fees (BTC) | | | Fees/Initial |
| 0.003 | | | 0.00085 | | | 28.3% |
| 0.005 | | | 0.00095 | | | 19% |
| 0.01 | | | 0.0012 | | | 12% |
| 0.1 | | | 0.00057 | | | 5.7% |
| 1 | | | 0.0507 | | | 5.07% |
| 10 | | | 0.5007 | | | 5.007% |
| 50 | | | 2.5007 | | | 5.0014% |
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For example, the price of Bitcoin rises to 210,000 USD and the Mixtum platform increases the minimum Bitcoin deposit balance for mixing, which was initially a minimum of 0.003 BTC but increased to 0.01 BTC for minimum deposit, is that what you mean??
Currently, the Mixtum service fee is 5% + 0.0007 BTC, so for example, for a mixing amount of 0.003, the total fee will be up to 0.00085 BTC. With network congestion like we've had lately, sending coins to Mixtum can also cost 0.00015 through a network fee. Which is a total of 0.001 BTC, and with the Bitcoin price as you suggest $210k we arrive at the $210 cost of this service.
Sounds crazy, right? This is just an example and applies to all businesses with smaller payment amounts.
Dammnnn, Holy ****. I just found out about this calculation and it made me quite surprised to see that the fees given to them were so large.
The calculations are very systematic and easy for me to understand, I don't hesitate to give you +1 for your answer. 8)
This means that all Bitcoin Mixer platforms have made extraordinary profits.
Users also get satisfaction because they dissolve every Bitcoin transaction they have, even though sacrificing a fairly large fee is not a problem.
I don't think the fees to Mix BTC should be calculated in $, but should be calculated as a % of the initial amount.
For example: I want to Mix 10 BTC, I am willing to pay 5% fees for the service. This is completely normal, even though that 5% would be 0.5BTC = $22K.
When the initial amount is large enough, the +0.0007 BTC fees will be a very small percentage and can be considered insignificant. As in the example above, to Mix 10BTC, I have to pay fees of 5% x 10BTC + 0.0007 BTC = 0.5007 BTC = 5.007% of the initial amount.
Let's consider few estimates:
| Initial (BTC) | | | Fees (BTC) | | | Fees/Initial |
| 0.003 | | | 0.00085 | | | 28.3% |
| 0.005 | | | 0.00095 | | | 19% |
| 0.01 | | | 0.0012 | | | 12% |
| 0.1 | | | 0.00057 | | | 5.7% |
| 1 | | | 0.0507 | | | 5.07% |
| 10 | | | 0.5007 | | | 5.007% |
| 50 | | | 2.5007 | | | 5.0014% |
This means that your statement is exactly the same as the examplens, for mixing Bitcoin with a small value it is a loss to do, but if we mix Bitcoin with a large value then the fee is relatively cheaper than with a small value of Bitcoin when mixing.
It can be seen from the table that there are significant differences starting from number 1 table to the last table.
The fee comparison is the difference with the other ones, the initial fee was 28% and the final fee was only 5%.
The problem is, when do I have 50 Bitcoins to mixing at Mixtum platform? lol
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Dammnnn, Holy ****. I just found out about this calculation and it made me quite surprised to see that the fees given to them were so large.
The calculations are very systematic and easy for me to understand, I don't hesitate to give you +1 for your answer. 8)
This means that all Bitcoin Mixer platforms have made extraordinary profits.
Users also get satisfaction because they dissolve every Bitcoin transaction they have, even though sacrificing a fairly large fee is not a problem.
yes, quite crazy, isn't it? Whenever you hear it being celebrated that Bitcoin broke a new ATH, remember that it's not great for "small" users.
It's not just a matter of mixers, this affects all services that have many small transactions.
You can also see this list of almost all mixers, their service fees and other features they offer LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅ (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.0)
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yes, quite crazy, isn't it? Whenever you hear it being celebrated that Bitcoin broke a new ATH, remember that it's not great for "small" users.
It's not just a matter of mixers, this affects all services that have many small transactions.
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If we're being honest, the fees went wild in the past months just because some decided to use the BTC blockchain for something that definitely doesn't belong there - the price of BTC has nothing to do with the fees (mostly). If you look at the statistics in the last 7 days, you can see that the price of BTC went up almost 10%, and the fees are very low.
I would say that "small users" really have reason to be happy these days, and to hope that no new "mempool usurpers" will appear.
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You can also see this list of almost all mixers, their service fees and other features they offer LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅ (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.0)
Welp, so Mixtum is really one of the high asking fees mixers. Based on this list, every jambler partnered sites have somewhat similar on fee structure and could be something on the code or partnership itself. So the mixer asking little to no (dynamic) fees era are long gone.
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Welp, so Mixtum is really one of the high asking fees mixers. Based on this list, every jambler partnered sites have somewhat similar on fee structure and could be something on the code or partnership itself. So the mixer asking little to no (dynamic) fees era are long gone.
I think that users on the whole don't pay much attention to fees (of course, as long as it's not ridiculous) when they know they're getting a reliable service in return.
Unfortunately, in our world, privacy comes at a price, and that's not going to get any easier in the near future imo.
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You can also see this list of almost all mixers, their service fees and other features they offer LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅ (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.0)
Welp, so Mixtum is really one of the high asking fees mixers. Based on this list, every jambler partnered sites have somewhat similar on fee structure and could be something on the code or partnership itself. So the mixer asking little to no (dynamic) fees era are long gone.
It is gone, because regulators have their eyes on mixers and are trying to limit their operation. It is not easy to work in such conditions, especially given that advertising if mixers services is also being condensed. Despite the fact that there can be no real consequences for most users, bans in some countries discourage and intimidate many people from using these services. And this does not help attract new clients. Mixers must survive and must provide the services they offer. Therefore, it is not surprising that the fees are high. But I don't see any problem with that as long as the quality of provided services is high.
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If we're being honest, the fees went wild in the past months just because some decided to use the BTC blockchain for something that definitely doesn't belong there - the price of BTC has nothing to do with the fees (mostly). If you look at the statistics in the last 7 days, you can see that the price of BTC went up almost 10%, and the fees are very low.
I would say that "small users" really have reason to be happy these days, and to hope that no new "mempool usurpers" will appear.
It seems you are talking about the Inscription trend on the Bitcoin blockchain. They have caused network congestion and pushed transaction fees to very high levels, even $20 per transaction. However, we are seeing the rise of Layer-2 solutions on Bitcoin such as Stacks, Liquid, RootStock, SatoshiVM..., this will be a new home for Inscription and the Bitcoin network will be peaceful for basic purposes.
As fees decrease, users will benefit from sending BTC to the address specified by MixTum. I even hope that MixTum can lower the minimum cost in the future, 0.0007 BTC can be reduced to 0.0005 BTC :D
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It seems you are talking about the Inscription trend on the Bitcoin blockchain. They have caused network congestion and pushed transaction fees to very high levels, even $20 per transaction. However, we are seeing the rise of Layer-2 solutions on Bitcoin such as Stacks, Liquid, RootStock, SatoshiVM..., this will be a new home for Inscription and the Bitcoin network will be peaceful for basic purposes.
The fees have actually reached almost double the amount you mention, but it should be taken into account that the fee depends not only on the current state of the mempool, but also on how many inputs/outputs you have in your transaction. This means that transactions can be quite expensive for some if they have a lot of so-called "dust transactions" and for those who don't know that in some wallets there is an option called "coin control" with which we can very precisely spend exactly what we want and thus avoid a large transaction price.
As fees decrease, users will benefit from sending BTC to the address specified by MixTum. I even hope that MixTum can lower the minimum cost in the future, 0.0007 BTC can be reduced to 0.0005 BTC :D
Look, it can always be too expensive for the one who sends it, but we have to take into account that the mixer has to somehow make money for all the costs it has, as well as for some kind of profit, which is why such a service exists.
What I can say is that if MixTum does well, I assume that it will provide even better conditions for users in the future.
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Look, it can always be too expensive for the one who sends it, but we have to take into account that the mixer has to somehow make money for all the costs it has, as well as for some kind of profit, which is why such a service exists.
I agree with you most of the services want to gain some kind of revenue but they're providing good privacy and their mixing is working in the best way possible and that's more than enough for us.
Such services has some costs and they also want to earn money by offering those services. I think it's worth it to spend money in order to have best mixing experience and in that department Mixtum is doing a great job.
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I think it's worth it to spend money in order to have best mixing experience and in that department Mixtum is doing a great job.
For those who want to protect their privacy and at the same time use Bitcoin for payment, these services really provide an essential service. Given that the blockchain is a public record of all transactions, it is quite logical to break the link between the coins that we keep in safe storage and those coins that we pay for something with, especially if that payment includes the delivery of some goods to our physical address.
We never know who can get hold of that data and then connect our BTC with our identity, which is by no means something that should happen.
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The fees have actually reached almost double the amount you mention, but it should be taken into account that the fee depends not only on the current state of the mempool, but also on how many inputs/outputs you have in your transaction. This means that transactions can be quite expensive for some if they have a lot of so-called "dust transactions" and for those who don't know that in some wallets there is an option called "coin control" with which we can very precisely spend exactly what we want and thus avoid a large transaction price.
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Look, it can always be too expensive for the one who sends it, but we have to take into account that the mixer has to somehow make money for all the costs it has, as well as for some kind of profit, which is why such a service exists.
What I can say is that if MixTum does well, I assume that it will provide even better conditions for users in the future.
Yeah, I understand the mechanism for determining transaction fees: the more complex, the more vB needed, the busier the network, the higher the price per vB. I think we can only expect the latter: the network is less busy, the price per vB will decrease and users pay less, MixTum itself will not need to spend too much money when operating, From there, it is possible to reduce transaction fees from 0.0007 to lower fees.
MixTum also needs income and profits to maintain its service, and users who really need it will worry too much about transaction fees. As I estimated in the table, when the amount of BTC needed to be mixed is over 1 BTC, the fee will return to nearly 5%.
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For those who want to protect their privacy and at the same time use Bitcoin for payment, these services really provide an essential service. Given that the blockchain is a public record of all transactions, it is quite logical to break the link between the coins that we keep in safe storage and those coins that we pay for something with, especially if that payment includes the delivery of some goods to our physical address.
We never know who can get hold of that data and then connect our BTC with our identity, which is by no means something that should happen.
Yes, you're right and whatever you said is very true. The mixers are a gift for those who want their coins to be untraceable and want those to have highest privacy. Most people who hold their Bitcoin would use mixers to send those coins at multiple wallets so others might not know that how many wallets they have and what they have done with their BTC.
I believe privacy is the most important thing in someone's life and those services help us to achieve maximum privacy with our Bitcoin. You can simply send you Bitcoin from one wallet to other and then again to other but that can be traced by chainlink experts but I'm very sure mixed coins can't be traced by anyone and thus it's a win-win situation for the one who mixes his/her coins, and for the mixers.
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I've been trying to access Mixtum for hours and am still unable to do so.
I've been unable to visit both the clearnet and onion sites; could someone else please try? I'm not sure if it's just my end or in general.
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I've been trying to access Mixtum for hours and am still unable to do so.
I've been unable to visit both the clearnet and onion sites; could someone else please try? I'm not sure if it's just my end or in general.
It's the same thing with me. Both sites are offline clearnet and onion.
We will wait for an official announcement from someone from the Mixtum team.
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I've been trying to access Mixtum for hours and am still unable to do so.
I've been unable to visit both the clearnet and onion sites; could someone else please try? I'm not sure if it's just my end or in general.
Links for both Mixtum websites are down for me and they cant be accessed now.
I didnt see any planned maintenance work, but better to wait from officials or manager to post more information.
Does anyone know if Mixtum have account in telegram or somewhere else?
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I've been trying to access Mixtum for hours and am still unable to do so.
I've been unable to visit both the clearnet and onion sites; could someone else please try? I'm not sure if it's just my end or in general.
From your post timestamp it looks like the website is down for several hours now, accessing it via my phone device gives me "web server down" error. There's still no official statement from OP too.
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...MixTum itself will not need to spend too much money when operating, From there, it is possible to reduce transaction fees from 0.0007 to lower fees.
The "problem" with your idea is that at any moment the fees can change drastically, and it is difficult for any service to automatically react to such changes, and therefore they set some kind of fixed fee that serves as a protective mechanism.
MixTum also needs income and profits to maintain its service, and users who really need it will worry too much about transaction fees. As I estimated in the table, when the amount of BTC needed to be mixed is over 1 BTC, the fee will return to nearly 5%.
Such a fee may seem too high compared to other mixers, but MixTum has (as far as I know) a unique mixing method, which consists in the fact that the user does not receive coins that are the product of mixing coins that arrive in the mixer, but they are BTC that come directly from various CEXs. In this way, a much higher level of privacy is obtained, and then it must have a slightly higher price.
I can also confirm that the mixer is down, we hope it's just regular maintenance, and this has happened in the past, so for now we have to wait until the situation is resolved.
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The "problem" with your idea is that at any moment the fees can change drastically, and it is difficult for any service to automatically react to such changes, and therefore they set some kind of fixed fee that serves as a protective mechanism.
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Such a fee may seem too high compared to other mixers, but MixTum has (as far as I know) a unique mixing method, which consists in the fact that the user does not receive coins that are the product of mixing coins that arrive in the mixer, but they are BTC that come directly from various CEXs. In this way, a much higher level of privacy is obtained, and then it must have a slightly higher price.
I can also confirm that the mixer is down, we hope it's just regular maintenance, and this has happened in the past, so for now we have to wait until the situation is resolved.
Yeah, I understand this, Mixtum has a reason to charge high fees to protect the business model and quality of BTC Mixing. The cost of withdrawing from CEX is quite expensive compared to transferring BTC onchain, for example Binance charges 0.00062 for BTC SegWit.
At the moment Mixtum site is still under maintenance and cannot be accessed. I hope this process will end soon and Mixtum will continue to serve users with better quality. I'm waiting for new features or options on Mixtum 8)
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Yeah, I understand this, Mixtum has a reason to charge high fees to protect the business model and quality of BTC Mixing. The cost of withdrawing from CEX is quite expensive compared to transferring BTC onchain, for example Binance charges 0.00062 for BTC SegWit.
And they are doing terrible job in managing transaction fees among other things :P
Binance is one of the main reasons why we don't have much lower fees on bitcoin now, they have huge amount of unconfirmed transactions.
At the moment Mixtum site is still under maintenance and cannot be accessed. I hope this process will end soon and Mixtum will continue to serve users with better quality. I'm waiting for new features or options on Mixtum 8)
Did anyone explain what the heck is happening with Mixtum?
I can't access their website also.
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And they are doing terrible job in managing transaction fees among other things :P
Binance is one of the main reasons why we don't have much lower fees on bitcoin now, they have huge amount of unconfirmed transactions.
Wasn't there some information that Binance has its own pool, just because of transaction confirmations and low fee?
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MixTum is undergoing maintenance.
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Does Mixtum plan to start new signature and review campaign in AltcoinsTalks forum soon?
I see there is big visible Mixtum banner on top of forum page but additional signature promotion would make positive impact.
Honestly, this is quite likely. But for now there is no need for this since there is banner advertising.
Perhaps in a month or two I will return to this thought! Thank you!
I hope altcoinstalks.com campaigns and advertising has a good seo impact.
Bitcointalk impact is huge, this is why so many people advertise there.
Imo, we lack more technical discussions because those discussions are the ones which rank high in Google.
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I hope altcoinstalks.com campaigns and advertising has a good seo impact.
Bitcointalk impact is huge, this is why so many people advertise there.
Imo, we lack more technical discussions because those discussions are the ones which rank high in Google.
Bitcointalk has been online for many years and altcoinstalks isn't as old as Bitcointalk but I can see now that this forum is also getting very active because of the mixers that are advertising their services on this forum.
I'm very sure that if such traffic continues here and many topics and good replies continue flowing here then this forum can also play a very important role for SEO purposes.
In future if the growth continues then we might see this forum in top Google ranks which's going to be very useful and I'm also pretty sure that such growth will be fruitful for the mixers that are advertising their services on this forum including Mixtum.
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Wasn't there some information that Binance has its own pool, just because of transaction confirmations and low fee?
They have binance pool for more profit not because of lower transaction fees, and you can see that is not working out for them because someone is not going their job like they should.
I hope altcoinstalks.com campaigns and advertising has a good seo impact.
Make it happen :)
SEO optimization would help a little,but you can't create a real tech discussion from nothing.
Mixtum and other mixers can also help with adding links to altcoinstalks forum.
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Bitcointalk has been online for many years and altcoinstalks isn't as old as Bitcointalk but I can see now that this forum is also getting very active because of the mixers that are advertising their services on this forum.
I'm very sure that if such traffic continues here and many topics and good replies continue flowing here then this forum can also play a very important role for SEO purposes.
In future if the growth continues then we might see this forum in top Google ranks which's going to be very useful and I'm also pretty sure that such growth will be fruitful for the mixers that are advertising their services on this forum including Mixtum.
AltcoinsTalks forum is growing strongly thanks to market recovery, teleported members and quality signature campaigns. I see that the quality of the forum is improving, the number of visits is increasing and helping crypto Mixing services to be promoted to crypto users. Friendliness will help AltcoinsTalks continue to grow.
- AltcoinsTalks forum simple monthly report: Jan 2024 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316731.0)
MixTum is being promoted on the Global banner, the best position of AltcoinsTalks forum, so I believe MixTum will have more users. In addition, MixTum's ANN also helps AltcoinsTalks reach more crypto users, the forum will have more members with more experience in the crypto market.
AltcoinsTalks welcomes MixTum ;D
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MixTum is undergoing maintenance.
The site is still down, any info on when it should be back online?
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MixTum is undergoing maintenance.
The site is still down, any info on when it should be back online?
Until today it is still down. I'm afraid this could lead huge loss of profit on Mixtum's end if this will still continue. Signature campaigns and other existing promotion or ads is somewhat useless. Can someone tell if the .onion site is down too? (I'm not a tor user so)
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Until today it is still down. I'm afraid this could lead huge loss of profit on Mixtum's end if this will still continue. Signature campaigns and other existing promotion or ads is somewhat useless. Can someone tell if the .onion site is down too? (I'm not a tor user so)
Onion version is down too for now (URL used: https://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/)
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Onion version is down too for now (URL used: https://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/)
Is it just me that this is getting weird, having the site been down for several days now? Maintenance should be just a few hours or at least a day. I see the site is hosted in namecheap and idk if namecheap doesn't have any restrictions on such site's category.
Anyway, I hope the site will be fixed soon.
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Until today it is still down. I'm afraid this could lead huge loss of profit on Mixtum's end if this will still continue. Signature campaigns and other existing promotion or ads is somewhat useless. Can someone tell if the .onion site is down too? (I'm not a tor user so)
I think I saw that at least one mixer is in maintenance, and I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that several mixers have currently paused their sig campaigns on the forum. We can only hope that things will return to normal with the beginning of the new week.
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I think I saw that at least one mixer is in maintenance, and I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that several mixers have currently paused their sig campaigns on the forum. We can only hope that things will return to normal with the beginning of the new week.
MixTum has been running since 2018 so I believe it will continue to do well in the future. It's possible that the MixTum team is working on an important upgrade to improve the service and make MixTum more user-friendly. I'm not worried about the future of MixTum, I'm just waiting for MixTum's improvements when it returns ;D
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Until today it is still down. I'm afraid this could lead huge loss of profit on Mixtum's end if this will still continue. Signature campaigns and other existing promotion or ads is somewhat useless. Can someone tell if the .onion site is down too? (I'm not a tor user so)
I think I saw that at least one mixer is in maintenance, and I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that several mixers have currently paused their sig campaigns on the forum. We can only hope that things will return to normal with the beginning of the new week.
This may take a little longer than usual for regular service maintenance. I've just tested the Mixtum Telegram bot, and there's no response there either.
It's possible that the MixTum team is working on an important upgrade to improve the service and make MixTum more user-friendly.
Mixtum had one of the better interfaces when it comes to mixer services, why do you think that improving user-friendliness should be worked on here?
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Mixtum had one of the better interfaces when it comes to mixer services, why do you think that improving user-friendliness should be worked on here?
I agree with you that MixTum has an extremely beautiful and user-friendly interface, and I do not ask the MixTum team to improve the website's interface. I just guess that something new and big is coming, the interface is one of the things that comes to mind. This is just my own guess, not a quest I gave ^^
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This must be one of the longest time period to see Mixtum service and website are not available.
It doesnt look good to continue advertising in forum and signatures if you cant use this service.
Does anyone know they are coming back online and finishing this maintanence?
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Mixtum had one of the better interfaces when it comes to mixer services, why do you think that improving user-friendliness should be worked on here?
Well I have not used Mixtum to mixed coins but I will use it when mixing next time but I have used few of them and their services were good and smoothly. But what I want to say here is that there is different between having a good interface in the platform and having a good services in the platform. Mixtum platform is normally good but I can't speak for the services. And if the services are not good it would be the customers who are using the site will have a good input to it and not the outsiders. And if the side is down for sometimes then, they should inform the company through their representatives why the downturn of the site so that there would be no panic. That is one of the proactive step for a good project management.
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Well I have not used Mixtum to mixed coins but I will use it when mixing next time but I have used few of them and their services were good and smoothly. But what I want to say here is that there is different between having a good interface in the platform and having a good services in the platform. Mixtum platform is normally good but I can't speak for the services. And if the services are not good it would be the customers who are using the site will have a good input to it and not the outsiders. And if the side is down for sometimes then, they should inform the company through their representatives why the downturn of the site so that there would be no panic. That is one of the proactive step for a good project management.
This topic on AltcoinsTalks is considered a support channel for MixTum users, and MixTum has clearly announced this Maintenance. MixTum has been operating and serving users very well since 2018, so I think we don't need to worry too much.
MixTum is undergoing maintenance.
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This must be one of the longest time period to see Mixtum service and website are not available.
It doesnt look good to continue advertising in forum and signatures if you cant use this service.
Does anyone know they are coming back online and finishing this maintanence?
I fundamentally disagree with you.
Promotion through a signature campaign is a long-term strategy that requires a lot of effort and time for the brand to take its rightful place in the niche. And neither I nor MixTum believe that a maintenance break should in any way affect the campaign.
The core of our community (in particular MixTum supporters) should feel confident regardless of the circumstances.
p.s. Those works are related to the fact that Jumbler is updating its security system, so this affected MixTum.
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I fundamentally disagree with you.
Promotion through a signature campaign is a long-term strategy that requires a lot of effort and time for the brand to take its rightful place in the niche. And neither I nor MixTum believe that a maintenance break should in any way affect the campaign.
The core of our community (in particular MixTum supporters) should feel confident regardless of the circumstances.
p.s. Those works are related to the fact that Jumbler is updating its security system, so this affected MixTum.
Thank you icopress for this valuable update!
I believe that MixTum supporters and users still have faith in MixTum's services in the crypto market!
I'm very happy to wear avatar and signature to increase brand recognition for MixTum on the AltcoinsTalks forum!
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I believe that MixTum supporters and users still have faith in MixTum's services in the crypto market!
Say no more, mixtum website is accessible now, visited it just few hours ago, at least on my end.
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Say no more, mixtum website is accessible now, visited it just few hours ago, at least on my end.
It appears that this was only temporary as it is not working at the moment. In any case, it's good that we got an update on the situation, so now we know what it's really about. I hope that both services will make their upgrades and come back even stronger and better than before.
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MixTum is now working normally again.
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It appears that this was only temporary as it is not working at the moment. In any case, it's good that we got an update on the situation, so now we know what it's really about. I hope that both services will make their upgrades and come back even stronger and better than before.
Now MixTum is working again with all its strength, I just checked and can access the MixTum website. It appears that all issues from Jumbler have been resolved and users can continue using MixTum to protect the anonymity of their BTC.
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MixTum is now working normally again.
It still doesn't work for me (onion link), but I can confirm that the clearnet address is active again, although difficult to access if accessed with Tor (CF captcha).
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MixTum is now working normally again.
Mixtum onion website is not working for me, so I guess they didnt complete maintenance or maybe they changed something with the link?
Clearnet version is ok but I would not use that for any serious mixing.
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This must be one of the longest time period to see Mixtum service and website are not available.
It doesnt look good to continue advertising in forum and signatures if you cant use this service.
Does anyone know they are coming back online and finishing this maintanence?
Services have to go under maintenance from time to time, otherwise they won't develop and fix shortcomings. This is a normal practice and I consider this an advantage and an indicator that MixTum is a reliable and long-term player that cares about its reputation and user experience. It does look good, because there were an official notice about suspending work and then returning to it.
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The Mixtum onion site is still offline. I guess it's not a serious problem with the new update
If I may ask, what about the Mixtum collectible cards, are they all spent on Btt or is there any chance that we will see a raffle with them here?
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The Mixtum onion site is still offline. I guess it's not a serious problem with the new update
If I may ask, what about the Mixtum collectible cards, are they all spent on Btt or is there any chance that we will see a raffle with them here?
I think the last 12 Mixtum cards were won in the raffle organised by Gazeta on BTT. It seems that there are no more pending and that everything has been distributed.
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I think the last 12 Mixtum cards were won in the raffle organised by Gazeta on BTT. It seems that there are no more pending and that everything has been distributed.
Who knows, maybe there will be an Altcoinstalks collectable series :D
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Who knows, maybe there will be an Altcoinstalks collectable series :D
I hope so!
I was lucky enough to win a Unijoin card, but I still miss a Mixtum one in my collection :D
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The Mixtum onion site is still offline. I guess it's not a serious problem with the new update
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I hope that they will fix it as soon as possible, because those who value their privacy a little more than others are still looking for this way of accessing the mixer. I wonder what the reason is that the onion site is not yet operational, because I have no doubt that the people behind this mixer are not able to do it in a very short time.
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I hope that they will fix it as soon as possible, because those who value their privacy a little more than others are still looking for this way of accessing the mixer. I wonder what the reason is that the onion site is not yet operational, because I have no doubt that the people behind this mixer are not able to do it in a very short time.
I think we should wait for a clear answer from MixTum team about Tor Mirror version. Clearnet version came back after the issue with Jumbler was resolved, I hope MixTum doesn't face any serious issues this time. The return of Tor Mirror version will meet the strict security needs of users.
I think the last 12 Mixtum cards were won in the raffle organised by Gazeta on BTT.
Please tell us more about MixTum collectable cards, are they NFTs BRC-20 and what is their value?
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Please tell us more about MixTum collectable cards, are they NFTs BRC-20 and what is their value?
These are physical plastic cards/wallets with Mixtum print. They can be loaded with Bitcoin (I think some were given away with a 0.001BTC balance). After the ban on promoting mixers on Btt, the entire series was distributed at the end of the year.
Here are the original pictures so you know what it is about
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PSRB8.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PSzFw.png)
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If you really want this cards you need to to contact team Icarus in bitcointalk forum, they are making them.
I can also make special edition Satochip cards that can be used as open source hardware wallet and seed phrase backup, but there needs to be more interested members who are willing to pay for this.
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These are physical plastic cards/wallets with Mixtum print. They can be loaded with Bitcoin (I think some were given away with a 0.001BTC balance).
Can they be loaded only with Bitcoin or some other currencies as well? And how can I use those Bitcoins with this card? Like any other credit/debit card for online purchases and by using terminal? If so, will my Bitcoins convert automatically into some local currency or can I use it only to buy things, which price is defined in bitcoin? Or is it more like a wallet for storage crypto?
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Can they be loaded only with Bitcoin or some other currencies as well? And how can I use those Bitcoins with this card? Like any other credit/debit card for online purchases and by using terminal? If so, will my Bitcoins convert automatically into some local currency or can I use it only to buy things, which price is defined in bitcoin? Or is it more like a wallet for storage crypto?
For now, at my knowledge Icarus cards are BTC-only. Would love some XMR cards btw.
If you want to spend your BTC, you have to import the private key hidden on the card. It can be done easily through Electrum.
Once done, you will have access to the funds.
These cards are more like collectibles, they are not able to make payments.
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Can they be loaded only with Bitcoin or some other currencies as well? And how can I use those Bitcoins with this card? Like any other credit/debit card for online purchases and by using terminal? If so, will my Bitcoins convert automatically into some local currency or can I use it only to buy things, which price is defined in bitcoin? Or is it more like a wallet for storage crypto?
For now, at my knowledge Icarus cards are BTC-only. Would love some XMR cards btw.
Given that it is only a matter of printing, I believe that it is not a special requirement that there be other currencies besides BTC.
These cards are more like collectibles, they are not able to make payments.
Collectibles with the option of a guaranteed value. I will have some special occasions during the year, I will probably use the custom Satochip as a gift.
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Can they be loaded only with Bitcoin or some other currencies as well?
They are not, just collectibles. If card collectibles like this is loaded, it means the private key and wallet address is printed on the key while the private card is something like partially hidden.
And how can I use those Bitcoins with this card? Like any other credit/debit card for online purchases and by using terminal? If so, will my Bitcoins convert automatically into some local currency or can I use it only to buy things, which price is defined in bitcoin? Or is it more like a wallet for storage crypto?
This is more like collectibles, knowing it's a mixer's "featured product" i don't think a debit/credit card product is suitable for them.
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For now, at my knowledge Icarus cards are BTC-only. Would love some XMR cards btw.
If you want to spend your BTC, you have to import the private key hidden on the card. It can be done easily through Electrum.
Once done, you will have access to the funds.
These cards are more like collectibles, they are not able to make payments.
MixTum cards look great, to me they are like real NFTs for us to collect and keep as souvenirs. I also have no need to pay because using crypto in my country is the simplest way to be sent to prison :)
I hope that they will have some effect, for example this is a gift to community members who have been supporting and promoting MixTum. It would be better if there was a gift-code on the card to reduce BTC mixing fee on MixTum ^^
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MixTum cards look great, to me they are like real NFTs for us to collect and keep as souvenirs. I also have no need to pay because using crypto in my country is the simplest way to be sent to prison :)
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From your post history, I assume which country you are from - although it is strange to me that they have banned payment with cryptocurrencies, and at the same time allow trading and storage of them. As far as I know, Thailand and Turkey have similar laws, so even though the ban is not complete - when you ban cryptocurrency as a currency, you have destroyed the essence of its existence.
As for the fines, I found that they are only monetary and there is no mention of prison - maybe you go to prison if you can't pay the fine?
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From your post history, I assume which country you are from - although it is strange to me that they have banned payment with cryptocurrencies, and at the same time allow trading and storage of them. As far as I know, Thailand and Turkey have similar laws, so even though the ban is not complete - when you ban cryptocurrency as a currency, you have destroyed the essence of its existence.
As for the fines, I found that they are only monetary and there is no mention of prison - maybe you go to prison if you can't pay the fine?
Currently, Vietnam only allows people to hold and trade crypto. Using crypto to pay instead of fiat is considered a violation of the law, affecting the economy. If the violation is on a large scale and creates serious consequences, the violator may have to go to prison. In Vietnam, not all crimes can be settled with money.
When crypto is in a gray area, victims of crypto scams are not protected by law. In return, crypto investors in Vietnam do not need to pay tax on crypto income 8)
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When crypto is in a gray area, victims of crypto scams are not protected by law.
I think that protecting yourself from scams is the task solely of the person himself. You cannot rely on the law in this matter. Even if cryptocurrency is not in a grey area, it remains a fairly vast field with blurred boundaries, and legislation is not able to adapt to it so quickly. Even if the law requires that scammers be prosecuted, it could take years. And after such a time, the result may no longer be relevant. Therefore, it is a personal responsibility to avoid scammers and improve your personal security.
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I think that protecting yourself from scams is the task solely of the person himself. You cannot rely on the law in this matter. Even if cryptocurrency is not in a grey area, it remains a fairly vast field with blurred boundaries, and legislation is not able to adapt to it so quickly. Even if the law requires that scammers be prosecuted, it could take years. And after such a time, the result may no longer be relevant. Therefore, it is a personal responsibility to avoid scammers and improve your personal security.
Yeah, I understand this, but I think in some cases, we need government intervention to punish scammers in the market, especially when we have enough evidence. In 2017-2018, a $660M crypto scam took place in Vietnam, the victims had enough evidence but could not put the scammers in jail because the law could not yet identify the crypto/token is money, property or goods.
Perhaps right now the scammers are enjoying a luxurious life somewhere, while the victims are still paying off their debts for the rest of their lives.
I hope our government will have a clear legal framework and a low crypto income tax of less than 10%, which will help the government have more budget to continue promoting blockchain technology in Vietnam.
[1] Vietnam: Pincoin, Ifan ICOs Exposed As Scams That Allegedly Stole $660 Million (https://cointelegraph.com/news/vietnam-pincoin-ifan-icos-exposed-as-scams-that-allegedly-stole-660-million)
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Mixtum onion site is still offline?
http://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/
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Mixtum onion site is still offline?
http://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion/
Checked it and it's still the same, there's no follow updates of the team too, well, they don't have official rep here so.. This is really a huge drawback to those who wants full privacy when dealing mixers especially mixtum's clearnet website is using cloudflare.
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Checked it and it's still the same, there's no follow updates of the team too, well, they don't have official rep here so.. This is really a huge drawback to those who wants full privacy when dealing mixers especially mixtum's clearnet website is using cloudflare.
I just sent them an email to ask for some updates on this
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Checked it and it's still the same, there's no follow updates of the team too, well, they don't have official rep here so.. This is really a huge drawback to those who wants full privacy when dealing mixers especially mixtum's clearnet website is using cloudflare.
I think they might be having some hosting related issues with their tor mirror, and I believe they'll fix it soon. Mixtum has been on the picture for a long term and they really care about the privacy of their users. I believe they might be working in background to solve that issue and they may have their tor mirror up and running once again.
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I think they might be having some hosting related issues with their tor mirror, and I believe they'll fix it soon. Mixtum has been on the picture for a long term and they really care about the privacy of their users. I believe they might be working in background to solve that issue and they may have their tor mirror up and running once again.
A large number of mixer users use TOR exclusively, I would not say that in the case when the onion site does not work, they switch to the clearnet site. Especially if there is serious competition.
The losses are certainly noticeable, which is why it is unusual that the onion site has been offline for so long.
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A large number of mixer users use TOR exclusively, I would not say that in the case when the onion site does not work, they switch to the clearnet site. Especially if there is serious competition.
The losses are certainly noticeable, which is why it is unusual that the onion site has been offline for so long.
You're right mixer users give more priority to Tor usage and they always use the Onion side of a mixer. Those users who use clearnet site often don't mix huge amounts and that's why it's mandatory for Mixtum to check and fix their Onion site as soon as they possibly can. I'm sure that Mixtum team might find these posts and try their best to fix out their onion site.
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You're right mixer users give more priority to Tor usage and they always use the Onion side of a mixer. Those users who use clearnet site often don't mix huge amounts and that's why it's mandatory for Mixtum to check and fix their Onion site as soon as they possibly can. I'm sure that Mixtum team might find these posts and try their best to fix out their onion site.
From my personal observation, I would not agree that this is exactly the case, and somehow it seems to me that Tor is not something that most of those who use mixers are familiar with. From what I've observed over the years on the BTT forum, very few members use Tor because it's too slow for them, or they simply don't know that it's a regular browser like all other browsers with the exception that it's focused on privacy.
I don't know why MixTum hasn't fixed his onion page for so long, but maybe it has something to do with the case of an alleged scam that happened to another mixer, and a malicious tor exit node is also mentioned as a potential cause. I already wrote before that I don't think the point is that they can't do it, but that they have a good reason why that version of the site doesn't work.
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From my personal observation, I would not agree that this is exactly the case, and somehow it seems to me that Tor is not something that most of those who use mixers are familiar with. From what I've observed over the years on the BTT forum, very few members use Tor because it's too slow for them, or they simply don't know that it's a regular browser like all other browsers with the exception that it's focused on privacy.
I don't know why MixTum hasn't fixed his onion page for so long, but maybe it has something to do with the case of an alleged scam that happened to another mixer, and a malicious tor exit node is also mentioned as a potential cause. I already wrote before that I don't think the point is that they can't do it, but that they have a good reason why that version of the site doesn't work.
I myself used to Mix BTC but only used Clearnet instead of Tor. I understand that we have to trade speed for better anonymity on the Internet, but think Mixer has secured that for my BTC. Maybe Tor helps mask my IP but that's not too important for me personally, maybe it's a problem for others.
Anyway, I hope MixTum teams will solve this problem soon. Users have different needs and MixTum's mission is to maintain its services to serve the needs of users to compete with other BTC Mixers services. I think a reasonable reason from the MixTum team will help users feel secure and be more patient.
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From my personal observation, I would not agree that this is exactly the case, and somehow it seems to me that Tor is not something that most of those who use mixers are familiar with. ~~~~
Well, I do respect your personal observation and you may be right with whatever you said, but I'm very sure that those who mix huge amounts may prefer tor version because they want best privacy and they also know about the Tor.
I'm talking about the ones who might mix 10's to 100's of Bitcoin. If I'm not wrong then mixers mostly want those type of whales who may mix huge amounts at a single go, regular users or those who want privacy of their coins may mix $150 worth to $2000 worth of Bitcoin at a go and such people may not have any problem even with Clearnet site.
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From my personal observation, I would not agree that this is exactly the case, and somehow it seems to me that Tor is not something that most of those who use mixers are familiar with. ~~~~
Well, I do respect your personal observation and you may be right with whatever you said, but I'm very sure that those who mix huge amounts may prefer tor version because they want best privacy and they also know about the Tor.
I'm talking about the ones who might mix 10's to 100's of Bitcoin. If I'm not wrong then mixers mostly want those type of whales who may mix huge amounts at a single go, regular users or those who want privacy of their coins may mix $150 worth to $2000 worth of Bitcoin at a go and such people may not have any problem even with Clearnet site.
The main essential characteristic of mixers is precisely the provision of anonymity and untraceability. Of course, users will strive to ensure this anonymity in every possible way, and using an anonymous browser will be their priority, in my opinion.
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I myself used to Mix BTC but only used Clearnet instead of Tor. I understand that we have to trade speed for better anonymity on the Internet, but think Mixer has secured that for my BTC. Maybe Tor helps mask my IP but that's not too important for me personally, maybe it's a problem for others.
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I value maximum privacy, and that definitely includes using the onion version, because regardless of the trust you have in the mixer, past cases have shown that if the authorities seize them, they find a lot more than what they should find. Maybe you are not doing anything illegal and you have no problem with the mixer or someone else knowing from which IP address the Bitcoin came, but if you are already mixing BTC, why not do it completely privately?
Well, I do respect your personal observation and you may be right with whatever you said, but I'm very sure that those who mix huge amounts may prefer tor version because they want best privacy and they also know about the Tor.
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You're probably right, although sometimes we come across cases of people who had a lot of BTC and lost it in a rather bizarre way, so I wouldn't say that those who have more BTC are those who value their privacy more. I think that the feeling for privacy is not something that is closely related to BTC, but still depends on how much someone values privacy in their life.
There are people who do not allow anyone to peek into their private life, and there are those who live their private life without any problems in front of the cameras in various reality shows.
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I value maximum privacy, and that definitely includes using the onion version, because regardless of the trust you have in the mixer, past cases have shown that if the authorities seize them, they find a lot more than what they should find. Maybe you are not doing anything illegal and you have no problem with the mixer or someone else knowing from which IP address the Bitcoin came, but if you are already mixing BTC, why not do it completely privately?
I only use BTC Mixers for experimental purposes so I do not place too high demands on anonymity, I believe that many users will have a greater need for anonymity and they will take advantage of all available tools such as MixTum onion link.
MixTum has onion link, so it better work to serve users' needs ;D
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I only use BTC Mixers for experimental purposes so I do not place too high demands on anonymity, I believe that many users will have a greater need for anonymity and they will take advantage of all available tools such as MixTum onion link.
MixTum has onion link, so it better work to serve users' needs ;D
You'd be surprised how much people pay attention to every detail when it comes to privacy. I would say that mixer users are definitely very privacy-oriented.
Even a large number of forum users use the TOR browser as their primary browser, I believe that they will avoid going to the clearnet just to mix coins.
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You'd be surprised how much people pay attention to every detail when it comes to privacy. I would say that mixer users are definitely very privacy-oriented.
Even a large number of forum users use the TOR browser as their primary browser, I believe that they will avoid going to the clearnet just to mix coins.
Yeah, I agree. Professional crypto users will optimize every feature to protect their privacy, and I respect their wise decision. Tor is a good option, but it's often too slow for my comfort, so I choose to use VPN for my work.
Let's wait for the return of MixTum onion link or an official announcement from MixTum team about this problem.
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Even a large number of forum users use the TOR browser as their primary browser, I believe that they will avoid going to the clearnet just to mix coins.
I may be wrong, but I will repeat that according to the experiences from the BTT forum, not very many members use Tor - and on this forum I did not find that Tor was mentioned in any context, except for some problems with signatures that did not/still do not show up correctly. What is the "problem" with Tor is the speed of page loading, given that the traffic is redirected through several servers. Many people don't like that, so if they are already looking for privacy, they prefer to use a VPN.
The level of protection on Tor and VPN is of course far in favor of the former, but one should be honest and say that neither of them ensures absolute anonymity and that it is possible to reveal the real IP address if someone really wants to, regardless of what someone uses.
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I may be wrong, but I will repeat that according to the experiences from the BTT forum, not very many members use Tor - and on this forum I did not find that Tor was mentioned in any context, except for some problems with signatures that did not/still do not show up correctly. What is the "problem" with Tor is the speed of page loading, given that the traffic is redirected through several servers. Many people don't like that, so if they are already looking for privacy, they prefer to use a VPN.
The level of protection on Tor and VPN is of course far in favor of the former, but one should be honest and say that neither of them ensures absolute anonymity and that it is possible to reveal the real IP address if someone really wants to, regardless of what someone uses.
This is what happened to me, I don't think I have the patience to wait for websites to download when using Tor, Tor may be very good at anonymity but it cannot serve me completely work effectively.
My job normally doesn't require an extremely high level of anonymity, I have no problem with my identity when searching on Google or reading the news and sending emails, the VPN features are enough for me.
Of course, for users who want maximum anonymity when Mixing BTC, they can choose Tor, and they also don't Mix BTC every 10 minutes ^^
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Of course, for users who want maximum anonymity when Mixing BTC, they can choose Tor, and they also don't Mix BTC every 10 minutes ^^
I may be wrong, but it seems like the mixer itself provides a fairly high degree of anonymity. If we are talking about coins being mixed. The usage of anonymous browsers aims to hide the very fact that the user had the intention to use the mixer. But it doesn’t add anonymity to the mixing process itself, I think.
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I may be wrong, but it seems like the mixer itself provides a fairly high degree of anonymity. If we are talking about coins being mixed. The usage of anonymous browsers aims to hide the very fact that the user had the intention to use the mixer. But it doesn’t add anonymity to the mixing process itself, I think.
The browser can know your IP, someone who knows your IP can almost locate you very precisely. So, IP + location + Bitcoin address, where do you see privacy here?
If the process is repeated two or more times, the precision is better and the possibility of accidentally is very small.
I do not claim that this necessarily always happens, but some people want guaranteed privacy and trying to avoid this part of the risk.
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The browser can know your IP, someone who knows your IP can almost locate you very precisely. So, IP + location + Bitcoin address, where do you see privacy here?
If the process is repeated two or more times, the precision is better and the possibility of accidentally is very small.
I do not claim that this necessarily always happens, but some people want guaranteed privacy and trying to avoid this part of the risk.
Everyone has different risk appetites for profit and anonymity. Blockchain - Mixer - VPN - Tor are all individual choices, and I don't think any one option is perfect or suitable for all users.
As a casual user with the purpose of experiencing, I am satisfied with MixTum Clearnet and VPN. Users with higher anonymity demand can wait for the return of MixTum onion link :)
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Users with higher anonymity demand can wait for the return of MixTum onion link :)
The question is whether the onion version will return at all, and if it is not already available, it would be good if MixTum somehow informs its clients what it is actually about. What should also be emphasized is that it is almost impossible to access their clearnet page with Tor, given that they use Cloudflare, whose captcha only repeats itself in a loop.
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The question is whether the onion version will return at all, and if it is not already available, it would be good if MixTum somehow informs its clients what it is actually about. What should also be emphasized is that it is almost impossible to access their clearnet page with Tor, given that they use Cloudflare, whose captcha only repeats itself in a loop.
As far as I remember, when accessing the clearnet site via TOR, there was an automatic redirection to the onion site. The problem may be caused by the unavailability of the TOR site.
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As far as I remember, when accessing the clearnet site via TOR, there was an automatic redirection to the onion site. The problem may be caused by the unavailability of the TOR site.
It depends, you can set Tor to redirect you to a site's .onion when it's available, but you have to choose this setting, because to my knowledge it's not active as standard.
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It depends, you can set Tor to redirect you to a site's .onion when it's available, but you have to choose this setting, because to my knowledge it's not active as standard.
It is not about what is possible, but what are the facts.
Lucius reported problems accessing the Mixtum clearnet using TOR, I think there was a redirect if you visit clearnet mixtum.io from the TOR browser, which takes you to the onion mixtum site. It has nothing to do with active standards.
You can see how it works on the Yomix mixer.
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The question is whether the onion version will return at all, and if it is not already available, it would be good if MixTum somehow informs its clients what it is actually about. What should also be emphasized is that it is almost impossible to access their clearnet page with Tor, given that they use Cloudflare, whose captcha only repeats itself in a loop.
Why is nobody addressing this issue of tor link missing?
Where is someone from Mixtum team, and where is campaign manager to finally explain this?
This is serious thing for everyone who wants to use any bitcoin mixer, not counting people who only comment because they are part of signature campaign.
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The question is whether the onion version will return at all, and if it is not already available, it would be good if MixTum somehow informs its clients what it is actually about. What should also be emphasized is that it is almost impossible to access their clearnet page with Tor, given that they use Cloudflare, whose captcha only repeats itself in a loop.
Well, we have quite a few questions here, and they won't stop until MixTum can provide more information to users and the community about the status of the Mixtum onion link. Although I'm not a fan of Tor's onion link, I'm also interested and want to see MixTum still being developed well by a full-time team to provide the best services for the needs of users ::)
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It depends, you can set Tor to redirect you to a site's .onion when it's available, but you have to choose this setting, because to my knowledge it's not active as standard.
It is not about what is possible, but what are the facts.
Lucius reported problems accessing the Mixtum clearnet using TOR, I think there was a redirect if you visit clearnet mixtum.io from the TOR browser, which takes you to the onion mixtum site. It has nothing to do with active standards.
You can see how it works on the Yomix mixer.
The thing is that the redirect doesn't actually happen, the clearnet address is shown in the address bar all the time, and as far as I remember from the past, visiting the clearnet version with Tor did not automatically redirect to the onion version.
As I wrote before, it seems that MixTum for some reason does not want mixing to take place via Tor - and it is no secret that using that browser has its own risks, considering that even bad people can participate in "providing anonymity" with bad intentions.
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As I wrote before, it seems that MixTum for some reason does not want mixing to take place via Tor - and it is no secret that using that browser has its own risks, considering that even bad people can participate in "providing anonymity" with bad intentions.
I don't think this is part of MixTum's development plan. MixTum has supported onion links for users who have high anonymity requirements, meaning that this feature is useful and valuable in MixTum's strategy. We also haven't had any announcements/updates from the MixTum team about the termination of the onion link service. I think speculation is pointless, we should wait for the announcement from MixTum team.
In the meantime, MixTum users are forced to be satisfied with Clearnet site ::)
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Is MixTum currently under DDoS attack?
From my side it is offline :(
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/27/Vw9Fz.png)
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Is MixTum currently under DDoS attack?
From my side it is offline :(
It's not just you, it seems to be offline for everyone. >:(
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mixtum.io
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/27/Vwxxw.png)
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(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/28/VAgwl.jpeg)
The site is still down, I hope it's nothing too serious.
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Is MixTum currently under DDoS attack?
From my side it is offline :(
I don't think it's ddos since mixtum uses cloudflare where the attack can be reduced and corrected for a short of time. I think this is more like technicalities on its host's side just like the other day where lasts several days. Of course, this is just assumptions, i hope I'm not wrong, else it's really a ddos.
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I don't think it's ddos since mixtum uses cloudflare where the attack can be reduced and corrected for a short of time. I think this is more like technicalities on its host's side just like the other day where lasts several days. Of course, this is just assumptions, i hope I'm not wrong, else it's really a ddos.
Cloudflare is not a guarantee that the site will not be exposed to a DDoS attack and that it will be completely immune to it. Not to start a conspiracy theory from whom the attack can come (even from Cloudflare), but hackers or whoever deals with it will always look for a new loophole in the system.
hint: Ask bitmover whether CF is sufficient protection against DDoS attacks.
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Mixtum website is down for me also, and their onion link was not working for a while already :P
Something strange is happening with DDOS attacks today, bitcointalk forum is working really slow and I can't even use it to post anything now.
It would be nice to hear from official team what the heck is going on.
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Cloudflare is not a guarantee that the site will not be exposed to a DDoS attack and that it will be completely immune to it. Not to start a conspiracy theory from whom the attack can come (even from Cloudflare), but hackers or whoever deals with it will always look for a new loophole in the system.
hint: Ask bitmover whether CF is sufficient protection against DDoS attacks.
Yes, of course, no website is immune to ddos. Ddos protection does not mean the site cannot be attacked too. That's why CF run its service for that purpose, depends on the plan though. It only helps to reduced the attack just like i said and do what else you need to do while and after the attack.
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Cloudflare is not a guarantee that the site will not be exposed to a DDoS attack and that it will be completely immune to it. Not to start a conspiracy theory from whom the attack can come (even from Cloudflare), but hackers or whoever deals with it will always look for a new loophole in the system.
hint: Ask bitmover whether CF is sufficient protection against DDoS attacks.
Yes, of course, no website is immune to ddos. Ddos protection does not mean the site cannot be attacked too. That's why CF run its service for that purpose, depends on the plan though. It only helps to reduced the attack just like i said and do what else you need to do while and after the attack.
My cloudflare was set with the lower security possible.
I was attacked and the website was down for some hours. I switched to the more aggressive configuration while under attack, and then everything was OK...
But I reduced security now, as it broke some bots and other configs
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Is MixTum currently under DDoS attack?
From my side it is offline :(
It's not just you, it seems to be offline for everyone. >:(
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mixtum.io
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/27/Vwxxw.png)
I think it would be helpful if there was a single site that showed the statuses of all mixers at the same time, don't you think?
And what about the Tor mirror? Is that working or is it down as well? (currently I can't open Tor Browser to check, which is why I asked.)
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I think it would be helpful if there was a single site that showed the statuses of all mixers at the same time, don't you think?
I recently tried to do something like that, but almost all mixers have strong bot protection, so my check did not always give the correct result. Most of the mixers were offline after such a check. And it's too much work for manual checking.
It is even more difficult with onion pages.
And what about the Tor mirror? Is that working or is it down as well? (currently I can't open Tor Browser to check, which is why I asked.)
The Mixtum Tor site has been offline for a long time. I don't think it has anything to do with the current problem
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The Mixtum Tor site has been offline for a long time. I don't think it has anything to do with the current problem
I hope so, so even though we are completely in the dark regarding official information, I hope that nothing serious is happening and that it is only about technical problems that will be solved quickly.
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I think it would be helpful if there was a single site that showed the statuses of all mixers at the same time, don't you think?
This is a good idea.
Maybe someone can fetch data for all mixers from downforeveryoneorjustme or other similar websites, and put them all in one place.
I am ready to listen if there are some better ways of doing this directly without use of other websites.
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Right now, I am still temporarily unable to access MixTum Clearnet site.
I really hope that everything is fine and there is no serious problem with MixTum. MixTum team should focus on solving this problem and will soon have an update for the community and users to let us know what is happening.
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https://mixtum.io/ still does not work (online and Tor), https://jambler.io/ works slowly and some features do not work, but some jambler.io partners work well, so I think the problem is related to mixtum only.
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I think it would be helpful if there was a single site that showed the statuses of all mixers at the same time, don't you think?
I recently tried to do something like that, but almost all mixers have strong bot protection, so my check did not always give the correct result. Most of the mixers were offline after such a check. And it's too much work for manual checking.
It is even more difficult with onion pages.
I created an API with site status checker to image, and unfortunately, yes, there are sites that has strong bot protection, those who uses cloudflare with strong protection configuration, like webmixer and unijoin (i guess). About the TOR mirrors, unfortunately, it will be hard to have them, unless there onion sites tracker with api which i never check yet.
(https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://tumbler.io&type=img)
https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://tumbler.io&type=img
(https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://mixtum.io&type=img)
https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://mixtum.io&type=img
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I created an API with site status checker to image, and unfortunately, yes, there are sites that has strong bot protection, those who uses cloudflare with strong protection configuration, like webmixer and unijoin (i guess). About the TOR mirrors, unfortunately, it will be hard to have them, unless there onion sites tracker with api which i never check yet.
There must be some other way to track if those websites are online or not.
I am getting error PHP Error was encountered when I click on Tools tab on pxzone.online website.
It's probably work in progress but I am reporting it here just in case you didn't notice it.
(https://i.ibb.co/qyzJqSY/imgf165a6d5baf84ad98859b1f08ce55442.jpg)
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I am getting error PHP Error was encountered when I click on Tools tab on pxzone.online website.
It's probably work in progress but I am reporting it here just in case you didn't notice it.
Ah yeah, it's just temporary and I can't do anything to that as my resources is limited. It will be fixed some time later by it's own, this happen when there is a huge traffic on the site and it breaks lmao. Thanks for the heads up.
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mixtum is working, I can access https://mixtum.io/ (https://mixtum.io/) and the Tor version is working.[/size]
https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://mixtum.io&type=img
There is an error here
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mixtum is working, I can access https://mixtum.io/ (https://mixtum.io/) and the Tor version is working.[/size]
https://pxzone.online/tool/website-status?site=https://mixtum.io&type=img
There is an error here
You are right, looks like Mixtum uses strong configuration now that's why it shows the site is still down. I hope the downtime will be minimal or will be prevented now. And tor site is now working too, i just checked it now, which is a great news.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jVFJtX/753185.png) (https://ibb.co/qMFW15n)
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Mixtum website is back online for me.
I didn't try mixing so I can't confirm if everything is operational, but it opens all the pages just fine.
Ah yeah, it's just temporary and I can't do anything to that as my resources is limited. It will be fixed some time later by it's own, this happen when there is a huge traffic on the site and it breaks lmao. Thanks for the heads up.
Try reducing time how often you check on website, 30 minutes or 1 hour is enough I think.
Maybe you can make dedicated page for all mixers that can be monitored if website is available or not.
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You are right, looks like Mixtum uses strong configuration now that's why it shows the site is still down. I hope the downtime will be minimal or will be prevented now. And tor site is now working too, i just checked it now, which is a great news.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jVFJtX/753185.png) (https://ibb.co/qMFW15n)
It is great that the MixTum website is back up and running. I can check Clearnet, it is accessed quickly and works as well as before. Thank MixTum team for taking action and solving this problem.
I do not use Tor onion link, honestly I can't wait for onion link loading ::) This is not really important to me because VPN + Clearnet is enough for all my needs ^^
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I do not use Tor onion link, honestly I can't wait for onion link loading ::) This is not really important to me because VPN + Clearnet is enough for all my needs ^^
The onion version of the page loads quite quickly if we take into account how "complicated" Tor is compared to VPN, so although this speed also depends on the nodes through which the traffic is redirected, in my case it is about 15 seconds on average. However, in the era of super fast internet where everyone expects the page to load in 1-2 seconds, those 15 seconds (or more) can really seem like an eternity :)
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What was the problem with the website in the first place?
I know that speculation is not helpful at this point but it could've been a backend error or something else that was caused by a bug.
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What was the problem with the website in the first place?
I know that speculation is not helpful at this point but it could've been a backend error or something else that was caused by a bug.
About a month ago, Jambler did a slightly bigger upgrade (Mixtum is a Jambler partner). Somehow, during that period, certain problems appeared, that is, the occasional unavailability of the Mixtum site.
Each upgrade often brings some new bugs, I think that was the cause of the problem. But that can also be considered as my speculation.
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I just mixed coins, and I want to show you guys what a premium mixer means. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/nmLpXpc/image.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/XbXt4Kw/image.png)
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I just mixed coins, and I want to show you guys what a premium mixer means. :)
Super clean ;D
Is this after using Mixtum mixer, and what service you used to receive this risk report?
That does not mean that all coins will have the same score, but I never had big trust in services offering this risk scores.
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I just mixed coins, and I want to show you guys what a premium mixer means. :)
Super clean ;D
Is this after using Mixtum mixer, and what service you used to receive this risk report?
That does not mean that all coins will have the same score, but I never had big trust in services offering this risk scores.
I think the tool is from amlbot.com as per the screenshot?
I put the address showed on icopress's screenshot and checked the score with Crystal. It gives a perfect score too (which is not common as even casino are considered as not green for example).
It seems that coins were supplied by a regulated CEX. Jambler worked as promised on this one.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/04/VLDGd.png)
Indeed, it is very good. I will check with UniJoin and some other next time I will mix coins, curious to do the comparison.
(but you're right, as far as I know most of risk scores tools are not 100% efficient and even Chainalysis are saying it on their blog lol)
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(but you're right, as far as I know most of risk scores tools are not 100% efficient and even Chainalysis are saying it on their blog lol)
If the service you are sending coins to has a sufficient score from Chainanalysis or Amlbot, then you have nothing to worry about. Most services that insist on clean Bitcoins use the same or similar method.
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I put the address showed on icopress's screenshot and checked the score with Crystal. It gives a perfect score too (which is not common as even casino are considered as not green for example).
It seems that coins were supplied by a regulated CEX. Jambler worked as promised on this one.
The results are really good, MixTum users know that their BTC received from MixTum's service is completely clean and will not face any legal risks in the future. Normally, I only mix BTC when I need anonymity, not necessarily legal security, but for users who are concerned about the cleanliness of BTC after mixing, MixTum can guarantee this.
In the past, a few CEXs have frozen users' BTC when they found it was linked to a BTC mixing service, but with this result, MixTum users can rest assured!
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The results are really good, MixTum users know that their BTC received from MixTum's service is completely clean and will not face any legal risks in the future. Normally, I only mix BTC when I need anonymity, not necessarily legal security, but for users who are concerned about the cleanliness of BTC after mixing, MixTum can guarantee this.
In the past, a few CEXs have frozen users' BTC when they found it was linked to a BTC mixing service, but with this result, MixTum users can rest assured!
It is highly not recommended to use Bitcoin addresses of custodial services (campaign). Mixtum clients are really safe, but I wouldn’t say the same about the participants campaign.
I am a manager and process weekly payments for casino campaigns, mixers, exchange and all these funds are mixed and stored in a cold wallet.
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In the past, a few CEXs have frozen users' BTC when they found it was linked to a BTC mixing service, but with this result, MixTum users can rest assured!
I personally have never had any problems with BTC that came from mixers when it comes to signature campaigns, nor with BTC that I mix on mixers. I must mention that these were transactions that went to CEXs (some people still use custodial services as wallets), and this means that all these centralized services may pay much more attention to large amounts, while a few tens or hundreds of $ generally pass under their radar.
Still, it's good to see that MixTum has such high standards when it comes to coins that are obtained during mixing, which means that the fee for their service is well worth it.
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I personally have never had any problems with BTC that came from mixers when it comes to signature campaigns, nor with BTC that I mix on mixers. I must mention that these were transactions that went to CEXs (some people still use custodial services as wallets), and this means that all these centralized services may pay much more attention to large amounts, while a few tens or hundreds of $ generally pass under their radar.
Still, it's good to see that MixTum has such high standards when it comes to coins that are obtained during mixing, which means that the fee for their service is well worth it.
We should be careful. Operating like this is still relatively risky, because you could very well go under the radar for a while, and at the first AML/CTF flag a new deposit raises, you could find yourself having to justify everything, even past transactions that hadn't been blocked.
Some people have had this problem on the other forum with campaign signature funds ; all goes well until the day when the person sourcing the funds ends up on a list from a three-letter agency.. :D
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Maybe you misunderstood me, I personally don't use CEXs, but some people whose services I used used them as their wallets, and for years I sent coins to their CEXs addresses and they never had a problem because of it. I hope I won't sound like a promoter of conspiracy theories, but the three-letter agencies are interested in all those who deal with cryptocurrencies, and judging by the documents that were published thanks to the most famous American whistleblower, they have been doing it for more than 10 years.
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Maybe you misunderstood me, I personally don't use CEXs, but some people whose services I used used them as their wallets, and for years I sent coins to their CEXs addresses and they never had a problem because of it. I hope I won't sound like a promoter of conspiracy theories, but the three-letter agencies are interested in all those who deal with cryptocurrencies, and judging by the documents that were published thanks to the most famous American whistleblower, they have been doing it for more than 10 years.
I use CEXs and have transferred BTC that has been through mixers to accounts on CEXs, because after all, we need to sell BTC for fiat to pay for real-world bills. Selling BTC through P2P is not a solution that I use regularly. For now, everything is fine, and I am not in the US so I am not too worried about problems with US law enforcement agencies.
The quality of Mixtum is quite good and I have not had any problems with the cleanliness of BTC from Mixtum. This can be seen as a confirmation even though I do not use any evaluation tools ^^
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helloooo there
just a info about your amazing service
telegram bot seems broken - is only a information because probably you not noticed about it but because i love telegram bot i try to test and not work
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/08/VOolf.png)
just check it and fix if you can :) see you have a nice day
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telegram bot seems broken - is only a information because probably you not noticed about it but because i love telegram bot i try to test and not work
The Mixtum telegram bot has been down for some time. The last time I used it was mid-March. In the meantime, there was a maintenance period, so I think that this thing with the TG bot is also part of the upgrade process.
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telegram bot seems broken - is only a information because probably you not noticed about it but because i love telegram bot i try to test and not work
so I think that this thing with the TG bot is also part of the upgrade process.
Probably it's because of the strong bot protection of mixtum on its cloudflare configuration that it cannot receive any response from its telegram webhook.
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ah I understand, since I was watching the service so I went and did some tests and clicked around
since I like telegram bots I went there to try it to say let's see how it goes (for example thormixer has a wonderful bot from this point of view) and since it didn't work I decided to report it
ty all
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Now everything works.
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Now everything works.
It is good to know that the suggestions in this thread are being actively followed. :)
Speaking of which, here is another suggestion for correction on the mixtum site. On page https://mixtum.io/?reviews several links are more harmful than useful for mixtum.
For example
1. Cryptalker.com - 10 Most Popular Bitcoin Tumbler (Mixer) Services (Article) quite out of date and incomplete review
2. DeepWebSitesLinks.com - Top 10 Bitcoin Tumbler Services 2019 (Article) This page and website are offline, dead link
6. CryptoNinjas.net - Best Bitcoin Tumblers in 2020 (Article) out of date, still listed some of the mixers that have been closed
7. Scramblerz.com - 11 Best Bitcoin Mixer (Tumbler) Services 2020 (Article) out of date, still listed some of the mixers that have been closed
8. Bitcoin2Litecoin.com - 11 Best Bitcoin Mixing Services (Article) browser report phishing link
Those who offer outdated information may not be so problematic, but I think it is not in the interest of mixtum to be linked to phishing sites.
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Speaking of which, here is another suggestion for correction on the mixtum site. [...]
This has also been updated. ;)
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This has also been updated. ;)
Fast reaction. :)
Hmm, this just adds salt to what I suspected (from our conversation) ;)
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Fast reaction. :)
Hmm, this just adds salt to what I suspected (from our conversation) ;)
Unfortunately not (although I would like to be part of such a big project).
It’s just that the main developer was online, that’s all.
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It’s just that the main developer was online, that’s all.
It is great that the MixTum team is following the feedback of the community on AltcoinsTalks and taking action right away to improve things on the website! I hope MixTum will not have any more problems with the website or Telegram bot in the future.
Speaking of which, here is another suggestion for correction on the mixtum site. On page https://mixtum.io/?reviews several links are more harmful than useful for mixtum.
For example
1. Cryptalker.com - 10 Most Popular Bitcoin Tumbler (Mixer) Services (Article) quite out of date and incomplete review
2. DeepWebSitesLinks.com - Top 10 Bitcoin Tumbler Services 2019 (Article) This page and website are offline, dead link
6. CryptoNinjas.net - Best Bitcoin Tumblers in 2020 (Article) out of date, still listed some of the mixers that have been closed
7. Scramblerz.com - 11 Best Bitcoin Mixer (Tumbler) Services 2020 (Article) out of date, still listed some of the mixers that have been closed
8. Bitcoin2Litecoin.com - 11 Best Bitcoin Mixing Services (Article) browser report phishing link
Those who offer outdated information may not be so problematic, but I think it is not in the interest of mixtum to be linked to phishing sites.
You always find interesting things on the Mixers website, it seems that you are a regular user of these services and always ask for the best for Mixers and users.
To be honest, I have used MixTum without ever reading these Reviews ^^
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Now everything works.
I confirm, it works again
excellent work and above all very quick to fix! congratulations to everyone
I really like Telegram bots, let's say it's the only place where you have the freedom to build bots and make them do what you want
on WA for example it's not possible if you're not a business... never mind
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Can anyone tell me how is Mixtum mixer doing when compared with Unijoin mixer, and are there any important advantages?
I think that Unijoin has lower mixing fees and minimum withdrawable bitcoin is 0.003 BTC, that is less than Mixtum.
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Can anyone tell me how is Mixtum mixer doing when compared with Unijoin mixer, and are there any important advantages?
I think that Unijoin has lower mixing fees and minimum withdrawable bitcoin is 0.003 BTC, that is less than Mixtum.
The difference is in the way of mixing the coins. In short:
Mixtum sends coins that come from exchanges through the Jambler network of investors. This method offers a fairly high degree of privacy and "clean" coins.
Unijoin uses the coinjoin method, which is good, especially for anonymity, but cannot guarantee a high level of "clean" coins.
About fees, there are no minimum withdrawable amounts, but a minimum deposit that will be recognized by the service. So, for example, the minimum deposit on Mixtum is 0.003 BTC, while the minimum deposit on Unijoin is 0.001 BTC
I have put all the most important information about each mixer in this thread, it is much easier to review and compare.
LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅ (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.0)
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Can anyone tell me how is Mixtum mixer doing when compared with Unijoin mixer, and are there any important advantages?
I think that Unijoin has lower mixing fees and minimum withdrawable bitcoin is 0.003 BTC, that is less than Mixtum.
The difference is in the way of mixing the coins. In short:
Mixtum sends coins that come from exchanges through the Jambler network of investors. This method offers a fairly high degree of privacy and "clean" coins.
Unijoin uses the coinjoin method, which is good, especially for anonymity, but cannot guarantee a high level of "clean" coins.
About fees, there are no minimum withdrawable amounts, but a minimum deposit that will be recognized by the service. So, for example, the minimum deposit on Mixtum is 0.003 BTC, while the minimum deposit on Unijoin is 0.001 BTC
I have put all the most important information about each mixer in this thread, it is much easier to review and compare.
LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅ (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.0)
coinjoin is a bit random from this point of view
you could get a bad tx with suspicious or stolen funds and in that case what do you say?
I used coinjoin, why did you use coinjoin?
I think it has its constant danger
It's true that it can also happen with Jambler but in my opinion the % of it happening is lower
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coinjoin is a bit random from this point of view
you could get a bad tx with suspicious or stolen funds and in that case what do you say?
I used coinjoin, why did you use coinjoin?
I think it has its constant danger
It's true that it can also happen with Jambler but in my opinion the % of it happening is lower
I prefer to use MixTum because I don't want to have any problems with any "dirty" BTC. Jambler can guarantee this and give me peace of mind when moving my BTC to CEX for future trading. Jambler sets itself apart by ensuring users receive "clean" coins: Upon entering the platform, all BTC goes through a rigorous blockchain check. This verification process guarantees the legitimacy of BTC. Additionally, Jambler sources BTC directly from miners and CEX traders. We can can be confident in using MixTum's services ;D
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I prefer to use MixTum because I don't want to have any problems with any "dirty" BTC.
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Dirty or tainted BTC is something invented by those who have a big problem with the fact that they have no control over it. For me, this is not only stupid, but also potentially dangerous in the long term, considering that each of us has at least part of the coins that were once used in some transaction that had elements of criminal activity.
When we think about it, does anyone know where all the bills or coins we have in our wallets were? Some may have been used to sell drugs, some to smuggle people or weapons, and yet no one will come and say that these bills are dirty and should be confiscated.
Mixers should therefore primarily serve the purpose of privacy protection, and not some kind of mixing between dirty and clean coins.
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Dirty or tainted BTC is something invented by those who have a big problem with the fact that they have no control over it. For me, this is not only stupid, but also potentially dangerous in the long term, considering that each of us has at least part of the coins that were once used in some transaction that had elements of criminal activity.
When we think about it, does anyone know where all the bills or coins we have in our wallets were? Some may have been used to sell drugs, some to smuggle people or weapons, and yet no one will come and say that these bills are dirty and should be confiscated.
Mixers should therefore primarily serve the purpose of privacy protection, and not some kind of mixing between dirty and clean coins.
While we may not care about the cleanliness of BTC, governments and many exchanges may be concerned and evaluate each satoshi deposited on CEXs. To ensure that BTC and crypto are not abused by criminals, CEXs are also cooperating with governments to detect behavior, freeze and provide information related to criminals.
I have no problem with identity, but I store my crypto assets on CEXs and I'm afraid that my account will be frozen if some of my satoshi come from a "dirty" source. I use MixTum to ensure that the BTC I send to CEXs is always rated as clean as possible ;D
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I have no problem with identity, but I store my crypto assets on CEXs and I'm afraid that my account will be frozen if some of my satoshi come from a "dirty" source. I use MixTum to ensure that the BTC I send to CEXs is always rated as clean as possible ;D
I can only assume that you have your own reasons for such a storage method, because CEXs should not be wallets, and the old saying goes "not your keys, not your coins". I only believe in airgapped wallets and safely saved backups, everything else is a risk I don't want to accept.
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I can only assume that you have your own reasons for such a storage method, because CEXs should not be wallets, and the old saying goes "not your keys, not your coins". I only believe in airgapped wallets and safely saved backups, everything else is a risk I don't want to accept.
Yeah, I understand it. But I store a portion of my crypto assets on CEXs, and I need to use CEXs to sell USDT for fiat currency and pay for real-life bills. OTC is also an option, but they usually don't trade assets under $100, which is not suitable for me and has higher risks than P2P on CEXs. This makes me more concerned about the cleanliness of the crypto I send to my CEX accounts. For now, with BTC, I have found a solution to my needs at MixTum ^^
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Mixtum sends coins that come from exchanges through the Jambler network of investors. This method offers a fairly high degree of privacy and "clean" coins.
Unijoin uses the coinjoin method, which is good, especially for anonymity, but cannot guarantee a high level of "clean" coins.
Are you claiming there is actual guarantee for this when using Mixtum, and there is no such thing for Unijon?
I never had problems with any coins that came from Unijon service and I use it for privacy, not to make my coins any cleaner.
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Are you claiming there is actual guarantee for this when using Mixtum, and there is no such thing for Unijon?
I never had problems with any coins that came from Unijon service and I use it for privacy, not to make my coins any cleaner.
I will repeat with a bit more details.
Mixtum as a partner receives coins from Jambler. Jambler has strict control of Bitcoins that are mixed and come from investors, if they do not meet the expected "cleanliness" level, they are returned to the investor. So there is a serious analysis before the coins are sent to their mixing system.
Unijoin (like most other non-Jambler mixers) does not have this kind of control over every coin that comes into the network.
That's the difference in theory. To prove this theory, at least 30 transactions should be done on each mixer and then compare the analyses.
As with other things, no one can guarantee anything, but a better understanding of the process will definitely help.
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Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.
It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government ::)
This makes you think who the real criminals are.
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Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.
It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government ::)
This makes you think who the real criminals are.
governments are the criminals, so obvious, they are the best armed criminals and accepted by everyone as protectors, basically
those who sell their freedom for a modicum of security deserve neither freedom nor security, because this is what we do today
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Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.
I don't like these terms either.
Sometimes I just want to break the link between the coins I have and my online identity.
For example, I want to send a coin to a cex or to someone who I don't want them to know I am bitmover and I got those coins in this forum.
There is no "dirty" to clean up. I just want other coins.
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Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.
It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government ::)
This makes you think who the real criminals are.
"Dirty" coins are defined as coins that are associated with illegal activities according to the law. When they are confiscated by the government, they are stored by the government, are the property of the state, and they will naturally become legal. Therefore, they can be considered clean when sold on the OTC without any charges, the proceeds will be used for good purposes such as paying salaries for the administrative apparatus or building the country, or at least they want us to believe that.
In any case, MixTum does not serve governments because the maximum amount per Mix is only 50 BTC 8)
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Guys, let's not get hung up on the terms, in the end they are a way to understand what we're talking about
I understand very well that from a philosophical and theoretical point of view you don't like them but they are useful for us to understand more simply
one of the bullshit things we've seen is raging against the terms "master" and "slave" in IT, I don't want it to be repeated here too
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Guys, let's not get hung up on the terms, in the end they are a way to understand what we're talking about
I understand very well that from a philosophical and theoretical point of view you don't like them but they are useful for us to understand more simply
one of the bullshit things we've seen is raging against the terms "master" and "slave" in IT, I don't want it to be repeated here too
Yeah, I agree. Ultimately, each user has their own purpose for using MixTum: security and anonymity.
From my experience so far, I know that MixTum ensures security because it provides BTC without any legal hassles. As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity. I only use MixTum Clearnet and have never touched Tor onion link.
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As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity.
This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
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As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity. I only use MixTum Clearnet and have never touched Tor onion link.
There are many reasons for anonymity, even if it is to hide the information from the first neighbour that you have xx Bitcoin stored only behind one private key.
After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
This sounds like a shilling and there is no need for it. There are many other tools and ways to increase the level of anonymity, it is a bit pretentious to say that it is only possible with these two services.
Mixtum or other similar active services are certainly one of the options, I would say one of the simpler options because they do not require too much technical knowledge from their users.
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This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
In fact, I have been using CEX with full KYC without any problems. I think this will become more common in the future as the crypto market develops, similar to investing on stock exchanges.
My data is stored by CEX and I believe that someone other than CEX members or the police may be able to access it. At the same time, I am not afraid that someone will know how many tokens I have, even if they are only worth a few hundred or a few thousand $. My only concern is that I could be involved in "dirty" money: BTC from hacks or data breaches and terrorist financing. I use MixTum and a few other Mixers only to ensure the security of my CEX account against this risk.
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This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
In fact, I have been using CEX with full KYC without any problems. I think this will become more common in the future as the crypto market develops, similar to investing on stock exchanges.
My data is stored by CEX and I believe that someone other than CEX members or the police may be able to access it. At the same time, I am not afraid that someone will know how many tokens I have, even if they are only worth a few hundred or a few thousand $. My only concern is that I could be involved in "dirty" money: BTC from hacks or data breaches and terrorist financing. I use MixTum and a few other Mixers only to ensure the security of my CEX account against this risk.
It really depends on where you live and the level of government interference in the personal lives of the population. In some countries, CEX is not a problem, although even there many people prefer to disclose as little information about themselves to government agencies as possible. But in those countries where the state apparatus interferes in absolutely all private spheres of life, anonymity becomes a necessary measure.
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This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
In fact, I have been using CEX with full KYC without any problems. I think this will become more common in the future as the crypto market develops, similar to investing on stock exchanges.
My data is stored by CEX and I believe that someone other than CEX members or the police may be able to access it. At the same time, I am not afraid that someone will know how many tokens I have, even if they are only worth a few hundred or a few thousand $. My only concern is that I could be involved in "dirty" money: BTC from hacks or data breaches and terrorist financing. I use MixTum and a few other Mixers only to ensure the security of my CEX account against this risk.
Actually I don't see anything wrong using CEX if one has a few hundreds but not thousands of dollars. There is no guarantee that a particular cex is not going to end up the same way with others that are not in existence again. If we take a look at the history of early exchanges that have existed since 2010 to 2020, we could conclude that majority are not in existence due to one problem that had led to their closure.
We need to be careful about our funds being left on exchanges especially huge funds because no one knows what the next CEX would after FTX. Holding funds in individual wallet is the best with owner of seed phrase.
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From my experience so far, I know that MixTum ensures security because it provides BTC without any legal hassles. As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity. I only use MixTum Clearnet and have never touched Tor onion link.
Since most mixers are using Cloudflare or some other CDN, it is very dangerous for your privacy to mix coins over the clearnet when such a CDN is used. See this topic for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247838.msg54414843#msg54414843
This is why you should always use the TOR hidden service when mixing if they have one. That one is most likely not using CDNs at all, so they don't have the same problem as the clearnet sites.
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This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
In fact, I have been using CEX with full KYC without any problems. I think this will become more common in the future as the crypto market develops, similar to investing on stock exchanges.
There's no doubt that the bigger the cryptocurrency market becomes the more the government introduces more KYC restriction rules and regulations which will give people no other choice than to use CEX mostly and if I can remember the exact topic was once raised during the early stage of BTC when Satoshi was discussing it with the community devs but with the service provided by MixTum we can always have something to use for privacy purpose.
You make mention that you're using CEX without a problem, but you fail to understand most CEXs dont always have problems at the early stage until they are among the top CEXs which is when their key dev, staff, and CEO will be the target of bad actors and the government. You can take the issues of FTX, CZ, Bitfinex, and others.
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Since most mixers are using Cloudflare or some other CDN, it is very dangerous for your privacy to mix coins over the clearnet when such a CDN is used. See this topic for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247838.msg54414843#msg54414843
This is why you should always use the TOR hidden service when mixing if they have one. That one is most likely not using CDNs at all, so they don't have the same problem as the clearnet sites.
There's no doubt that Tor is an extra level of privacy, but it's far from someone who should feel completely anonymous using it. If "they" want to find you, not even Tor helps, but you surely know all that. However, for ordinary people who do not deal with any bad things but just want privacy, I would definitely recommend to try Tor - after all, it is just a browser that does not require any special knowledge to use.
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There's no doubt that Tor is an extra level of privacy, but it's far from someone who should feel completely anonymous using it. If "they" want to find you, not even Tor helps, but you surely know all that. However, for ordinary people who do not deal with any bad things but just want privacy, I would definitely recommend to try Tor - after all, it is just a browser that does not require any special knowledge to use.
It's not so much about actors exfiltrating data from the user's device than it is about the actors exfiltrating the data from some CDN's cache dump, considering that they put their own TLS certificates in front of the website's.
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As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity.
This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
Additionally, as all blockchain transactions are Public, you might regret not caring about your privacy earlier.
For example, an old transaction might expose your identity (if you are anonymous online like many of us)
Or your coins you received from casino might get freeze by some CEX..
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Good to see MixTum here, literally, the 4 days period is required for the transaction issues to be resolved as addresses will be deleted?
What if transaction issues were not resolved before the window period, what happens to the auto deletion of address?
Meanwhile, how long has MixTum been on board as I want to give it a try.
Is there any online support for Mixtum
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For example, an old transaction might expose your identity (if you are anonymous online like many of us)
Or your coins you received from casino might get freeze by some CEX..
Than dont use CEX, we can live without them fine and we dont have to worry about freezing coins ever.
And hiding identity or using tor would not help with that, it would only make things worse if combination of CEX exchange is used.
You cant force people to care about this.
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With so many Bitcoin mixers in the cryptocurrency space it's becoming complicated to know how to select a good one to use. I have heard so much about mixtum.io but not yet accustomed to it the way I would love to.
What am I looking for in a Bitcoin mixer?
Not really much.
1. Stand out security and anonymity: I believe this is the core reason why people even want Bitcoin mixer.
2. Protection from the mixer itself. Some bitcoin mixer may protect you from the public eyes and keep you anonymous but you would be vulnerable to them, I believe it should be both ways where you can get complete anonymity.
3. Compatibility with Tor browser: I don't know about other but this browser is the deal. It's like an addictional strong layer of protection added to the Bitcoin mixer.
Other things are secondary like transaction fee, confirmation time and so on.
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Other things are secondary like transaction fee, confirmation time and so on.
I would add price as well.
Mixing can be very expensive... I have spent quite some money mixing already..
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Good to see MixTum here, literally, the 4 days period is required for the transaction issues to be resolved as addresses will be deleted?
What if transaction issues were not resolved before the window period, what happens to the auto deletion of address?
If you take your time to go through the Op you’d see that all your questions have been answered there. Read the Op first before you start asking questions about things you don’t understand.
How long do addresses for funds transfer remain valid?
They remain valid for 7 days. This period is sufficient to address any network issues, delays and human errors that may occur, thus guaranteeing safety of customer's assets. Anyway, in all cases an address lifetime for every request is captured in a letter of guarantee provided by the MixTum.io platform.
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Good to read about MixTum, since it does not store logs after some days, what if there was a transaction error that did not pull through? How is that going to be resolved from your end?
And are you saying that it has no security risks and cannot be compromised like leak of transaction details?
Quite interesting.
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Good to read about MixTum, since it does not store logs after some days, what if there was a transaction error that did not pull through? How is that going to be resolved from your end?
And are you saying that it has no security risks and cannot be compromised like leak of transaction details?
Quite interesting.
You can go on Mixtum.io and read by yourself:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/26/ruaT2.png)
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Good to see MixTum here, literally, the 4 days period is required for the transaction issues to be resolved as addresses will be deleted?
What if transaction issues were not resolved before the window period, what happens to the auto deletion of address?
The moment your transaction is recognized on the network, you have started the mixing process. But you can expect realization only after confirmation of your TX.
Good to read about MixTum, since it does not store logs after some days, what if there was a transaction error that did not pull through? How is that going to be resolved from your end?
And are you saying that it has no security risks and cannot be compromised like leak of transaction details?
Quite interesting.
@paid2 overtook me, but to confirm, the letter of guarantee is very important and it is sufficient evidence for all ambiguities.
Otherwise, if you sent the funds incorrectly, to the wrong address for example, you cannot expect any kind of solving or refund because Bitcoin transactions are not reversible.
Mixtum has nothing to do with it.
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This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.
In fact, I have been using CEX with full KYC without any problems. I think this will become more common in the future as the crypto market develops, similar to investing on stock exchanges.
My data is stored by CEX and I believe that someone other than CEX members or the police may be able to access it.
Having our data stored by the CEX is what most privacy enthusiasts fear when nothing is forever safe. If the purpose of the KYC was just to verify the holder information, resident, etc if they are genuine and all the information is deleted it's another thing but saving it can lead to vulnerability of the owner of the private information if the person in charge of the CEX users private information sell it or was hacked and the information falls into the wrong hands.
Meanwhile, all this and more is the reason why people's private information is sold on the dark web.
At the same time, I am not afraid that someone will know how many tokens I have, even if they are only worth a few hundred or a few thousand $. My only concern is that I could be involved in "dirty" money: BTC from hacks or data breaches and terrorist financing. I use MixTum and a few other Mixers only to ensure the security of my CEX account against this risk.
Most bad actors don't always care about the amount of crypto you're holding when they can make millions and more through the use of private information to execute their shady transactions.
If you must use a crypto mixer I will advise you to be sure they offer the quality privacy you want.
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With so many Bitcoin mixers in the cryptocurrency space it's becoming complicated to know how to select a good one to use. I have heard so much about mixtum.io but not yet accustomed to it the way I would love to.
What am I looking for in a Bitcoin mixer?
Not really much.
1. Stand out security and anonymity: I believe this is the core reason why people even want Bitcoin mixer.
2. Protection from the mixer itself. Some bitcoin mixer may protect you from the public eyes and keep you anonymous but you would be vulnerable to them, I believe it should be both ways where you can get complete anonymity.
3. Compatibility with Tor browser: I don't know about other but this browser is the deal. It's like an addictional strong layer of protection added to the Bitcoin mixer.
Other things are secondary like transaction fee, confirmation time and so on.
One of the most important features of a mixer is privacy that prevent mixed coins from being tracked on the blockchain and that is what makes it unique. Any mixer that does not have this feature does not worth to be called a mixer. Every mixed coins are hardly tracked to the origine and that is what the government is fight against to know the origine of every transaction.
Mixing a coin can be a bit expensive but it is quite better than falling in the hands of the AML bot that usually tag addresses based on repetitive transactions with the tagged address. Things could get worse if funds from such address is sent to a centralized platform.
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So basically, MixTum has been around for 4 years and has a solid multisgn security that protects users activities from malicious acts and bridge of sensitive information including errors.
I see that its commission is between 4-5% for cleaning processes which is negligible IMO.
However, my question is, how does MixTum hope to solve the problem of transaction errors that linger since it does not store logs?
Aside from this, what if the cleansing process delays after 6 hours, how would that lapses be handled?
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Having our data stored by the CEX is what most privacy enthusiasts fear when nothing is forever safe. If the purpose of the KYC was just to verify the holder information, resident, etc if they are genuine and all the information is deleted it's another thing but saving it can lead to vulnerability of the owner of the private information if the person in charge of the CEX users private information sell it or was hacked and the information falls into the wrong hands.
Meanwhile, all this and more is the reason why people's private information is sold on the dark web.
Most bad actors don't always care about the amount of crypto you're holding when they can make millions and more through the use of private information to execute their shady transactions.
If you must use a crypto mixer I will advise you to be sure they offer the quality privacy you want.
Yeah, I am aware of the potential risks associated with providing KYC information on CEXs, such as the misuse of personal information or the risk of fraud in the future if hackers obtain our personal data. However, similar to the level of security we experience when using banking services or trading on stock exchanges, hundreds of millions of CEX users are accepting this in exchange for convenience, investment opportunities, and the ability to profit from crypto market.
I understand that the need to protect personal data is paramount for many people, and they genuinely desire anonymity through various services. For the time being, I trust the most reputable CEXs in the crypto market and focus on investing. I only hope that my account will not be frozen due to involvement with "dirty" coins. And that is my sole purpose for using MixTum over other Mixer services.
Of course, I do not object to or deny the different purposes of other Mixtum users ^^
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Having our data stored by the CEX is what most privacy enthusiasts fear when nothing is forever safe. If the purpose of the KYC was just to verify the holder information, resident, etc if they are genuine and all the information is deleted it's another thing but saving it can lead to vulnerability of the owner of the private information if the person in charge of the CEX users private information sell it or was hacked and the information falls into the wrong hands.
Meanwhile, all this and more is the reason why people's private information is sold on the dark web.
Most bad actors don't always care about the amount of crypto you're holding when they can make millions and more through the use of private information to execute their shady transactions.
If you must use a crypto mixer I will advise you to be sure they offer the quality privacy you want.
Yeah, I am aware of the potential risks associated with providing KYC information on CEXs, such as the misuse of personal information or the risk of fraud in the future if hackers obtain our personal data. However, similar to the level of security we experience when using banking services or trading on stock exchanges, hundreds of millions of CEX users are accepting this in exchange for convenience, investment opportunities, and the ability to profit from crypto market.
I understand your point and, sadly, we can't exclude the use of CEX at some point if we want to maximize the chance presented by the market which is the reason why some people use CEXs for investment opportunities, the profitability of the market but for convenience, i will never agree with that because it's better to prioritize security over convenience.
Having said that, we can compare cryptocurrency with banking services, or stock exchanges in which the government play a key role in how they are operating because the foundation of crypto was to operate without the middleman (government, institutional banking, etc).
I understand that the need to protect personal data is paramount for many people, and they genuinely desire anonymity through various services. For the time being, I trust the most reputable CEXs in the crypto market and focus on investing. I only hope that my account will not be frozen due to involvement with "dirty" coins. And that is my sole purpose for using MixTum over other Mixer services.
Of course, I do not object to or deny the different purposes of other Mixtum users ^^
Ok but in the crypto market space, you shouldn't trust any CEXs except yourself due to what has happened to some reputable CEXs in the past where we see their CEO abusing the user funds not to talk about taking precautions to prevent accounts from frozen by CEX.
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I understand your point and, sadly, we can't exclude the use of CEX at some point if we want to maximize the chance presented by the market which is the reason why some people use CEXs for investment
I don't agree with this the major reason why people decided to choose cryptocurrency is because this sector is decentralised, people are tired of being slaves to the the government, and cryptocurrency brings that freedom from surveillance and restrictions.
To further emphasis a large portion if not all those who are into Bitcoin mixing all do it because they value privacy and anonymity.
Centralised exchanges CEX are under the eyes of the government you would need to provide many private details about yourself that can be used to hold you down. Decentralised exchanges are the opposite.
So how do one who decide to use Bitcoin mixer for anonymity and private end up wanting to use centralised exchanges
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I understand your point and, sadly, we can't exclude the use of CEX at some point if we want to maximize the chance presented by the market which is the reason why some people use CEXs for investment
I don't agree with this the major reason why people decided to choose cryptocurrency is because this sector is decentralised, people are tired of being slaves to the the government, and cryptocurrency brings that freedom from surveillance and restrictions.
To further emphasis a large portion if not all those who are into Bitcoin mixing all do it because they value privacy and anonymity.
Centralised exchanges CEX are under the eyes of the government you would need to provide many private details about yourself that can be used to hold you down. Decentralised exchanges are the opposite.
So how do one who decide to use Bitcoin mixer for anonymity and private end up wanting to use centralised exchanges
There could be so many reasons why we choose to mix coins. Most time it is not because we don't want our identity to be tracked but it could be a way to prevent us from been connected to a particular wallet that sent us funds and has been tagged as scam ruled by the AML watch bot.
There are so many reasons why people decide to mix their coins which one need to understand before trying to bring it from the view of Centralized exchanges.
For the centralized exchange to be in operation, that does not mean that they are trying to shift the purpose of Bitcoin which is meant to be decentralized to centralization. Even the CEX is more richer compared to decentralized exchanges if we look at it from another angle. The CEX offers so many features for users which are the reasons every investor want to have a CEX account.
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Good to see MixTum here. The uniqueness of its platform stands out. The fact that it mixes coins and keeps the addresses anonymous plus the low fees and untraceable transactions plus high security of the transaction process makes it a good try for every trader.
I hope the admins updates their website here as the links takes me to an archive messages.
Moreso, does MixTum has a 247 live support should you encounter trouble while mixing coins using MixTum? Peradventure it happens, what is the time frame for troubleshooting?
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I hope the admins updates their website here as the links takes me to an archive messages.
What do you mean exactly? Can't you access mixtum.io ?
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I am new in Bitcoins and this is a very informative topic to discuss in the forum. I have checked on MixTum.io website and learned a lot of things about mixing.
I just would like to clarify something that I have read on one of the articles. It says 'We do not allow clients to set mixing time frames'. So does it mean that getting my money back after mixing might take a long time? or is there a specific time frame for that? Has anyone here tried their services and how long did it took?
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I hope the admins updates their website here as the links takes me to an archive messages.
I don't know what you mean by archive messages. I just checked and the mixtum.io website works perfectly on Tor and also on clearnet.
Could those messages be ads that appear in your browser?. Maybe you should check the settings of your browser and operating system, since from what you say, those messages could be ads.
Also check that the URL is correct for Tor and clearnet as it could be a phishing site.
Clearnet: https://mixtum.io/
Tor: http://mixtumjzn2tsiusfkdhutntamspsg43kgt764qbdaxjebce4h6fcfiad.onion
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I just would like to clarify something that I have read on one of the articles. It says 'We do not allow clients to set mixing time frames'. So does it mean that getting my money back after mixing might take a long time? or is there a specific time frame for that? Has anyone here tried their services and how long did it took?
No, it just means that the time interval in which the mixing will be done is in the range of 1 to 6 hours maximum - and that the client cannot choose it himself, but will be chosen randomly. It just means that after your transaction is confirmed on the blockchain, you will receive your coins to the address you chose within a maximum time limit of 6 hours.
I think the reason for the clarification is that some other mixers allow the delay time to be set much longer, but at a specific time, which can be, for example, 14 hours 45 minutes. They argue that longer time is better for privacy, but that is now a matter of technical nature that could be debated.
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"...but if you have sent such sum by mistake, contact our help desk."
Hi! I'm planning to use Mixtum.io since I've heard a lot of good feedbacks from their previous users or i must say clients, also no questions ask on the Premium anonymization they're offering (that hopefully worth the price) i just a one concern, as a person who usually commit errors, like who doesn't, right? my question is, How fast or how long is it taking them to respond to human errors concern and let's say technical concerns in general. how do they usually respond do they have live chat or via email and how can they authenticate the client if they don't store information and/or customer info.? i would appreciate a response. Thank you!
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"...but if you have sent such sum by mistake, contact our help desk."
Hi! I'm planning to use Mixtum.io since I've heard a lot of good feedbacks from their previous users or i must say clients, also no questions ask on the Premium anonymization they're offering (that hopefully worth the price) i just a one concern, as a person who usually commit errors, like who doesn't, right? my question is, How fast or how long is it taking them to respond to human errors concern and let's say technical concerns in general. how do they usually respond do they have live chat or via email and how can they authenticate the client if they don't store information and/or customer info.? i would appreciate a response. Thank you!
I dont know how long it takes the Mixtum team to attend to their user's query since I have never had an issue ever since I used their service but they claim to provide a fully automated while their customer support team is always available around the clock to attend to any issues that arise which make have the impression that the use of artificial intelligence within the Bitcoin mixing space is already adopted by some crypto mixer platform and I am correct Mixtum is one of them.
Having said that, if we exclude my view about Mixtum. Mixtum has been in the business of crypto mixing for years and maintains a good reputation. One thing about crypto enthusiast especially privacy is that they always flock to the platform that quenches their thirst for their needs.
Note: It's essential to research and choose a reputable platform, that suits your needs and preferences.
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I have tested mixtum.io and personally it went fine by me, this won't be my first time using a Bitcoin mixer but I noticed some little positive difference using mixtum compared to other. Well this may still just be my own opinion.
The transaction on mixtum. Io is a bit faster than others, and the transaction fees are at good rate. The site is very easy to surf and navigate even a newbie would manage .
But I used the mixer on tor browser to and an extra layer of security, also I had done my research on this mixer before I ventured into using it and I advice you do so too
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"...but if you have sent such sum by mistake, contact our help desk."
Hi! I'm planning to use Mixtum.io since I've heard a lot of good feedbacks from their previous users or i must say clients, also no questions ask on the Premium anonymization they're offering (that hopefully worth the price) i just a one concern, as a person who usually commit errors, like who doesn't, right? my question is, How fast or how long is it taking them to respond to human errors concern and let's say technical concerns in general. how do they usually respond do they have live chat or via email and how can they authenticate the client if they don't store information and/or customer info.? i would appreciate a response. Thank you!
I don't know why there are suddenly so many new users asking questions about solving user errors. You all should probably better inform yourself about the functions of the services you are commenting on.
What kind of mistakes are you even talking about?
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I think that MixTum does cannot help one with creating their own mixing services, it would rather help you mix your own coins.
There has to be another service that can help you create your own service.
Meanwhile, MixTum has a really fair fees for mixing of coins. You should gives it a try and tell from your experience.
It nice to have you guys on this forum I read the OP page but I would like to know if MixTum actually help people to create their own functioning mixing service? If yes, what's in it for the MixTum team?
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Hey guys, I recently stumbled upon this project while searching for reliable coin mixing services. Security and anonymity are my top concerns regarding transactions on the platform. Could someone explain how the mixing service works to safeguard user privacy?
I know that no information is retained after a mixing session, but I'd like to understand how funds are exchanged with other services securely. Does this process ensure complete anonymity for the sender?
Moreover, what are the chances that IP addresses, browser signatures, and cookies are not stored? I want to ensure maximum privacy and security when using this service. Any insights into these aspects would greatly help in making an informed decision about whether to use the platform or not."
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"...but if you have sent such sum by mistake, contact our help desk."
Hi! I'm planning to use Mixtum.io since I've heard a lot of good feedbacks from their previous users or i must say clients, also no questions ask on the Premium anonymization they're offering (that hopefully worth the price) i just a one concern, as a person who usually commit errors, like who doesn't, right? my question is, How fast or how long is it taking them to respond to human errors concern and let's say technical concerns in general. how do they usually respond do they have live chat or via email and how can they authenticate the client if they don't store information and/or customer info.? i would appreciate a response. Thank you!
Oh, this is looking somehow confusing because I still don't get you but I think you are pointing at getting feedback from the Mixtum customer service about unresolved issue. That shouldn't be a problem but you need to have some understanding about Bitcoin and mixing before you ever think of mixing your coin so you can follow the procedures for it to get done.
Do you mean you are someone that commit error? Even though but that does not mean that you would have to make mistakes that could lead to lose of your fund. For you to mix your coin, what is required is to create a new wallet address that would be for the output of your fund. All you have to do is to send your fund to the specified wallet address for your coin to be conjoined. Since you are talking about making mistake, do you plan to make the mistake of sending your funds to the wrong address? You need to chill and take sometimes to read about how Bitcoin mixers work and their mechanization.
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I was thinking. What if mixtum promoted a review campaign?
I saw it created two a long time ago, in 2019.
It could he useful to get reviews of experienced members of the community, it could also attract more users and clear most common questions about the mixing process.
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I was thinking. What if mixtum promoted a review campaign?
I saw it created two a long time ago, in 2019.
It could he useful to get reviews of experienced members of the community, it could also attract more users and clear most common questions about the mixing process.
TX fees were acceptable these days, I think less than 20sat/vb. Mixtum also offers an option for free testing, i.e. without paying the mixing fee, it's a good possibility for a review.
(https://bitcoindata.science/api/bitcoinfees.php?¤cy=USD&hex=000000) (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcointalk-api.html#bitcoin-fees)
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I was thinking. What if mixtum promoted a review campaign?
I saw it created two a long time ago, in 2019.
It could he useful to get reviews of experienced members of the community, it could also attract more users and clear most common questions about the mixing process.
TX fees were acceptable these days, I think less than 20sat/vb. Mixtum also offers an option for free testing, i.e. without paying the mixing fee, it's a good possibility for a review.
(https://bitcoindata.science/api/bitcoinfees.php?¤cy=USD&hex=000000) (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcointalk-api.html#bitcoin-fees)
Indeed. High fees makes such campaigns very expensive for bother testers and the mixer...
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So team, I understand that you may be very busy and in may probably take a very long time for you to see this message and respond to it but I have few questions to ask regarding the privacy of the project, how user data is protected most importantly the technicalities of the mixing process.
Is there a white paper of some sort that explains the inner workings of this mixing service in greater details especially how it relates to exchange of funds with external services that may or may not be regulated.
Also how quick can a mixing service last and are there verifiable evidence of trust from end users like reviews on trustpilot and the likes?
Also what does the process of mixing entail? What are the fee structures like and how important or how necessary is it for one to be technically vast to be able to use this mixing service?
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So team, I understand that you may be very busy and in may probably take a very long time for you to see this message and respond to it but I have few questions to ask regarding the privacy of the project, how user data is protected most importantly the technicalities of the mixing process.
Is there a white paper of some sort that explains the inner workings of this mixing service in greater details especially how it relates to exchange of funds with external services that may or may not be regulated.
Also how quick can a mixing service last and are there verifiable evidence of trust from end users like reviews on trustpilot and the likes?
Also what does the process of mixing entail? What are the fee structures like and how important or how necessary is it for one to be technically vast to be able to use this mixing service?
Hey mate I am not technical guru but when using a Bitcoin mixer you would be required to provide a receiving wallet this would serve as the final destination for your Bitcoin. I believe it's all about mixing your Bitcoin across several other wallets in a manner that it can not be traced to the final destination which is the wallet you provided.
Also transaction fees aren't fixed although some mixers has a more inflated transaction fee than other but I don't think you can get a fixed answer as far as transaction fee is concern.
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I'm a little bit confused as to what you meant by MixTum does not shuffle available funds in one multiple pots but exchanges incoming bitcoin.
Are you saying that MixTum does not mix older funds but New Bitcoin funds?
I find it a little vague to understand.
This would be my first time using it so could you explain it to me as a lay man?
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So team, I understand that you may be very busy and in may probably take a very long time for you to see this message and respond to it but I have few questions to ask regarding the privacy of the project, how user data is protected most importantly the technicalities of the mixing process.
Is there a white paper of some sort that explains the inner workings of this mixing service in greater details especially how it relates to exchange of funds with external services that may or may not be regulated.
Also how quick can a mixing service last and are there verifiable evidence of trust from end users like reviews on trustpilot and the likes?
Also what does the process of mixing entail? What are the fee structures like and how important or how necessary is it for one to be technically vast to be able to use this mixing service?
Advice for you, go to https://mixtum.io/ and read the terms of use, mixing method, etc... There you can find all the answers to most of the questions you asked. After that, if you have any doubts, come here to ask direct questions.
Mixers are not any ICO or NFT projects, things like white paper are completely irrelevant here.
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Is there a white paper
Are you seriously asking from them to show you some white paper for mixer that already exist for years? :o
In one topic you are asking spam questions like this, and in another mixer topic you are advising and teaching other members how mixing works.
Brilliant ;D
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I don't know why there are suddenly so many new users asking questions about solving user errors.
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It seems to me that someone is trying to do something with their alt farm by asking questions that of course do not interest them, but they have the goal of gathering activity and maybe some + karma. This tactic has already been seen countless times on BTT, and apart from the members who teleported, it seems that a lot of negative things also teleported here.
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If you’re like me who seeks premium quality of coins or a premium quality coin mixer, mixtum.io is for you, based on my experience they indeed provide premium coin anonymity and they made sure that the coins you'll receive in return for your Bitcoins come from the major cryptocurrency exchanges. And it's widely known that only clean coins can enter those ecosystems after passing through rigorous KYC/AML checks. I also love its unique feature that Tumbler doesn’t mix coins from different users in a pool, and that the coins are coming from cryptocurrency exchanges, that's why i highly recommend this platform.
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I have tested mixtum.io and personally it went fine by me, this won't be my first time using a Bitcoin mixer but I noticed some little positive difference using mixtum compared to other. Well this may still just be my own opinion.
The transaction on mixtum. Io is a bit faster than others, and the transaction fees are at good rate. The site is very easy to surf and navigate even a newbie would manage .
I have not tried out the Mixtum Tumbler service, but I like what I am seeing so far and what people are saying about them which is the reason why I want to give it a try the next time I want to move my Bitcoin to my cold storage.
But I used the mixer on tor browser to and an extra layer of security, also I had done my research on this mixer before I ventured into using it and I advice you do so too
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When privacy is a top priority, no matter how secure and the genuine no-user log service a crypto tumbler provides access to the website through the use of Tor browser is always the best way to go. However, using a Tor browser dont solve the privacy issue either if the user doesn't set or use the Tor browser in a way that he/she will get total privacy.
I'm pointing this out cause some people dont understand that the Tor browser still requires a good setting before it can provide the needed privacy shield.
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I have not tried out the Mixtum Tumbler service, but I like what I am seeing so far and what people are saying about them which is the reason why I want to give it a try the next time I want to move my Bitcoin to my cold storage.
Seeing and actually experiencing it are completely two different things. I honestly think you should do a test run you would definitely find out more this things about this Bitcoin mixer.
But from your post you aren't a newbie when it comes to Bitcoin mixing so what's you grading like? What are you searching for in a Bitcoin mixer, what's your turn off on a Bitcoin mixer and what are you advice to first timers Bitcoin mixer users.
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And it's widely known that only clean coins can enter those ecosystems after passing through rigorous KYC/AML checks.
I also love its unique feature that Tumbler doesn’t mix coins from different users in a pool, and that the coins are coming from cryptocurrency exchanges, that's why i highly recommend this platform.
Tumbling your Bitcoin depends on the level of safety and anonymity you are looking for since the process is absolutely easy and just requires couples of hours to get your coin back to your new wallet address. Chosing whether to mix a coin especially Bitcoin could depend on where the coin is coming from especially when it is from online business partners that are unknown with hidden identity.
We also need some level of privacy if we really don't want to be tracked by scammers or hackers that are always targeting different wallet transactions to how where the fund is coming from and where it is going. Tumbling your Bitcoin can create a gap and disconnect the chances of being traced.
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It seems to me that someone is trying to do something with their alt farm by asking questions that of course do not interest them, but they have the goal of gathering activity and maybe some + karma. This tactic has already been seen countless times on BTT, and apart from the members who teleported, it seems that a lot of negative things also teleported here.
I sincerely hope that this is not planned or even worse paid for, it is quite unconvincing and repulsive.
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Hey team, this looks like a good project, but I'm surprised I haven't heard about it considering that it launched over five years ago.
I'm reading through the initial post and can't help but notice a couple of claims I'd like some clarification on.
The article claims that the platform "does not shuffle available funds in one or multiple pots, but exchanges incoming bitcoins with coins purchased from investors - cryptocurrency exchanges."
What are those investor cryptocurrency exchanges? Are they regular cryptocurrency exchanges, or are there some special investment vehicles set up for this particular purpose?
Also, regarding your process of mixing coins, you wrote: "Our transfer algorithm selects independent investors and trading platforms, and breaks down your funds in a manner that completely removes a link between input and output transactions. We neither require registration nor store logs. Once the mixing is done and the transaction confirmed, the data on processed transactions is deleted. For each mixing request, we issue a digitally signed letter of guarantee, which confirms our obligations to the client."
How can this be independently verified to give users confidence and trust that coins are properly mixed and cannot be traced?
I see there's a lot of attention on the project and an influx of intending users, so I believe this is a valid question that should be addressed.
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For the benefit of clarity on MixTum:
In a case where an investor loses his digitally signed letter of guarantee which happens to be the only means of trace knowing fully well that the organisation stores no data nor log of transactions; is there a provisions for a re-issuing of another digitally signed letter of guarantee?
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It seems to me that someone is trying to do something with their alt farm by asking questions that of course do not interest them, but they have the goal of gathering activity and maybe some + karma. This tactic has already been seen countless times on BTT, and apart from the members who teleported, it seems that a lot of negative things also teleported here.
I sincerely hope that this is not planned or even worse paid for, it is quite unconvincing and repulsive.
I can only conclude that these are not unique users who are genuinely interested in mixers, and it is also evident that this mixer is not their only "target", considering that they are "attacking" another ANN mixer topic. In any case, it seems that there is some kind of intention behind everything, but I honestly doubt that it is about the fact that the mixers paid these bots to do additional promotion for them.
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Hi everyone, i just recently discover this platform while looking for a coin mixer to use for my growing wallet, as i was browsing i've read some good and not so good feedbacks from others so im wondering if anyone here who tried their service for real? Mind sharing your experience? how did it go and the things that i should keep in mind before "availing" their service or before i input my funds? i would really appreciate it. Thank you so much!
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Indeed. High fees makes such campaigns very expensive for bother testers and the mixer...
MixTum has Free Trial: Mixing commissions are waived, but users must send exactly 0.001 BTC. Reviewers can easily experience and evaluate MixTum's services, especially now that transaction fees on the Bitcoin blockchain have decreased following the cooling of the Runes protocol craze.
I support the idea of a Review contest, but it's not thought to be truly engaging as the user experience on MixTum is quite similar in terms of operations and results. The only difference might be in terms of perception and language usage. I think a Social campaign might be more suitable in helping MixTum reach potential users on social media.
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think a Social campaign might be more suitable in helping MixTum reach potential users on social media.
I don't think anyone seeking a privacy platform would seeking social media to get information about it.. I wouldn't .
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I don't think anyone seeking a privacy platform would seeking social media to get information about it.. I wouldn't .
I cant imagine Mixtum and other mixers doing that on X and other social media websites.
They could only get more attention from governments by doing that, and I would avoid doing that and rubbing their noses.
Search engine ads and forum promotions are much better.
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I don't know why there are suddenly so many new users asking questions about solving user errors.
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It seems to me that someone is trying to do something with their alt farm by asking questions that of course do not interest them, but they have the goal of gathering activity and maybe some + karma. This tactic has already been seen countless times on BTT, and apart from the members who teleported, it seems that a lot of negative things also teleported here.
Karma is basically worthless here - it is not as large as in Bitcointalk, it won't help you get into any campaigns, and nobody really cares much about it in general. I don't know why someone would waste their time farming karma on this forum.
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Karma is basically worthless here - it is not as large as in Bitcointalk, it won't help you get into any campaigns, and nobody really cares much about it in general. I don't know why someone would waste their time farming karma on this forum.
it is human nature to like to be rewarded. any kind of satisfaction raises self-confidence, I guess that suits everyone.
If we talk about campaigns, there are a few missing here, that's a fact. The fact that two campaigns have now stopped significantly complicates the development of this forum.
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Karma is basically worthless here - it is not as large as in Bitcointalk, it won't help you get into any campaigns, and nobody really cares much about it in general. I don't know why someone would waste their time farming karma on this forum.
I would not agree with your opinion, because although karma is not like merits in the technical sense, the number of positive karmas is an indicator of how much other members value someone's contribution on the forum. Therefore, I would not underestimate that feature of the forum, and that is certainly the case with those mentioned here.
In addition, our manager keeps statistics on the number of karma of each campaign participant, which is another thing that does not support your thesis.
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I don't think anyone seeking a privacy platform would seeking social media to get information about it.. I wouldn't .
I cant imagine Mixtum and other mixers doing that on X and other social media websites.
They could only get more attention from governments by doing that, and I would avoid doing that and rubbing their noses.
Search engine ads and forum promotions are much better.
I'm simply offering a suggestion to help MixTum expand its user base. I believe this could be incorporated into a marketing campaign, and MixTum team can consider to make the best decision for the future of MixTum.
I'm not trying to give any advice, I just want to see MixTum continue to operate stably to be one of my top choices when I want to mix BTC.
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Karma is basically worthless here - it is not as large as in Bitcointalk, it won't help you get into any campaigns, and nobody really cares much about it in general. I don't know why someone would waste their time farming karma on this forum.
I don't agree that karma is worthless in this forum. Another thing is that managers don't consider a user's Karma amount (at the moment) to be relevant for signature campaigns, but that can change at any time. The administrator said that a new rule will be implemented on the forum, where users must have a certain amount of Karma in order to reach the next rank. When that new rule is implemented, there may come a time when managers believe that Karma is relevant to accepting users in a signature campaign. There is still no exact date to know when the new rule will be implemented.