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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2024, 10:23:48 PM »
Now I'll tell you something: I have often witnessed diatribes on evaluation in other places too.
Let's say that if we make time go on forever then the ratings will be more or less truthful, I don't worry and you shouldn't worry about karma or likes or any rating system, write, be kind and tolerant and let's all get along In the end we are here to talk and exchange opinions, everyone has their own and no one should try to convince anyone else.
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2024, 10:23:48 PM »

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2024, 02:55:37 AM »
There's a need to have who gives the -ve and -ve karma known to public knowledge and an example for such reasons is the negative karma given to op. If it is hidden, one can easily abuse it by witch hunting a fellow member or use it for his own personal gains. I don't know if this has been thought of, but if one has multiple accounts, one can use the other account and be giving himself +ve karma to make it look like he's getting rewarded for his contribution on the forum.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2024, 06:53:06 AM »
After reading the topic and the responses complete, I have a question and a suggestion:
My question: What happens if someone pressed a negative Karma button by mistake? Can this process be removed if it occurred by mistake?

My suggestion: Why do we not make giving negative karma a little more difficult, for example when press the negative karma button, a dialog is asked to write a convincing reason to give a negative Karma with a warning of misuse of the system, if he is serious and write the reason and the press send or OK  then it will be given a negative Karma with sending a message to the member tells him the reason for obtaining a negative Karma.

We can get several benefits of that: some annoyers stop playing and pressing a negative Karma button without responsibility. Also, the intended member gets a message showing the reason for obtaining a negative Karma and also will help the Mods of their work when submitting a complaint regarding negative karma.

This is just a suggestion and it is possible to have defects and I do not know if its application is possible in terms of technical aspect. But at least it can reduce giving negative Karma without a convincing reason.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2024, 10:21:22 AM »
After reading the topic and the responses complete, I have a question and a suggestion:
My question: What happens if someone pressed a negative Karma button by mistake? Can this process be removed if it occurred by mistake?

My suggestion: Why do we not make giving negative karma a little more difficult, for example when press the negative karma button, a dialog is asked to write a convincing reason to give a negative Karma with a warning of misuse of the system, if he is serious and write the reason and the press send or OK  then it will be given a negative Karma with sending a message to the member tells him the reason for obtaining a negative Karma.

We can get several benefits of that: some annoyers stop playing and pressing a negative Karma button without responsibility. Also, the intended member gets a message showing the reason for obtaining a negative Karma and also will help the Mods of their work when submitting a complaint regarding negative karma.

This is just a suggestion and it is possible to have defects and I do not know if its application is possible in terms of technical aspect. But at least it can reduce giving negative Karma without a convincing reason.

this is a good idea, a good proposal
from a code point of view you just need to add a "confim" on the javascript side, so it's not even too complicated
furthermore, anyone who presses by mistake can still go back
good idea
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2024, 12:25:59 PM »
this is a good idea, a good proposal
from a code point of view you just need to add a "confim" on the javascript side, so it's not even too complicated
furthermore, anyone who presses by mistake can still go back
good idea
Thank you, I think it would be a good idea.

I was thinking about what would happen if someone accidentally pressed the negative karma button and this idea came to my mind. In addition this method will prevent negative karma from being accidentally pressed. It will also reduce cases of giving negative karma without an acceptable reason.

I do not expect that adding it programmatically will be that difficult, but first of all I hope that the administrators will like it.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2024, 12:40:48 PM »
confirming javascript takes just 2 minutes, it's a check you do client side precisely in cases where the user inadvertently presses a link, this system is widely used by those, like me, between frontends with javascript
of course is easy to put in site and dont need any security check
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2024, 05:29:31 PM »
There's a need to have who gives the -ve and -ve karma known to public knowledge and an example for such reasons is the negative karma given to op. If it is hidden, one can easily abuse it by witch hunting a fellow member or use it for his own personal gains. I don't know if this has been thought of, but if one has multiple accounts, one can use the other account and be giving himself +ve karma to make it look like he's getting rewarded for his contribution on the forum.

It is an abuse of karma system and the abuser will get different penalties starting with karma reset and losing an option of changing karma of others and ending with different negative badges.

Having undeclared multiple accounts is a separate violation and is punished with marking all found multiple accounts as duplicated, including the main one.

After reading the topic and the responses complete, I have a question and a suggestion:
My question: What happens if someone pressed a negative Karma button by mistake? Can this process be removed if it occurred by mistake?

If you found that you gave -karma by a mistake you can the same moment give +karma and the receiver will get +2 karma, one in compensation of -karma he got and one additional like if you gave him +karma from the beginning.
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2024, 05:29:31 PM »


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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2024, 03:53:55 AM »
I have seen where Negative karma is described as Negative karma is given to users who are misbehaving, breaking the rules, being aggressive or disruptive to the forum. This can be found in this topic https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0

I pop on a few times a day and make a post or 2. Where I post varies, I like the forum section and I like the gambling section mostly. I also have the notification bot enabled to let me know if someone has mentioned me in a reply so I can read their reply and respond if needed. Today the bot went off with this message You received -1 Negative Karma. Total received Karma 94.
Follow the rules, and keep posting good, helpful topic to avoid getting Negative Karma.

Negative karma is given in this forum if the post is not up to standards. But yahoo62278 is a reputable member, so I don't think it's acceptable for his post to be wrong. So it gave him negative karma so it would have been better if a person had seen it. Admin requested to update it of course. Karma negative or positive will give such an image to emerge and that will be most appropriate.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2024, 05:31:36 AM »
I have seen where Negative karma is described as Negative karma is given to users who are misbehaving, breaking the rules, being aggressive or disruptive to the forum. This can be found in this topic https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0

I pop on a few times a day and make a post or 2. Where I post varies, I like the forum section and I like the gambling section mostly. I also have the notification bot enabled to let me know if someone has mentioned me in a reply so I can read their reply and respond if needed. Today the bot went off with this message You received -1 Negative Karma. Total received Karma 94.
Follow the rules, and keep posting good, helpful topic to avoid getting Negative Karma.

Negative karma is given in this forum if the post is not up to standards. But yahoo62278 is a reputable member, so I don't think it's acceptable for his post to be wrong. So it gave him negative karma so it would have been better if a person had seen it. Admin requested to update it of course. Karma negative or positive will give such an image to emerge and that will be most appropriate.
Even reputable members can make a bad post now and then. We aren't perfect, we have just built a reputation and gained the respect of most in the communities we are a part of.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2024, 02:11:52 PM »
Even reputable members can make a bad post now and then. We aren't perfect, we have just built a reputation and gained the respect of most in the communities we are a part of.

That's the point, no one is perfect
as happens outside, for example, with restaurant reviews on Tripadvisor
no one is perfect, using the punitive method to fix bad behavior doesn't work, just talk
if he is a repeat offender it's another matter, I'm the type of person who talks about face 2 face person with whom I feel annoyed or uncomfortable in order to understand how to resolve the matter together

What's the point of giving away negative karma? for nothing only to foment hatred
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2024, 07:54:00 PM »
After reading the topic and the responses complete, I have a question and a suggestion:
My question: What happens if someone pressed a negative Karma button by mistake? Can this process be removed if it occurred by mistake?

My suggestion: Why do we not make giving negative karma a little more difficult, for example when press the negative karma button, a dialog is asked to write a convincing reason to give a negative Karma with a warning of misuse of the system, if he is serious and write the reason and the press send or OK  then it will be given a negative Karma with sending a message to the member tells him the reason for obtaining a negative Karma.

We can get several benefits of that: some annoyers stop playing and pressing a negative Karma button without responsibility. Also, the intended member gets a message showing the reason for obtaining a negative Karma and also will help the Mods of their work when submitting a complaint regarding negative karma.

This is just a suggestion and it is possible to have defects and I do not know if its application is possible in terms of technical aspect. But at least it can reduce giving negative Karma without a convincing reason.

In the way you propose, negative karma would be associated with a reason and could be kept in a log. That would make it easier to review and in case the reason for issuing that negative karma didn't make sense or was invalid, the karma could be restored as positive karma. That would mean more work for moderators and the administrator, but I think it's a good proposal after all, it could be a good measure to prevent some coordinated group from abusing the karma of other users. I guess we first have to wait for the admin to make a karma counter possible on posts.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2024, 11:24:32 AM »
In the way you propose, negative karma would be associated with a reason and could be kept in a log. That would make it easier to review and in case the reason for issuing that negative karma didn't make sense or was invalid, the karma could be restored as positive karma. That would mean more work for moderators and the administrator, but I think it's a good proposal after all, it could be a good measure to prevent some coordinated group from abusing the karma of other users. I guess we first have to wait for the admin to make a karma counter possible on posts.

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Thank you. I'm glad you liked the suggestion. I hope the moderator will find it approving as well.

It is true that this means more work for moderators and administrators, but at the same time it will be a good solution to prevent accidentally pressing the -Karma button. It will also be useful in reducing the abuse of Karma, in addition to it will be very useful for moderators when investigating requests for abuse and disputes between members.

I also expect that it will not be necessary for moderators to look at every instance of giving negative karma except when there is abuse of the system or a complaint made by a member regarding negative karma.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2024, 12:00:22 AM »

If you found that you gave -karma by a mistake you can the same moment give +karma and the receiver will get +2 karma, one in compensation of -karma he got and one additional like if you gave him +karma from the beginning.

Sorry for the notification you might have received concerning the negative karma. I just had to try and see if it’s true - I thought pressing the +ve karma after accidentally hitting -ve karma only counter the -ve, I had no idea that it sends and extra +ve karma to that user.

I checked and it worked.
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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2024, 12:43:49 AM »
Agree with bitmover,
however, there is a priority in things that are being done,
karma on posts, is among the things that i will try to make happen.
yeah that would be more better so that you can be able to recognise the particular post that received that received karma's. And if it's negative karma you can check the post well and look for the offends you may have caused that lead to you having negative karma the first place.

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Re: You have received -1 Negative Karma
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2024, 02:33:31 AM »
Even reputable members can make a bad post now and then. We aren't perfect, we have just built a reputation and gained the respect of most in the communities we are a part of.

It doesn't have to be a bad post, I think it's more of a problem if someone is very direct and expresses his opinion without flattering others.
People hardly accept criticism, even if it is well-intentioned.

p.s. It seems to me that you have received more -karma in the meantime.  :-\
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