What Happened to this user's Karma?

[yhiaali3]

Edited: Surprisingly, the 5 users have the same registered date . The chance of them for multi-accounting is pretty hight now.

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August 03, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
August 03, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
August 03, 2018, 09:07:36 AM
August 03, 2018, 04:58:11 PM
August 03, 2018, 05:10:12 PM


This is really surprising, especially since at that early time the forum was still in its infancy and there was no financial benefit. In addition, I do not know if the karma system had been created at that time. So it is surprising that one person can create five accounts with no monetary benefit.

The registration date at approximately the same time for these five members raises serious suspicions but is not sufficient evidence of multi-accounting unless the same IP is used.

[The Hunter]

There's a chance that this case is highly correlated with this evidence https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317996.0

[Igebotz]

Edited: Surprisingly, the 5 users have the same registered date . The chance of them for multi-accounting is pretty hight now.

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August 03, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
August 03, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
August 03, 2018, 09:07:36 AM
August 03, 2018, 04:58:11 PM
August 03, 2018, 05:10:12 PM


Three accounts in just 40 minutes...  It is almost certain that the same person created these accounts. The forum IDs are consecutive, minimal probability of coincidence.
I'm not sure why you avoid mentioning them since it's about the reputation of these accounts, they should know about this thread.

I'm not sure if there was any need to tag them here since the admin has stated that something are better kept private and not add shame to it - I noticed they were all high profile accounts from the girls group with quality posts (at least from the ones I've read). Personally, I would say it appears to be a group of close friends opening an account on the same day( got the girls club created for themselves) , as I doubt one person could operate these high-profile accounts.

And for the karma abuse it could be a common group practice - it's a girl the girl club for a reason.

[admin]

there are always tags, but some tags only i can see.

[Cryptsafe]

It's very possible that some of them must have engaged themselves in doing this, or even organize a group where they routinely give each other positive Karma, whether post deserve it or not.

great analysis.

I have no doubt from your postulation but I think giving karma to a good post is worth it and serves as a means of encouraging more good posts and contributions as well.  I believe admin has control and oversee everything going on here so, possibly that must have warranted his actions as the accounts must have been abusing the karma rules here. I love the way admin handled the situation without any observations and issues as that would have raised concerns here.

[Yamane_Keto]

This is based on my karma logs

Can everyone see karma log?

It's a private matter, the punishment is harsh enough, no need to add shame to it.
This penalty is because of karma manipulation.

Shouldn't -1 karma lead to a de-rank? back to lower rank that doesn't need karma

[admin]

It's a private matter, the punishment is harsh enough, no need to add shame to it.
This penalty is because of karma manipulation.

Shouldn't -1 karma lead to a de-rank? back to lower rank that doesn't need karma

It is only a one way implementation

[PX-Z]

This is based on my karma logs

Can everyone see karma log?

It will be ready for public view in the next few days. Note it's only made by me by scraping the user's profile and checking their karma every time. It will only consist of username, karma received, total karma, and date (scraped datetime)

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's very possible that some of them must have engaged themselves in doing this, or even organize a group where they routinely give each other positive Karma, whether post deserve it or not.

great analysis.

I have no doubt from your postulation but I think giving karma to a good post is worth it and serves as a means of encouraging more good posts and contributions as well.  I believe admin has control and oversee everything going on here so, possibly that must have warranted his actions as the accounts must have been abusing the karma rules here. I love the way admin handled the situation without any observations and issues as that would have raised concerns here.

Well, there was no way the issue of an erased karma would or should have been handled without any observations, at least, this thread is a proof to the fact that I observed it, and that was why I decided to create this thread to find out why or what happened.
And I agree any way, for admin said something I liked when we wanted to know how this user(now users) abused the karma system, the admin didn't answer, he simply said that the wiped karma is already a harsh punishment, there is no need shaming the user by stating exactly what they did.

And talking about giving good posts Karma, there was never a time doing so was bad, you can give karma to as much good posts as you see when you come around them, but what the admin Is against is, abusing it, like Karma exchange and so on.

[examplens]

It's a private matter, the punishment is harsh enough, no need to add shame to it.
This penalty is because of karma manipulation.

admin, During such punishments, can you disable the ability to give or take away karma to certain users?
If someone is already abusing this system, isn't it also logical to exclude such a possibility for the future, Is this even possible and is such a practice applied?

[Cryptsafe]

It's very possible that some of them must have engaged themselves in doing this, or even organize a group where they routinely give each other positive Karma, whether post deserve it or not.

great analysis.

I have no doubt from your postulation but I think giving karma to a good post is worth it and serves as a means of encouraging more good posts and contributions as well.  I believe admin has control and oversee everything going on here so, possibly that must have warranted his actions as the accounts must have been abusing the karma rules here. I love the way admin handled the situation without any observations and issues as that would have raised concerns here.

Well, there was no way the issue of an erased karma would or should have been handled without any observations, at least, this thread is a proof to the fact that I observed it, and that was why I decided to create this thread to find out why or what happened.
And I agree any way, for admin said something I liked when we wanted to know how this user(now users) abused the karma system, the admin didn't answer, he simply said that the wiped karma is already a harsh punishment, there is no need shaming the user by stating exactly what they did.

And talking about giving good posts Karma, there was never a time doing so was bad, you can give karma to as much good posts as you see when you come around them, but what the admin Is against is, abusing it, like Karma exchange and so on.

Actually, I liked the way admin handles situations here. That was why I had to say that he handles situations without you noticing it and if not that you are familiar with that account, you would not have noticed it because there was no issues of creating thread to dig deep into matters that could call attention of people to start dragging feet and I believe the account holders too know their offense so they decided to go mute so as not to attract attention to themselves otherwise the issue would be more than they could comprehend.
I can not say any much further as the admin has the final say in any offense that is perpetrated on the platform by members who feels they can do what ever they want and get away with it just like that.

[Jokers]

admin, During such punishments, can you disable the ability to give or take away karma to certain users?

Yes, he can if he will consider it as the best decision. There are several users on the forum which are in the group of those who can't change other's karma. But the final decision is on admin.

[admin]

a karma penalty by default removes the karma granting ability.
on top of that, i execute an additional punishment:
- Reset karma or significantly reduce karma
- Significantly reduce points
- Freeze the account from changing posts, in case account suspected to be multiaccount, and there is ongoing investigation.

[Cryptsafe]

a karma penalty by default removes the karma granting ability.
on top of that, i execute an additional punishment:
- Reset karma or significantly reduce karma
- Significantly reduce points
- Freeze the account from changing posts, in case account suspected to be multiaccount, and there is ongoing investigation.

These penalties as listed are very much alright and I think it would be very much effective as they are in full force on the platform.
If anyone is found wanting should be made to understand how it feels to abuse the karma or a laid down rules governing a platform.
Although I have created something of this nature before now as a topic and possibly you might not have seen it so I had to bring it up here.. please forgive my ignorance as I desire to hear from you with respect to this opinion.
Can it be possible to see how many karma a topic, comment or post received?
The karma can be at the top of such post in brackets open and close so that members can keep track of the particular posts that gave them the karma and possibly see a way to improve better on it. Seeing a post that received karma gives a sense of satisfaction and a job weldone. I believe you understand my point here. But however, it is still an opinion which I believe other members too would be hoping to see it in the near future.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The removal of all Karma must be scary for the users who are abusing karma between them. I was checking to see the exchange details of karma of my profile, could not find any details, I tried it on some other profiles too.

My question is, if I can not see who exchanged karma between each others then how would I know there was an abuse. I am sure I am missing something.