You have received -1 Negative Karma

[babo]

Even reputable members can make a bad post now and then. We aren't perfect, we have just built a reputation and gained the respect of most in the communities we are a part of.

It doesn't have to be a bad post, I think it's more of a problem if someone is very direct and expresses his opinion without flattering others.
People hardly accept criticism, even if it is well-intentioned.

p.s. It seems to me that you have received more -karma in the meantime. 

this is the problem with voting, if the score then translates into a real advantage, well you understand how difficult it becomes to stop abuse or karma just because you express your opinion in a kind way
However, I still don't worry, I've been using the forums since 1998 and I'm now calm about it

[bitmover]

Even reputable members can make a bad post now and then. We aren't perfect, we have just built a reputation and gained the respect of most in the communities we are a part of.

It doesn't have to be a bad post, I think it's more of a problem if someone is very direct and expresses his opinion without flattering others.
People hardly accept criticism, even if it is well-intentioned.

p.s. It seems to me that you have received more -karma in the meantime. 

I also see no problem in receiving bad karma. Overall,  if you make good contributions,  your positive karma will be much higher.

People have to always agree with me. As i write a lot, some people will eventually give me negative karma as they can disagree. I don't think this bad for the account overall.

You will even get a negative karma badged lol

[Freemind]

Thank you. I'm glad you liked the suggestion. I hope the moderator will find it approving as well.

It is true that this means more work for moderators and administrators, but at the same time it will be a good solution to prevent accidentally pressing the -Karma button. It will also be useful in reducing the abuse of Karma, in addition to it will be very useful for moderators when investigating requests for abuse and disputes between members.

I also expect that it will not be necessary for moderators to look at every instance of giving negative karma except when there is abuse of the system or a complaint made by a member regarding negative karma.

In theory, and technically speaking, the administrator should only enable one JavaScript function to be able to do this without problems. The problem could be the testing and the time required, but I suppose it is worth the time invested to control the abuses committed with karma and possible user errors. I guess we'll be able to add it to the to-do list soon if the admin agrees, but it would take a while to see this feature enabled due to the admin's workload.

Please, when you have time, make this proposal in Suggestion Box, If the initiative receives more support, I don't think the administrator will refuse to implement it.

[yahoo62278]

I think you guys might be misunderstanding the issue here. I am solidified on both forums, I do not worry about positive or negative karma overall as I usually post pretty relevant info and stay on topic without being too aggressive with my opinions. This is more for the users who are new to the forums, trying to be a voice so to speak for them. New guys are going to be disheartened when they see they got a new karma and have no clue why.

It's like leaving a neg on a user on bitcointalk without giving a reason just a . in the comments and no reference. People should know what they are doing right or wrong in some sense. You don't have to agree with my opinion, you're all free to think how you want.

[babo]

I think you guys might be misunderstanding the issue here. I am solidified on both forums, I do not worry about positive or negative karma overall as I usually post pretty relevant info and stay on topic without being too aggressive with my opinions. This is more for the users who are new to the forums, trying to be a voice so to speak for them. New guys are going to be disheartened when they see they got a new karma and have no clue why.

It's like leaving a neg on a user on bitcointalk without giving a reason just a . in the comments and no reference. People should know what they are doing right or wrong in some sense. You don't have to agree with my opinion, you're all free to think how you want.

I am convinced that negative reinforcement is not of much use, ok it can be a sort of weapon to use to worry others so as not to cause offense
like the peace due to the fact that everyone has the atomic bomb and no one uses it, it is used as a deterrent

but is this a good thing? I avoid all these political discussions because I don't have the time and honestly don't want to

I already have so many things to do in real life to look for problems, problems or drama in virtual life

this is my opinion, let's work together and love each other because we already have enough problems

+1 karma for u

[Freemind]

because they were amateurs

3-4 buddies, coordinating outside Altcoins,
each one hits 2-3x/week
Downvoting dilution is key

Hit posts from different places and different time (use target's posting history for that)
Even if mods have energy to look into it (doubt that), trolls can go "It was honest downvoting. I simply didn't like those posts"
They call it plausible deniability

With a profile like mine, 3-4 weeks and you have bombed target's karma score down to 0
Give your buddies high 5, take care of your hard-on and over to the next target.

Strategy can be applied to different targets at the same time

Remember that everything is in the logs, and also remember that although nothing is done now, it does not mean that it cannot be done later with the consequences that this may have for users who carry out this type of practices. It's not about energy, it's about time and knowing how to manage it. I think that putting order in the forum by eliminating spam and plagiarism is a priority in the face of karma attacks that can be carried out, something that has an easy solution by restoring the negative karma extracted from users for no reason and penalizing the authors.

[Peter90]

because they were amateurs

3-4 buddies, coordinating outside Altcoins,
each one hits 2-3x/week
Downvoting dilution is key

Hit posts from different places and different time (use target's posting history for that)
Even if mods have energy to look into it (doubt that), trolls can go "It was honest downvoting. I simply didn't like those posts"
They call it plausible deniability

With a profile like mine, 3-4 weeks and you have bombed target's karma score down to 0
Give your buddies high 5, take care of your hard-on and over to the next target.

Strategy can be applied to different targets at the same time

Remember that everything is in the logs, and also remember that although nothing is done now, it does not mean that it cannot be done later with the consequences that this may have for users who carry out this type of practices. It's not about energy, it's about time and knowing how to manage it. I think that putting order in the forum by eliminating spam and plagiarism is a priority in the face of karma attacks that can be carried out, something that has an easy solution by restoring the negative karma extracted from users for no reason and penalizing the authors.

Thanks Freemind
So, the point of the negative karma widget is eliminating spam and plagiarism, you say.
I think spam and plagiarism can be eliminated using the "report to moderator" widget.
No need of negative karma.

Truth is, penalizing widgets are usually integrated in order to eliminate trolls.
Through these widgets the community itself - without the mods - keeps the forum clean.
Self-moderation so to speak.
Auto-regulation
Less work for the mods.
I can understand why penalizing widgets are welcomed by admins and mods.


Downsides are
a) people get penalized simply because they represent alternative views,
b) people penalize other people based on antipathy,
c) much worse: people suspect having been penalized based on antipathy (= poison spreading within the community)
d) people - particularly those with low score - don't take risks i.e. write only what they consider "safe" i.e. accepted by the community - or by the most aggressive users (low quality contributions),
e) people refrain from posting out of fear of getting penalized (low active participation).

This is what I have observed in other forums that deploy penalizing widgets.
Anyway, your forum, your rules.
Good luck!

[Jokers]

Downsides are

There is nothing perfect in this sublunary world! Each decision has its advantages and disadvantages.

Auto-regulation for community, right. And it is not just about "less work for the mods" (what is great, hate working!), it is a way for community to become a community, get some traditions. Yes, it has its own underwater stones, but everything has, just different...

[taufik123]

I think you guys might be misunderstanding the issue here. I am solidified on both forums, I do not worry about positive or negative karma overall as I usually post pretty relevant info and stay on topic without being too aggressive with my opinions. This is more for the users who are new to the forums, trying to be a voice so to speak for them. New guys are going to be disheartened when they see they got a new karma and have no clue why.
-snip-

Being Relevant in any discussion is best, despite having a little knowledge but what is discussed remains in the right line.

You are a Senior in both of these Forums and you set a good example for all beginners including me.
You are not selfish and not too aggressive in putting forward your own opinions, you will only tell that what is right and what should be done.

The negative karma on these forums may be the same as the red flags on Bitcointalk.
But in this forum it has not had much purpose and is still not influential enough.
Beginners who get negative Karma will certainly feel that they made a big mistake and anxiety will continue to come.

[Gladitorcomeback]

I think you guys might be misunderstanding the issue here. I am solidified on both forums, I do not worry about positive or negative karma overall as I usually post pretty relevant info and stay on topic without being too aggressive with my opinions. This is more for the users who are new to the forums, trying to be a voice so to speak for them. New guys are going to be disheartened when they see they got a new karma and have no clue why.

It's like leaving a neg on a user on bitcointalk without giving a reason just a . in the comments and no reference. People should know what they are doing right or wrong in some sense. You don't have to agree with my opinion, you're all free to think how you want.

I agree with your opinion about this. If it's unnecessary, the usernames shouldn't be shown and only the amount of karma, either positive or negative, should be visible, even if it's not visible to the public, it should at least be visible for the user receiving them for them to get an idea about why they are getting them and on which posts, so that they can check their posts and try not to make the mistakes they might have done in the posts receiving negative karma.

As suggested, it's better if the amount of positive and negative karma is shown for each post for public reference for them to know which is a good and which is a bad post just like how merits in Bitcointalk show constructive posts and posters.

[yahoo62278]

I think you guys might be misunderstanding the issue here. I am solidified on both forums, I do not worry about positive or negative karma overall as I usually post pretty relevant info and stay on topic without being too aggressive with my opinions. This is more for the users who are new to the forums, trying to be a voice so to speak for them. New guys are going to be disheartened when they see they got a new karma and have no clue why.
-snip-

Being Relevant in any discussion is best, despite having a little knowledge but what is discussed remains in the right line.

You are a Senior in both of these Forums and you set a good example for all beginners including me.
You are not selfish and not too aggressive in putting forward your own opinions, you will only tell that what is right and what should be done.

The negative karma on these forums may be the same as the red flags on Bitcointalk.
But in this forum it has not had much purpose and is still not influential enough.
Beginners who get negative Karma will certainly feel that they made a big mistake and anxiety will continue to come.

No reason to get anxiety really though. If you keep getting negative karma, then you are obviously doing something people don't like or someone has it out for you, but the admins will step in if the latter is the case.

Let's say you are doing/posting things people don't agree with, take the time to learn and adapt. I think we need to see a number though so we can see what it is that people aren't liking. We cannot change if we don't know what to change.

[Freemind]

Thanks Freemind
So, the point of the negative karma widget is eliminating spam and plagiarism, you say.

You're welcome Peter90.

No. At no point have I said that karma eliminates spam or plagiarism, I think you should read my post again. What I said is that putting order in the forum is a priority. But positive or negative karma doesn't do that, the moderators do that. Negative karma shows users' disagreement with spam, plagiarism, or inappropriate behavior. Deleting, moving posts, penalizing and other things that users can't do is what we moderators do.

[Peter90]

There is nothing perfect in this sublunary world! Each decision has its advantages and disadvantages.

Jokers, you just forced me to go and look after that phrase... buried in my memories of another life... the life of an university student...

"In Aristotelian physics and Greek astronomy, the sublunary sphere is the region of the geocentric cosmos below the Moon, consisting of the four classical elements: earth, water, air, and fire.

The sublunary sphere was the realm of changing nature. Beginning with the Moon, up to the limits of the universe, everything (to classical astronomy) was permanent, regular and unchanging—the region of aether where the planets and stars are located. Only in the sublunary sphere did the powers of physics hold sway."

Who said there is no erudition to be found in crypto forums 

[Agbe]

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I don't know you before and this is the first time I am seeing you in the forum and you just deviate from the subject to another topic which is very far from the matter at hand. Yes a new phrase was used and you can just make little comment on that and come back to the subject. The subject matter is Karma analysis. And all the contributions should be on track. As you came back to the forum, how many karmas have you received and as you received the +karmas what did you notice? The forum has improved and developed in different ways and still developing. And what we the participants or the users of the forum needed is that let the thread or the post the -Karma or +karma is given should be included in the notification and that can only be done by the admin by showing the comments that received the karma. So you have to follow the trend.

[Rex067]

I have seen where Negative karma is described as Negative karma is given to users who are misbehaving, breaking the rules, being aggressive or disruptive to the forum. This can be found in this topic https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0

I pop on a few times a day and make a post or 2. Where I post varies, I like the forum section and I like the gambling section mostly. I also have the notification bot enabled to let me know if someone has mentioned me in a reply so I can read their reply and respond if needed. Today the bot went off with this message You received -1 Negative Karma. Total received Karma 94.
Follow the rules, and keep posting good, helpful topic to avoid getting Negative Karma.

Normally I could care less who agrees or disagrees with my opinion as we are all different and everyone is never going to agree with a person all the time, but I am pretty sure I have tried not to be too aggressive or misbehave on here thus far.

Reading the noti that I got it says follow the rules (check), keep posting good, helpful topic (check) to avoid getting neg karma. OK now the question is, how do I know where I am misbehaving, breaking rules, or being aggressive if I have no clue who gave me the neg karma or what post the neg karma was given to? How can I be better about whatever issue someone had, if I don't know the issue that person had.

I am of the opinion that who and when you were given + or - karma should be public knowledge. I see no reason to keep it hidden honestly. If it's hidden what's the point in having it?

Wouldn't mind some constructive opinions on the topic and maybe I'll gain a different perspective on the topic.

I gree with you most people don't deserve they negative Krama given to them. Some of the people giving the negative Krama only feel on their own side of views that this post of the individual is not qualify and most of this person are not professional enough just have little IQ on cryptocurrency