Do online casinos ever refuse to pay winnings?

[$crypto$]

Just like you, I have never experienced it and I think as long as we play in a place that has a high reputation and we obey the rules that apply at that casino, then we will never experience that, such as being refused payment and so on.

Because for me there must be a reason for the casinos to refuse payments from their users. I'm not sure if a reputable casino will simply refuse payment without any particular reason.

I think casinos dont necessary must be a highly reputable. Any casino pay winnings, as long as this casino does not look like a completely scam that was created in few hours only to steal gamblers deposits. I think that a person himself must put enough effort (and I would stress on "enough effort", as in a fight for a customer, casinos close eyes on little rules violations gamblers make) to get asked for kyc, find shady casino or have his withdrawals frozen.

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

[bitbit97]

Just like you, I have never experienced it and I think as long as we play in a place that has a high reputation and we obey the rules that apply at that casino, then we will never experience that, such as being refused payment and so on.

Because for me there must be a reason for the casinos to refuse payments from their users. I'm not sure if a reputable casino will simply refuse payment without any particular reason.

I think casinos dont necessary must be a highly reputable. Any casino pay winnings, as long as this casino does not look like a completely scam that was created in few hours only to steal gamblers deposits. I think that a person himself must put enough effort (and I would stress on "enough effort", as in a fight for a customer, casinos close eyes on little rules violations gamblers make) to get asked for kyc, find shady casino or have his withdrawals frozen.

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

Wow... I  though such stories of "success" no longer happen today. So your friend was kicked, without any explanation, without giving any comments? At least casino could have said that he has violated some rules, kick-ban him and end that story. But if this was a local casino, was he able to pay them a visit and ask for explanation IRL? Did he has any proof of win? Since you say it was a local casino, they can be called for an answer.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

This is should always be mindful of the casinos they choose to use and also very important to first of all read all the casino's terms and conditions before signing up, because maybe he may have broken a rule without even knowing it which resulted to him being kicked out.
But then again, some casinos can be very manipulative, even if your friend violated a rule, they had to wait until he made a significant win before taking actions on him which is very bad.

People should just be very careful with the casinos they get involved with, it's should at least be a trusted and reputable casino and not just some random casino that offers mouthwatering bonuses and rewards.

[$crypto$]

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

This is should always be mindful of the casinos they choose to use and also very important to first of all read all the casino's terms and conditions before signing up, because maybe he may have broken a rule without even knowing it which resulted to him being kicked out.
But then again, some casinos can be very manipulative, even if your friend violated a rule, they had to wait until he made a significant win before taking actions on him which is very bad.

People should just be very careful with the casinos they get involved with, it's should at least be a trusted and reputable casino and not just some random casino that offers mouthwatering bonuses and rewards.

So that's it, if we violate the terms and conditions in their rules, why don't they take action from the start? why do they have to first wait until we win a big win before they kick us?

And after I found out that my friend never seemed to violate any terms and conditions. He played normally, registered, then made a deposit then played as usual. and previously he also made withdrawals with small amounts and it was safe.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

This is should always be mindful of the casinos they choose to use and also very important to first of all read all the casino's terms and conditions before signing up, because maybe he may have broken a rule without even knowing it which resulted to him being kicked out.
But then again, some casinos can be very manipulative, even if your friend violated a rule, they had to wait until he made a significant win before taking actions on him which is very bad.

People should just be very careful with the casinos they get involved with, it's should at least be a trusted and reputable casino and not just some random casino that offers mouthwatering bonuses and rewards.

So that's it, if we violate the terms and conditions in their rules, why don't they take action from the start? why do they have to first wait until we win a big win before they kick us?

And after I found out that my friend never seemed to violate any terms and conditions. He played normally, registered, then made a deposit then played as usual. and previously he also made withdrawals with small amounts and it was safe.

Most of these casinos do not really have the funds and resources to pay up their winnings, some are already going bankrupt, so when people win huge amount of money, they seek for excuses to make sure they avoid paying your winnings.

It's like a casino I was using a certain time, once in a while, they'd always reward their customers with a free bet coupon, I've been winning a free bet coupon for a while but they were often little amount of money, and sometimes when I play with the free bet coupon, I'd lose and sometimes I'd win, have never had issues redeeming my free bets or my winnings from the free bets because whenever I won, they'd always pay my winnings in full.

But one day I got a free bet coupon of about $200, i used the $200 to stake a bet and won over $3000, it was indeed my lucky day, or so I thought.
I tried making a withdrawal, but instead of paying my winning in full just like before, they slashed the payment into 3, and only paid $1000, I got furious and tried contacting them, and they told me that winnings from free bets are often slashed in 3.
Funny enough, this was the first time I experienced this in my history of using the free bet coupon.

[$crypto$]

So that's it, if we violate the terms and conditions in their rules, why don't they take action from the start? why do they have to first wait until we win a big win before they kick us?

And after I found out that my friend never seemed to violate any terms and conditions. He played normally, registered, then made a deposit then played as usual. and previously he also made withdrawals with small amounts and it was safe.

Most of these casinos do not really have the funds and resources to pay up their winnings, some are already going bankrupt, so when people win huge amount of money, they seek for excuses to make sure they avoid paying your winnings.

It's like a casino I was using a certain time, once in a while, they'd always reward their customers with a free bet coupon, I've been winning a free bet coupon for a while but they were often little amount of money, and sometimes when I play with the free bet coupon, I'd lose and sometimes I'd win, have never had issues redeeming my free bets or my winnings from the free bets because whenever I won, they'd always pay my winnings in full.

But one day I got a free bet coupon of about $200, i used the $200 to stake a bet and won over $3000, it was indeed my lucky day, or so I thought.
I tried making a withdrawal, but instead of paying my winning in full just like before, they slashed the payment into 3, and only paid $1000, I got furious and tried contacting them, and they told me that winnings from free bets are often slashed in 3.
Funny enough, this was the first time I experienced this in my history of using the free bet coupon.

Well, they often cheat so that they don't pay the full winnings that their customers get, that's what will happen if we play at a casino that doesn't have a good reputation. Because I have never had anything problematic while I played at a well-known casino.

This is like my friend's story, he placed a lottery bet and he won. However, the winnings paid are lost by 30%. Even though there is no prior stipulation that they will deduct the winnings. It's quite strange but I saw it myself.

[pawel7777]

I think the most notorious thing especially for newly established casinos is withholding players' money under the guise of not meeting the wager requirement, which are often either hidden in terms of service, or not disclosed at all. I had such a situation recently, but after pointing out that no wagering requirement is even mentioned in ToS, they allowed me to withdraw.

[Cryptsafe]

You have made some point here because I realize most times, gamblers fail to read the terms and conditions of casinos before engaging with them. This, I think, is one of the problems facing the casino industry because they have a lot of gamblers who go after their bonuses and giveaways without reading and following instruction. All they just want is to get the bonuses and play, knowing fully well that such activities comes with some commitment, which sometimes well laid out for all to see before they engage in the exercise. 

I think it doesn't help that ToS are usually wordy and use legal terms which can be confusing for the average joe. Not to mention they are very long and don't necessarily cover everything since they can have a clause that tells you they can change and make rules on the get-go. Unfortunately, I don't think implying things won't come from the casino itself since any business will prioritize their well-being and won't risk it just to make their ToS easier to read, but at the same time make it easier for legal attacks to come their way. Maybe people can make a list of what kind of things they want to know and use the find button to see how the casino handles them. For example, if you use a VPN regularly, whether it is banned or not and to what extent the casino will give punishment for that is mandatory to read. CMIIW.

You are correct sir. The ToS sometimes is another bone of contention for the average Joe as the barely can read it not to talk of understanding it as it is very lengthy. I think ToS is a key power to casinos because this is where their strength lies and they would make it some how that gamblers would not bother themselves reading it as it is too lengthy. I believe this is a tactics used by casinos to wave of gamblers with their secrets and at the entire end of it they say that the ToS is subject to change without prior notice.

I like your idea when you say people should make list of what they want. With that you have said, it would be easier to access Some details or information by just mere search engine to be updated. This would save gamblers some stress of taking their time to read through since they are just focused on a particular aspect of the ToS to get information they need.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I think the most notorious thing especially for newly established casinos is withholding players' money under the guise of not meeting the wager requirement, which are often either hidden in terms of service, or not disclosed at all. I had such a situation recently, but after pointing out that no wagering requirement is even mentioned in ToS, they allowed me to withdraw.

That's why it's very important for every gambler to first review the ToS before evening signing up, but most people are too lazy to read up the Ts&Cs of online casinos.
This appears to be one of the methods online casinos use in order to avoid paying people their winnings, especially the new casinos. they come into business knowing fully well they do not have enough resources and funds to actually pay every winnings, and when it's time to pay, they dig up stuffs from the ToS to justify their actions of not paying.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the most notorious thing especially for newly established casinos is withholding players' money under the guise of not meeting the wager requirement, which are often either hidden in terms of service, or not disclosed at all. I had such a situation recently, but after pointing out that no wagering requirement is even mentioned in ToS, they allowed me to withdraw.

That's why it's very important for every gambler to first review the ToS before evening signing up, but most people are too lazy to read up the Ts&Cs of online casinos.
This appears to be one of the methods online casinos use in order to avoid paying people their winnings, especially the new casinos. they come into business knowing fully well they do not have enough resources and funds to actually pay every winnings, and when it's time to pay, they dig up stuffs from the ToS to justify their actions of not paying.

You're right , well , I was a Person who was too lazy to Read the Tos , and with everything I've seen what happened because they didn't Read me , this is one of the things that has worried me the most. centered. doing when I Register In this Order of ideas Things can be very Different because Based on what we accept that is what can turn us into our Own Sentence where we Ourselves Become losers in the face of any Eventuality , that is why when new forms of When managing Casinos , the most Important thing is the laws by which the Casino and our money are Governed , that is why I do not Accept any type of Casinos that Offer me bonuses because those bonuses are Very Conditional and it is almost Impossible to Win.

[pawel7777]

I think the most notorious thing especially for newly established casinos is withholding players' money under the guise of not meeting the wager requirement, which are often either hidden in terms of service, or not disclosed at all. I had such a situation recently, but after pointing out that no wagering requirement is even mentioned in ToS, they allowed me to withdraw.

That's why it's very important for every gambler to first review the ToS before evening signing up, but most people are too lazy to read up the Ts&Cs of online casinos.
This appears to be one of the methods online casinos use in order to avoid paying people their winnings, especially the new casinos. they come into business knowing fully well they do not have enough resources and funds to actually pay every winnings, and when it's time to pay, they dig up stuffs from the ToS to justify their actions of not paying.

That wouldn't be a bad idea, but I think we would all agree that it's a good practice (and legal requirement in some jurisdictions) to inform customers on the policies properly, rather than just hiding it in ToS. They could use a pop-up window on the deposit page etc, to make sure players are aware of wagering requirements.
Anyhow, in my situation, the requirement was not even mentioned in their ToS.

[MUGNIA]

So that's it, if we violate the terms and conditions in their rules, why don't they take action from the start? why do they have to first wait until we win a big win before they kick us?

And after I found out that my friend never seemed to violate any terms and conditions. He played normally, registered, then made a deposit then played as usual. and previously he also made withdrawals with small amounts and it was safe.

Most of these casinos do not really have the funds and resources to pay up their winnings, some are already going bankrupt, so when people win huge amount of money, they seek for excuses to make sure they avoid paying your winnings.

It's like a casino I was using a certain time, once in a while, they'd always reward their customers with a free bet coupon, I've been winning a free bet coupon for a while but they were often little amount of money, and sometimes when I play with the free bet coupon, I'd lose and sometimes I'd win, have never had issues redeeming my free bets or my winnings from the free bets because whenever I won, they'd always pay my winnings in full.

But one day I got a free bet coupon of about $200, i used the $200 to stake a bet and won over $3000, it was indeed my lucky day, or so I thought.
I tried making a withdrawal, but instead of paying my winning in full just like before, they slashed the payment into 3, and only paid $1000, I got furious and tried contacting them, and they told me that winnings from free bets are often slashed in 3.
Funny enough, this was the first time I experienced this in my history of using the free bet coupon.

Well, they often cheat so that they don't pay the full winnings that their customers get, that's what will happen if we play at a casino that doesn't have a good reputation. Because I have never had anything problematic while I played at a well-known casino.

This is like my friend's story, he placed a lottery bet and he won. However, the winnings paid are lost by 30%. Even though there is no prior stipulation that they will deduct the winnings. It's quite strange but I saw it myself.

It's normal if there is a 30% cut. My father is a lottery addict and he has won quite a large amount compared to what he has won before. If it is a large amount there will be a cut from the organizer and the party where we placed the lottery, but my father doesn't care about it because for him his partner's money has doubled

[Litzki1990]

Just like you, I have never experienced it and I think as long as we play in a place that has a high reputation and we obey the rules that apply at that casino, then we will never experience that, such as being refused payment and so on.

Because for me there must be a reason for the casinos to refuse payments from their users. I'm not sure if a reputable casino will simply refuse payment without any particular reason.

I think casinos dont necessary must be a highly reputable. Any casino pay winnings, as long as this casino does not look like a completely scam that was created in few hours only to steal gamblers deposits. I think that a person himself must put enough effort (and I would stress on "enough effort", as in a fight for a customer, casinos close eyes on little rules violations gamblers make) to get asked for kyc, find shady casino or have his withdrawals frozen.

No, bro, because I had an experience with my friend whose winnings were never paid by the casino, in fact my friend was kicked out and was never able to access his gambling account.

I forget the name of the site my friend played on, but I remember he played on one of the local sites. That's where the casino's reputation really determines whether they are trusted enough or not. Because just imagine when we win big but the casino doesn't want to pay and even kicks us, even though we never did anything wrong.

This is only about online casinos where the casino will refuse to pay your money if you win. Perhaps your friend went to a casino in your area after winning and came back without money because he was kicked out of the casino. But if you have any experience that you have won a substantial amount of money by gambling in an online casino but that online casino company has refused to give you a share of your winnings. I think online casinos don't do this kind of thing if we can gamble in a trusted casino.

[$crypto$]

Well, they often cheat so that they don't pay the full winnings that their customers get, that's what will happen if we play at a casino that doesn't have a good reputation. Because I have never had anything problematic while I played at a well-known casino.

This is like my friend's story, he placed a lottery bet and he won. However, the winnings paid are lost by 30%. Even though there is no prior stipulation that they will deduct the winnings. It's quite strange but I saw it myself.

It's normal if there is a 30% cut. My father is a lottery addict and he has won quite a large amount compared to what he has won before. If it is a large amount there will be a cut from the organizer and the party where we placed the lottery, but my father doesn't care about it because for him his partner's money has doubled

Actually there is no problem when they win and they deduct a large amount, as long as they have said so or they have made provisions at the beginning. What happens is that they promise that winnings will be paid 100%, but when they win they are not consistent with what they said at the start.

If they make cuts and change the conditions for us to win, then that would be strange. Because they make rules which only benefit them, even though with a 30% cut we actually still get a profit.