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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #165 on: May 10, 2024, 07:22:36 PM »
For the first time in the history, 5 German teams will participate in the Champions' League next season.
Thanks to Borussia's success in getting to the final, Bundesliga got awarded an additional spot, so now the top 5 (not 4) teams will be allowed into UCL.
More details here:
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/will-the-bundesliga-win-a-fifth-uefa-champions-league-spot-coefficients-26569

According to the article, if BvB wins the UCL cup AND if they finish 5th, also the 6th team in the table will play in the UCL qualifiers. But if they were to win the UCL and finish in the top 4th the extra spot would be transferred to another country - which doesn't make much sense to me, but since this is official Bundesliga site, I assume they know what they're talking about.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #165 on: May 10, 2024, 07:22:36 PM »

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #166 on: May 10, 2024, 11:50:53 PM »
For the first time in the history, 5 German teams will participate in the Champions' League next season.
Thanks to Borussia's success in getting to the final, Bundesliga got awarded an additional spot, so now the top 5 (not 4) teams will be allowed into UCL.
The German teams are performing very well, with Dortmund being the most shocking and unexpected of them all in the finals of the Champions League when they are not even in the top four of their league. Dortmund can still finish in fourth place on their table; Leipzig are just three points ahead, and if they lose their remaining games, they could drop to fifth place on the table.
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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #167 on: May 11, 2024, 08:34:37 AM »
Some points forget you list
  • Bayern Leverkusen indeed unbeaten has 90% opportunity will qualify to final of Europe League
  • Dortmund get unique performance this season, reach final of Champion League but still not get top fourth or champion league spot next season
  • Interested possibility with Bundesliga final Champion League match if Bayern will qualify to final
Leverkusen have confirmed themselves to be in the Europa League final, after they succeeded in drawing a draw in the second leg and making the aggregate 4-2 for their victory.

It's true, Borussia Dortmund were quite disappointing when they were in the Bundesliga, but they were surprisingly able to advance to the Champions League final this season.

Bayern Munich failed miserably this season, they failed in all competitions, including losing their Bundesliga title to Leverkusen.
Borussia Dortmund has never actually won every Bundesliga match. They are known for playing only to create professional players so that they can sell their great players to several clubs that need their players. Borussia Dortmund is already famous for business like this.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #168 on: May 11, 2024, 08:12:07 PM »
Anyone else can't stop thinking that Borussia Dortmund just gave away the match to Mainz? They're currently losing 0-3 (79th minute), and it's hard to believe that Mainz, a team from the bottom of the table, became so good all of a sudden to beat the Champion's League finalist just like that.

The truth is, Mainz is desperate for a win while Borussia can be satisfied with the 5th place, as it will allow them to play in the Champion's League next season even if they lose in the final.
In fact, Borussia finishing 5th instead of 4th, could mean that we could see 6 German teams in the Champions League next season, as per this article (which I linked earlier):
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/will-the-bundesliga-win-a-fifth-uefa-champions-league-spot-coefficients-26569

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(...) At this point, that would happen if they finished fifth. Dortmund would qualify as holders, the top four as normal, and then the next best-placed German team as well - currently Frankfurt.

However, if Borussia win the Champions League and finish in the top four, their berth as holders is passed to another country.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #169 on: May 11, 2024, 08:37:14 PM »
Anyone else can't stop thinking that Borussia Dortmund just gave away the match to Mainz? They're currently losing 0-3 (79th minute), and it's hard to believe that Mainz, a team from the bottom of the table, became so good all of a sudden to beat the Champion's League finalist just like that.
Because of Dortmund's very good Champions League running, many gamblers believed that their qualification into the finals would give them a new boost of confidence to win the remaining games in the Bundesliga, but it is quite obvious now that they have accepted their position in the Bundesliga this season and are now fully focused on winning the Champions League because there were many gamblers who bet on them today to win, but they ended up with these terrible results, losing by three goals and conceding from the 12th minute.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #170 on: May 11, 2024, 08:46:50 PM »
Leverkusen have confirmed themselves to be in the Europa League final, after they succeeded in drawing a draw in the second leg and making the aggregate 4-2 for their victory.

It's true, Borussia Dortmund were quite disappointing when they were in the Bundesliga, but they were surprisingly able to advance to the Champions League final this season.

Bayern Munich failed miserably this season, they failed in all competitions, including losing their Bundesliga title to Leverkusen.
Borussia Dortmund has never actually won every Bundesliga match. They are known for playing only to create professional players so that they can sell their great players to several clubs that need their players. Borussia Dortmund is already famous for business like this.
This business is already attached to Borussia Dortmund, when they are successful in creating young players with great potential, then our question is which team will be lucky to get that player, and it has been proven that players from Borussia Dortmund have been successful with other teams.

However, it is very unfortunate when they prioritize their business, so they forget that they also need a degree. I understand business cannot be separated from football, but I mean it would be better if they balanced it with performance.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #171 on: May 12, 2024, 10:39:10 PM »
Borussia Dortmund has never actually won every Bundesliga match. They are known for playing only to create professional players so that they can sell their great players to several clubs that need their players. Borussia Dortmund is already famous for business like this.
I don't know whether to be happy or sad at the same time, but this is true, it's famous like that. But yes, at least they are still trying their best, especially in the Bundesliga, the top domestic league, where in fact, for starters, they can go even further next season. Even though they played badly, they lost to a lower club with a fairly big score, this is really a massacre. which is sad for Dortmund. Because in fact, many people have high hopes for this club after they qualify for the UCL final, which is truly prestigious.

This is exactly different with Leverkusen, in which, although they have been clearly as the winner of Bundesliga, but so far, they are still struggling their best to perform the best, too. As like the previous match, Leverkusen could beat Bochum incredibly by scoring 5 goals and without any conceded goal. Maybe because Bochum was also very unlucky, because they got a red card at a fairly early time. so this gives Leverkusen a higher chance of winning.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #172 on: May 16, 2024, 01:25:18 PM »
For me, Leverkusen's last match in the Bundesliga is still important, because they will have their last match and prove whether they can go without defeat for a whole season or not.

Looking at the opportunities that exist, they are very likely to be able to record that record. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, this is the first time a Bundesliga team can end a season without defeat (correct me if I'm wrong. They will have the opportunity to make that history.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #173 on: May 16, 2024, 11:17:03 PM »
For me, Leverkusen's last match in the Bundesliga is still important, because they will have their last match and prove whether they can go without defeat for a whole season or not.
Yep. It is also an important match. Leverkusen needs to win it if they want to keep the unbeaten record until the end of the season. Now, it is only 1 match left, Leverkusen is almost getting the record of unbeaten in the whole season in Bundesliga. After the match, there are 2 next matches to win. If they can win those 2 matches, Leverkusen will have a record of unbeaten in all competitions in the whole season. It will be a crazy record!!

Looking at the opportunities that exist, they are very likely to be able to record that record. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, this is the first time a Bundesliga team can end a season without defeat (correct me if I'm wrong. They will have the opportunity to make that history.
For the Bundesliga match, no doubt Leverkusen will win it. Also, Leverkusen will win the final match of DFB Pokal, they only play against a weak team. Leverkusen only has a tough opponent in Europa league final. However, I am sure Leverkusen can deal with Atalanta, they must know how to win it. Xabi is a smart coach, I never doubt him to lead Leverkusen winning UEL trophy this season.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #174 on: Today at 12:34:54 AM »
One of the most interesting games in the last round could be Union Berlin playing at home against Freiburg.
Union will be desperately trying to escape the relegation zone. Currently, they are 2 points behind the 15th Mains, who will be playing an away game against Wolfsburg, and 3 points behind Bochum (who have a worse goal difference than Union).
If Mainz or Bochum lose and if Union wins, the Berlin team will escape relegation.
Freiburg is currently 8th, but if they defeat Union and if Bayern wins against Hoffenheim, they will jump into the 7th place which will grant them a spot in the Conference League qualifiers next season. So both teams have a lot at stake here.

Strangely enough, both, Union Berlin and Mainz are favourites in their respective matches. Oddsmakers seem to believe that the fear of relegation can do wonders. We'll find out soon.

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Re: Germany - Bundesliga League Prediction Thread - 2023/24 ⚽
« Reply #175 on: Today at 05:45:06 AM »
For the first time in the history, 5 German teams will participate in the Champions' League next season.
Thanks to Borussia's success in getting to the final, Bundesliga got awarded an additional spot, so now the top 5 (not 4) teams will be allowed into UCL.
More details here:
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/will-the-bundesliga-win-a-fifth-uefa-champions-league-spot-coefficients-26569

According to the article, if BvB wins the UCL cup AND if they finish 5th, also the 6th team in the table will play in the UCL qualifiers. But if they were to win the UCL and finish in the top 4th the extra spot would be transferred to another country - which doesn't make much sense to me, but since this is official Bundesliga site, I assume they know what they're talking about.
Its happening because Bundesliga teams participants in European competition exactly after Bayern Leverkusen qualifying to final of Europe League and Bayern then Dortmund success qualifying semifinal round. I don't think its not first time because Frankfurt when winning Europe League success playing in Champion League and Bundesliga has five team participants in champion league.
I am expected with Bayern Leverkusen performance in Champion League next season after success reaching 50 unbeaten matches all competition, how possibility when playing on highest level will easily keep defend the unbeaten trend or not?

 

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