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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2024, 11:59:09 PM »
I do not agree with what you have written above, holding is not a risk-free kind of investment. Anything called investment has some degree of risk and especially cryptocurrency investment is all about to risk. I don't think that there is anything that is risk-free in cryptocurrency industry
It is true that any investment has a risk. There is no investment with no risk, especially for crypto investment. People who think crypto investment is free of risk, they probably don't understand about the potential risks. They may never experience to get losses, so they don't know if it is risky.  ;D

You can just say that trading is risker than holding and I will consider if yo believe you. Why I say so is that it is not absolutely proven that Holding is less risky than trading.
It depends on the individual. Trading can be riskier or safer.
If we use a proper strategy and choose top coins, it can be quite safe to trade. Although we fail to take profits, we can hold it and wait for the altcoins season. But when we choose the wrong coins for investment, it can be very risky because they can be delisted on the exchanges. So, both have risks.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2024, 02:33:51 AM »
Literally, you can earn more profit in trading than holding because it uses leverage. But trading is more risky, the higher the leverage the higher the risk. That's one of the disadvantages in trading, that's why most people loses a lot instead of making profit. Imagine, if you could only have an edge in trading you can earn a high percentage of your capital in just a couple of hours while holding needs to wait for weeks or months. Unfortunately, people that hold tokens are the ones who made profit in the end.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2024, 06:56:44 AM »
It depends on the individual. Trading can be riskier or safer.
If we use a proper strategy and choose top coins, it can be quite safe to trade. Although we fail to take profits, we can hold it and wait for the altcoins season. But when we choose the wrong coins for investment, it can be very risky because they can be delisted on the exchanges. So, both have risks.

You are not wrong at all, but in comparison using the same coins, trading is far riskier. You will see a volatile coin that can move up or down two times of his price within short time and those exchanges will make the leverage of 25 time possible with the coins. This is just the reason some traders are failing while trading. If a good coin like bitcoin is compared between holding and trading, trading is riskier.

Secondly is that it is not about exchanges deleting the coins that makes the coins to be risky in the first place, it is how volatile they are. Some will not reach all-time-high and some will become a shit coin. And they are highly volatile. I can see some coins on exchanges that their all-time-high was in 2019 and not increasing up to that even till now. It is good to avoid most altcoins because of the volatility that make them looks like gambling.
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2024, 08:29:12 PM »
We all know trading is a risky business where you can lose money just because of market volatility. None of us can tell when market volatility will start and you will lose your money, that's why it is better to avoid such trading. Although nowadays most of the people are involved in trading business and they do this trade constantly hoping for high profit but it is the highest risk and people lose a lot of money here so trading is not a risk free trade at all.
No risk, no gain. Many people come into the crypto community and choose to be on two parts of it, which are both the day trading and the holding aspect of it. When you are into trading, you can make a profit in a short period of time, which also comes with great risk, like you have said, but the thing is, it's not every time that we need to just hold and wait for the market to hit our target. Sometimes I too am involved in trading.
 
When you know how to enter the market and which coin is best for you to buy, it's important for you to buy and trade within a short period of time, as not all coins are worth holding for long; some coins are just there for quick profit, so let them be.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2024, 08:35:18 PM »
We all know trading is a risky business where you can lose money just because of market volatility. None of us can tell when market volatility will start and you will lose your money, that's why it is better to avoid such trading. Although nowadays most of the people are involved in trading business and they do this trade constantly hoping for high profit but it is the highest risk and people lose a lot of money here so trading is not a risk free trade at all.
No risk, no gain. Many people come into the crypto community and choose to be on two parts of it, which are both the day trading and the holding aspect of it. When you are into trading, you can make a profit in a short period of time, which also comes with great risk, like you have said, but the thing is, it's not every time that we need to just hold and wait for the market to hit our target. Sometimes I too am involved in trading.
 
When you know how to enter the market and which coin is best for you to buy, it's important for you to buy and trade within a short period of time, as not all coins are worth holding for long; some coins are just there for quick profit, so let them be.

It is difficult to establish things within the framework of the profits that can be obtained in a range of investment and in a range of market speculation, the good thing about market speculation is that action or currency the person does not make it his favorite or take affection for him, because if he does things will turn out very badly for him, they would go to a land where basically things would be very bad, because if he gets attached to coins then he has to accept his fdesigns, whether if he loses or if he wins , I can't do much, in market speculation it's different, if the currency goes up you win in LONG , If the currency falls in price then you win in shrot and possibly leveraged, things are like that in crypto, we must do things well planned so that they turn out or try to turn out well, otherwise, there is no other way to lose.

Investment is good, but knowing how to have enough patience, if we have patience, well hodliong is our thing, but if we are very active people, it is recommended to do both things, with trading and investment.
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2024, 09:06:15 PM »
Hodling is a risk free and profitable business where people get high returns. When you hodl, you definitely leave an asset for the future from which you can earn a lot of money.
We don't get high return always in holding, sometimes we get profit lesser than our anticipation, but still holding is much better than trading because in trading we always have to remain sharper and have to perform technical and fundamental analysis and even after doing them we have to keep an eye on the market and have to check the news and market again and again so we could make move accordingly.

This whole work in trading is so tiresome but in holdings or long term investments we don't have to face these problems but many newbies face these because they see the news again and again and fell to FOMO and FUD time to time and make moves accordingly and at the end they find themselves out of the market even before taking the profit that they were expecting.
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2024, 10:59:31 PM »
Hodling is a risk free and profitable business where people get high returns. When you hodl, you definitely leave an asset for the future from which you can earn a lot of money.
We don't get high return always in holding, sometimes we get profit lesser than our anticipation, but still holding is much better than trading because in trading we always have to remain sharper and have to perform technical and fundamental analysis and even after doing them we have to keep an eye on the market and have to check the news and market again and again so we could make move accordingly.
In fact, there is nothing risk-free in this crypto business, even though it is holding, there will certainly still be risks, but perhaps the risks are not as high as when we trade. and I agree with your statement regarding holding does not always provide high profits because it usually depends on the period of time we hold, including what coins we hold. So this goes back to what our strategy for holding is like. Moreover, the coin that we are holding is indeed a coin that has potential for the future, so it will most likely give us a decent profit.

However, if we hold new coins, memecoins or hype coins, this might be quite risky, because not all coins can survive in the market for a long period of time. So we also have to be careful in choosing what coins will be worth holding. One of them is definitely Bitcoin as the main investment for holding. and maybe some altcoins that might have quite potential and of course in my opinion they are definitely top coins. although it doesn't guarantee that all top coins will survive forever. Yes, we must continue to monitor market movements and various issues regarding crypto.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2024, 03:18:27 AM »
We all know trading is a risky business where you can lose money just because of market volatility.

You will not loss single penny if you::
 go for spot trading
 trade in top coins
have extra fund for another trade if dump happened
Using a good trading strategy

None of us can tell when market volatility will start and you will lose your money, that's why it is better to avoid such trading. Although nowadays most of the people are involved in trading business and they do this trade constantly hoping for high profit but it is the highest risk and people lose a lot of money here so trading is not a risk free trade at all.

Only panic sellers, don't following trading basics rules losing while other all are making 10x more than holders.
Hodling is a risk free and profitable business where people get high returns.
First time I heard that any investment is risk free. What happened to those who holding Luna and Ftx, purchased btc and others tokens at peak price? how much they made?

When you hodl, you definitely leave an asset for the future from which you can earn a lot of money. Whereas trading is risky but hodling is never risky it always leads a user to higher profits. We know hodl is gold so when you start holding your plan will be higher where you will get huge amount of income. So you refrain from trading and hold for a long time which will give you huge returns, of course you use a secure wallet.

I concluded after reading full thread that you have zero knowledge of trading and  You have been intimidated by someone for trading in crypto and that's all
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2024, 04:34:32 AM »
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You cannot take one side of the scale, the simple fact of trading is a benefit for the crypto ecosystem, it is in fact fundamental, and fortunately it is so.

You cannot see hodl as the safe solution to investment, in fact a couple of years ago we had the $20k deficit, and today we can have a profitability of +2x, it costs a lot of "pain" to do hodl and eventually it must be planned well.

If you think that doing Hodl is easy, tell me what your plan is, when you are going to sell, hodl is not eternal, you have to execute the sales action at some point, and waiting for the profit you want can surely take years.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2024, 09:23:15 AM »
I do not agree with what you have written above, holding is not a risk-free kind of investment. Anything called investment has some degree of risk and especially cryptocurrency investment is all about to risk. I don't think that there is anything that is risk-free in cryptocurrency industry
It is true that any investment has a risk. There is no investment with no risk, especially for crypto investment. People who think crypto investment is free of risk, they probably don't understand about the potential risks. They may never experience to get losses, so they don't know if it is risky.  ;D

You can just say that trading is risker than holding and I will consider if yo believe you. Why I say so is that it is not absolutely proven that Holding is less risky than trading.
It depends on the individual. Trading can be riskier or safer.
If we use a proper strategy and choose top coins, it can be quite safe to trade. Although we fail to take profits, we can hold it and wait for the altcoins season. But when we choose the wrong coins for investment, it can be very risky because they can be delisted on the exchanges. So, both have risks.

Why? Do you think there is only risk in trading? Do you think that holdings are without risk? What if it's wrong to hold a crypto asset other than Bitcoin that we think is the right choice, but in the end we realize that we were wrong and we didn't gain anything?

We know that trading is the main source of earnings in this field of cryptocurrency. And also, from trading comes the acquisition of assets that we will hold, depending on whether we do it short-term or long-term.
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2024, 10:57:45 AM »
We all know trading is a risky business where you can lose money just because of market volatility.

You will not loss single penny if you::
 go for spot trading
 trade in top coins
have extra fund for another trade if dump happened
Using a good trading strategy

None of us can tell when market volatility will start and you will lose your money, that's why it is better to avoid such trading. Although nowadays most of the people are involved in trading business and they do this trade constantly hoping for high profit but it is the highest risk and people lose a lot of money here so trading is not a risk free trade at all.

Only panic sellers, don't following trading basics rules losing while other all are making 10x more than holders.
Hodling is a risk free and profitable business where people get high returns.
First time I heard that any investment is risk free. What happened to those who holding Luna and Ftx, purchased btc and others tokens at peak price? how much they made?

When you hodl, you definitely leave an asset for the future from which you can earn a lot of money. Whereas trading is risky but hodling is never risky it always leads a user to higher profits. We know hodl is gold so when you start holding your plan will be higher where you will get huge amount of income. So you refrain from trading and hold for a long time which will give you huge returns, of course you use a secure wallet.

I concluded after reading full thread that you have zero knowledge of trading and  You have been intimidated by someone for trading in crypto and that's all
Bro how can you say that there is no loss in Spot trading? sorry, but I don't agree with you. I myself have experienced losses multiple times in spot trading using top coins. Top coins also have the risk of loses. nothing is exceptional in crypto trading.
it is true that trading is better than holding if we trade regularly and we can eventually cover our loses. but saying that there is no losing a single penny in spot trading is totally wrong..
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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2024, 02:42:50 PM »
Literally, you can earn more profit in trading than holding because it uses leverage. But trading is more risky, the higher the leverage the higher the risk. That's one of the disadvantages in trading, that's why most people loses a lot instead of making profit. Imagine, if you could only have an edge in trading you can earn a high percentage of your capital in just a couple of hours while holding needs to wait for weeks or months. Unfortunately, people that hold tokens are the ones who made profit in the end.
Perhaps you are talking about futures trading. Trading is generally done in two ways, one is future trading and the other is spot trading. As the probability of profit is high in future trading, the level of risk is high in this trading, but the probability of profit in spot trading is low, but the amount of risk here is very less. Future trading is such that if you want to earn $100, you have to risk $500, meaning you may lose $500 to earn $100. Since futures trading involves additional risk, most traders try to avoid this trading method. 

Also what you said is that the profit margin is very less if you hold. The price of Bitcoin touched $15,000 at one time. At that time, imagine how much money you would have made if you had bought a Bitcoin and held it until now. You have to hold for a long time understanding the opportunity, but there is a lot of profit potential there.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2024, 01:47:41 AM »

Bro how can you say that there is no loss in Spot trading? sorry, but I don't agree with you. I myself have experienced losses multiple times in spot trading using top coins. Top coins also have the risk of loses. nothing is exceptional in crypto trading.
it is true that trading is better than holding if we trade regularly and we can eventually cover our loses. but saying that there is no losing a single penny in spot trading is totally wrong..

Me too,  I also have loss several time in spot trading.
No guarantee we will no loss in trading, market is unpredictable.
As you said Top coins have risk in loses too..Trading always needs experience and skill.
In anyway .. in any fitures.
I think Trading is how to manage our assets in exchange, reduce loss and gain profits.
Sometimes we will loss , sometimes we gain profit.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2024, 08:36:51 AM »
This is true for Bitcoin and some reliable Altcoins, but for the rest of the coins, this is not always the case.

I mean that holding Bitcoin is risk-free and definitely profitable in the long run, but as for the rest of the Altcoins, there are great risks in holding in the long term because it is possible that these Altcoins will collapse or lose their value in the long run.

There may be some good altcoins in the long term like Ethereum, but personally I think the only safe investment is holding Bitcoin.

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Re: Trading Vs Hodling
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2024, 10:52:15 AM »
This is true for Bitcoin and some reliable Altcoins, but for the rest of the coins, this is not always the case.

I mean that holding Bitcoin is risk-free and definitely profitable in the long run, but as for the rest of the Altcoins, there are great risks in holding in the long term because it is possible that these Altcoins will collapse or lose their value in the long run.

There may be some good altcoins in the long term like Ethereum, but personally I think the only safe investment is holding Bitcoin.
Investing in Bitcoin involves risk, and the level of risk may vary depending on various factors. Some risks to consider include:

Volatility Bitcoin prices can experience significant fluctuations in short periods of time. This can create great opportunities, but also increases the risk of losing investment value.

Bitcoin's underlying blockchain technology has proven to be robust as technological developments or emerging issues could impact its long-term impact.

 

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