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Title: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on March 22, 2024, 08:35:40 AM
I believe many of us are familiar with Dollar Cost Averaging, DCA but how about Smart DCA.

This thread is for discussion, and I am not concluding Smart DCA is actually Smart and better than DCA.  :D


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I wanted to remind you about the concept of Smart DCA, purchasing BTC during corrections, when the price drops below the 1W-1M Realized Price.

This strategy works well during a bull rally and is much more effective than classic DCA.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJHh9JSXkAAtqM_?format=jpg&name=900x900) (https://twitter.com/AxelAdlerJr/status/1770444575053656411)

A quick glance gives me that is a good strategy but if I look deeper, it is not actually smart.

By using Smart DCA, simply glance at it, we see entries are below 1W-1M Realized Price but we will miss days, weeks before price drops behind the Realize price (blue line) and miss chances to buy when price is even lower than the Green areas that are entries given by Smart DCA indicator.

Share your thinking about this strategy please.

Personally I see a traditional DCA strategy is better.


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Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 22, 2024, 01:45:54 PM
During the bear market, if the market has been in the downtrend for a long time and the price of bitcoin has fallen significantly. I can go for DCA. And I will be expecting more fall or price increases but I will continue to DCA.

If the market is increasing and and the market is in bullrun, I can go for smart DCA. Because no matter how significant the bullrun is, there are times that would be an abrupt price fall which will give opportunity to buy.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Rex067 on March 22, 2024, 04:55:19 PM
I believe many of us are familiar with Dollar Cost Averaging, DCA but how about Smart DCA.

This thread is for discussion, and I am not concluding Smart DCA is actually Smart and better than DCA.  :D

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I wanted to remind you about the concept of Smart DCA, purchasing BTC during corrections, when the price drops below the 1W-1M Realized Price.

This strategy works well during a bull rally and is much more effective than classic DCA.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJHh9JSXkAAtqM_?format=jpg&name=900x900) (https://twitter.com/AxelAdlerJr/status/1770444575053656411)

A quick glance gives me that is a good strategy but if I look deeper, it is not actually smart.

By using Smart DCA, simply glance at it, we see entries are below 1W-1M Realized Price but we will miss days, weeks before price drops behind the Realize price (blue line) and miss chances to buy when price is even lower than the Green areas that are entries given by Smart DCA indicator.

Share your thinking about this strategy please.

Personally I see a traditional DCA strategy is better.


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I will prefer the S-DCA , both strategies that can be used to invest in cryptocurrency over time . With the S-DCA , you are going to use algorithm and technical indicators for you to determine the optimal time to invest. In all S-DCA seen as more sophisticated approach that helps you minimize the risk involved and maximize returns. It's very important to know both strategies come with risks and there no guarantee for profits.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Lucius on March 22, 2024, 05:55:38 PM
I think that the DCA method is good for those who want to invest in Bitcoin without thinking too much about the price, and there is no doubt that it pays off in the long run. However, for those who understand the cycles and cryptocurrency markets a little better and also have a larger amount of money, it is definitely better to buy larger amounts of BTC when we are in a bear market and the price is at least 50% lower than the last ATH - and for those who are braver, it is worth waiting for the price which is at least 70% lower.

For me personally, every investment method is good, only some methods are far better than others - I personally prefer investing exclusively in periods when the price is the lowest compared to the last ATH.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: KingsDen on March 22, 2024, 07:28:42 PM
The problem with the smart DCA of a thing is timing and inconsistency:
Timing: You will probably not know when the market has corrected well in order to buy and besides you can miss many corrections. Having to keep up will make you always check the price or set a particular buy price which might not trigger.
Inconsistency: The DCA might lose it's consistency in investment because you might miss a week or more waiting for bear because the bull is still on.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: yhiaali3 on March 22, 2024, 08:51:08 PM
I also find that the traditional DCA strategy is better. I've heard of smart DCA before but I still prefer the traditional method of manual assembly at low times.

Smart DCA may be appropriate in some cases, but not always, in addition to the reasons mentioned above. For example, I decide to buy at certain times of the week or month when I have sufficient liquidity to do so, so it is difficult for this strategy to work for me.

It simply means that I choose to buy at times that suit me, whether in terms of low price or availability of liquidity.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on March 23, 2024, 01:42:42 PM
During the bear market, if the market has been in the downtrend for a long time and the price of bitcoin has fallen significantly. I can go for DCA. And I will be expecting more fall or price increases but I will continue to DCA.
DCA works for both markets as it is for long term accumulation and investment. It does not consider the market is bearish or bullish, just buying regularly on your investment schedule with similar capital value for each DCA time.


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If the market is increasing and and the market is in bullrun, I can go for smart DCA. Because no matter how significant the bullrun is, there are times that would be an abrupt price fall which will give opportunity to buy.

I will prefer the S-DCA , both strategies that can be used to invest in cryptocurrency over time . With the S-DCA , you are going to use algorithm and technical indicators for you to determine the optimal time to invest. In all S-DCA seen as more sophisticated approach that helps you minimize the risk involved and maximize returns. It's very important to know both strategies come with risks and there no guarantee for profits.
Smart DCA is an indicator to help investors to outsmart the market. They want to wait for indicator to buy in, but does it worth?

I don't know but I see it depends on each person and their own characteristics and available capital for investment. If they have enough patience to wait for green light from Smart DCA indicator, and they have available capital for investment, Smart DCA can work well for them, especially in bull market with some big dips along the way to its peak.

If the person is impatient, this strategy does not work well.

Smart DCA also requires an investor to be very disciplined, first for waiting patiently for the Smart DCA signal, second for saving money and wait for chances to Smart DCA purchase.

I think that the DCA method is good for those who want to invest in Bitcoin without thinking too much about the price, and there is no doubt that it pays off in the long run.
With classic DCA, no headache. An investor only needs to do research about Bitcoin, understand about its technology, has belief in Bitcoin, and do DCA.

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However, for those who understand the cycles and cryptocurrency markets a little better and also have a larger amount of money, it is definitely better to buy larger amounts of BTC when we are in a bear market and the price is at least 50% lower than the last ATH - and for those who are braver, it is worth waiting for the price which is at least 70% lower.
With Smart DCA, it requires more as aforementioned and you are right that knowledge about Bitcoin past cycles is another factor that is helpful to apply this strategy.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 23, 2024, 02:30:54 PM
I still prefer using the traditional way of DCAing my Bitcoins because it doesn't need for me to learn technical analysis and any other complicated techniques that will keep my eye on the screen for hours. This is what caused stress to me a few years back so I will stick to the traditional one from now onwards.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 23, 2024, 03:16:43 PM
I was aware of the smart DCA method before but did not come up with some term to call it, so it's a small DCA. Well, both have their own use cases in separate situations and in my view, there are no restrictions in using one strategy in place of another. For example, we can do smart DCA even in the bearish run and can do DCA in a bull run. I don't think there are any restrictions on it.

Everyone has their own way of accumulating BTC, well but generally the efficient one would be using both at any time (bull or bear) no limits should be made on these. Because overall our purpose is to accumulate more and more, and we can only achieve this when we have good knowledge about market, if not then DCA (simple) would do the work.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on March 24, 2024, 04:00:22 AM
I was aware of the smart DCA method before but did not come up with some term to call it, so it's a small DCA. Well, both have their own use cases in separate situations and in my view, there are no restrictions in using one strategy in place of another. For example, we can do smart DCA even in the bearish run and can do DCA in a bull run. I don't think there are any restrictions on it.
If people want to do DCA smartly but only base on their thinking and don't have any reliable indicator to use, they might have bad practice than Traditional DCA.

It's the point and use case of this Smart DCA indicator. Perhaps this indicator is useful for people who want to do Smart DCA for their investment. The bottom line is whether this Smart DCA indicator is reliable enough.

I still prefer using the traditional way of DCAing my Bitcoins because it doesn't need for me to learn technical analysis and any other complicated techniques that will keep my eye on the screen for hours. This is what caused stress to me a few years back so I will stick to the traditional one from now onwards.
If you consider this Smart DCA indicator is reliable, you can use it without much own work for technical analysis. Because the author already did the hard work for you and the indicator is public to use.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Power420 on March 24, 2024, 10:55:09 AM
Bitcoin prices and a number of other digital assets have grown significantly in value during the last decade. Some people have made millions and even billions throwing down everything they have during the cryptocurrency’s earliest days of price discovery. However, there’s another method of investing called dollar-cost averaging or DCA, a scheme that’s considered far less risky and can still bring a cryptocurrency investor decent profits over the long term.

Ever since bitcoin jumped over the crypto asset’s all-time high (ATH) recorded in 2017, the digital currency has continued to gather a higher value after surpassing the $20k zone. Then bitcoin (BTC) tapped a new ATH ten days ago, after the crypto asset jumped over the $42k range.

Source link: https://news.bitcoin.com/dollar-cost-averaging-crypto-profits-low-risk-bitcoin-investing-without-all-the-stress/
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: notblox1 on March 24, 2024, 08:04:25 PM
Can I propose something better?
I think SCDA is smartest way of getting bitcoin, this is Signature Campaign Dollar Averaging so I am choosing this ;D
This is weekly receiving bitcoin and I am not spending any dollars, but I am investing my time in forum.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Google+ on March 24, 2024, 08:14:47 PM
I still prefer using the traditional way of DCAing my Bitcoins because it doesn't need for me to learn technical analysis and any other complicated techniques that will keep my eye on the screen for hours. This is what caused stress to me a few years back so I will stick to the traditional one from now onwards.
Learning too many market analysis techniques will actually make us even more confused because as far as I know cryptocurrency price movements are not easy to predict, sometimes what has been predicted is at that price but when there is bad news everything just collapses and doesn't match the price. analysis results.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on March 27, 2024, 03:14:01 AM
Can I propose something better?
I think SCDA is smartest way of getting bitcoin, this is Signature Campaign Dollar Averaging so I am choosing this ;D
This is weekly receiving bitcoin and I am not spending any dollars, but I am investing my time in forum.
This is Traditional DCA. You accumulate bitcoins on regular basis, with assumption that your job with signature campaign is stable and you don't have too long break time for signature campaign participation and salary. What you are saying is not different than Traditional DCA, and you just describe exactly what your investment capital comes from, through signature campaign payments.

It is not kind of Smart DCA.

Learning too many market analysis techniques will actually make us even more confused because as far as I know cryptocurrency price movements are not easy to predict, sometimes what has been predicted is at that price but when there is bad news everything just collapses and doesn't match the price. analysis results.
This is why intelligent investors choose DCA. They are smart because with DCA, they will be able to enjoy their life. They invest to live, not live to invest and if they can find a good investment strategy that does not make them headache, it's good. Traditional DCA strategy can help them to achieve both, wealth and healthier, happier life.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: SamReomo on March 27, 2024, 08:49:12 PM
In my eyes, the DCA strategy combined with DIP accumulation is the best way for sure profits. We all know that when we do DCA then we need to invest fixed amount on either weekly or monthly basis.

But with DCA+DIP accumulation we keep that fixed amount of a week or month at a side and wait for the DIP to take place and when we see the DIP then we utilize that amount for DCAying.

That's the best way for long-term profits I believe and the ones who haven't tried it yet should give it a try.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: notblox1 on March 27, 2024, 09:10:04 PM
This is Traditional DCA. You accumulate bitcoins on regular basis, with assumption that your job with signature campaign is stable and you don't have too long break time for signature campaign participation and salary. What you are saying is not different than Traditional DCA, and you just describe exactly what your investment capital comes from, through signature campaign payments.
It is not the same thing because I never touched the dollars, so by definition it cant be called dollar cost averaging  ;D
I can also spend coins when I need to do it and I dont have to worry about spending the same amount of money to buy bitcoin.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on March 28, 2024, 11:55:00 AM
It is not the same thing because I never touched the dollars, so by definition it cant be called dollar cost averaging  ;D
I can also spend coins when I need to do it and I dont have to worry about spending the same amount of money to buy bitcoin.
I disagree.

Assume you receive $100 /week from your signature campaign payment. You will have two ways to DCA, buying Bitcoin with cash or stablecoin. Another way is receiving it directly with your signature campaign payment. The second way, you disagree with me but what will happen if you receive your signature campaign payment in $ or in altcoins. You will have convert it to Bitcoin and it is DCA, just different in middle steps.

In my eyes, the DCA strategy combined with DIP accumulation is the best way for sure profits.
Nothing surely brings profit too you. You will get profit or loss, with same entry for DCA, if your time to stay in the market is longer or shorter, that leads to different exit time and price.

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But with DCA+DIP accumulation we keep that fixed amount of a week or month at a side and wait for the DIP to take place and when we see the DIP then we utilize that amount for DCAying.
This is one of Smart DCA's disadvantages. It's challenging to keep your money for weeks, months intact and don't use it for other things than investment in Bitcoin.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 28, 2024, 08:32:26 PM
If people want to do DCA smartly but only base on their thinking and don't have any reliable indicator to use, they might have bad practice than Traditional DCA.

It's the point and use case of this Smart DCA indicator. Perhaps this indicator is useful for people who want to do Smart DCA for their investment. The bottom line is whether this Smart DCA indicator is reliable enough.
So you are saying there is a Smart DCA indicator, or we have to use it with some indicator, like what? Do you have any in mind, for example, I would use 4 EMA lines to make support and resistances, and if want to do DCA then I could use those lines (Resistances and support made by 4EMA) as buying and selling points. I can even extend the date, from 1 day to 1 Week if the selected coins is not new.

Although I won't say its the most reliable Indicator to do Smart DCA, BTW you are saying we don't use any kind of indicator with traditional (so called by you) DCA. As, I TBH used the indicators I mostly use to do DCA as well but not so much as most of my DCA is in BTC and I don't do DCA in BTC using any indicators but in alts I do.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 29, 2024, 06:38:04 PM
DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) method is one of the most effective investment strategies for investing. In this investment strategy generally an investor can invest as per his wish based on his own income. An investor feels very stress free in this investment method as there is no need to accumulate a lot of money in this investment method as in this method one gets the opportunity to invest based on one's income whenever he wants. A low income person can invest in this investment method as well as a high income person can consistently invest in this method. I myself currently follow the DCA investment method in investing and I definitely find this strategy to be the best strategy.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Power420 on March 29, 2024, 11:44:37 PM
What is Dollar Cost Averaging Bitcoin?
Bitcoin dollar cost averaging consists in investing a fixed amount of USD, into BTC, on regular time intervals. You’ll often see it referenced by its abbreviation of "DCA".

Purchasing $10 every week, for example, would be dollar cost averaging.

This strategy is mostly used by investors that are looking to purchase Bitcoin for the long-term, since it protects them from potentially allocating all their capital at a price peak.

Investing in Bitcoin with no DCA (Example)
It’s January 1st, 2018, and John decides to purchase $5,000 worth of Bitcoin today.

The Bitcoin price at the time was $13,800 per coin, which means that John now owns 0.362 BTC.

Investing in Bitcoin using DCA (Example)
It’s January 1st, 2018, and Alice decides she wants to purchase $5,000 worth of Bitcoin.

However, instead of investing the entire amount today, she decides to purchase $500 every month, for 10 months.

10 months later, Alice owns 0.61 BTC. That’s allmost twice as much as John, even though both invested the same amount.


Source link: https://dcabtc.com/?sd=2016-03-23&sda=8_years&f=weekly&d=8_years&ac=25000&c=true
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on April 01, 2024, 04:01:48 AM
So you are saying there is a Smart DCA indicator, or we have to use it with some indicator, like what? Do you have any in mind, for example, I would use 4 EMA lines to make support and resistances, and if want to do DCA then I could use those lines (Resistances and support made by 4EMA) as buying and selling points. I can even extend the date, from 1 day to 1 Week if the selected coins is not new.

Although I won't say its the most reliable Indicator to do Smart DCA, BTW you are saying we don't use any kind of indicator with traditional (so called by you) DCA. As, I TBH used the indicators I mostly use to do DCA as well but not so much as most of my DCA is in BTC and I don't do DCA in BTC using any indicators but in alts I do.
You can use whatever indicator you want if you intend to do customized DCA. You can call it as whatever you want, Smart DCA, Customized DCA, Personalized DCA but the bottom line, it is no longer a Traditional (Classic) DCA.

You need to add some inputs to time the market, and your waiting time between two entries will be not at a fixed regular basis. You can invest after 1 month, 3 months or 6 months, because basically with Smart/ Customized/ Personalized DCA, you are timing the market and find best entries with some indicators that are best in your view.

I also didn't say Smart DCA is better than Traditional DCA.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on April 01, 2024, 09:10:39 AM
Can I propose something better?
I think SCDA is smartest way of getting bitcoin, this is Signature Campaign Dollar Averaging so I am choosing this ;D
This is weekly receiving bitcoin and I am not spending any dollars, but I am investing my time in forum.

I have been doing that for a year, and I am glad I decided not to spend all my signature earnings. If someone can save their entire signature earnings, that is good. But, if they cannot, they should save at least half of it. Some locals asked when I had invested and how much my buying price was. The simple answer is that I never bought BTC for holding purposes. All the BTC and altcoins I have now are Signature earnings from the other forum.

As for classic DCA and SDCA, I guess the classic one is better. Just increase the amount during the dip market and decrease when it's pumped. That is what I think. 
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on April 02, 2024, 11:22:42 AM
DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) method is one of the most effective investment strategies for investing. In this investment strategy generally an investor can invest as per his wish based on his own income. An investor feels very stress free in this investment method as there is no need to accumulate a lot of money in this investment method as in this method one gets the opportunity to invest based on one's income whenever he wants. A low income person can invest in this investment method as well as a high income person can consistently invest in this method. I myself currently follow the DCA investment method in investing and I definitely find this strategy to be the best strategy.
According to my personal observations, this strategy is not always profitable on the distance. Therefore, it is necessary to be extremely careful. Not everything works the way we would like it to. Especially, this strategy cannot work properly, when the price of bitcoin (the whole cryptocurrency) has already given hundreds of % returns, over the last year.

P.S. It is best (as for me) to divide the deposit into several parts (2-4) and invest when the price gave -40-50% of its maximum. Not every month/week etc.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: tranthidung on April 03, 2024, 11:48:48 AM
I have been doing that for a year, and I am glad I decided not to spend all my signature earnings. If someone can save their entire signature earnings, that is good. But, if they cannot, they should save at least half of it. Some locals asked when I had invested and how much my buying price was. The simple answer is that I never bought BTC for holding purposes. All the BTC and altcoins I have now are Signature earnings from the other forum.
Congratulations for your good savings in bitcoins.

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As for classic DCA and SDCA, I guess the classic one is better. Just increase the amount during the dip market and decrease when it's pumped. That is what I think.
By bringing this topic, I only wanted to bring something I discovered, new to everyone but as I noted, Classic (Traditional) DCA is better for most of us. For people who can use Smart DCA better, go ahead with it.

According to my personal observations, this strategy is not always profitable on the distance. Therefore, it is necessary to be extremely careful. Not everything works the way we would like it to. Especially, this strategy cannot work properly, when the price of bitcoin (the whole cryptocurrency) has already given hundreds of % returns, over the last year.
By applying Smart DCA, you might miss lower prices, better entries but with Smart DCA, you buy dips and can get profit quickly.

It is good strategy in a bull market but in bear market, if you don't have enough experience, you can buy dips and hold, so end with loss with time before the market starts its recovery from bottom.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 03, 2024, 01:18:04 PM
According to my personal observations, this strategy is not always profitable on the distance. Therefore, it is necessary to be extremely careful. Not everything works the way we would like it to. Especially, this strategy cannot work properly, when the price of bitcoin (the whole cryptocurrency) has already given hundreds of % returns, over the last year.
By applying Smart DCA, you might miss lower prices, better entries but with Smart DCA, you buy dips and can get profit quickly.

It is good strategy in a bull market but in bear market, if you don't have enough experience, you can buy dips and hold, so end with loss with time before the market starts its recovery from bottom.
For me, the concept is more like doing a short trade in spot position. Especially, the main goal is not to invest at the bottom, but to invest by waiting for the price to pull back, right?

This can indeed give a quick profit, an opportunity for late investors who want to buy at the dip, (not at the very bottom price) but can still make a profit when being done successfully.

This strategy requires enough experience and knowledge compared to traditional DCA. If we recall the previous pullbacks in the past ATH, this has been one of the errors for some people, they ended up purchasing at the peak as they thought of the upcoming bear price to a simple pullback.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 03, 2024, 03:40:09 PM
I don't get my head screwed on and I don't try to be 'smart' by getting the dips right. As I commented in another thread recently on my local forum, the problem with dips is that you don't know if it's really a dip and the price is going to recover, or you're buying when the price is still going to go much lower. The author seems to have found a system with:

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purchasing BTC during corrections, when the price drops below the 1W-1M Realized Price.

But that works until it stops working, such as the regularities we saw in the past bitcoin history, which suggested for example that in this cycle the price peak would have been much higher, until we saw that in this cycle that regularity did not hold true.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: SmartGold01 on April 03, 2024, 04:50:00 PM
Looking from the Smart DCA, there is no different between the usual DCA and smart DCA they mostly function the same, the is that it depends on the investor or the trader who is doing it.
When DCA'ing you may decides to enter the market at your convenient, Smart DCA is just like acting quickly before one missed the market at the a good taking and entries points.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on April 04, 2024, 08:31:35 AM
By bringing this topic, I only wanted to bring something I discovered, new to everyone but as I noted, Classic (Traditional) DCA is better for most of us. For people who can use Smart DCA better, go ahead with it.

I feel it's impossible to predict when these green-spotted times will come. Even if it's the green-spotted time, how do I know it won't go down further? I will be confused. Should I wait for more to dump it, and then will I have the perfect time to buy? This is one of the reasons I think SDCA is bad for me. I am speaking for myself only.

This is similar to a person waiting to buy and looking for the dip market, but he never knows if it will go down or it will go up again. To not be situation like this, we use DCA method. Now smart DCA brings back the same problem. LOL.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 04, 2024, 04:01:05 PM
By bringing this topic, I only wanted to bring something I discovered, new to everyone but as I noted, Classic (Traditional) DCA is better for most of us. For people who can use Smart DCA better, go ahead with it.

I feel it's impossible to predict when these green-spotted times will come. Even if it's the green-spotted time, how do I know it won't go down further? I will be confused. Should I wait for more to dump it, and then will I have the perfect time to buy? This is one of the reasons I think SDCA is bad for me. I am speaking for myself only.

This is similar to a person waiting to buy and looking for the dip market, but he never knows if it will go down or it will go up again. To not be situation like this, we use DCA method. Now smart DCA brings back the same problem. LOL.
That is why I always prefer the traditional DCA thing because it will just complicate if I had to use another strategy that I am not familiar with. I want a less stress investment that is why I chose to DCA so other than that I should make an intensive research before using so I won't end up doing it wrong.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on April 04, 2024, 05:12:18 PM
For me, the concept is more like doing a short trade in spot position. Especially, the main goal is not to invest at the bottom, but to invest by waiting for the price to pull back, right?
If you look at the chart (screenshot and live one on the given dashboard), you will see it is not a quick trade because when Smart DCA gives you a green light, it usually lasts for a while long time.

I don't get my head screwed on and I don't try to be 'smart' by getting the dips right. As I commented in another thread recently on my local forum, the problem with dips is that you don't know if it's really a dip and the price is going to recover, or you're buying when the price is still going to go much lower. The author seems to have found a system with:
Because, here we are talking about Bitcoin, the strongest one in cryptocurrency market, and because we believe it will survive, make higher highs with time. Buying any dip of Bitcoin, with an investment plan for long term, is never bad idea.

If buying dip for a quick trade, it can be wrong sometimes but even quick trade, most of time, we can get profit too but it's not a point of this topic - that is for investment, not trading.

I feel it's impossible to predict when these green-spotted times will come. Even if it's the green-spotted time, how do I know it won't go down further? I will be confused. Should I wait for more to dump it, and then will I have the perfect time to buy? This is one of the reasons I think SDCA is bad for me. I am speaking for myself only.
Visit the dashboard, given link is at OP, but you must have an account on Crypto Quant, to see that SDCA indicator. Assume you consider it is a good indicator, you can get access to it, freely, and can use it too.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on April 06, 2024, 12:47:43 PM
That is why I always prefer the traditional DCA thing because it will just complicate if I had to use another strategy that I am not familiar with. I want a less stress investment that is why I chose to DCA so other than that I should make an intensive research before using so I won't end up doing it wrong.

Same here. I am not a person who can do a lot of research about the market movement. DCA is for people who do not understand or cannot predict the market well, they can easily use DCA to continue investing without doing too much research. If you are sure that you want to invest in Bitcoin, that is the only thing you should be sure of from your side.

I don't have time to check the chart and wait for a dip market and place an order. If I want to invest in Bitcoin, I will surely choose classic DCA and invest. But for now, I am not doing it. My Signature payment is doing the DCA well for me.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: Thyplaymaker on April 06, 2024, 02:08:20 PM
That is why I always prefer the traditional DCA thing because it will just complicate if I had to use another strategy that I am not familiar with. I want a less stress investment that is why I chose to DCA so other than that I should make an intensive research before using so I won't end up doing it wrong.

Same here. I am not a person who can do a lot of research about the market movement. DCA is for people who do not understand or cannot predict the market well, they can easily use DCA to continue investing without doing too much research. If you are sure that you want to invest in Bitcoin, that is the only thing you should be sure of from your side.

I don't have time to check the chart and wait for a dip market and place an order. If I want to invest in Bitcoin, I will surely choose classic DCA and invest. But for now, I am not doing it. My Signature payment is doing the DCA well for me.
exactly normal DCA is more preferable to me , I don't have to analyse the market before buying all I just have to do is keep purchasing more Bitcoin either weekly or monthly, and just as you said our campaign has been playing a nice role in that area . For those that are new to this space they should just stick with regular DCAing . To avoid any form of complexity.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: vegasus on April 06, 2024, 10:06:54 PM
I believe many of us are familiar with Dollar Cost Averaging, DCA but how about Smart DCA.

This thread is for discussion, and I am not concluding Smart DCA is actually Smart and better than DCA.  :D
I think, there is only DCA, even there's also Smart DCA?  ;D
DCA is simpler, the ways and also the term. I basically have been comfortable with DCA system to  be done for investment. SO, not really think again what other terms, like Smart DCA   :D

exactly normal DCA is more preferable to me , I don't have to analyse the market before buying all I just have to do is keep purchasing more Bitcoin either weekly or monthly, and just as you said our campaign has been playing a nice role in that area . For those that are new to this space they should just stick with regular DCAing . To avoid any form of complexity.
The only problem for me when doing DCA was when I ran out of capital or money to buy when the price dropped again, because I had only bought it a few days ago. Like that. Although actually I can do it again later so I will get Bitcoin accumulation again. However, sometimes you feel annoyed when the price drops but running  out of capital.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on April 08, 2024, 08:57:39 AM
For me, the concept is more like doing a short trade in spot position. Especially, the main goal is not to invest at the bottom, but to invest by waiting for the price to pull back, right?

This can indeed give a quick profit, an opportunity for late investors who want to buy at the dip, (not at the very bottom price) but can still make a profit when being done successfully.

This strategy requires enough experience and knowledge compared to traditional DCA. If we recall the previous pullbacks in the past ATH, this has been one of the errors for some people, they ended up purchasing at the peak as they thought of the upcoming bear price to a simple pullback.
If you look at it in the short term, it's probably okay. If you were talking about the long term, mine is a little different, in this respect. The experience of investing has shown that this strategy does not bring a large % to the deposit. Still, it is much easier to allocate 2-4 times (the right amount) and when the price gave -30-50% to buy the asset you need.

P.S. Considering risk management, of course. Without it, there is absolutely nowhere to go. + Try (if possible) not to give in to emotions.  ;)
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on April 08, 2024, 03:09:53 PM
I think, there is only DCA, even there's also Smart DCA?  ;D
DCA is simpler, the ways and also the term. I basically have been comfortable with DCA system to  be done for investment. SO, not really think again what other terms, like Smart DCA   :D
I said multiple times in this thread, that I see Traditional DCA is better for many people, if not all.

However, there are people and times to do things to maximize DCA and we can call it as Smart DCA efforts. What methods they use to support Traditional DCA, to come with Smart DCA, I don't know.

In this thread, I only shared that Dashboard, with signal for Smart DCA. It's free to watch and use as an extra tool for your investment. I don't recommend anyone to choose Smart DCA for their investment, it's their money, they have to make own decisions.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: Sim_card on April 08, 2024, 05:11:18 PM
I think, there is only DCA, even there's also Smart DCA?  ;D
DCA is simpler, the ways and also the term. I basically have been comfortable with DCA system to  be done for investment. SO, not really think again what other terms, like Smart DCA   :D
I said multiple times in this thread, that I see Traditional DCA is better for many people, if not all.

However, there are people and times to do things to maximize DCA and we can call it as Smart DCA efforts. What methods they use to support Traditional DCA, to come with Smart DCA, I don't know.

In this thread, I only shared that Dashboard, with signal for Smart DCA. It's free to watch and use as an extra tool for your investment. I don't recommend anyone to choose Smart DCA for their investment, it's their money, they have to make own decisions.
I understand what you mean OP, and I must say that it is the first time I have heard of smart DCA, which I saw from the OP. The smart DCA is much stressful compared to the tradition DCA that you will just allocate some certain amount of money to buy regularly either weekly or monthly. This is because one cannot time the market, and how sure are we when the dips will come.
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 08, 2024, 05:18:04 PM
I think, there is only DCA, even there's also Smart DCA?  ;D
DCA is simpler, the ways and also the term. I basically have been comfortable with DCA system to  be done for investment. SO, not really think again what other terms, like Smart DCA   :D
I said multiple times in this thread, that I see Traditional DCA is better for many people, if not all.

However, there are people and times to do things to maximize DCA and we can call it as Smart DCA efforts. What methods they use to support Traditional DCA, to come with Smart DCA, I don't know.

In this thread, I only shared that Dashboard, with signal for Smart DCA. It's free to watch and use as an extra tool for your investment. I don't recommend anyone to choose Smart DCA for their investment, it's their money, they have to make own decisions.
I understand what you mean OP, and I must say that it is the first time I have heard of smart DCA, which I saw from the OP. The smart DCA is much stressful compared to the tradition DCA that you will just allocate some certain amount of money to buy regularly either weekly or monthly. This is because one cannot time the market, and how sure are we when the dips will come.

I combine both and over the time period I actually practice the purchases I did 52 weekly buys of btc. call it 52x

and I did about 25x in smart buys.  So lets call in 77x all between 16k and 33k
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
Post by: tranthidung on April 09, 2024, 02:50:55 PM
I understand what you mean OP, and I must say that it is the first time I have heard of smart DCA, which I saw from the OP. The smart DCA is much stressful compared to the tradition DCA that you will just allocate some certain amount of money to buy regularly either weekly or monthly. This is because one cannot time the market, and how sure are we when the dips will come.
People actually try to do Smart DCA, not all but many people do it practically.

They just don't call it as they are doing Smart DCA, but DCA because it is normally said. They can do Smart DCA with indicators like the one given in OP or just wait for a dip within a month to DCA smartly.

If you read my posts above, you will see Smart DCA does not always give you better entry than Traditional DCA. Assume Bitcoin goes up since a first day of a month, then at a 20th day of that month, it already moves up 30%, a dip like 15% won't give you a better entry than an entry with Traditional DCA at a first day of that month. Sometimes, it helps, sometimes it don't.  :)
Title: Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose? 01719
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 10, 2024, 12:01:58 AM
That is why I always prefer the traditional DCA thing because it will just complicate if I had to use another strategy that I am not familiar with. I want a less stress investment that is why I chose to DCA so other than that I should make an intensive research before using so I won't end up doing it wrong.

Same here. I am not a person who can do a lot of research about the market movement. DCA is for people who do not understand or cannot predict the market well, they can easily use DCA to continue investing without doing too much research. If you are sure that you want to invest in Bitcoin, that is the only thing you should be sure of from your side.

I don't have time to check the chart and wait for a dip market and place an order. If I want to invest in Bitcoin, I will surely choose classic DCA and invest. But for now, I am not doing it. My Signature payment is doing the DCA well for me.
exactly normal DCA is more preferable to me , I don't have to analyse the market before buying all I just have to do is keep purchasing more Bitcoin either weekly or monthly, and just as you said our campaign has been playing a nice role in that area . For those that are new to this space they should just stick with regular DCAing . To avoid any form of complexity.
Simplicity at its highest. The normal DCA strategy is what every Bitcoin enthusiast that don't needs too much stress would resort to. The act of buying small amount of Bitcoin on a steady without much calculation and watch over the market price is the simplest way to avoid any unnecessary situations and agitation over the price of the market because some persons can get really skeptical when their start observing changes in the market and can even make them resort to wrong choices so sticking with the DCA strategy that's well planned is probably best for both newbie and professional investor.